Bad language
Greg Hamilton
yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
Mon Dec 8 18:30:06 2003
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After careful consideration of both sides of the 'Bad language' debate=20=
I fell it's high time for me to weigh in with my opinion:
Fuck nVidia.
Thank you.
Greg
On 09/12/2003, at 7:43 AM, Moyer, Steven wrote:
> It is entirely possible that the user that you are referring to is=20
> me.=A0 I am in State College, PA and I work for a company that uses=20
> Scan-mail (which I have no control over).=A0 I certainly can't say =
that=20
> I'm the only one since the Penn State University is here (heavy with=20=
> Mac hardware in some departments) and the largest local school=20
> district is also Mac-based.
>
> Having your e-mail blocked doesn't actually bother me at all, as I=20
> don't necessarily want the e-mail that typically contains language=20
> such as this.=A0 In your case, there was a technical basis for the=20
> e-mail, but often, this is spam advertising pr0n, etc.=A0 As this is a=20=
> technical mailing list, I am however surprised that your expressions=20=
> can't be more accurately conveyed using other words.=A0 Assuming =
English=20
> is your second language, I'm also impressed at your ability to=20
> properly conjugate the odd verbs we use.=A0 It's a shame that we're =
also=20
> exporting our vulgarities.
>
> In any case, I will take a two-pronged approach.=A0 First, I'm copying=20=
> this e-mail to our IT department, as they maintain the configuration=20=
> of the ScanMail application (the IEEE mailing list is also=20
> complaining).=A0 Second, I'm going to unsubscribe from this list as =
the=20
> quality of the YellowDog distribution seems to get slower and buggier=20=
> with each release.=A0 Don't get me wrong, I have been a happy user for=20=
> several versions, but with Gentoo, if I don't like something, it's my=20=
> own fault.
>
> Steve Moyer
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Atro Tossavainen [mailto:atro.tossavainen+ydl@helsinki.fi]
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 6:48 AM
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> Subject: Bad language
>
>
>
> I am sorry for the following off-topic message.=A0 It is not related =
to
> Macintosh, or to Yellow Dog Linux, but is tangentially related to how
> one behaves on mailing lists, so here goes.
>
> I wrote in my last message:
>
> > Ef you see kay nVidia, I say.
>
> The unprotected version of the sentence above provoked the wrath of
> the ScanMail system of a subscriber in State College, Pennsylvania.
> The system sent me an automatic notice to say that the message had
> been quarantined.
>
> While I am perfectly aware of the vulgar and rude nature of the word
> I used and others of its kind, I would nonetheless make the bold
> suggestion that people who subscribe to any mailing lists should do so
> from accounts not protected by automatic childminders, content-related
> spam filters, etc., and definitely not attended to by autoresponders.
>
> When I post a message to a mailing list, all I need to know is whether
> the moderator of the list approves of it.=A0 If they don't, they will
> surely indicate that (for example, by terminating my membership).
>
> What I _don't_ need to know is whether one or more of the list members
> did not receive my message because of politikal hyperkorrektness, or
> because they're on holiday and meanwhile, Wendy Flintstone is taking
> care of business, or because somebody's misguided spam filter thinks
> that helsinki.fi must be a spammer domain because it's not in .com,
> .net, .org, .edu or .mil.
>
> Sorry about the rambling, but I really am quite bored to tears of
> politikal korrektness and autoresponders of any kind on mailing lists.
>
> --=20
> Atro Tossavainen (Mr.)=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 / The =
Institute of Biotechnology=20
> at
> Systems Analyst, Techno-Amish &=A0=A0=A0=A0 / the University of =
Helsinki,=20
> Finland,
> +358-9-19158939=A0 UNIX Dinosaur=A0=A0=A0=A0 / employs me, but my =
opinions are=20
> my own.
> < URL : http : / / www . helsinki . fi / %7E atossava / > NO FILE=20
> ATTACHMENTS
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After careful consideration of both sides of the 'Bad language' debate
I fell it's high time for me to weigh in with my opinion:
Fuck nVidia.
Thank you.
