Apple clones
Dr. Robert M. Fuhrer
yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
Mon Jun 2 18:45:01 2003
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From what I just saw, the CoreCrib computers use PC133 memory, which
is awfully slow. I expect that the motherboards have been harvested
from fairly old G4 machines. I wouldn't expect one of these with a
1.2GHz PPC G4 jammed in to perform anything like a new G4.
At 12:01 PM 6/2/2003 -0600,
yellowdog-general-request@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com wrote:
>Hmmm, you might consider going with a used older Mac, or those CoreCrib
>computers. With the CoreCrib, you could dictate exactly what you get
>and thus spend, and you'd be able to boot into OS X...
>
>
>On Monday, Jun 2, 2003, at 07:45 America/Los_Angeles, N.Thompson wrote:
>
> > I'm not necessarily looking for cheap stuff, I am just exploring my
> > options.
> > One of the reasons I am interested in clones is that I was simply
> > looking
> > for a basic system and the G4's (windtunnels) are not basic systems. I
> > wanted to try Mac OSX one of these day's and if that didn't work I
> > would
> > just install Linux on the box, but either way I would probably have
> > ended up
> > dual booting as that is what I alway's end up doing anyway. :-)
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gary Shelton" <omega996@mac.com>
> > To: <yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com>
> > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 12:45 AM
> > Subject: Re: Apple clones
> >
> >
> >> No doubt someone else can provide better details, but I don't think
> >> there have been any legitimate clones produced since the introduction
> >> of the G3 (PPC 750) processor. The guy who's working on the iBox
> >> design
> >> isn't making clones - they're Apple replacement parts in new
> >> enclosures. If you're looking for a clone in North America or Europe,
> >> I'd think you'd have the best luck looking for a Power Computing,
> >> Umax,
> >> or Motorola clone. I'm reasonably certain that all of these machines
> >> shipped with either 601, 603, or 604 processors. That's the same as
> >> buying an old Apple 7x00, 8x00, or 9x00. They're good machines to run
> >> Linux on (my own mail server runs on a Motorola StarMax 4000, and I
> >> have a 9600 that I use as a very nice workstation), but upgrading them
> >> get a bit pricey if you're starting from scratch. Of course, you can
> >> build the systems piecemeal, which makes it more affordable. But in
> >> truth, unless you're buying a broken machine, no Apple is going to be
> >> cheap. If you're wanting cheap hardware, stick with the ia32 commodity
> >> stuff.
> >>
> >> On Sunday, Jun 1, 2003, at 18:24 America/Los_Angeles, N.Thompson
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I have had an interest in apple computers for a while but I have
> >>> noticed that
> >>> they don't seem to have any stores in Canada and their prices are
> >>> also
> >>> high
> >>> (in my opinion) because there have previously been few or no clones
> >>> that I
> >>> have know of until the iBox, does anyone know of other apple clones
> >>> of
> >>> interest.
> >>> --
Cheers,
-- Bob
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<tt>From what I just saw, the CoreCrib computers use PC133 memory,
which<br>
is awfully slow. I expect that the motherboards have been harvested<br>
from fairly old G4 machines. I wouldn't expect one of these with a<br>
1.2GHz PPC G4 jammed in to perform anything like a new G4.<br><br>
</tt>At 12:01 PM 6/2/2003 -0600,
yellowdog-general-request@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>Hmmm, you might consider going with
a used older Mac, or those CoreCrib <br>
computers. With the CoreCrib, you could dictate exactly what you
get <br>
and thus spend, and you'd be able to boot into OS X...<br><br>
<br>
On Monday, Jun 2, 2003, at 07:45 America/Los_Angeles, N.Thompson
wrote:<br><br>
> I'm not necessarily looking for cheap stuff, I am just exploring
my <br>
> options.<br>
> One of the reasons I am interested in clones is that I was
simply <br>
> looking<br>
> for a basic system and the G4's (windtunnels) are not basic systems.
I<br>
> wanted to try Mac OSX one of these day's and if that didn't work
I <br>
> would<br>
> just install Linux on the box, but either way I would probably
have <br>
> ended up<br>
> dual booting as that is what I alway's end up doing anyway.
:-)<br>
><br>
> ----- Original Message -----<br>
> From: "Gary Shelton" <omega996@mac.com><br>
> To: <yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com><br>
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 12:45 AM<br>
> Subject: Re: Apple clones<br>
><br>
><br>
>> No doubt someone else can provide better details, but I don't
think<br>
>> there have been any legitimate clones produced since the
introduction<br>
>> of the G3 (PPC 750) processor. The guy who's working on the
iBox <br>
>> design<br>
>> isn't making clones - they're Apple replacement parts in
new<br>
>> enclosures. If you're looking for a clone in North America or
Europe,<br>
>> I'd think you'd have the best luck looking for a Power
Computing, <br>
>> Umax,<br>
>> or Motorola clone. I'm reasonably certain that all of these
machines<br>
>> shipped with either 601, 603, or 604 processors. That's the same
as<br>
>> buying an old Apple 7x00, 8x00, or 9x00. They're good machines
to run<br>
>> Linux on (my own mail server runs on a Motorola StarMax 4000,
and I<br>
>> have a 9600 that I use as a very nice workstation), but
upgrading them<br>
>> get a bit pricey if you're starting from scratch. Of course, you
can<br>
>> build the systems piecemeal, which makes it more affordable. But
in<br>
>> truth, unless you're buying a broken machine, no Apple is going
to be<br>
>> cheap. If you're wanting cheap hardware, stick with the ia32
commodity<br>
>> stuff.<br>
>><br>
>> On Sunday, Jun 1, 2003, at 18:24 America/Los_Angeles,
N.Thompson <br>
>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> I have had an interest in apple computers for a while but I
have<br>
>>> noticed that<br>
>>> they don't seem to have any stores in Canada and their
prices are <br>
>>> also<br>
>>> high<br>
>>> (in my opinion) because there have previously been few or no
clones<br>
>>> that I<br>
>>> have know of until the iBox, does anyone know of other apple
clones <br>
>>> of<br>
>>> interest.<br>
>>> -- </blockquote><br>
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Cheers,<br>
-- Bob</body>
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