gentoo

[Greg Hamilton]

I run much slower hardware than you and don't have the time to wait for 
large packages to build from source. I have a feeling that getting a 
Gentoo install running on my iBook would take days. I'd rather install 
pre-built binaries.

Binary package managers work much the same as portage but without the 
delay while the source is compiled.

To install Ogle for YDL all you need to do is:
$ ydl install ogle

And then a (probably really old) version of Ogle installs. Magic.

In Debian much the same:
$ apt-get install ogle

If I wanted access to more up-to-date packages I'd probably install 
Debian in preference to Gentoo, gotta love those binary packages.

On 23/03/2004, at 9:29 PM, Simon Slaytor wrote:

> I wouldn't call myself a Geek, but I'm currently running Gentoo on my
> Dual G4 Gigabit.
>
> No Gentoo dosn't have an installer like Yellow Dog so it takes a little
> more work to install and get running, but it's not difficult and the
> instruction are actually very good.
>
> So why run Gentoo? well two reasons for me first it's way way way more
> up-to-date than YD. I'm writing this e-mail on Ximian 1.4 running on
> Gnome 2.4.2, Mozilla is 1.5 (popup blocking yeah!) and my kernel is
> 2.4.24 The second reason for installing Gentoo over YD was portage.
>
> If your familiar with FreeBSD / NetBSD etc you'll know all about the
> ports collection. If not let me give a brief example.
>
> On Gentoo if I wanted to install OGLE (DVD Video Player, requires DeCSS
> etc), I simply call up a shell do a CD to /usr/portage/media-video/ogle
> I then type emerge ogle. The Gentoo emerge system then takes care of
> downloading OGLE and all dependencies, builds each one from source and
> finally installs OGLE onto my Gnome menu.
>
> No RPM's no missing / outdated libs etc it just works. You can update
> your entire system as easily as emerge sync (get's the latest portage
> collection) emerge --update --upgradeonly world (upgrades everthing to
> the latest version included in the portage list)
>
> All I can say is Gentoo is worth the little extra effort needed to get
> it installed and running, plus you'll have a much better understanding
> of Linux after it's done.
>
> Regards
>
> Simon
>
>
> On Tue, 2004-03-23 at 11:51, Thierry de Coulon wrote:
>> On Tuesday 23 March 2004 00:30, Larry Autry wrote:
>>> It only took a glance at the Gentoo install doc to help me decide 
>>> not to
>>> install Gentoo. The document does not read like an install guide as 
>>> does
>>> the YDL install doc. It reads more like a reference book than a 
>>> how-to.  If
>>> I need a reference book, I'll download it. As an install document, 
>>> the
>>> document attempts to cover way too much territory. That's about as 
>>> kind as
>>> I can be.
>>
>> The point is: you'll need that reference book to install Gentoo 
>> (which I did
>> on the PC but not on the Mac). I did it mostly to get a better 
>> understanding
>> in how Linux works.
>>
>> Gentoo is not in the same league as YDL. It's clearly a distribution 
>> for
>> Geeks.
>>
>> Thierry
>
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