[ydl-gen] pathetic

[Sam Lummis]

As Derick has said, OpenSource does in no way mean free. That's a
connotation uninformed people consistently derive about Open Source
Software. It's insulting that you'll insult a perfectly legitimate, well
meaning company without doing your research.

On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 6:26 AM, Derick Centeno <dcenteno at ydl.net> wrote:

> On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 09:38:18 -0500
> Young-Min Park <smpl90s at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Don't call yourselves open source if it's not free.  This is an
> > outrage to everyone who as ever volunteered their time and expertise
> > to open source projects without pay.
> >
>
> Hi Park:
>
> Judging from your comment, it appears there is some misunderstanding of
> what is offered as a commercial service/product and what is open source.
> Briefly, there are multiple definitions of open source around the world
> which are explained here:
>
> http://www.opensource.org/
>
> If you can take the time to explore the various licenses and kinds of
> open source commitments which many companies adhere to and expect
> their users to adhere to as well, you'll observe the very large breadth
> or gap of intention and meaning of all these various licenses -- it is
> an education to explore as much of them as possible. Although various
> companies do offer some of their software products as "open source"
> they define the conditions they choose to do so and those conditions
> express widely differing definitions, and circumstances regarding when
> such a process will be done.  The expectations and obligations by those
> using their software also differ.  Some companies state very clearly
> that if the reader doesn't agree to the terms of what the company or
> project is offering, then one must not use the software.
>
> Some of what companies and projects offer is committed to open source
> only after a period of time and/or under particular circumstances.  PGP
> (pgp.com), for instance, makes their contribution in two different
> ways.  They offer a trial software product for Windows and OS X which
> after 30 days provides some, not all the functions, of their commercial
> product.  In other words, the trial version after 30 days, functions as
> "free" software has less functionality of the trial version, but
> remains quite useful as free software. They also contribute to the
> GnuGP project so that gpg2 can run something called OpenPGP or OpenGP
> which allows for public keys created with the trial or free version or
> other commercial products of PGP to be understood by gpg2.
>
> Individuals and companies have the right to determine the terms and
> conditions of their employment.  This means also that a person (an
> individual human or commercial entity) can freely determine when they
> will charge for services for their product and/or when they will
> contribute to open source or other community based or free effort.
>
> The obligation for everyone however is to become clearer regarding
> which licenses and commercial/non-commercial obligations or
> expectations one is agreeing to.
>
> I prefer an agreement based on a handshake.  We are all a long way from
> those days, especially as our current transactions of services span
> across the planet.  What we can do however is to clarify the terms and
> means of our relationships to one another which although challenging to
> examine and consider -- in the long run can help smooth the means for
> cooperation.
>
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