From kstaats at us.fixstars.com Sun May 3 16:58:48 2009 From: kstaats at us.fixstars.com (Kai Staats) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 15:58:48 -0700 Subject: [ydl-gen] Looking for advice. In-Reply-To: <20090221022014.GA5474@h42148.pems.adfa.edu.au> References: <7F2C8B51-7E63-4078-9849-5E665E78866E@phys.washington.edu> <20090221022014.GA5474@h42148.pems.adfa.edu.au> Message-ID: <200905031658.48572.kstaats@us.fixstars.com> All, > With my late 2005 iBook it has not been since much later > kernels and Xorg releases that accelerated X11 has been available. In > terms of YDL, the 6.0 release had a limited accelerated X11, but the > big improvement came with YDL6.1 with a self-compiled kernel > (linux-2.6.27.8 again). Sorry for the terribly long delay. A very simple HOWTO now exists to gain 2D accel video with some Apple PowerPC products: http://us.fixstars.com/support/solutions/ydl_6.x/2D_acceleration.shtml Sincerely, kai From duchtel at gmail.com Mon May 4 06:17:33 2009 From: duchtel at gmail.com (Joe Duchtel) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 08:17:33 -0400 Subject: [ydl-gen] Remote Power Control for G5 w/ YDL ... Message-ID: Hello - We have several G5s running YDL in a server room. I would like to be able to turn them on and off remotely as the server room usually cannot be entered. Turning them off remotely is fairly easy but turning them back on is the tricky part as they do not seem to support BOOT-ON-LAN. I found power strips that can be controlled via Ethernet but I cannot figure out how to configure the G5s so they power up when (re-)connected to power. I read that there is a way to change the settings using the Mac O/S but not via nvram (auto-boot). The biggest problem is that these are re-furbished G5s with YDL installed on them and there was no Mac O/S media that came with them. Has anybody been able to set up their G5 Xserve to power on upon power connection using nvram? Thanks! Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.fixstars.com/pipermail/yellowdog-general/attachments/20090504/5a487959/attachment.html From kstaats at us.fixstars.com Mon May 4 10:15:15 2009 From: kstaats at us.fixstars.com (Kai Staats) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 10:15:15 -0600 Subject: [ydl-gen] Remote Power Control for G5 w/ YDL ... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200905041015.15785.kstaats@us.fixstars.com> Joe, > We have several G5s running YDL in a server room. I would like to be able > to turn them on and off remotely as the server room usually cannot be > entered. Turning them off remotely is fairly easy but turning them back on > is the tricky part as they do not seem to support BOOT-ON-LAN. I found > power strips that can be controlled via Ethernet but I cannot figure out > how to configure the G5s so they power up when (re-)connected to power. > > I read that there is a way to change the settings using the Mac O/S but not > via nvram (auto-boot). The biggest problem is that these are re-furbished > G5s with YDL installed on them and there was no Mac O/S media that came > with them. > > Has anybody been able to set up their G5 Xserve to power on upon power > connection using nvram? I believe there is a firmware setting for auto-power-on with power, but I need to do some digging --OWEN, do you remember, can this be done? kai From hal.martin at gmail.com Mon May 4 19:00:05 2009 From: hal.martin at gmail.com (Hal Martin) Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 21:00:05 -0400 Subject: [ydl-gen] Remote Power Control for G5 w/ YDL ... In-Reply-To: <200905041015.15785.kstaats@us.fixstars.com> References: <200905041015.15785.kstaats@us.fixstars.com> Message-ID: <49FF8F95.3000406@gmail.com> Not to steal this thread, but I thought this question looked familiar! The same question was asked back in June 2008: Pulled from a discussion about how to do the same on a PowerMac G4. I don't own an XServe, so your mileage may vary, but it should work. echo 'server_mode=1' > /proc/pmu/options -Hal Kai Staats wrote: > Joe, > > >> We have several G5s running YDL in a server room. I would like to be able >> to turn them on and off remotely as the server room usually cannot be >> entered. Turning them off remotely is fairly easy but turning them back on >> is the tricky part as they do not seem to support BOOT-ON-LAN. I found >> power strips that can be controlled via Ethernet but I cannot figure out >> how to configure the G5s so they power up when (re-)connected to power. >> >> I read that there is a way to change the settings using the Mac O/S but not >> via nvram (auto-boot). The biggest problem is that these are re-furbished >> G5s with YDL installed on them and there was no Mac O/S media that came >> with them. >> >> Has anybody been able to set up their G5 Xserve to power on upon power >> connection using nvram? >> > > I believe there is a firmware setting for auto-power-on with power, but I need > to do some digging --OWEN, do you remember, can this be done? > > kai > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-general mailing list > yellowdog-general at lists.fixstars.com > http://lists.fixstars.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general > HINT: to Google archives, try ' site:us.fixstars.com' > > From corey.abshire at gmail.com Mon May 4 21:25:11 2009 From: corey.abshire at gmail.com (Corey) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 23:25:11 -0400 Subject: [ydl-gen] switching to other themes crashes e17 Message-ID: <4e0920a30905042025k5d3cc21cx7048c45c7ab5d537@mail.gmail.com> Hi all. I'm having an issue switching e17 themes in YDL 6.1 on an Apple Powerbook G4. When I try to switch to any theme I've downloaded off of http://exchange.enlightenment.org/ it crashes enlightenment and restarts in the default theme, or simply reverts back to the default theme. I have not been able to switch to any theme I've downloaded from the site. I'm following what I believe is the correct process for installing the theme: 1. Download the theme into ~/.e/e/themes/ 2. Open up the themes configuration. 3. Click the Personal button. 4. Click the theme. 5. Click the OK button. As soon as I click OK button e17 either crashes with the "Enlightenment Error - This is very bad... (f1) Recover..." error message, and lets me restart with the previous theme I used, or, it does not give me an error message and simply reverts back to that previous theme. Here is a list of the names of some of the themes I've tried: 1. 230z_016_999_043_1.edj 2. A-illume-Blue.edj 3. detour-0.7.4_e17.edj 4. grunge.edj 5. pce17os_new_h.edj 6. simply-white-0.9.5.edj I read through a variety of posts and the best I can come up with is that e17 is very picky about versions and that perhaps the .edj files that are provided on the exchange site are intended only for the very latest version of e17. According to the About dialog, I'm running 0.16.999.040. It seems the latest snapshot on the enlightenment site is 0.16.999.060. I read through a few sets of instructions for how to compile e17 and install from source but it seems rather laborious, and wondered if there is some easier way some of you more experienced users might be aware of that you could point me to. As far as I can tell, all the updates from the default repositories have been installed at this point. I'm not doing anything tricky I can think of. Its a relatively new installation, + Apple wireless working. Anyone else have similar issues switching themes on the version of e17 that comes with YDL6.1? If so, have you figured out a way around it or have some advice on how to get it working. Is there an easy way to stay on the most recent version of e17 under YDL6.1? Thanks, Corey From hal.martin at gmail.com Tue May 5 04:47:51 2009 From: hal.martin at gmail.com (Hal Martin) Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 06:47:51 -0400 Subject: [ydl-gen] switching to other themes crashes e17 In-Reply-To: <4e0920a30905042025k5d3cc21cx7048c45c7ab5d537@mail.gmail.com> References: <4e0920a30905042025k5d3cc21cx7048c45c7ab5d537@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A001957.6080609@gmail.com> Corey wrote: > Hi all. > > I'm having an issue switching e17 themes in YDL 6.1 on an Apple Powerbook G4. > > When I try to switch to any theme I've downloaded off of > http://exchange.enlightenment.org/ it crashes enlightenment and > restarts in the default theme, or simply reverts back to the default > theme. I have not been able to switch to any theme I've downloaded > from the site. I'm following what I believe is the correct process for > installing the theme: > > 1. Download the theme into ~/.e/e/themes/ > 2. Open up the themes configuration. > 3. Click the Personal button. > 4. Click the theme. > 5. Click the OK button. > Yup, that's the way to add themes in DR17. > As soon as I click OK button e17 either crashes with the > "Enlightenment Error - This is very bad... (f1) Recover..." error > message, and lets me restart with the previous theme I used, or, it > does not give me an error message and simply reverts back to that > previous theme. > Yes, if I recall my beta testing of YDL 6.1 correctly, downloaded themes do not work on the YDL builds of Enlightenment. > Here is a list of the names of some of the themes I've tried: > > 1. 230z_016_999_043_1.edj > 2. A-illume-Blue.edj > 3. detour-0.7.4_e17.edj > 4. grunge.edj > 5. pce17os_new_h.edj > 6. simply-white-0.9.5.edj > > I read through a variety of posts and the best I can come up with is > that e17 is very picky about versions and that perhaps the .edj files > that are provided on the exchange site are intended only for the very > latest version of e17. According to the About dialog, I'm running > 0.16.999.040. It seems the latest snapshot on the enlightenment site > is 0.16.999.060. > Even the snapshots on their website are, at times, out of date. If you're looking for the newest, shiniest, version of DR17 (beware of bugs!) I would suggest using their SVN repository. > I read through a few sets of instructions for how to compile e17 and > install from source but it seems rather laborious, and wondered if > there is some easier way some of you more experienced users might be > aware of that you could point me to. > On Gentoo, which I'm running on my desktop (although granted my desktop is an x86_64 machine) there is a script called 'e17update' that basically handles all the svn checkouts and building of the libraries for DR17. It is, however, rather tied to emerge and layman, so it may not be of much use to you. > As far as I can tell, all the updates from the default repositories > have been installed at this point. I'm not doing anything tricky I can > think of. Its a relatively new installation, + Apple wireless working. > > Anyone else have similar issues switching themes on the version of e17 > that comes with YDL6.1? > Yes, I encountered this problem during my beta testing of YDL 6.1. If I recall correctly, it's a known issue that I'm not sure was ever pinpointed or resolved. > If so, have you figured out a way around it or have some advice on how > to get it working. > > Is there an easy way to stay on the most recent version of e17 under YDL6.1? > The easiest way is to use their svn repository and build by hand. As tedious as that sounds, in my opinion it's not that much work. I'm sure someone who is more adept at bash scripting then myself could, or has, written a script to automatically build enlightenment, similar to e17update. -Hal > Thanks, > Corey > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-general mailing list > yellowdog-general at lists.fixstars.com > http://lists.fixstars.