[ydl-gen] [SPAM] Re: My gcc3.4.4 installation screwed upon ydl4.1

[Derick Centeno]

Hi Joshua:

I'm sympathetic that he may have some things rather unique to his  
setup; but rpm will not pull in all the other associated dependent  
programs necessary to make compilation successful within the 4.1  
environment, or any environment for that matter.
He needs yum.  And since he crippled yum there is no other easy  
resolution other than a full reinstall or reinstalling just those  
packages he actually uses.

He may not need say the games within KDE, so he can leave that out.   
You obviously get the picture...

Anaconda can help him reinstall just the stuff he wants and next time  
he'll be more careful when removing things from his system.

While we are discussing this it's a good idea to remember to use rpm  
to remove specific packages, not yum.  Yum is great for installing  
stuff and finding all the things (dependencies and subdependencies) a  
certain package needs.  However, what makes yum great as an installer  
makes it a devil to pay when it's used to remove programs.  Yum not  
only removes the package you wish removed, but will remove the  
dependencies that package uses and related dependencies other related  
programs need as well -- and it keeps going!  And when you discover  
you need a program, a daemon or whatever you find it crippled, gone  
or worse.

That's apparently what happened.  This has happened to me at least  
twice, but once I understood how yum behaves I just don't run yum to  
remove anything.

Of course, we are not in Vincent's predicament.  However, a working  
version of YDL 4.1 is always better than whatever crippled version he  
has now missing whatever unknowns -- working and living that way is  
worse than living with sink holes.  At least, starting from scratch  
with a pristine install of YDL 4.1 he'll have a solid working no- 
nonsense system.

It's a pain to go that route to be sure, but I don't think he really  
has all that much of a choice given what's he described.

On Feb 7, 2007, at 5:03 PM, Richardson, Joshua A. wrote:

> Yep, that's exactly what I meant.  I also concur that you should  
> get the
> RPM off the CD, but don't know that you need to do a full reinstall?!
> That could cause some major headaches, specifically, we don't know if
> Vincent has a custom kernel or if he has additional non-YDL packages
> added on.  gcc can be a pain, but you can get it w/o reinstalling.
>
>
> Joshua A. Richardson
> (703) 272-1761 -- Office
> (540) 383-9093 - Cell
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: yellowdog-general-bounces at lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> [mailto:yellowdog-general-bounces at lists.terrasoftsolutions.com] On
> Behalf Of Derick Centeno
> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 4:59 PM
> To: Discussion List for General Yellow Dog Linux User Topics
> Subject: Re: [ydl-gen] [SPAM] Re: My gcc3.4.4 installation screwed  
> upon
> ydl4.1
>
> Hi Joshua:
>
> He meant that you download the source for gcc itself and compile it
> from scratch.
>
> My own suggestion varies from that however.  The gcc which is current
> is not the same as the gcc which came with YDL 4.1.  To remain
> consistent with YDL 4.1, it may be better to reinstall all of YDL 4.1
> (or just those packages of YDL 4.1 which you actually use).  You
> still have the YDL 4.1 CDs somewhere.  Of course, you could also
> reinstall the gcc which came with YDL 4.1 using rpm to pull the
> appropriate packages from the CDs but it just may be simpler to do a
> full reinstall.
>
> At least, then you'll know absolutely that you have a complete
> working set of YDL 4.1.
>
> Best wishes.... Derick.
>
> On Feb 7, 2007, at 4:33 PM, Richardson, Joshua A. wrote:
>
>> Manually download and install the rpm?
>>
>> Joshua A. Richardson
>> (703) 272-1761 -- Office
>> (540) 383-9093 - Cell
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: yellowdog-general-bounces at lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
>> [mailto:yellowdog-general-bounces at lists.terrasoftsolutions.com] On
>> Behalf Of Vincent Li
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 4:31 PM
>> To: Discussion List for General Yellow Dog Linux User Topics
>> Subject: Re: [ydl-gen] [SPAM] Re: My gcc3.4.4 installation screwed
>> up on
>> ydl4.1
>>
>> On Wed, 7 Feb 2007, Richardson, Joshua A. wrote:
>>
>>> Have you tried downloading and recompiling gcc from source?
>>>
>>> Joshua A. Richardson
>>> (703) 272-1761 -- Office
>>> (540) 383-9093 - Cell
>>>
>>
>> Yes, I just downloaded gcc source and recompile gcc, I got the same
>> error,
>> because my default gcc3.4.4 never work again. any idea to restore my
>> default gcc to working state :), I don't want to reinstall OS
>> because I
>> already got too much work on this mache.
>>
>>
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