"Guide to Installation" my foot!

chip yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
Sun May 25 19:31:01 2003


I also upgraded using this basic methodology.

First and foremost, anyone building a new box, PUT HOME ON ITS OWN
PARTITION!

Then I backed up etc, var, usr (overkill, but I had the disk space)

Used the installer, did a custom install
Used disk druid to format everything except /home
Used disk druid to upgrade /home to ext3
And installed my packages . . .

My server had been up 225 days prior to the rebuild, it is a PM8500, 768 MB,
promax IDE card with 2 hard drives, a ricoh burner, Rage 128 Pro card, and a
MacSense 10/100 net card.  I has a carrier card installed with the G3/266
CPU out of my G3 Desktop . . .

Total time to rebuild - 4.5 hours including installing Courier Imap and
qmail . . .

Used disc images snagged from bit torrent, but will be buying the distro
shortly . . . Or at least some shirts from the goodies page . . . (anybody
know which ends up helping them the most financially?? I'd either buy the
geek edition or a t-shirt and a couple of sweat shirts . . .)

FWIW,
Chip

> You seem to be making the most effort to screw up that I can Imagine.
> Use your common sense.  I installed 3 over 2.3 without many problems on
> an oldworld wallstreet, a pismo, a 1st generation TI Powerbook and a G4
> tower (with a 22" cinema display -see my earlier message on the problems
> and their resolution with the cinema display and the radeon 7500).  The
> "guide" is intended for those that are starting an install onto a
> machine that has never had YDL on it.  Since you are re-installing (and
> I assume you made your /home partition separate to the root (/)
> partition), its a simple matter of selecting the "custom" install,
> manually partitioning with disk druid, and "editing" the root partition
> to be mounted as /, and formatted as EXT3. The install replaces the root
> partition without destroying the data on your /home partition (which
> means you can save things like your old /etc directory before you start
> the install - then use them to "remind" you about any configuration
> issues you had before).
> You can even convert your /home partition to ext3 by running tune2fs
> while /home is unmounted (read the man page).
> G++
> 
> Beartooth wrote:
>> All right, I bought the CDs, intending to install over the top
>> of 2.3 -- and sacrifice everything already there <gnash, grate, snarl>,
>> since there seems to be no option of preserving any, as for instance RH9
>> does. That's one crock already, though not a surprise. But 2.3 is so bad
>> at the multiple connections you need with a laptop that it's gotta be
>> done,
>> 
>> The accompanying book and pamphlet both insist that one use the
>> so-called Guide to Installation, printed out from the Yellowdoglinux.com
>> site. All I can find seems to be identical to the little pamphlet
>> (called a Companion, not a guide), which came with the CDs, which
>> insists that it is only an addendum. That's another and more disgusting
>> crock. Joseph Heller, are you YDL's silent partner??
>> 
>> So I decide to try to go ahead -- after all, they brag about how
>> easy it is, and how much like RH9 (which I have just installed on my
>> desktop). 
>> 
>> First I go read the manual and the non-guide "companion" --
>> which tell me to start by repartitioning, using the apple install disk.
>> So I go dig that out. When I get to something remotely resembling the
>> place they tell me, a window labelled Select a Destination, there are
>> images of hard drives labelled Mac OS X 10.3GB, share 1.0GB, and a faint
>> image of a CD labelled Mac OS X Install CD 639MB
>> 
>> Now I'm supposed to double-click on the install CD. But if you
>> put a cursor near it, you get a message saying "This disk is dimmed
>> because it is read only" -- and if you double-click it anyway, nothing
>> happens. You can't even get to the Utilities folder, let alone one
>> inside it. Still another crock, and still getting worse.
>> 
>> All right, trying to get out of that, I go back and re-boot,
>> with the C key held down till my arm about falls off, while the CD makes
>> a huge racket, just as I did (and it did) before. That simply closes the
>> loop, and gets me back to the dim disk. Still another crock.
>> 
>> So maybe it's just the ostensibly fine manual that's snafu'd.
>> Put in 3.0 Install 1 without reartitioning first; maybe that'll do it.
>> 
>> Of course they don't tell you you have to hold C again -- unless
>> it's in that boot message, which is so tiny and goes by in seconds,
>> anyway; so you waste still more time. But you do eventually get to
>> "Welcome to Yellow Dog Linux" -- which tells you yet again to read the
>> fine but non-extant Guide ...
>> 
>> [To Be Continued -- stay tuned]
>> 
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