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general > HINT: to Google archives, try ' site:us.fixstars.com' > > From corey.abshire at gmail.com Tue May 5 07:59:50 2009 From: corey.abshire at gmail.com (Corey) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 09:59:50 -0400 Subject: [ydl-gen] switching to other themes crashes e17 In-Reply-To: <4A001957.6080609@gmail.com> References: <4e0920a30905042025k5d3cc21cx7048c45c7ab5d537@mail.gmail.com> <4A001957.6080609@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4e0920a30905050659g7315f367v1aa83d32b841a918@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 6:47 AM, Hal Martin wrote: > Corey wrote: >> Hi all. >> >> I'm having an issue switching e17 themes in YDL 6.1 on an Apple Powerbook G4. >> >> When I try to switch to any theme I've downloaded off of >> http://exchange.enlightenment.org/ it crashes enlightenment and >> restarts in the default theme, or simply reverts back to the default >> theme. I have not been able to switch to any theme I've downloaded >> from the site. I'm following what I believe is the correct process for >> installing the theme: >> >> 1. Download the theme into ~/.e/e/themes/ >> 2. Open up the themes configuration. >> 3. Click the Personal button. >> 4. Click the theme. >> 5. Click the OK button. >> > Yup, that's the way to add themes in DR17. >> As soon as I click OK button e17 either crashes with the >> "Enlightenment Error - This is very bad... (f1) Recover..." error >> message, and lets me restart with the previous theme I used, or, it >> does not give me an error message and simply reverts back to that >> previous theme. >> > Yes, if I recall my beta testing of YDL 6.1 correctly, downloaded themes > do not work on the YDL builds of Enlightenment. >> Here is a list of the names of some of the themes I've tried: >> >> 1. 230z_016_999_043_1.edj >> 2. A-illume-Blue.edj >> 3. detour-0.7.4_e17.edj >> 4. grunge.edj >> 5. pce17os_new_h.edj >> 6. simply-white-0.9.5.edj >> >> I read through a variety of posts and the best I can come up with is >> that e17 is very picky about versions and that perhaps the .edj files >> that are provided on the exchange site are intended only for the very >> latest version of e17. According to the About dialog, I'm running >> 0.16.999.040. It seems the latest snapshot on the enlightenment site >> is 0.16.999.060. >> > Even the snapshots on their website are, at times, out of date. If > you're looking for the newest, shiniest, version of DR17 (beware of > bugs!) I would suggest using their SVN repository. >> I read through a few sets of instructions for how to compile e17 and >> install from source but it seems rather laborious, and wondered if >> there is some easier way some of you more experienced users might be >> aware of that you could point me to. >> > On Gentoo, which I'm running on my desktop (although granted my desktop > is an x86_64 machine) there is a script called 'e17update' that > basically handles all the svn checkouts and building of the libraries > for DR17. It is, however, rather tied to emerge and layman, so it may > not be of much use to you. >> As far as I can tell, all the updates from the default repositories >> have been installed at this point. I'm not doing anything tricky I can >> think of. Its a relatively new installation, + Apple wireless working. >> >> Anyone else have similar issues switching themes on the version of e17 >> that comes with YDL6.1? >> > Yes, I encountered this problem during my beta testing of YDL 6.1. If I > recall correctly, it's a known issue that I'm not sure was ever > pinpointed or resolved. >> If so, have you figured out a way around it or have some advice on how >> to get it working. >> >> Is there an easy way to stay on the most recent version of e17 under YDL6.1? >> > The easiest way is to use their svn repository and build by hand. As > tedious as that sounds, in my opinion it's not that much work. I'm sure > someone who is more adept at bash scripting then myself could, or has, > written a script to automatically build enlightenment, similar to e17update. > > -Hal Ok, I'll go ahead and finish building by hand. Thanks! - Corey >> Thanks, >> Corey >> _______________________________________________ >> yellowdog-general mailing list >> yellowdog-general at lists.fixstars.com >> http://lists.fixstars.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general >> HINT: to Google archives, try ?' site:us.fixstars.com' >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-general mailing list > yellowdog-general at lists.fixstars.com > http://lists.fixstars.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general > HINT: to Google archives, try ?' site:us.fixstars.com' > From duchtel at gmail.com Wed May 6 12:27:02 2009 From: duchtel at gmail.com (Joe Duchtel) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 14:27:02 -0400 Subject: [ydl-gen] Remote Power Control for G5 w/ YDL ... In-Reply-To: <49FF8F95.3000406@gmail.com> References: <200905041015.15785.kstaats@us.fixstars.com> <49FF8F95.3000406@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello - This seems to be working if I interrupt power while it is running (e.g. login screen) and then reconnect it. It is not working if I shut it down properly from the login screen. Any ideas? Thanks! Joe On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Hal Martin wrote: > Not to steal this thread, but I thought this question looked familiar! > > The same question was asked back in June 2008: > > Pulled from a discussion about how to do the same on a PowerMac G4. I > don't own an XServe, so your mileage may vary, but it should work. > > echo 'server_mode=1' > /proc/pmu/options > > -Hal > > Kai Staats wrote: > > Joe, > > > > > >> We have several G5s running YDL in a server room. I would like to be > able > >> to turn them on and off remotely as the server room usually cannot be > >> entered. Turning them off remotely is fairly easy but turning them back > on > >> is the tricky part as they do not seem to support BOOT-ON-LAN. I found > >> power strips that can be controlled via Ethernet but I cannot figure out > >> how to configure the G5s so they power up when (re-)connected to power. > >> > >> I read that there is a way to change the settings using the Mac O/S but > not > >> via nvram (auto-boot). The biggest problem is that these are > re-furbished > >> G5s with YDL installed on them and there was no Mac O/S media that came > >> with them. > >> > >> Has anybody been able to set up their G5 Xserve to power on upon power > >> connection using nvram? > >> > > > > I believe there is a firmware setting for auto-power-on with power, but I > need > > to do some digging --OWEN, do you remember, can this be done? > > > > kai > > _______________________________________________ > > yellowdog-general mailing list > > yellowdog-general at lists.fixstars.com > > http://lists.fixstars.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general > > HINT: to Google archives, try ' site:us.fixstars.com' > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-general mailing list > yellowdog-general at lists.fixstars.com > http://lists.fixstars.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general > HINT: to Google archives, try ' site:us.fixstars.com' > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.fixstars.com/pipermail/yellowdog-general/attachments/20090506/0792dc42/attachment.html From kstaats at us.fixstars.com Wed May 6 12:31:33 2009 From: kstaats at us.fixstars.com (Kai Staats) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 12:31:33 -0600 Subject: [ydl-gen] Remote Power Control for G5 w/ YDL ... In-Reply-To: References: <49FF8F95.3000406@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905061231.33429.kstaats@us.fixstars.com> Joe, > This seems to be working if I interrupt power while it is running (e.g. > login screen) and then reconnect it. It is not working if I shut it down > properly from the login screen. > > Any ideas? If you shut down power properly, then you would require wake-on-lan to power-on remotely, which I do not believe was supported in Apple G4/G5 systems. If I am wrong, please correct me Owen (or whomever). kai From duchtel at gmail.com Wed May 6 12:36:08 2009 From: duchtel at gmail.com (Joe Duchtel) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 14:36:08 -0400 Subject: [ydl-gen] Remote Power Control for G5 w/ YDL ... In-Reply-To: <200905061231.33429.kstaats@us.fixstars.com> References: <49FF8F95.3000406@gmail.com> <200905061231.33429.kstaats@us.fixstars.com> Message-ID: That's what I was afraid of! I have been using "magic packages" to do this for (even older) PCs for a while and have yet to find one that does not support it. Maybe there is another "magic" trick? Thanks! Joe On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Kai Staats wrote: > Joe, > > > This seems to be working if I interrupt power while it is running (e.g. > > login screen) and then reconnect it. It is not working if I shut it down > > properly from the login screen. > > > > Any ideas? > > If you shut down power properly, then you would require wake-on-lan to > power-on remotely, which I do not believe was supported in Apple G4/G5 > systems. > > If I am wrong, please correct me Owen (or whomever). > > kai > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-general mailing list > yellowdog-general at lists.fixstars.com > http://lists.fixstars.