linux doesnt need ctrl alt del?? ha!
Ryan Mesler
yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
Sat Mar 30 02:57:00 2002
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everyone seems to assume that since i said linux does need =
"ctrl-alt-del" that i seem to think linux is a piece of unstable shite =
that shouldnt be tinkered with. thats the problem with society today.
sigh... i knew i shouldna let it go for this long. oh well... people! =
just because i said linux crashes from time to time doesn't mean i'm an =
incompetent fool who needs to take a "linux course".
for starters, i have never had a kernel panic. almost, but not quite. =
most of my crashings are a result of stuff i attempt to do in X.
for those out there who say linux doesn't ever crash... well... leaving =
a linux box to fend for itself while it serves webpages or internet =
connections to others doesn't count. i can have my windows box do the =
very same thing and it won't crash either (yes, i have. really). try =
using the gimp to create webpages while compiling a new kernel with =
mpg123 blasting mog radio in the background. at the same time, =
enlightenment is powering my 8 desktops each with it's own high quality =
1mb bg image and each running an instance of either xchat, aim, licq, =
xbill (i like xbill) opera, gkrellm, epplets, etc.
yes i know. windows and macOS are 100% NOT able to accomplish such a =
feat. Linux is. s'why i love linux. s'why i embraced the penguin oh so =
many years ago. sure, i did it for the eye candy (partly). say whatcha =
want. linux is the greatest.
and btw... don't ever ever tell me to take a linux course.
Ryan Mesler
Technical Support
Internet America
If at first you don't succeed, call it version 1.0
ICQ: 45088864
AIM: Kraylus
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Romeyn Prescott=20
To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com=20
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 11:19 PM
Subject: Re: linux doesnt need ctrl alt del?? ha!
Somewhen around 7:27 PM -0600 3/29/02, a person believing themself to=20
be Ryan Mesler scribbled:
>saying that linux doesnt need ctrl-alt-del is a crock. linux needs it =
just
>as much as any other OS. the great stories if this wonderfully stable =
OS i'd
>heard many moons ago were nothing more than a fallacy.
>
Well, lessee here:
My PowerBook G4 (Mac OS X):
bash-2.05$ uptime
12:05AM up 8 days, 12:53, 1 user, load averages: 0.93, 0.81, 0.63
(Unprecedented with OS 9)
My Linux desktop at work (Gateway E-3200, RH7.2):
[prescor@digirom prescor]$ uptime
12:14am up 46 days, 1:26, 5 users, load average: 1.38, 1.23, =
1.19
(Add 30 or so onto that. I only had to shut it down to move to a new =
office!)
My home Firewall/router/fileserver (netatalk/samba) (Pentium 120, =
RH7.2):
[prescor@Foundling prescor]$ uptime
1:01am up 51 days, 16:22, 1 user, load average: 0.06, 0.03, 0.01
My campus mail server (Gateway server, RH7.X):
bash-2.04$ uptime
12:07am up 112 days, 5:22, 2 users, load average: 0.02, 0.08, =
0.08
Our main student fileserver (Dell server, RH7.X):
bash-2.05$ uptime
12:08am up 128 days, 12:55, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, =
0.03
Our DNS server:
bash-2.05$ uptime
11:54pm up 216 days, 7:05, 1 user, load average: 1.39, 1.21, =
0.91
And last, and CERTAINLY not LEAST, our print job accounting server:
bash-2.05$ uptime
12:11am up 339 days, 18:27, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, =
0.00
Not stable? HAH! I can count the number of kernel panics I've=20
experienced on one hand, and most of THOSE were due to HARDWARE=20
failure (bad RAM, etc.) and NOT software.
But of course, Your Mileage May Vary. And it seems like it does!
