yum upgrade hangs (corrected version)

[Derick Centeno]

Hi Spundun:
It appears now you've entered a different kind of scenario where you 
have to share a bit more information as to what kind of hardware you 
actually have.
The general assumption is that OS X is running on either a New World 
G4/G5 processor which is on the motherboard.  Some have gotten YDL to 
run on Old World machines using G3s, but these systems require BootX 
(which isn't available with YDL 4, because TSS doesn't provide or 
support BootX from YDL 4 forward) using particular settings within 
BootX to access YDL 4 and so on.  You describe having or maintaining a 
YDL 2 partition, suggesting to me that you have an older G3, not a G4 
or G5.  I had heard a few people running OS X on a G3, maybe you could 
be one of them but now the issue becomes a bit weird because if your 
system is New World then you have to modify yaboot.conf to access the 
YDL 2 partition and the YDL 4 partition (upon your whim).  As far as I 
have read yaboot.conf is optimized to access one partition at a time.  
This means either YDL 2 or YDL 4.

I have not heard of someone using 2 different yaboot.conf to access 
each different partition.  That doesn't mean it isn't possible, I just 
haven't heard of it and I've been participating on these lists for a 
while.  However, I'm not an engineering whiz so... who is to say what 
can or cannot be done.

BootX runs from Mac OS 9 and earlier and when it functions appears as a 
dialog box before the Mac boots up giving you the option to choose 
which kernel you want to boot into.  Oddly enough BootX CAN boot into 
multiple and different YDL kernels on a whim, when they exist in their 
own partitions.  WHY someone would keep these older partitions is a 
matter of choice as those older partitions are susceptible to security 
vulnerabilities and other problems (which is why most people move up 
(copy essential files, not applications) and abandon those older 
versions); of course, one could be attached to a favorite program or 
some endeared feature which is not supported any more because the 
programming team passed away.  In any event, the issue now is, your 
hardware.   A re-evaluation by you of what you are using YDL 2 for 
might be prudent as well as a consideration to move whatever you are 
doing in YDL 2 to YDL 4.

The question is the hardware and what are the specifics of the 
partition structure of your drive.  The partition structure can and 
will change according to whatever you choose to do.

Until more information is available from you; it would take a bit of a 
mystic to suggest anything else, and probably not a good mystic at 
that.

Anyway, the information here should be enough to at least help you 
consider where you stand.  You can also reference the TSS website 
regarding what they are supporting.

Best wishes...

On Jul 13, 2005, at 6:06 PM, Spundun Bhatt wrote:

> Thanks for your response Eric.
>
> I burned a cd and installed ydl 4.0... but it skrewed up the booting a 
> little bit... on the machine there were 3 OSes macosx, ydl2.0 and 
> ydl3.0 .. I replaced ydl3.0 with ydl 4.0 but now on boot I get options 
> only for ydl4.0 and macosx .. ydl2.0 seems to have vanished from the 
> options...
>
> The partition which has the ydl 2.0 system is still in tact...
>
> Can someone tell me how can I insert that boot option back into the 
> boot loader? I really need it.
>
> Thanks
> Spundun
>
> Eric Dunbar wrote:
>
>> Also, if you SMB, make sure that you check the mailing list for
>> instructions on how to compile SMB server (it's an EASY process... you
>> just have to follow the steps and wait about 2 hours (on a G3/266 128
>> MB RAM)). There's a problem with the one that comes with 4.0.
>>
>> If you need that SMB server info, let me know and I can look in my
>> mail archive and pull out the relevant thread for you.
>>
>> Eric.
>>
>> On 7/12/05, Eric Dunbar <eric.dunbar at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/12/05, Eric Dunbar <eric.dunbar at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Spundun,
>>>>
>>>> Unless you're particularly wedded to your current install I would
>>>> suggest you bite the bullet and start fresh with 4.0. Upgrading to 
>>>> 4.0
>>>> from 3.0.1 was less than a satisfactory experience for me. It 
>>>> worked,
>>>> but it didn't work well. X/GNOME/KDE were fairly broken as was the 
>>>> GUI
>>>> updater mechanism.
>>>>
>>> I must point out that it was the upgrade process that I found
>>> unsatisfactory -- it's a crap shoot IMO. I'm sure that 4.0 is a more
>>> useful OS than 3.0.1 for most users (I don't use any features and
>>> software special to 4.0/4.0.1 so I can't comment on 4.0 vs. 3.0.1).
>>>
>
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