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general > HINT: to Google archives, try ' site:us.fixstars.com' > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.fixstars.com/pipermail/yellowdog-general/attachments/20090506/a5e18591/attachment.html From hal.martin at gmail.com Wed May 6 15:22:00 2009 From: hal.martin at gmail.com (Hal Martin) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 17:22:00 -0400 Subject: [ydl-gen] Remote Power Control for G5 w/ YDL ... In-Reply-To: References: <49FF8F95.3000406@gmail.com> <200905061231.33429.kstaats@us.fixstars.com> Message-ID: <4A01FF78.4020307@gmail.com> Joe Duchtel wrote: > That's what I was afraid of! I have been using "magic packages" to > do this for (even older) PCs for a while and have yet to find one that > does not support it. > > Maybe there is another "magic" trick? A little searching around the Apple website yields this document: http://support.apple.com/kb/TA20741?viewlocale=en_US *"Wake for network administrative access"* Also known as "Wake-on-LAN," this allows network administrators and certain applications to wake the computer from sleep by sending it a special type of network packet. Available on these computers: * All Macintosh computers produced in 2003 * Power Mac G5 * Power Mac G4 (Gigabit Ethernet) or later * Power Mac G4 Cube (all models) * PowerBook (FireWire) or later * iBook (all models) * iMac (Early 2001) or later It appears that if your G5 should have support for WoL. Surprisingly even my PowerMac G4 'Mystic' supposedly supports it. As for powering up the machine using the WoL "magic" packet in linux, it appears that a utility called ethtool can throw a flag to your NIC to enable WoL. More info on that here: http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202174 However when I use wakeonlan on my PowerMac G4, with the option to wake from LAN set in System Preferences, it does not power on or wake from sleep. This may or may not be due to the fact that the original power supply died and has been replaced by an ATX one. At this point in time I cannot find any nvram command to set this to work indefinitely. I'm also hearing mixed reports of success/failure on Macs. It seems that waking from sleep using WoL works 100% of the time, but your mileage will vary when it comes to actually powering on the machine from the off-state. Best of luck. -Hal > > Thanks! > Joe > > > > On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Kai Staats > wrote: > > Joe, > > > This seems to be working if I interrupt power while it is > running (e.g. > > login screen) and then reconnect it. It is not working if I > shut it down > > properly from the login screen. > > > > Any ideas? > > If you shut down power properly, then you would require wake-on-lan to > power-on remotely, which I do not believe was supported in Apple G4/G5 > systems. > > If I am wrong, please correct me Owen (or whomever). > > kai > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-general mailing list > yellowdog-general at lists.fixstars.com > > http://lists.fixstars.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general > HINT: to Google archives, try ' site:us.fixstars.com > ' > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-general mailing list > yellowdog-general at lists.fixstars.com > http://lists.fixstars.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general > HINT: to Google archives, try ' site:us.fixstars.com' From significant.bit at gmail.com Wed May 6 18:12:17 2009 From: significant.bit at gmail.com (Mike Erwin) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 19:12:17 -0500 Subject: [ydl-gen] Radeon X850 support? Message-ID: Hi all, I'm in the middle of hot-rodding a Quicksilver G4, and one of its components is a Radeon X850. It's hard to miss the warning about YDL's lack of support for X800 on the G5s, and I must assume this extends to the rare X850. YDL runs great on the system so far, but only with the stock GeForce2 installed. Is the problem on the firmware side or the Linux driver side? In either case I'm willing to work on it, as there's some firmware work still needed for Mac OS (the card was PC retail). I'm going to ridiculous lengths to get this beast walking, and would appreciate any hints, encouragement, technical details, or anything from my fellow yellow dogs. Looking forward to the next Cell hack-a-thon, Mike Erwin musician, naturalist, pixel pusher, hacker extraordinaire From hal.martin at gmail.com Wed May 6 18:30:38 2009 From: hal.martin at gmail.com (Hal Martin) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 20:30:38 -0400 Subject: [ydl-gen] Radeon X850 support? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A022BAE.3070607@gmail.com> Mike Erwin wrote: > Hi all, > I'm in the middle of hot-rodding a Quicksilver G4, and one of its > components is a Radeon X850. It's hard to miss the warning about YDL's > lack of support for X800 on the G5s, and I must assume this extends to > the rare X850. > > YDL runs great on the system so far, but only with the stock GeForce2 installed. > > Is the problem on the firmware side or the Linux driver side? In > either case I'm willing to work on it, as there's some firmware work > still needed for Mac OS (the card was PC retail). I'm going to > ridiculous lengths to get this beast walking, and would appreciate any > hints, encouragement, technical details, or anything from my fellow > yellow dogs. > I'm assuming (and this is an assumption) that you checked themacelite wiki before you purchased/acquired the card to verify that there is in fact a working PPC ROM for that model? http://themacelite.wikidot.com/wikidownloads2 If the ROM for the X850XT from themacelite doesn't work, unless you've got another one hidden somewhere that you know works, YDL compatibilities will be far from the forefront in terms of hurdles to overcome in getting that card working with the PowerMac and YDL. As for specific YDL issues with the X800 series, I defer to the Kai and Owen and any other list members that have experience with those cards for advice. -Hal > Looking forward to the next Cell hack-a-thon, > Mike Erwin > musician, naturalist, pixel pusher, hacker extraordinaire > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-general mailing list > yellowdog-general at lists.fixstars.com > http://lists.fixstars.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general > HINT: to Google archives, try ' site:us.fixstars.com' > > From kstaats at us.fixstars.com Thu May 7 08:33:54 2009 From: kstaats at us.fixstars.com (Kai Staats) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 08:33:54 -0600 Subject: [ydl-gen] Radeon X850 support? In-Reply-To: <4A022BAE.3070607@gmail.com> References: <4A022BAE.3070607@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905070833.54225.kstaats@us.fixstars.com> > I'm assuming (and this is an assumption) that you checked themacelite > wiki before you purchased/acquired the card to verify that there is in > fact a working PPC ROM for that model? > > http://themacelite.wikidot.com/wikidownloads2 > > If the ROM for the X850XT from themacelite doesn't work, unless you've > got another one hidden somewhere that you know works, YDL > compatibilities will be far from the forefront in terms of hurdles to > overcome in getting that card working with the PowerMac and YDL. > > As for specific YDL issues with the X800 series, I defer to the Kai and > Owen and any other list members that have experience with those cards > for advice. Graphics cards have been the bane of Linux on PPC from day one. It is entirely about the driver, and unless someone has a lot of free time, reverse engineering a solution has not historically been a realistic approach. kai From significant.bit at gmail.com Thu May 7 13:28:25 2009 From: significant.bit at gmail.com (Mike Erwin) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 14:28:25 -0500 Subject: [ydl-gen] Radeon X850 support? In-Reply-To: <4A022BAE.3070607@gmail.com> References: <4A022BAE.3070607@gmail.com> Message-ID: > I'm assuming (and this is an assumption) that you checked themacelite > wiki before you purchased/acquired the card to verify that there is in > fact a working PPC ROM for that model? Their resources were very valuable when selecting a card. Was going for a 9800 before learning about its big brother. Went out on a limb and got the unsupported card with full knowledge that this would be difficult! So far, there is no (un)official X850 PowerPC firmware from themacelite that fits in the more common 64K ROM chip, but the existence of drivers on the Mac OS X side (once a working ROM is in place) and occasional reports of flashed cards working in "the wild" are encouraging. > If the ROM for the X850XT from themacelite doesn't work, unless you've > got another one hidden somewhere that you know works, YDL > compatibilities will be far from the forefront in terms of hurdles to > overcome in getting that card working with the PowerMac and YDL. No, I don't yet have a working ROM image, and the few individuals claiming theirs work haven't gotten back to me, but it's early. Working through themacelite's step-by-step reduction method from latest 128K ROM still left me with a black screen. Catching even a halfway-working ROM image would be a great first step, but I aim for full support (both outputs, proper fan control, etc.). At this point I'm looking for more information about creating fresh firmware instead of hacking chunks out of the original one. Who wrote the bits for the PowerStation's graphics card? And is SLOF very different from the PowerMac OF? So yes, hurdles aplenty! Mike Erwin musician, naturalist, pixel pusher, hacker extraordinaire From significant.bit at gmail.com Thu May 7 13:42:57 2009 From: significant.bit at gmail.com (Mike Erwin) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 14:42:57 -0500 Subject: [ydl-gen] Radeon X850 support? In-Reply-To: <200905070833.54225.kstaats@us.fixstars.com> References: <4A022BAE.3070607@gmail.com> <200905070833.54225.kstaats@us.fixstars.com> Message-ID: > Graphics cards have been the bane of Linux on PPC from day one. It is entirely > about the driver, and unless someone has a lot of free time, reverse > engineering a solution has not historically been a realistic approach. > > kai Someone at AMD/ATI pointed me to some of the work already done by the x86 Linux crowd. I'm glad others did have the free time to work some of these things out, and I have just enough to take it through the last lap (long commute=plenty of think time). Firmware first, of course. Mike Erwin musician, naturalist, pixel pusher, hacker extraordinaire From duchtel at gmail.com Mon May 11 04:00:00 2009 From: duchtel at gmail.com (Joe Duchtel) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 06:00:00 -0400 Subject: [ydl-gen] Remote Power Control for G5 w/ YDL ... In-Reply-To: <4A01FF78.4020307@gmail.com> References: <49FF8F95.3000406@gmail.com> <200905061231.33429.kstaats@us.fixstars.com> <4A01FF78.4020307@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello - I checked for the ethtool but it is not installed. I was able to find the *.rpm for YDL 5-1 (ethtool 3-1) and YDL 6-1 (ethtool 5-1) but not for the YDL 4.0.1 that I have installed. Is there any place I can find the version for that or will a newer one work? Thanks! Joe On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Hal Martin wrote: > Joe Duchtel wrote: > > That's what I was afraid of! I have been using "magic packages" to > > do this for (even older) PCs for a while and have yet to find one that > > does not support it. > > > > Maybe there is another "magic" trick? > A little searching around the Apple website yields this document: > > http://support.apple.com/kb/TA20741?viewlocale=en_US > > *"Wake for network administrative access"* > > Also known as "Wake-on-LAN," this allows network administrators and > certain applications to wake the computer from sleep by sending it a > special type of network packet. > > Available on these computers: > > * All Macintosh computers produced in 2003 > * Power Mac G5 > * Power Mac G4 (Gigabit Ethernet) or later > * Power Mac G4 Cube (all models) > * PowerBook (FireWire) or later > * iBook (all models) > * iMac (Early 2001) or later > > > It appears that if your G5 should have