Apple clones

[chip]

Just to through in my two cents . . .

My YDL box is an 8500 with 768M of old style DIMM memory and a G3/266 CPU
and a Rage 128 card.  It's not the ultimate gaming machine, but it is snappy
and responsive. . . PC133 memory is not "awfully slow", it's faster than the
memory in my G4 Cube that I use for editing weddings in final cut . . .

Save yourself some money and headaches, buy a used Blue & White G3 from
ebay, or save even more and buy a biege G3 (mine has a G4/400 upgrade and I
play Unreal Tournament on it all the time . . .)

Throwing some sanity in the discussion . . .
Chip

> On June 2, 2003 10:13 pm, Dr. Robert M. Fuhrer wrote:
> 
> I may just go for an eMac or something like it then because I just want to try
> the PPC architecture and OS X and I'm getting the hint that the CoreCrib
> isn't the best way to do that .
> 
>>  From what I just saw, the CoreCrib computers use PC133 memory, which
>> is awfully slow. I expect that the motherboards have been harvested
>> from fairly old G4 machines. I wouldn't expect one of these with a
>> 1.2GHz PPC G4 jammed in to perform anything like a new G4.
>> 
>> At 12:01 PM 6/2/2003 -0600,
>> 
>> yellowdog-general-request@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com wrote:
>>> Hmmm, you might consider going with a used older Mac, or those CoreCrib
>>> computers. With the CoreCrib, you could dictate exactly what you get
>>> and thus spend, and you'd be able to boot into OS X...
>>> 
>>> On Monday, Jun 2, 2003, at 07:45 America/Los_Angeles, N.Thompson wrote:
>>>> I'm not necessarily looking for cheap stuff, I am just exploring my
>>>> options.
>>>> One of the reasons I am interested in clones is that I was simply
>>>> looking
>>>> for a basic system and the G4's (windtunnels) are not basic systems. I
>>>> wanted to try Mac OSX one of these day's and if that didn't work I
>>>> would
>>>> just install Linux on the box, but either way I would probably have
>>>> ended up
>>>> dual booting as that is what I alway's end up doing anyway. :-)
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Gary Shelton" <omega996@mac.com>
>>>> To: <yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com>
>>>> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 12:45 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Apple clones
>>>> 
>>>>> No doubt someone else can provide better details, but I don't think
>>>>> there have been any legitimate clones produced since the introduction
>>>>> of the G3 (PPC 750) processor. The guy who's working on the iBox
>>>>> design
>>>>> isn't making clones - they're Apple replacement parts in new
>>>>> enclosures. If you're looking for a clone in North America or Europe,
>>>>> I'd think you'd have the best luck looking for a Power Computing,
>>>>> Umax,
>>>>> or Motorola clone. I'm reasonably certain that all of these machines
>>>>> shipped with either 601, 603, or 604 processors. That's the same as
>>>>> buying an old Apple 7x00, 8x00, or 9x00. They're good machines to run
>>>>> Linux on (my own mail server runs on a Motorola StarMax 4000, and I
>>>>> have a 9600 that I use as a very nice workstation), but upgrading them
>>>>> get a bit pricey if you're starting from scratch. Of course, you can
>>>>> build the systems piecemeal, which makes it more affordable. But in
>>>>> truth, unless you're buying a broken machine, no Apple is going to be
>>>>> cheap. If you're wanting cheap hardware, stick with the ia32 commodity
>>>>> stuff.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sunday, Jun 1, 2003, at 18:24 America/Los_Angeles, N.Thompson
>>>>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> I have had an interest in apple computers for a while but I have
>>>>>> noticed that
>>>>>> they don't seem to have any stores in Canada and their prices are
>>>>>> also
>>>>>> high
>>>>>> (in my opinion) because there have previously been few or no clones
>>>>>> that I
>>>>>> have know of until the iBox, does anyone know of other apple clones
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> interest.
>>>>>> --
>> 
>> Cheers,
>>    -- Bob