[ydl-gen] No video hardware acceleration on PS3

[Steven H. Rogers]

I'm still planning to buy one.  Even with the current limitation on video, 
the PS3 with YDL seems to be a cost effective HPC workstation or compute 
node.  Accelerated graphics would be very nice for data visualization, but I 
can live without it for a while.  The last time I played with a 
supercomputer, it was over a WAN a couple of hundred miles away and there 
was no graphics at all.

Steve

ugo wrote:
> You're so right Brian, somebody has to jump first... I wish I could if I 
> wasn't in Europe.
> And that's also why I'm not confiant in Sony (plus the rootkit story): 
> they said the ps3 release would be all over the world for the same day. 
> Marketing rules...
> Whatever.
> 
> You say that Terrasoft is not to blame, and that's true for sure. No 
> operating system developer can be blamed for not making the work of 
> industrials who are the one who should give drivers for their products. 
> If it was the case all Linux distributions would be greatly blamed for 
> many driver problems and that would be more than unfair: completly absurd.
> 
> Tell me if I'm wrong:
> Who took the decision of this hypervisor filter and why ?
> Sony ? they are just building RSX but it is an NVidia product.
> NVidia ? for them that's certainly Sony trouble.
> I supose that if we try to find out who's behind this to ask an help, we 
> would lost a lot of time.
> The real trouble seems that NVidia driver's codes are not opened, so it 
> may be difficult for linux communities to work on it by their own.
> 
> I still not understand what is exactly this "hypervisor filter stuff" (I 
> wish i will...) but I guess that it will be long to pass through because 
> it seems to be a complex trouble first, and then because it wont be easy 
> to find a legal way to friendly develop and distribute the solution.
> 
> 
> Any information is wellcome !
> 
> 2006/11/15, Brian Wood <beww at bresnan.net <mailto:beww at bresnan.net>>:
> 
> 
> 
>     On Nov 15, 2006, at 1:22 AM, Warren Nagourney wrote:
> 
>      > Well, the lack of 2D and 3D graphics acceleration has been confirmed
>      > on the YDL website (I think recently - I don't remember its being in
>      > the FAQ earlier). I think this situation is laughable - why would
>      > anyone spend this money on a machine with such lame graphics? For
>      > this price, one can get a fully functional PC with a supported
>      > graphics card (something I would do if I didn't have strong
>      > objections to X86).  I have no interest in games, so I think I will
>      > give the PS3 a miss. The Cell processor is quite interesting and I
>      > will continue to use my fully functional powerbook in OS X until a
>      > well supported Cell machine becomes available (if ever).
>      >
> 
> 
>     I agree with you in general, no support of accelerated video is a
>     major problem.
> 
>     But it *is* a start. When I first started playing with Linux you had
>     to purchase a commercial X server if you wanted support for a (then)
>     state-of-the-art Mach-64 card. Later you had to pay if you wanted a
>     NeoMagic laptop graphics adapter supported. Both these situations
>     were ultimately rectified, and didn't stop folks from running Linux
>     on such hardware.
> 
>     I wonder if any of the commercial vendors like Xi will be making
>     drivers for the PS3 video ? (Do they even still exist?).
> 
>     And I suspect that it is Sony that is to blame for the situation, not
>     Terrasoft. Terrasoft has been nothing but good for the Linux
>     community while Sony is so arrogant as to honestly believe that
>     installing rootkits on user's machines without their OK is legitimate
>     protection of their "rights".
> 
>     If nobody starts to run Linux on PS3s there will be no development.
>     Somebody has to be the first to dance.
> 
>     So maybe I'll buy a PS3 anyway.
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