support for WoL. Surprisingly > even my PowerMac G4 'Mystic' supposedly supports it. > > As for powering up the machine using the WoL "magic" packet in linux, it > appears that a utility called ethtool can throw a flag to your NIC to > enable WoL. More info on that here: > > http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202174 > > However when I use wakeonlan on my PowerMac G4, with the option to wake > from LAN set in System Preferences, it does not power on or wake from > sleep. This may or may not be due to the fact that the original power > supply died and has been replaced by an ATX one. > > At this point in time I cannot find any nvram command to set this to > work indefinitely. I'm also hearing mixed reports of success/failure on > Macs. It seems that waking from sleep using WoL works 100% of the time, > but your mileage will vary when it comes to actually powering on the > machine from the off-state. > > Best of luck. > > -Hal > > > > Thanks! > > Joe > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Kai Staats > > wrote: > > > > Joe, > > > > > This seems to be working if I interrupt power while it is > > running (e.g. > > > login screen) and then reconnect it. It is not working if I > > shut it down > > > properly from the login screen. > > > > > > Any ideas? > > > > If you shut down power properly, then you would require wake-on-lan > to > > power-on remotely, which I do not believe was supported in Apple > G4/G5 > > systems. > > > > If I am wrong, please correct me Owen (or whomever). > > > > kai > > _______________________________________________ > > yellowdog-general mailing list > > yellowdog-general at lists.fixstars.com > > > > http://lists.fixstars.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general > > HINT: to Google archives, try ' site:us.fixstars.com > > ' > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > yellowdog-general mailing list > > yellowdog-general at lists.fixstars.com > > http://lists.fixstars.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general > > HINT: to Google archives, try ' site:us.fixstars.com' > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-general mailing list > yellowdog-general at lists.fixstars.com > http://lists.fixstars.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general > HINT: to Google archives, try ' site:us.fixstars.com' > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.fixstars.com/pipermail/yellowdog-general/attachments/20090511/8f1a4228/attachment.html From zhangweiwu at realss.com Mon May 11 06:55:21 2009 From: zhangweiwu at realss.com (Zhang Weiwu) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 20:55:21 +0800 Subject: [ydl-gen] does yellow dog linux has the packages I need? Message-ID: <4A082039.7090206@realss.com> Hello. I am considering switching to yellow dog linux with my iBook G4. My choice of Linux distribution had always been heavily depend on what packages are in official package repository, because I am a stupid user who do not know how to (and don't want to) fight on command line to configure & build my own software from source. I did not find where to search package repository online, so here is my list of software I use daily and can you kindly let me know how can I find if they are pre-packaged on YDL? Sorry for having Chinese explanation of the software after its name. You can simply ignore them. * Chinese fonts: Droid Sans, Wenquanyi and CJK Unifonts * sunbird????Evolution????ical? * agave?? * firefox???firebug????) * gnucash???? * gftp??? * pulseaudio-utils?applet???????????????? * vlc????DVD * inkscape??? * gnumeric?abiword???????????????????? * stardic?? * jedit???????? * rapidsvn * Firegpg???gpa/seahorse??? * unison??????????? * kompozer??? * freemind * gimp?? * eiphany???????????????? * amule-utils-gui???? * ekiga?? * pidgin???jabber? * grisbi???home bank???????? * gnome-ppp??CDMA???? * Opera??? * f-spot From hsyl20 at gmail.com Tue May 12 00:54:51 2009 From: hsyl20 at gmail.com (Sylvain HENRY) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 08:54:51 +0200 Subject: [ydl-gen] Upgrading YDL on PS3 cluster Message-ID: <86b8670d0905112354p7130e8b7u257b6fab05bb9604@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I'm in internship in a company which has bought a cluster (composed of 8 PS3 nodes and a G5 head all running YDL 6.0) to Terrasoft a few months ago. I would like to upgrade YDL to YDL 6.1 on PS3 nodes. I used: yum --installroot=/var/lib/yhpc/images/myimage update and it worked. But when I reload the image and reboot, the old Linux kernel (2.6.22) is still used. Does anyone know how to switch to the newly installed kernel (the one in /boot/)? Thanks! Sylvain From kstaats at us.fixstars.com Tue May 12 12:01:19 2009 From: kstaats at us.fixstars.com (Kai Staats) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 12:01:19 -0600 Subject: [ydl-gen] does yellow dog linux has the packages I need? In-Reply-To: <4A082039.7090206@realss.com> References: <4A082039.7090206@realss.com> Message-ID: <200905121201.19641.kstaats@us.fixstars.com> Zhang Weiwu, > Hello. I am considering switching to yellow dog linux with my iBook G4. > My choice of Linux distribution had always been heavily depend on what > packages are in official package repository, because I am a stupid user > who do not know how to (and don't want to) fight on command line to > configure & build my own software from source. I did not find where to > search package repository online, so here is my list of software I use > daily and can you kindly let me know how can I find if they are > pre-packaged on YDL? Here is a list of the default, installed apps: http://us.fixstars.com/products/ydl/installed.shtml Here is a search tool for all apps available with the distribution: http://us.fixstars.com/products/ydl/included/ Sincerely, kai > Sorry for having Chinese explanation of the software after its name. You > can simply ignore them. > > * Chinese fonts: Droid Sans, Wenquanyi and CJK Unifonts > * sunbird????Evolution????ical? > * agave?? > * firefox???firebug????) > * gnucash???? > * gftp??? > * pulseaudio-utils?applet???????????????? > * vlc????DVD > * inkscape??? > * gnumeric?abiword???????????????????? > * stardic?? > * jedit???????? > * rapidsvn > * Firegpg???gpa/seahorse??? > * unison??????????? > * kompozer??? > * freemind > * gimp?? > * eiphany???????????????? > * amule-utils-gui???? > * ekiga?? > * pidgin???jabber? > * grisbi???home bank???????? > * gnome-ppp??CDMA???? > * Opera??? > * f-spot > > > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-general mailing list > yellowdog-general at lists.fixstars.com > http://lists.fixstars.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general > HINT: to Google archives, try ' site:us.fixstars.com' From kstaats at us.fixstars.com Tue May 12 17:33:27 2009 From: kstaats at us.fixstars.com (Kai Staats) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 17:33:27 -0600 Subject: [ydl-gen] Upgrading YDL on PS3 cluster In-Reply-To: <86b8670d0905112354p7130e8b7u257b6fab05bb9604@mail.gmail.com> References: <86b8670d0905112354p7130e8b7u257b6fab05bb9604@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905121733.27602.kstaats@us.fixstars.com> Sylvain, > I'm in internship in a company which has bought a cluster (composed of > 8 PS3 nodes and a G5 head all running YDL 6.0) to Terrasoft a few months > ago. > > I would like to upgrade YDL to YDL 6.1 on PS3 nodes. I used: > yum --installroot=/var/lib/yhpc/images/myimage update > and it worked. But when I reload the image and reboot, the old Linux > kernel (2.6.22) is still used. Did you reset the boot loader to use the newer kernel? Are you manually using YDL for each PS3, or using Y-HPC to build your cluster? Sincerely, kai From zhangweiwu at realss.com Tue May 12 20:22:05 2009 From: zhangweiwu at realss.com (Zhang Weiwu) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 10:22:05 +0800 Subject: [ydl-gen] does yellow dog linux has the packages I need? In-Reply-To: <200905121201.19641.kstaats@us.fixstars.com> References: <4A082039.7090206@realss.com> <200905121201.19641.kstaats@us.fixstars.com> Message-ID: <4A0A2ECD.30203@realss.com> Kai Staats wrote: > Here is a list of the default, installed apps: > http://us.fixstars.com/products/ydl/installed.shtml > > Here is a search tool for all apps available with the distribution: > http://us.fixstars.com/products/ydl/included/ > It says "All Applications Included on the DVD". Is that equal to "all apps available with the distribution"? I mean, even including the packages available on official package repository on the Inernet? I have to ask this becaues "All Applications Included on the DVD" has a lot of packages missing that I use daily. e.g. most software I keep using for managing my web design projects are missing: freemind (manage projects), jedit (for HTML/CSS), f-spot (for manage stoke photos), unison (for sync websites), tomboy (for taking notes in case of customer telephone call). That could be a barrier to use YDL if I had to compile these myself or deal with RPM offered by other site and fight dependency. From rarob at travelinglightfarm.net Wed May 13 04:25:28 2009 From: rarob at travelinglightfarm.net (Rob Sanders) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 06:25:28 -0400 Subject: [ydl-gen] does yellow dog linux has the packages I need? In-Reply-To: <4A0A2ECD.30203@realss.com> References: <4A082039.7090206@realss.com> <200905121201.19641.kstaats@us.fixstars.com> <4A0A2ECD.30203@realss.com> Message-ID: <45487EE1-D9FE-416B-A8F3-21990B37B70E@travelinglightfarm.net> On May 12, 2009, at 10:22 PM, Zhang Weiwu wrote: > Kai Staats wrote: >> Here is a list of the default, installed apps: >> http://us.fixstars.com/products/ydl/installed.shtml >> >> Here is a search tool for all apps available with the distribution: >> http://us.fixstars.com/products/ydl/included/ >> > It says "All Applications Included on the DVD". Is that equal to "all > apps available with the distribution"? I mean, even including the > packages available on official package repository on the Inernet? > > I have to ask this becaues "All Applications Included on the DVD" > has a > lot of packages missing that I use daily. e.g. most software I keep > using for managing my web design projects are missing: freemind > (manage > projects), jedit (for HTML/CSS), f-spot (for manage stoke photos), > unison (for sync websites), tomboy (for taking notes in case of > customer > telephone call). That could be a barrier to use YDL if I had to > compile > these myself or deal with RPM offered by other site and fight > dependency. > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-general mailing list > yellowdog-general at lists.fixstars.com > http://lists.fixstars.