Cheers,
...ROMeyn
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<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier size=3D2>everyone seems to assume that since i =
said linux=20
does need "ctrl-alt-del" that i seem to think linux is a piece of =
unstable shite=20
that shouldnt be tinkered with. thats the problem with society=20
today.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier size=3D2>sigh... i knew i shouldna let it go =
for this=20
long. oh well... people! just because i said linux crashes from time to =
time=20
doesn't mean i'm an incompetent fool who needs to take a "linux=20
course".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier size=3D2>for starters, i have never had a =
kernel panic.=20
almost, but not quite. most of my crashings are a result of stuff i =
attempt to=20
do in X.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier size=3D2>for those out there who say linux =
doesn't ever=20
crash... well... leaving a linux box to fend for itself while it serves =
webpages=20
or internet connections to others doesn't count. i can have my windows =
box do=20
the very same thing and it won't crash either (yes, i have. really). try =
using=20
the gimp to create webpages while compiling a new kernel with mpg123 =
blasting=20
mog radio in the background. at the same time, enlightenment is powering =
my 8=20
desktops each with it's own high quality 1mb bg image and each running =
an=20
instance of either xchat, aim, licq, xbill (i like xbill) opera, =
gkrellm,=20
epplets, etc.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier size=3D2>yes i know. windows and macOS are =
100% NOT able=20
to accomplish such a feat. Linux is. s'why i love linux. s'why i =
embraced=20
the penguin oh so many years ago. sure, i did it for the eye candy =
(partly). say=20
whatcha want. linux is the greatest.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier size=3D2>and btw... don't ever ever tell me to =
take a=20
linux course.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>Ryan Mesler<BR>Technical Support<BR>Internet America</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>If at first you don't succeed, call it version 1.0</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>ICQ: 45088864<BR>AIM: Kraylus</DIV>
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<A title=3Dprescor@digirom.potsdam.edu=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 29, 2002 =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: linux doesnt need =
ctrl alt=20
del?? ha!</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Somewhen around 7:27 PM -0600 3/29/02, a person =
believing=20
themself to <BR>be Ryan Mesler scribbled:<BR>>saying that linux =
doesnt need=20
ctrl-alt-del is a crock. linux needs it just<BR>>as much as any =
other OS.=20
the great stories if this wonderfully stable OS i'd<BR>>heard many =
moons=20
ago were nothing more than a fallacy.<BR>><BR><BR>Well, lessee=20
here:<BR><BR>My PowerBook G4 (Mac OS X):<BR>bash-2.05$ =
uptime<BR>12:05AM =20
up 8 days, 12:53, 1 user, load averages: 0.93, 0.81, =
0.63<BR>(Unprecedented=20
with OS 9)<BR><BR>My Linux desktop at work (Gateway E-3200,=20
RH7.2):<BR>[prescor@digirom prescor]$ uptime<BR> 12:14am =
up 46=20
days, 1:26, 5 users, load average: 1.38, 1.23, =
1.19<BR>(Add=20
30 or so onto that. I only had to shut it down to move to a new=20
office!)<BR><BR>My home Firewall/router/fileserver (netatalk/samba) =
(Pentium=20
120, RH7.2):<BR>[prescor@Foundling prescor]$ uptime<BR> =20
1:01am up 51 days, 16:22, 1 user, load average: =
0.06, 0.03,=20
0.01<BR><BR>My campus mail server (Gateway server, =
RH7.X):<BR>bash-2.04$=20
uptime<BR> 12:07am up 112 days, 5:22, 2 =
users, =20
load average: 0.02, 0.08, 0.08<BR><BR>Our main student fileserver =
(Dell=20
server, RH7.X):<BR>bash-2.05$ uptime<BR> 12:08am up 128 =
days,=20
12:55, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.03<BR><BR>Our =
DNS=20
server:<BR>bash-2.05$ uptime<BR> 11:54pm up 216 =
days, =20
7:05, 1 user, load average: 1.39, 1.21, 0.91<BR><BR>And =
last, and=20
CERTAINLY not LEAST, our print job accounting server:<BR>bash-2.05$=20
uptime<BR> 12:11am up 339 days, 18:27, 1 user, =
load=20
average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00<BR><BR><BR>Not stable? HAH! I =
can count=20
the number of kernel panics I've <BR>experienced on one hand, and most =
of=20
THOSE were due to HARDWARE <BR>failure (bad RAM, etc.) and NOT=20
software.<BR><BR>But of course, Your Mileage May Vary. And it =
seems like=20
it does!<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR>...ROMeyn<BR>-- <BR><BR><BR>signat-url: <A=20
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