HFS+

Natalia Portillo yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
Thu Jun 19 11:01:01 2003


P.S.: The HFS+ journaling option is implemented as the ext3 one, as a
simple file (well, except that in HFS+ is a system special file), not as
in reiserfs or xfs (metadata) or ntfs (the journal is a special FORK
inside a special system file), so the performance hit is sure the same
with HFS+ and ext3.

> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: yellowdog-general-admin@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com 
> [mailto:yellowdog-general-admin@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com] 
> En nombre de nathan r. hruby
> Enviado el: jueves, 19 de junio de 2003 17:31
> Para: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> Asunto: RE: HFS+
> 
> 
> On Thu, 19 Jun 2003, Christopher Murtagh wrote:
> 
> >  Having worked with Macs for more than 10 years, I can 
> honestly say that I
> > have seen more corrupted HFS[+] file systems than anything else. The
> > journaling took a pretty serious performance hit (from 
> Apple's own specs,
> > which oftem means much worse in the real world). It also is a 'case
> > insensitive, case preserving' (read 'worst of both worlds') 
>  file system,
> > and as you said 'things that no other file system have' (read:
> > 'incompatible with everything') such as resource/data forks. IMO,
> > resource/data forks, icon positioning, application 
> association, etc. are
> > things that should be handled at the application or 
> operating system level
> > and not the file system. For example, icon position is useless on a
> > machine that is only used in console mode. Apple seems to 
> agree with this
> > as well, which is somewhat obvious in their .DS_Store, 
> ._SomeFileName
> > files and with the .app extension really being a folder 
> (with data and
> > resource items separated). I think that this is really a 
> better move.
> > 
> 
> Agreed, I just wish they'd quit sitting on the fence.  Maybe now that 
> machines aren't booting os9 anymore, this will chnage in panther.
> 
> >  So, there you have it. This is why I think HFS+ should 
> have died with 
> > Classic.
> 
> Well, you do forget that there's a lot of apple stuff tuned to HFS+ 
> (namely, Appletalk.. which is why SFP performance blows the 
> doors off NFs 
> performance).. there's a lot fo internals that need to deassume HFS, 
> especially with 3rd party apps, many of which still require 
> HFS specific 
> metatdata and options.
> 
> -n
> 
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> nathan hruby <nathan@drama.uga.edu>
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