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general > HINT: to Google archives, try ' site:us.fixstars.com' I think you might find similar package lists for most of the linux distributions. For example, the project I work on for my current job uses TurboGears as the web framework. We support RHEL (and variants). The official RHEL install DVD's don't carry the TurboGears packages. The EPEL repositories do, but this would still count as 'installing from another site'. I just took a look at a CenOS 5.2 install DVD I had lying around and none of the packages you listed are part of the install DVD. While there is a greater chance of finding binary RPM's for a x86 distro of the packages you like, you should still be able to get the source RPM's to build and install, it will just take a little more time. Rob From hsyl20 at gmail.com Wed May 13 05:21:47 2009 From: hsyl20 at gmail.com (Sylvain HENRY) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 13:21:47 +0200 Subject: [ydl-gen] Upgrading YDL on PS3 cluster In-Reply-To: <200905121733.27602.kstaats@us.fixstars.com> References: <86b8670d0905112354p7130e8b7u257b6fab05bb9604@mail.gmail.com> <200905121733.27602.kstaats@us.fixstars.com> Message-ID: <86b8670d0905130421y1845d8ei5e2e6ba7c42be0a6@mail.gmail.com> kai, Thank you for your answer. I used Y-HPC to build the cluster (at least to format and to use the updated image on one of the node). I didn't reset the boot loader, I don't know how to do it. Could you give me the command to do it please? Regards, Sylvain 2009/5/13, Kai Staats : > Sylvain, > >> I'm in internship in a company which has bought a cluster (composed of >> 8 PS3 nodes and a G5 head all running YDL 6.0) to Terrasoft a few months >> ago. >> >> I would like to upgrade YDL to YDL 6.1 on PS3 nodes. I used: >> yum --installroot=/var/lib/yhpc/images/myimage update >> and it worked. But when I reload the image and reboot, the old Linux >> kernel (2.6.22) is still used. > > Did you reset the boot loader to use the newer kernel? > > Are you manually using YDL for each PS3, or using Y-HPC to build your > cluster? > > Sincerely, > kai > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-general mailing list > yellowdog-general at lists.fixstars.com > http://lists.fixstars.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general > HINT: to Google archives, try ' site:us.fixstars.com' > From zhangweiwu at realss.com Wed May 13 08:23:43 2009 From: zhangweiwu at realss.com (Zhang Weiwu) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 22:23:43 +0800 Subject: [ydl-gen] does yellow dog linux has the packages I need? In-Reply-To: <45487EE1-D9FE-416B-A8F3-21990B37B70E@travelinglightfarm.net> References: <4A082039.7090206@realss.com> <200905121201.19641.kstaats@us.fixstars.com> <4A0A2ECD.30203@realss.com> <45487EE1-D9FE-416B-A8F3-21990B37B70E@travelinglightfarm.net> Message-ID: <1242224623.30591.3.camel@cruella.linuxbanks.cn> ? 2009-05-13?? 06:25 -0400?Rob Sanders??? > I just took a look at a > CenOS 5.2 install DVD I had lying around and none of the packages you > listed are part of the install DVD. Hi. I am pretty sure many of the software I use (especially jedit) are not available on most Linux installation DVD (maybe with exception of Sun Java One linux distribution which have a focus on Java applications), however they are on the official online repository, e.g. in my case Ubuntu. From dcenteno at ydl.net Wed May 13 10:40:12 2009 From: dcenteno at ydl.net (Derick Centeno) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 12:40:12 -0400 Subject: [ydl-gen] does yellow dog linux has the packages I need? In-Reply-To: <4A0A2ECD.30203@realss.com> References: <4A082039.7090206@realss.com> <200905121201.19641.kstaats@us.fixstars.com> <4A0A2ECD.30203@realss.com> Message-ID: <20090513124012.2d4a1035@arakus> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 13 May 2009 10:22:05 +0800 Zhang Weiwu wrote: > Kai Staats wrote: > > Here is a list of the default, installed apps: > > http://us.fixstars.com/products/ydl/installed.shtml > > > > Here is a search tool for all apps available with the distribution: > > http://us.fixstars.com/products/ydl/included/ > > > It says "All Applications Included on the DVD". Is that equal to "all > apps available with the distribution"? I mean, even including the > packages available on official package repository on the Inernet? > > I have to ask this becaues "All Applications Included on the DVD" has > a lot of packages missing that I use daily. e.g. most software I keep > using for managing my web design projects are missing: freemind > (manage projects), jedit (for HTML/CSS), f-spot (for manage stoke > photos), unison (for sync websites), tomboy (for taking notes in case > of customer telephone call). That could be a barrier to use YDL if I > had to compile these myself or deal with RPM offered by other site > and fight dependency. _______________________________________________ Hi Zhang: I've followed your initial query to this list as well as the responses you received up to the point of Rob Sanders presented his advice. There appears to be a key point of understanding regarding Linux, which includes all Linux distributions - not only Yellow Dog Linux, which you are missing. Linux is intentionally designed to provide services and facilities to users interested in certain features. For instance various Linux distributions focus on serving or running on specific central processors - some run on Intel and compatibles, others run on the Cell and PowerPC family of processors, and some others run on a variety of processor families and a few can only run on one family of processors. The decision made regarding when a Linux distribution runs on a specific processor or a variety of processors - as well as what software is included with that distribution of Linux - is decided upon by companies and/or groups of volunteers who design that Linux distribution. Ubuntu, for instance, is a famous Linux distribution which specifically chooses to officially support Intel and compatible CPUs - exclusively. Ubuntu support for PowerPC family processors is unofficial, which means it is left to users or interested persons to support it. The approach provided by Fixstars is the reverse, official support for and the design of Yellow Dog Linux is intended to function on the PowerPC family of processors which include the Cell - exclusively, meaning there is no support for Intel and compatible processors at all. What all Linux distributions provide however, in addition to their variety of software packages, as it is also impossible for any one distribution to address or satisfy every individual on the planet, is the command line interface (CLI) which allows an individual to modify, program or redesign any of the software provided within a distribution or add to the body of software not provided or included by that company or group of volunteers. Clearly the CLI can be ignored or used, as the individual chooses. However, it is a fact that mastering the CLI as a utility provides an advantage to anyone who chooses to expand their skills. No one knows everything. However, the opportunity exists for any individual to expand their skills so that they can pursue and engage upon their personal projects as they please without waiting for an official release from any well intentioned company or group of volunteers. The CLI tool makes this possible. Regardless what distribution you settle upon keep in mind that the CLI will be there for you to implement and utilize when you are ready and choose to do so. It may interest you that there does exist a program designed some years ago by Terra Soft Solutions (which Fixstars bought) called yum which does search and sort out - by itself - the various dependencies (subprograms) which many larger applications use within the Linux universe. Yum not only searches and discovers available dependencies which an application needs - it installs the dependencies and applications for you correctly within Yellow Dog Linux. You can read about an earlier version of yum here: http://us.fixstars.com/support/solutions/ydl_5.0/yum.shtml What follows below is an execution of yum (from within the CLI in root mode) so that you can see how yum finds dependencies and installs them for you: [root at arakus aguila]# yum install "evol*" Loading "installonlyn" plugin Setting up Install Process Parsing package install arguments Package evolution - 2.12.3-8.3.ppc already installed and latest version Resolving Dependencies - --> Running transaction check - ---> Package evolution-data-server-doc.ppc 0:1.12.3-6.3 set to be updated ---> Package evolution-devel.ppc 0:2.12.3-8.3 set to be updated - ---> Package evolution-remove-duplicates.ppc 0:0.0.2-3.fc6 set to be updated ---> Package evolution-help.ppc 0:2.12.3-8.3 set to be updated - --> Processing Dependency: gtkhtml3-devel >= 3.16.0 for package: evolution-devel --> Restarting Dependency Resolution with new changes. - --> Running transaction check - ---> Package gtkhtml3-devel.ppc 0:3.16.3-1 set to be updated Dependencies Resolved ============================================================================= Package Arch Version Repository Size ============================================================================= Installing: evolution-data-server-doc ppc 1.12.3-6.3 updates 507 k evolution-devel ppc 2.12.3-8.3 updates 220 k evolution-help ppc 2.12.3-8.3 updates 36 M evolution-remove-duplicates ppc 0.0.2-3.fc6 extras 16 k Installing for dependencies: gtkhtml3-devel ppc 3.16.3-1 base 25 k Transaction Summary ============================================================================= Install 5 Package(s) Update 0 Package(s) Remove 0 Package(s) Total download size: 37 M Is this ok [y/N]: n Exiting on user Command Complete! [root at arakus aguila]# I chose "No" because I don't use Evolution. Of course, if it did interest me all I would need to do would type "y" for yes and yum would complete all the essentials and details for me. The software libraries yum researches can be expanded if one uses the CLI properly. Good fortune... Derick. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFKCvgBc3xeXdCgyKoRApmAAKCHr5Ytc0fdYhRHNUAgxr1FPSkbvQCgu7kx 8ogZRiVNy0u+fXIA/4zIpiw= =Rd4d -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From kstaats at us.fixstars.com Wed May 13 17:52:37 2009 From: kstaats at us.fixstars.com (Kai Staats) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 17:52:37 -0600 Subject: [ydl-gen] does yellow dog linux has the packages I need? In-Reply-To: <4A0A2ECD.30203@realss.com> References: <4A082039.7090206@realss.com> <200905121201.19641.kstaats@us.fixstars.com> <4A0A2ECD.30203@realss.com> Message-ID: <200905131752.37619.kstaats@us.fixstars.com> Zhang, > It says "All Applications Included on the DVD". Is that equal to "all > apps available with the distribution"? I mean, even including the > packages available on official package repository on the Inernet? The "distribution" of YDL is defined as those packages we choose to include on the DVD and via our public mirrors. There are countless thousands of other apps also available world-wide, which are already functional on Power, or may be ported to Power and YDL with a recompile (in most cases). kai From zhangweiwu at realss.com Wed May 13 18:01:41 2009 From: zhangweiwu at realss.com (Zhang Weiwu) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 08:01:41 +0800 Subject: [ydl-gen] does yellow dog linux has the packages I need? In-Reply-To: <20090513124012.2d4a1035@arakus> References: <4A082039.7090206@realss.com> <200905121201.19641.kstaats@us.fixstars.com> <4A0A2ECD.30203@realss.com> <20090513124012.2d4a1035@arakus> Message-ID: <4A0B5F65.1050902@realss.com> Derick Centeno wrote: > I've followed your initial query to this list as well as the responses > you received up to the point of Rob Sanders presented his advice. > There appears to be a key point of understanding regarding Linux, > which includes all Linux distributions - not only Yellow Dog Linux, > which you are missing. > > Thank you very much for the very detailed answer. > What all Linux distributions provide however, in addition to their > variety of software packages, as it is also impossible for any one > distribution to address or satisfy every individual on the planet, is > the command line interface (CLI) which allows an individual to modify, > program or redesign any of the software provided within a distribution > or add to the body of software not provided or included by that company > or group of volunteers. > I am a web designer who have an iBook and a Thinkpad, where I used Mac OS on iBook and Ubuntu on Thinkpad, for years. The years of experience using both Mac OS and Ubuntu gives me the impression the purpose of Linux distribution and Mac OS distribution is to serve people who want to work or entertain. I used RedHat several years ago, when I just wanted to play a game, it asks me to download RPM package, one after another, and show me why they are not compatible with each other, to the end almost let me forgot I wanted to play a game, and it describes all these trouble to me as advantage of CLI. I almost believed it if I had not used Ubuntu, who never asked me stupid questions on installing a software, unless if it simply say the software is not in the repository. I know about compiling from source, and enjoyed it quiet well when I was studying computer science several years ago. I used to be a developer myself, and contributed patches to FreeBSD project, for example (although only to FreeBSD's ftp server part, not as serious as kernel). Now, when I choose to use a distribution, I wondwer if it supports my work, and supports my hardware. Does Mac OS supports my work? Yes. Does Ubuntu do so? Yes. Does Ubuntu officially support powerpc? No, YDL does. Then naturally next question is "does YDL support my work"? I don't mind installing some packages form CLI, but years of experience told me, if the packages are on online repository, installing it from CLI is a single step, otherwise you are on your own, a.k.a. "not supported". Back to my question "does YDL /supports/ my work"? > Clearly the CLI can be ignored or used, as the individual chooses. > However, it is a fact that mastering the CLI as a utility provides an > advantage to anyone who chooses to expand their skills. I don't belives in CLI advantage metaphor from commandline elites as much as I don't believe in Windows security & benifit metaphor from Microsoft, especially after switched job from between management role, php developer, sysop, graphical designer, copy editer and web designer and see how CLI support each role working. But this is really Off-Topic, it is not because I don't want to use CLI that I don't compille my own package. It is I miss the "supported" feeling as a user. Maybe it sounds stupid, but there are many people like me: OS is a TOOL for me, not a spirital believe (like RMS) or a toy to play for fun (as Linus consider in "just for fun") for me. If YDL developer shares the same view as RMS or Linus, I am sure their product YDL would not be the best for me. (Then again, for lack of ppc supporting distros, there probably no second choice but to keep Mac OS) From lisa.m.hanson at boeing.com Thu May 28 14:16:44 2009 From: lisa.m.hanson at boeing.com (Hanson, Lisa M) Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 13:16:44 -0700 Subject: [ydl-gen] Is Eclipse available for YDL 4.0-1? Message-ID: <3CBC1A2865A6FB42AE623DB366F97E3402C4F9A3@XCH-NW-11V1.nw.nos.boeing.com> Is there a version of Eclipse available for Yellow Dog Linux 4.0-1? If so, where can I get it? Thanks, Lisa From apocman at hotmail.com Thu May 28 14:17:24 2009 From: apocman at hotmail.com (apocman at hotmail.com) Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 13:17:24 -0700 Subject: [ydl-gen] Vacation reply In-Reply-To: <3CBC1A2865A6FB42AE623DB366F97E3402C4F9A3@XCH-NW-11V1.nw.nos.boeing.com> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Die urspr?ngliche Nachricht wurde an diesen Bericht angeh?ngt, so dass Sie sie anschauen k?nnen (falls es doch eine legitime E-Mail ist) oder ?hnliche unerw?nschte Nachrichten in Zukunft markieren k?nnen. Bei Fragen zu diesem Vorgang wenden Sie sich bitte an postmaster at teamware-gmbh.de Vorschau: Dear friend: This is the greeting from exdil LTD.,one of the big Electrical wholesaler and Retailer in China.We mainly sell electrical product such as digital cameras, mobile,LCD TV,xbox, Laptops,DV,Mp4, GPS, please visit our website: exdil.com We can offer you both high quality products and good price .All items we list on this website are brand new and original with sealed box. and come with official warranty . [...] Inhaltsanalyse im Detail: (6.4 Punkte, 5.0 ben?tigt) Pkte Regelname Beschreibung ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 2.0 URIBL_BLACK Contains an URL listed in the URIBL blacklist [URIs: exdil.com] 0.6 J_CHICKENPOX_24 BODY: 2alpha-pock-4alpha 0.6 J_CHICKENPOX_72 BODY: 7alpha-pock-2alpha 2.7 DEAR_FRIEND BODY: Anonyme Anrede ("dear friend") 0.6 J_CHICKENPOX_63 BODY: 6alpha-pock-3alpha 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: Nachricht enth?lt HTML -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Spamwahrscheinlichkeit nach Bayes-Test: 0-1% [score: 0.0000] 0.5 RAZOR2_CHECK Gelistet im "Razor2"-System (http://razor.sf.net/) 1.5 RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E4_51_100 Razor2 gives engine 4 confidence level above 50% [cf: 70] 0.5 RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100 Razor2 Spam-Bewertung liegt zwischen 51 und 100 [cf: 70] Die urspr?ngliche Nachricht enthielt nicht ausschlie?lich Klartext (plain text) und kann eventuell eine Gefahr f?r einige E-Mail-Programme darstellen (falls sie z.B. einen Computervirus enth?lt). 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Bei Fragen zu diesem Vorgang wenden Sie sich bitte an postmaster at teamware-gmbh.de Vorschau: Dear friend: This is the greeting from exdil LTD.,one of the big Electrical wholesaler and Retailer in China.We mainly sell electrical product such as digital cameras, mobile,LCD TV,xbox, Laptops,DV,Mp4, GPS, please visit our website: exdil.com We can offer you both high quality products and good price .All items we list on this website are brand new and original with sealed box. and come with official warranty . [...] Inhaltsanalyse im Detail: (6.4 Punkte, 5.0 ben?tigt) Pkte Regelname Beschreibung ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 2.0 URIBL_BLACK Contains an URL listed in the URIBL blacklist [URIs: exdil.com] 0.6 J_CHICKENPOX_24 BODY: 2alpha-pock-4alpha 0.6 J_CHICKENPOX_72 BODY: 7alpha-pock-2alpha 2.7 DEAR_FRIEND BODY: Anonyme Anrede ("dear friend") 0.6 J_CHICKENPOX_63 BODY: 6alpha-pock-3alpha 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: Nachricht enth?lt HTML -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Spamwahrscheinlichkeit nach Bayes-Test: 0-1% [score: 0.0000] 0.5 RAZOR2_CHECK Gelistet im "Razor2"-System (http://razor.sf.net/) 1.5 RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E4_51_100 Razor2 gives engine 4 confidence level above 50% [cf: 70] 0.5 RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100 Razor2 Spam-Bewertung liegt zwischen 51 und 100 [cf: 70] Die urspr?ngliche Nachricht enthielt nicht ausschlie?lich Klartext (plain text) und kann eventuell eine Gefahr f?r einige E-Mail-Programme darstellen (falls sie z.B. einen Computervirus enth?lt). M?chten Sie die Nachricht dennoch ansehen, ist es wahrscheinlich sicherer, sie zuerst in einer Datei zu speichern und diese Datei danach mit einem Texteditor zu ?ffnen. -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Subject: [ydl-gen] Vacation reply Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 13:17:55 -0700 Size: 5868 Url: http://lists.fixstars.com/pipermail/yellowdog-general/attachments/20090528/f24fae61/attachment-0001.mht From apocman at hotmail.com Thu May 28 14:17:24 2009 From: apocman at hotmail.com (apocman at hotmail.com) Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 13:17:24 -0700 Subject: [ydl-gen] *****SPAM***** *****SPAM***** Vacation reply Message-ID: Software zur Erkennung von "Spam" auf dem Rechner priamus.teamware-gmbh.de hat die eingegangene E-mail als m?gliche "Spam"-Nachricht identifiziert. Die urspr?ngliche Nachricht wurde an diesen Bericht angeh?ngt, so dass Sie sie anschauen k?nnen (falls es doch eine legitime E-Mail ist) oder ?hnliche unerw?nschte Nachrichten in Zukunft markieren k?nnen. Bei Fragen zu diesem Vorgang wenden Sie sich bitte an postmaster at teamware-gmbh.de Vorschau: Software zur Erkennung von "Spam" auf dem Rechner priamus.teamware-gmbh.de hat die eingegangene E-mail als m?gliche "Spam"-Nachricht identifiziert. Die urspr?ngliche Nachricht wurde an diesen Bericht angeh?ngt, so dass Sie sie anschauen k?nnen (falls es doch eine legitime E-Mail ist) oder ?hnliche unerw?nschte Nachrichten in Zukunft markieren k?nnen. Bei Fragen zu diesem Vorgang wenden Sie sich bitte an [...] Inhaltsanalyse im Detail: (5.4 Punkte, 5.0 ben?tigt) Pkte Regelname Beschreibung ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 2.0 URIBL_BLACK Contains an URL listed in the URIBL blacklist [URIs: exdil.com] 1.5 FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD2 Absendeadresse von hotmail.com, aber keine passende "Received"-Zeile 0.6 J_CHICKENPOX_24 BODY: 2alpha-pock-4alpha 0.6 J_CHICKENPOX_72 BODY: 7alpha-pock-2alpha 2.7 DEAR_FRIEND BODY: Anonyme Anrede ("dear friend") 0.6 J_CHICKENPOX_63 BODY: 6alpha-pock-3alpha 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: Nachricht enth?lt HTML -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Spamwahrscheinlichkeit nach Bayes-Test: 0-1% [score: 0.0000] Die urspr?ngliche Nachricht enthielt nicht ausschlie?lich Klartext (plain text) und kann eventuell eine Gefahr f?r einige E-Mail-Programme darstellen (falls sie z.B. einen Computervirus enth?lt). M?chten Sie die Nachricht dennoch ansehen, ist es wahrscheinlich sicherer, sie zuerst in einer Datei zu speichern und diese Datei danach mit einem Texteditor zu ?ffnen. -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Subject: [ydl-gen] *****SPAM***** Vacation reply Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 13:17:24 -0700 Size: 12582 Url: http://lists.fixstars.com/pipermail/yellowdog-general/attachments/20090528/3f008db5/attachment-0002.mht From apocman at hotmail.com Thu May 28 14:17:55 2009 From: apocman at hotmail.com (apocman at hotmail.com) Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 13:17:55 -0700 Subject: [ydl-gen] *****SPAM***** *****SPAM***** Vacation