Greg
On 09/12/2003, at 7:43 AM, Moyer, Steven wrote:
<excerpt><smaller>It is entirely possible that the user that you are
referring to is me.=A0 I am in State College, PA and I work for a
company that uses Scan-mail (which I have no control over).=A0 I
certainly can't say that I'm the only one since the Penn State
University is here (heavy with Mac hardware in some departments) and
the largest local school district is also Mac-based.</smaller>
<smaller>Having your e-mail blocked doesn't actually bother me at all,
as I don't necessarily want the e-mail that typically contains
language such as this.=A0 In your case, there was a technical basis for
the e-mail, but often, this is spam advertising pr0n, etc.=A0 As this is
a technical mailing list, I am however surprised that your expressions
can't be more accurately conveyed using other words.=A0 Assuming English
is your second language, I'm also impressed at your ability to
properly conjugate the odd verbs we use.=A0 It's a shame that we're also
exporting our vulgarities.</smaller>
<smaller>In any case, I will take a two-pronged approach.=A0 First, I'm
copying this e-mail to our IT department, as they maintain the
configuration of the ScanMail application (the IEEE mailing list is
also complaining).=A0 Second, I'm going to unsubscribe from this list as
the quality of the YellowDog distribution seems to get slower and
buggier with each release.=A0 Don't get me wrong, I have been a happy
user for several versions, but with Gentoo, if I don't like something,
it's my own fault.</smaller>
<smaller>Steve Moyer</smaller>=20
<smaller>-----Original Message-----</smaller>=20
<smaller>From: Atro Tossavainen
=
[<color><param>0000,0000,EEEE</param>mailto:atro.tossavainen+ydl@helsinki.=
fi</color>]</smaller>=20
<smaller>Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 6:48 AM</smaller>=20
<smaller>To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com</smaller>=20
<smaller>Subject: Bad language</smaller>=20
<smaller>I am sorry for the following off-topic message.=A0 It is not
related to</smaller>=20
<smaller>Macintosh, or to Yellow Dog Linux, but is tangentially
related to how</smaller>=20
<smaller>one behaves on mailing lists, so here goes.</smaller>=20
<smaller>I wrote in my last message:</smaller>=20
<smaller>> Ef you see kay nVidia, I say.</smaller>=20
<smaller>The unprotected version of the sentence above provoked the
wrath of</smaller>=20
<smaller>the ScanMail system of a subscriber in State College,
Pennsylvania.</smaller>=20
<smaller>The system sent me an automatic notice to say that the
message had</smaller>=20
<smaller>been quarantined.</smaller>=20
<smaller>While I am perfectly aware of the vulgar and rude nature of
the word</smaller>=20
<smaller>I used and others of its kind, I would nonetheless make the
bold</smaller>=20
<smaller>suggestion that people who subscribe to any mailing lists
should do so</smaller>=20
<smaller>from accounts not protected by automatic childminders,
content-related</smaller>=20
<smaller>spam filters, etc., and definitely not attended to by
autoresponders.</smaller>=20
<smaller>When I post a message to a mailing list, all I need to know
is whether</smaller>=20
<smaller>the moderator of the list approves of it.=A0 If they don't,
they will</smaller>=20
<smaller>surely indicate that (for example, by terminating my
membership).</smaller>=20
<smaller>What I _don't_ need to know is whether one or more of the
list members</smaller>=20
<smaller>did not receive my message because of politikal
hyperkorrektness, or</smaller>=20
<smaller>because they're on holiday and meanwhile, Wendy Flintstone is
taking</smaller>=20
<smaller>care of business, or because somebody's misguided spam filter
thinks</smaller>=20
<smaller>that helsinki.fi must be a spammer domain because it's not in
.com,</smaller>=20
<smaller>.net, .org, .edu or .mil.</smaller>=20
<smaller>Sorry about the rambling, but I really am quite bored to
tears of</smaller>=20
<smaller>politikal korrektness and autoresponders of any kind on
mailing lists.</smaller>=20
<smaller>-- </smaller>
<smaller>Atro Tossavainen (Mr.)=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
/ The Institute of
Biotechnology at</smaller>=20
<smaller>Systems Analyst, Techno-Amish &=A0=A0=A0=A0 / the University of
Helsinki, Finland,</smaller>=20
<smaller>+358-9-19158939=A0 UNIX Dinosaur=A0=A0=A0=A0 / employs me, but =
my
opinions are my own.</smaller>=20
<smaller><< URL : http : / / www . helsinki . fi / %7E atossava / > NO
FILE ATTACHMENTS</smaller>=20
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<smaller>yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com</smaller>=20
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