yellowdog-general digest, Vol 1 #1239 - The Independent Ones

Sat Jan 17 15:39:01 2004

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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:yellowdog-general-request@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com">yellowdog-general-request@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com</a> wrote:<br>
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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 17:14:57 -0500
From: Harvey Ussery <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:huboxwood@earthlink.net">&lt;huboxwood@earthlink.net&gt;</a>
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com">yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com</a>
Subject: Re: Your Honest opinion
Reply-To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com">yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com</a>

I agree with Norberto--it is a loaded question. Depends on what you want 
from your OS. I used OSX exclusively for awhile after I bought this 
iMac--and then I just &gt;had&lt; to get back to Linux (even though to be sure 
it sometimes is a pain in the butt!). Most of the pre-rolled stuff in 
OSX is stuff I'll never use, and the production applic's I tried (word 
processor, spreadsheet) I found really unsatisfactory. Of course you can 
install fink &amp; bring in Mac compatible versions of open source stuff 
like Abiword and Gnumeric--I did, and it was 'way more trouble than it 
was worth.

And I found OSX really opaque if I needed to figure anything out that 
wasn't already set up as a button to click. (Yeah I know, there's 
Darwin; but whenever I got into it I got pretty frustrated--admittedly, 
probably because I was used to bash.)

And have you tried the "Help" system in OSX??!! It is astounding that 
Apple can get away with such an unmitigated piece of crap!

OSX is like Windows in that it is designed for, and is probably the 
right solution for, someone with a plug&amp;play approach to use of his 
computer. Linux appeals to someone cantankerous enough not to want 
someone else trying to determine how he should do things.

How cantankerous are you?    --Harvey

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Viva las quimeristas!! &nbsp;Long live the cantankerous and onery!! &nbsp; 
Sometimes I pine for Mac OS software like Now, but more &amp; more the
Mac OS is becoming a mere address book as I do more complex work in
Linux using YDL. &nbsp;Indeed, the use of YDL and their foresight in packing
it with the Open Office (OO) suite, amongst other things (they should
consider throwing in Blender (see blender.org)as well; &nbsp;the GIMP really
astonishes me putting GraphicConverter (the shareware standby) to
shame. &nbsp;Let's see the comfort of a homey OS which guides and shelters
you vs. an OS which is as transparent, dynamic, responsive and wild as
the Mustangs of the previous century challenging you to face the wind
head on. &nbsp; 
 
Really, only with Linux is your open source code going to remain open
source irregardless of what Apple is doing or has said. &nbsp;Apple is a
company, and if they want to they can pick up everything in their OS
and move on to something else, and folks though, "the Steve", is really
outrageous and fantastic -- he will not live forever. &nbsp;What then,
another Sculley or Amelio? &nbsp;Apple's history is not as sturdy as IBM or
AT&amp;T, never has been; examine the wasteland of software products
that no longer are. &nbsp;Yet, I can get today a working version of OO or
StarOffice working on my box now via YDL, but to get StarOffice for
MacOS X is not an option and getting OO to work within OS X is not
something I would even wish on an enemy. &nbsp;What about BBedit? &nbsp;Well,
with a bit of research and study I got vim to behave to my satisfaction
in the ways I like to use BBedit and I know vim has more capacity than
that company ever dreamed of, and likewise for xemacs. &nbsp; 
 
We cannot feel the rush wind passing through our hair and the mane of a
live strong and intelligent horse, a dear friend and partner, crossing
the expanse of the plains. &nbsp;We can however explore and endeavor to
expand our programming and other technological skills via YDL and other
Linuxes without anyone telling any one of us; such and such must not be
done! &nbsp;Open Source is the ultimate community and truly world wide
effort; this is not as profound as the Pyramids of Egypt but it is
much, much bigger. &nbsp;Anyone at anytime can join and contribute; the work
of Open Source will last as long as there are humans thinking. &nbsp;Whereas
what can be done to add, save, discover or rebuild the pyramids has
already been done and already is the past. &nbsp;Open Source is the present
and very much the future. 
 
It has been said before me, and I'll quote it hear again but with my
twist regarding creativity, "Nobody is as smart - and creative - as
everybody!" 
 
 
Harvey, this was a trick question, right??? 
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