reply Message-ID: Software zur Erkennung von "Spam" auf dem Rechner priamus.teamware-gmbh.de hat die eingegangene E-mail als m?gliche "Spam"-Nachricht identifiziert. Die urspr?ngliche Nachricht wurde an diesen Bericht angeh?ngt, so dass Sie sie anschauen k?nnen (falls es doch eine legitime E-Mail ist) oder ?hnliche unerw?nschte Nachrichten in Zukunft markieren k?nnen. Bei Fragen zu diesem Vorgang wenden Sie sich bitte an postmaster at teamware-gmbh.de Vorschau: Software zur Erkennung von "Spam" auf dem Rechner priamus.teamware-gmbh.de hat die eingegangene E-mail als m?gliche "Spam"-Nachricht identifiziert. Die urspr?ngliche Nachricht wurde an diesen Bericht angeh?ngt, so dass Sie sie anschauen k?nnen (falls es doch eine legitime E-Mail ist) oder ?hnliche unerw?nschte Nachrichten in Zukunft markieren k?nnen. Bei Fragen zu diesem Vorgang wenden Sie sich bitte an [...] Inhaltsanalyse im Detail: (5.4 Punkte, 5.0 ben?tigt) Pkte Regelname Beschreibung ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 2.0 URIBL_BLACK Contains an URL listed in the URIBL blacklist [URIs: exdil.com] 1.5 FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD2 Absendeadresse von hotmail.com, aber keine passende "Received"-Zeile 0.6 J_CHICKENPOX_24 BODY: 2alpha-pock-4alpha 0.6 J_CHICKENPOX_72 BODY: 7alpha-pock-2alpha 2.7 DEAR_FRIEND BODY: Anonyme Anrede ("dear friend") 0.6 J_CHICKENPOX_63 BODY: 6alpha-pock-3alpha 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: Nachricht enth?lt HTML -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Spamwahrscheinlichkeit nach Bayes-Test: 0-1% [score: 0.0000] Die urspr?ngliche Nachricht enthielt nicht ausschlie?lich Klartext (plain text) und kann eventuell eine Gefahr f?r einige E-Mail-Programme darstellen (falls sie z.B. einen Computervirus enth?lt). M?chten Sie die Nachricht dennoch ansehen, ist es wahrscheinlich sicherer, sie zuerst in einer Datei zu speichern und diese Datei danach mit einem Texteditor zu ?ffnen. -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Subject: [ydl-gen] *****SPAM***** Vacation reply Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 13:17:55 -0700 Size: 12557 Url: http://lists.fixstars.com/pipermail/yellowdog-general/attachments/20090528/f24fae61/attachment-0003.mht From apocman at hotmail.com Thu May 28 14:17:24 2009 From: apocman at hotmail.com (apocman at hotmail.com) Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 13:17:24 -0700 Subject: [ydl-gen] *****SPAM***** *****SPAM***** *****SPAM***** Vacation reply Message-ID: Software zur Erkennung von "Spam" auf dem Rechner priamus.teamware-gmbh.de hat die eingegangene E-mail als m?gliche "Spam"-Nachricht identifiziert. Die urspr?ngliche Nachricht wurde an diesen Bericht angeh?ngt, so dass Sie sie anschauen k?nnen (falls es doch eine legitime E-Mail ist) oder ?hnliche unerw?nschte Nachrichten in Zukunft markieren k?nnen. Bei Fragen zu diesem Vorgang wenden Sie sich bitte an postmaster at teamware-gmbh.de Vorschau: Software zur Erkennung von "Spam" auf dem Rechner priamus.teamware-gmbh.de hat die eingegangene E-mail als m?gliche "Spam"-Nachricht identifiziert. Die urspr?ngliche Nachricht wurde an diesen Bericht angeh?ngt, so dass Sie sie anschauen k?nnen (falls es doch eine legitime E-Mail ist) oder ?hnliche unerw?nschte Nachrichten in Zukunft markieren k?nnen. Bei Fragen zu diesem Vorgang wenden Sie sich bitte an [...] Inhaltsanalyse im Detail: (5.4 Punkte, 5.0 ben?tigt) Pkte Regelname Beschreibung ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 2.0 URIBL_BLACK Contains an URL listed in the URIBL blacklist [URIs: exdil.com] 1.5 FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD2 Absendeadresse von hotmail.com, aber keine passende "Received"-Zeile 0.6 J_CHICKENPOX_24 BODY: 2alpha-pock-4alpha 0.6 J_CHICKENPOX_72 BODY: 7alpha-pock-2alpha 2.7 DEAR_FRIEND BODY: Anonyme Anrede ("dear friend") 0.6 J_CHICKENPOX_63 BODY: 6alpha-pock-3alpha 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: Nachricht enth?lt HTML -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Spamwahrscheinlichkeit nach Bayes-Test: 0-1% [score: 0.0000] Die urspr?ngliche Nachricht enthielt nicht ausschlie?lich Klartext (plain text) und kann eventuell eine Gefahr f?r einige E-Mail-Programme darstellen (falls sie z.B. einen Computervirus enth?lt). 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Die urspr?ngliche Nachricht wurde an diesen Bericht angeh?ngt, so dass Sie sie anschauen k?nnen (falls es doch eine legitime E-Mail ist) oder ?hnliche unerw?nschte Nachrichten in Zukunft markieren k?nnen. Bei Fragen zu diesem Vorgang wenden Sie sich bitte an postmaster at teamware-gmbh.de Vorschau: Software zur Erkennung von "Spam" auf dem Rechner priamus.teamware-gmbh.de hat die eingegangene E-mail als m?gliche "Spam"-Nachricht identifiziert. Die urspr?ngliche Nachricht wurde an diesen Bericht angeh?ngt, so dass Sie sie anschauen k?nnen (falls es doch eine legitime E-Mail ist) oder ?hnliche unerw?nschte Nachrichten in Zukunft markieren k?nnen. Bei Fragen zu diesem Vorgang wenden Sie sich bitte an [...] Inhaltsanalyse im Detail: (5.4 Punkte, 5.0 ben?tigt) Pkte Regelname Beschreibung ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 2.0 URIBL_BLACK Contains an URL listed in the URIBL blacklist [URIs: exdil.com] 1.5 FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD2 Absendeadresse von hotmail.com, aber keine passende "Received"-Zeile 0.6 J_CHICKENPOX_24 BODY: 2alpha-pock-4alpha 0.6 J_CHICKENPOX_72 BODY: 7alpha-pock-2alpha 2.7 DEAR_FRIEND BODY: Anonyme Anrede ("dear friend") 0.6 J_CHICKENPOX_63 BODY: 6alpha-pock-3alpha 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: Nachricht enth?lt HTML -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Spamwahrscheinlichkeit nach Bayes-Test: 0-1% [score: 0.0000] Die urspr?ngliche Nachricht enthielt nicht ausschlie?lich Klartext (plain text) und kann eventuell eine Gefahr f?r einige E-Mail-Programme darstellen (falls sie z.B. einen Computervirus enth?lt). 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Die urspr?ngliche Nachricht wurde an diesen Bericht angeh?ngt, so dass Sie sie anschauen k?nnen (falls es doch eine legitime E-Mail ist) oder ?hnliche unerw?nschte Nachrichten in Zukunft markieren k?nnen. Bei Fragen zu diesem Vorgang wenden Sie sich bitte an postmaster at teamware-gmbh.de Vorschau: Software zur Erkennung von "Spam" auf dem Rechner priamus.teamware-gmbh.de hat die eingegangene E-mail als m?gliche "Spam"-Nachricht identifiziert. Die urspr?ngliche Nachricht wurde an diesen Bericht angeh?ngt, so dass Sie sie anschauen k?nnen (falls es doch eine legitime E-Mail ist) oder ?hnliche unerw?nschte Nachrichten in Zukunft markieren k?nnen. Bei Fragen zu diesem Vorgang wenden Sie sich bitte an [...] Inhaltsanalyse im Detail: (5.4 Punkte, 5.0 ben?tigt) Pkte Regelname Beschreibung ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 2.0 URIBL_BLACK Contains an URL listed in the URIBL blacklist [URIs: exdil.com] 1.5 FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD2 Absendeadresse von hotmail.com, aber keine passende "Received"-Zeile 0.6 J_CHICKENPOX_24 BODY: 2alpha-pock-4alpha 0.6 J_CHICKENPOX_72 BODY: 7alpha-pock-2alpha 2.7 DEAR_FRIEND BODY: Anonyme Anrede ("dear friend") 0.6 J_CHICKENPOX_63 BODY: 6alpha-pock-3alpha 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: Nachricht enth?lt HTML -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Spamwahrscheinlichkeit nach Bayes-Test: 0-1% [score: 0.0000] Die urspr?ngliche Nachricht enthielt nicht ausschlie?lich Klartext (plain text) und kann eventuell eine Gefahr f?r einige E-Mail-Programme darstellen (falls sie z.B. einen Computervirus enth?lt). 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Die urspr?ngliche Nachricht wurde an diesen Bericht angeh?ngt, so dass Sie sie anschauen k?nnen (falls es doch eine legitime E-Mail ist) oder ?hnliche unerw?nschte Nachrichten in Zukunft markieren k?nnen. Bei Fragen zu diesem Vorgang wenden Sie sich bitte an postmaster at teamware-gmbh.de Vorschau: Software zur Erkennung von "Spam" auf dem Rechner priamus.teamware-gmbh.de hat die eingegangene E-mail als m?gliche "Spam"-Nachricht identifiziert. Die urspr?ngliche Nachricht wurde an diesen Bericht angeh?ngt, so dass Sie sie anschauen k?nnen (falls es doch eine legitime E-Mail ist) oder ?hnliche unerw?nschte Nachrichten in Zukunft markieren k?nnen. Bei Fragen zu diesem Vorgang wenden Sie sich bitte an [...] Inhaltsanalyse im Detail: (5.4 Punkte, 5.0 ben?tigt) Pkte Regelname Beschreibung ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 2.0 URIBL_BLACK Contains an URL listed in the URIBL blacklist [URIs: exdil.com] 1.5 FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD2 Absendeadresse von hotmail.com, aber keine passende "Received"-Zeile 0.6 J_CHICKENPOX_24 BODY: 2alpha-pock-4alpha 0.6 J_CHICKENPOX_72 BODY: 7alpha-pock-2alpha 2.7 DEAR_FRIEND BODY: Anonyme Anrede ("dear friend") 0.6 J_CHICKENPOX_63 BODY: 6alpha-pock-3alpha 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: Nachricht enth?lt HTML -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Spamwahrscheinlichkeit nach Bayes-Test: 0-1% [score: 0.0000] Die urspr?ngliche Nachricht enthielt nicht ausschlie?lich Klartext (plain text) und kann eventuell eine Gefahr f?r einige E-Mail-Programme darstellen (falls sie z.B. einen Computervirus enth?lt). M?chten Sie die Nachricht dennoch ansehen, ist es wahrscheinlich sicherer, sie zuerst in einer Datei zu speichern und diese Datei danach mit einem Texteditor zu ?ffnen. -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Subject: [ydl-gen] *****SPAM***** *****SPAM***** *****SPAM***** Vacation reply Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 13:17:55 -0700 Size: 25474 Url: http://lists.fixstars.com/pipermail/yellowdog-general/attachments/20090528/f24fae61/attachment-0007.mht From apocman at hotmail.com Thu May 28 14:17:24 2009 From: apocman at hotmail.com (apocman at hotmail.com) Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 13:17:24 -0700 Subject: [ydl-gen] *****SPAM***** *****SPAM***** *****SPAM***** *****SPAM***** *****SPAM***** Vacation reply Message-ID: Software zur Erkennung von "Spam" auf dem Rechner priamus.teamware-gmbh.de hat die eingegangene E-mail als m?gliche "Spam"-Nachricht identifiziert. Die urspr?ngliche Nachricht wurde an diesen Bericht angeh?ngt, so dass Sie sie anschauen k?nnen (falls es doch eine legitime E-Mail ist) oder ?hnliche unerw?nschte Nachrichten in Zukunft markieren k?nnen. Bei Fragen zu diesem Vorgang wenden Sie sich bitte an postmaster at teamware-gmbh.de Vorschau: Software zur Erkennung von "Spam" auf dem Rechner priamus.teamware-gmbh.de hat die eingegangene E-mail als m?gliche "Spam"-Nachricht identifiziert. Die urspr?ngliche Nachricht wurde an diesen Bericht angeh?ngt, so dass Sie sie anschauen k?nnen (falls es doch eine legitime E-Mail ist) oder ?hnliche unerw?nschte Nachrichten in Zukunft markieren k?nnen. Bei Fragen zu diesem Vorgang wenden Sie sich bitte an [...] Inhaltsanalyse im Detail: (5.4 Punkte, 5.0 ben?tigt) Pkte Regelname Beschreibung ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 