Observations
S.M.Kelly
yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
Fri May 30 10:44:01 2003
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Awesome,
Installed with no probs. However, how do I get it to show up in the
choice of sessions at the GUI login?
Thanks!
On Fri, 2003-05-30 at 11:10, Neben Kabon wrote:
> It appears so...
>
> http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=fluxbox+ppc
>
> On Fri, 2003-05-30 at 09:50, S.M.Kelly wrote:
> > Any PPC binaries for FluxBox? I'm interested, but haven't done any of
> > my own compiling yet. Thanks for the rest of your info!
> >
> > SMK
> >
> > On Fri, 2003-05-30 at 09:20, Ben Hall wrote:
> >
> > > S.M.Kelly wrote:
> > >
> > > > First, my CPU fan seems to run almost constantly. My CPU is usually
> > > > fairly idle and doesn't seem to be running many active threads. This
> > > > makes battery life horrible.
> > >
> > >
> > > I have an iBook 700, I've also noticed that Linux runs hotter (and thus
> > > louder) than OSX (or XP on an Intel laptop.) There are many reasons for
> > > this. For starters, the HD doesn't spin down nearly as much. To fix
> > > this you can do several things:
> > >
> > > - Install bdflush
> > > - Fiddle with hdparm to set the sleep delay
> > > - Use Ext2 or at least set the write times for the Ext3 journal for
> > > something quite large
> > > - Disable any unneeded daemons (such as, I would argue, the cron and at
> > > scripts.)
> > >
> > > I suppose throttling the CPU back would help battery life qute a bit.
> > > I'm not sure how this is done, but know it's possible.
> > >
> > > Linux runs a lot of stuff in the background, any of these can wake up
> > > the HD. With a lot of care, power management in Linux can be pretty
> > > much what it is on OSX or XP, but it takes a lot of fiddling. FWIW,
> > > I've found the PM stuff for Apple HW to be lightyears ahead of the PM
> > > for Intel HW, it's one of the reasons I like the iBook so much as a
> > > Linux box.
> > >
> > > > Second, Gnome uses a lot of RAM! As I use Gnome, I see my RAM usage
> > > > steadily creeping up until it gets to nearly 95% of usage. (remember,
> > > > I have 512mb!) When I use KDE, it stays around 30-40% usage. I use
> > > > the same applications most of the day. (Xmms, Evolution, OOo, primarily)
> > >
> > >
> > > Hmmm.. big surprise! Yeah, probably just memory leaks/buggy software.
> > > Have you tried something lighter like FluxBox or XFce? They are very
> > > useable, stable and make Gnome and KDE feel like dogs. It's hard to
> > > kick FluxBox's tabs once you get used to them.
> > >
> > > > Third, I NEVER have seen my 512mb swap file being used. Does the swap
> > > > file only get used when your physical RAM is maxed?
> > >
> > >
> > > Yup, this is normal. It's also quite normal for Linux to always use up
> > > as much RAM as possible, it's just sitting there, so they might as well.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Ben
> > >
> > >
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> >
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> >
> > S.M.Kelly
> > =============================
> > SMKSensei@Mac.com
> > "A Windows professional who uses a Mac running Linux."
>
>
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Awesome,<BR>
Installed with no probs. However, how do I get it to show up in the choice of sessions at the GUI login?<BR>
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Thanks!<BR>
<BR>
On Fri, 2003-05-30 at 11:10, Neben Kabon wrote:
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On Fri, 2003-05-30 at 09:50, S.M.Kelly wrote:
> Any PPC binaries for FluxBox? I'm interested, but haven't done any of
> my own compiling yet. Thanks for the rest of your info!
>
> SMK
>
> On Fri, 2003-05-30 at 09:20, Ben Hall wrote:
>
> > S.M.Kelly wrote:
> >
> > > First, my CPU fan seems to run almost constantly. My CPU is usually
> > > fairly idle and doesn't seem to be running many active threads. This
> > > makes battery life horrible.
> >
> >
> > I have an iBook 700, I've also noticed that Linux runs hotter (and thus
> > louder) than OSX (or XP on an Intel laptop.) There are many reasons for
> > this. For starters, the HD doesn't spin down nearly as much. To fix
> > this you can do several things:
> >
> > - Install bdflush
> > - Fiddle with hdparm to set the sleep delay
> > - Use Ext2 or at least set the write times for the Ext3 journal for
> > something quite large
> > - Disable any unneeded daemons (such as, I would argue, the cron and at
> > scripts.)
> >
> > I suppose throttling the CPU back would help battery life qute a bit.
> > I'm not sure how this is done, but know it's possible.
> >
> > Linux runs a lot of stuff in the background, any of these can wake up
> > the HD. With a lot of care, power management in Linux can be pretty
> > much what it is on OSX or XP, but it takes a lot of fiddling. FWIW,
> > I've found the PM stuff for Apple HW to be lightyears ahead of the PM
> > for Intel HW, it's one of the reasons I like the iBook so much as a
> > Linux box.
> >
> > > Second, Gnome uses a lot of RAM! As I use Gnome, I see my RAM usage
> > > steadily creeping up until it gets to nearly 95% of usage. (remember,
> > > I have 512mb!) When I use KDE, it stays around 30-40% usage. I use
> > > the same applications most of the day. (Xmms, Evolution, OOo, primarily)
> >
> >
> > Hmmm.. big surprise! Yeah, probably just memory leaks/buggy software.
> > Have you tried something lighter like FluxBox or XFce? They are very
> > useable, stable and make Gnome and KDE feel like dogs. It's hard to
> > kick FluxBox's tabs once you get used to them.
> >
> > > Third, I NEVER have seen my 512mb swap file being used. Does the swap
> > > file only get used when your physical RAM is maxed?
> >
> >
> > Yup, this is normal. It's also quite normal for Linux to always use up
> > as much RAM as possible, it's just sitting there, so they might as well.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Ben
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > yellowdog-general mailing list
> > yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> > </FONT><A HREF="http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general"><FONT SIZE="3">http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general</FONT></A>
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>
> S.M.Kelly
> =============================
> SMKSensei@Mac.com
> "A Windows professional who uses a Mac running Linux."
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