2.0 URIBL_BLACK Contains an URL listed in the URIBL blacklist [URIs: exdil.com] 1.5 FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD2 Absendeadresse von hotmail.com, aber keine passende "Received"-Zeile 0.6 J_CHICKENPOX_24 BODY: 2alpha-pock-4alpha 0.6 J_CHICKENPOX_72 BODY: 7alpha-pock-2alpha 2.7 DEAR_FRIEND BODY: Anonyme Anrede ("dear friend") 0.6 J_CHICKENPOX_63 BODY: 6alpha-pock-3alpha 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: Nachricht enth?lt HTML -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Spamwahrscheinlichkeit nach Bayes-Test: 0-1% [score: 0.0000] Die urspr?ngliche Nachricht enthielt nicht ausschlie?lich Klartext (plain text) und kann eventuell eine Gefahr f?r einige E-Mail-Programme darstellen (falls sie z.B. einen Computervirus enth?lt). M?chten Sie die Nachricht dennoch ansehen, ist es wahrscheinlich sicherer, sie zuerst in einer Datei zu speichern und diese Datei danach mit einem Texteditor zu ?ffnen. -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Subject: [ydl-gen] *****SPAM***** *****SPAM***** *****SPAM***** *****SPAM***** Vacation reply Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 13:17:24 -0700 Size: 31977 Url: http://lists.fixstars.com/pipermail/yellowdog-general/attachments/20090528/3f008db5/attachment-0009.mht From apocman at hotmail.com Thu May 28 14:17:55 2009 From: apocman at hotmail.com (apocman at hotmail.com) Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 13:17:55 -0700 Subject: [ydl-gen] *****SPAM***** *****SPAM***** *****SPAM***** *****SPAM***** *****SPAM***** Vacation reply Message-ID: Software zur Erkennung von "Spam" auf dem Rechner priamus.teamware-gmbh.de hat die eingegangene E-mail als m?gliche "Spam"-Nachricht identifiziert. Die urspr?ngliche Nachricht wurde an diesen Bericht angeh?ngt, so dass Sie sie anschauen k?nnen (falls es doch eine legitime E-Mail ist) oder ?hnliche unerw?nschte Nachrichten in Zukunft markieren k?nnen. Bei Fragen zu diesem Vorgang wenden Sie sich bitte an postmaster at teamware-gmbh.de Vorschau: Software zur Erkennung von "Spam" auf dem Rechner priamus.teamware-gmbh.de hat die eingegangene E-mail als m?gliche "Spam"-Nachricht identifiziert. Die urspr?ngliche Nachricht wurde an diesen Bericht angeh?ngt, so dass Sie sie anschauen k?nnen (falls es doch eine legitime E-Mail ist) oder ?hnliche unerw?nschte Nachrichten in Zukunft markieren k?nnen. Bei Fragen zu diesem Vorgang wenden Sie sich bitte an [...] Inhaltsanalyse im Detail: (5.4 Punkte, 5.0 ben?tigt) Pkte Regelname Beschreibung ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 2.0 URIBL_BLACK Contains an URL listed in the URIBL blacklist [URIs: exdil.com] 1.5 FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD2 Absendeadresse von hotmail.com, aber keine passende "Received"-Zeile 0.6 J_CHICKENPOX_24 BODY: 2alpha-pock-4alpha 0.6 J_CHICKENPOX_72 BODY: 7alpha-pock-2alpha 2.7 DEAR_FRIEND BODY: Anonyme Anrede ("dear friend") 0.6 J_CHICKENPOX_63 BODY: 6alpha-pock-3alpha 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: Nachricht enth?lt HTML -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Spamwahrscheinlichkeit nach Bayes-Test: 0-1% [score: 0.0000] Die urspr?ngliche Nachricht enthielt nicht ausschlie?lich Klartext (plain text) und kann eventuell eine Gefahr f?r einige E-Mail-Programme darstellen (falls sie z.B. einen Computervirus enth?lt). M?chten Sie die Nachricht dennoch ansehen, ist es wahrscheinlich sicherer, sie zuerst in einer Datei zu speichern und diese Datei danach mit einem Texteditor zu ?ffnen. -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Subject: [ydl-gen] *****SPAM***** *****SPAM***** *****SPAM***** *****SPAM***** Vacation reply Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 13:17:55 -0700 Size: 31955 Url: http://lists.fixstars.com/pipermail/yellowdog-general/attachments/20090528/f24fae61/attachment-0009.mht From apocman at hotmail.com Thu May 28 14:17:24 2009 From: apocman at hotmail.com (apocman at hotmail.com) Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 13:17:24 -0700 Subject: [ydl-gen] *****SPAM***** *****SPAM***** *****SPAM***** *****SPAM***** *****SPAM***** *****SPAM***** Vacation reply Message-ID: Software zur Erkennung von "Spam" auf dem Rechner priamus.teamware-gmbh.de hat die eingegangene E-mail als m?gliche "Spam"-Nachricht identifiziert. Die urspr?ngliche Nachricht wurde an diesen Bericht angeh?ngt, so dass Sie sie anschauen k?nnen (falls es doch eine legitime E-Mail ist) oder ?hnliche unerw?nschte Nachrichten in Zukunft markieren k?nnen. Bei Fragen zu diesem Vorgang wenden Sie sich bitte an postmaster at teamware-gmbh.de Vorschau: Software zur Erkennung von "Spam" auf dem Rechner priamus.teamware-gmbh.de hat die eingegangene E-mail als m?gliche "Spam"-Nachricht identifiziert. Die urspr?ngliche Nachricht wurde an diesen Bericht angeh?ngt, so dass Sie sie anschauen k?nnen (falls es doch eine legitime E-Mail ist) oder ?hnliche unerw?nschte Nachrichten in Zukunft markieren k?nnen. Bei Fragen zu diesem Vorgang wenden Sie sich bitte an [...] Inhaltsanalyse im Detail: (5.4 Punkte, 5.0 ben?tigt) Pkte Regelname Beschreibung ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 2.0 URIBL_BLACK Contains an URL listed in the URIBL blacklist [URIs: exdil.com] 1.5 FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD2 Absendeadresse von hotmail.com, aber keine passende "Received"-Zeile 0.6 J_CHICKENPOX_24 BODY: 2alpha-pock-4alpha 0.6 J_CHICKENPOX_72 BODY: 7alpha-pock-2alpha 2.7 DEAR_FRIEND BODY: Anonyme Anrede ("dear friend") 0.6 J_CHICKENPOX_63 BODY: 6alpha-pock-3alpha 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: Nachricht enth?lt HTML -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Spamwahrscheinlichkeit nach Bayes-Test: 0-1% [score: 0.0000] Die urspr?ngliche Nachricht enthielt nicht ausschlie?lich Klartext (plain text) und kann eventuell eine Gefahr f?r einige E-Mail-Programme darstellen (falls sie z.B. einen Computervirus enth?lt). 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From: Subject: [ydl-gen] *****SPAM***** *****SPAM***** *****SPAM***** *****SPAM***** *****SPAM***** Vacation reply Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 13:17:24 -0700 Size: 38472 Url: http://lists.fixstars.com/pipermail/yellowdog-general/attachments/20090528/3f008db5/attachment-0011.mht From kstaats at us.fixstars.com Thu May 28 17:50:02 2009 From: kstaats at us.fixstars.com (Kai Staats) Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 17:50:02 -0600 Subject: [ydl-gen] =?utf-8?q?*****SPAM*****_*****SPAM*****_*****SPAM*****_?= =?utf-8?q?*****SPAM*****_Vacation=09reply?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200905281750.02531.kstaats@us.fixstars.com> On Thursday 28 May 2009 14:17, apocman at hotmail.com wrote: > Software zur Erkennung von "Spam" auf dem Rechner This subscriber has been permanently banned --our apology. kai From dcenteno at ydl.net Thu May 28 17:23:56 2009 From: dcenteno at ydl.net (Derick Centeno) Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 19:23:56 -0400 Subject: [ydl-gen] Is Eclipse available for YDL 4.0-1? In-Reply-To: <3CBC1A2865A6FB42AE623DB366F97E3402C4F9A3@XCH-NW-11V1.nw.nos.boeing.com> References: <3CBC1A2865A6FB42AE623DB366F97E3402C4F9A3@XCH-NW-11V1.nw.nos.boeing.com> Message-ID: <20090528192356.0044ea9e@arakus> On Thu, 28 May 2009 13:16:44 -0700 "Hanson, Lisa M" wrote: > Is there a version of Eclipse available for Yellow Dog Linux 4.0-1? > If so, where can I get it? > > Thanks, > Lisa > You should be able to get it from here: http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/ Just remember that you're going to have to: * resort to using an early version of Eclipse which matches YDL 4; hopefully that early version of Eclipse remains available. Remember that Eclipse may need dependencies (smaller programs) to run; you will have to also find where they are located - and download them as well, again remember to make sure they are as old as the version of Eclipse you are using. You may be in luck if the project which created Eclipse keeps a record of where to find the dependencies and if you are really lucky they are available from the same place where you get Eclipse. If not try looking for these or other dependencies at http://www.sourceforge.net/. Another thing to remember you will have to know how to compile all these programs from source in the right sequence and then have them installed as you complete make. As a programmer there is work which is interesting and work which I rather avoid as it keeps me from useful work I need to do. Of course, there are analogies to this is all fields, but in regards to computers dealing with unnecessary stuff when you do know what you are doing is pretty difficult to bear. Of course, if someone doesn't know anything about programming then the challenges I'm discussing is very much worse. Consider that yum may not be able to help you as there are no YDL mirrors which maintain YDL packages older than YDL 5. Should you be able to move up to YDL 5 or 6, then yum will be useful to you again and you won't have to deal with putting so much together on your own. I believe I recall reading that Fixstars would restore the older versions of YDL within a server reserved for access by members of YDL.net; you'll have to query Fixstars directly for more details. The other option you have is to instruct yum to search the PPC release of Fedora. All the best... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Eventually, I tried this: nvsetenv boot-screen enet:0 [ENTER] nvsetenv console-screen enet:0 [ENTER] nvsetenv input-device enet:0 [ENTER] nvsetenv output-device enet:0 [ENTER] (from http://us.fixstars.com/products/y-hpc/userguide/netboot.shtml) As you might guess, this did not fix the headless boot issue. Now the PowerMac turns on but eventually the fans spin up and there is no output to the screen. It responds to ping and gets an ip address, so it is talking to the dhcp server. I believe it is still set to boot from the hard disk, nvsetenv boot-device hd:,\\:yaboot so I don't think a netboot is possible. But please correct me if I am wrong. Is it possible to send open firmware commands via tftp at this stage, or somehow reset the nvram settings? I have tried holding down the power button until the long beep. I have also removed the internal battery. Unfortunately, these units don't have serial ports (unlike the Xserve G5), so I cannot open a serial console. I gather from extensive googling that booting headless is not possible in this case. Or maybe there is a non-public proprietary yaboot patch somewhere. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Fortunately, the G5's original disk is intact and fully backed up, but it would be a shame to lose this little puppy. -Ed ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Edward D. Zaron Senior Research Associate Hydrodynamic Process and Ecosystems Research Group Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering Portland State University Portland, OR 97207-0751 Phone: (503)-725-2435 FAX: (503)-725-5950 zaron at cecs.pdx.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~