From s.harker at adfa.edu.au  Fri Nov  5 08:53:58 2010
From: s.harker at adfa.edu.au (Stephen Harker)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 10:53:58 +1100
Subject: [ydl-gen] Help with PPC Apple G5
In-Reply-To: <C8EC7F22.112CB%billy.lenox@us.army.mil>
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This reminded me of a problem I had a while back.  It is taken a while
to tack down notes and may not be relevant, but may be of some use.
At one point I had a problem with my G5 picking up the an ip number
from the dhcpserver (my ADSL modem, in this case).  This started after
some changes I made.  In the end I tracked it down to having setup
netplugd to run automatically.  When I removed netplugd from the list
of services to be run I went back to having the ip number allocated
and networking running from boot.

In the interim while I had the problem I found I could set the network
manually using wicd to select the wired connection and get an ip number.

-- 
Stephen Harker                           s.harker at adfa.edu.au
PEMS                
UNSW at ADFA

From luixgaz at gmail.com  Sun Nov  7 04:39:51 2010
From: luixgaz at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Luix_Gazta=F1aga?=)
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 20:39:51 +0100
Subject: [ydl-gen] Installation
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I have installed 5.0.2 in my imac g3 but when I boot I have a black screen
with a login . I don't have any idea to solve this situation . What do I
have to do? Any help will be welcomed.
Regards
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From ddxxlll at gmail.com  Sun Nov  7 06:54:29 2010
From: ddxxlll at gmail.com (.)
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 13:54:29 -0800
Subject: [ydl-gen] Installation
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Install gentoo

On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Luix Gazta?aga <luixgaz at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have installed 5.0.2 in my imac g3 but when I boot I have a black screen
> with a login . I don't have any idea to solve this situation . What do I
> have to do? Any help will be welcomed.
> Regards
>
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From luixgaz at gmail.com  Sun Nov  7 08:12:14 2010
From: luixgaz at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Luix_Gazta=F1aga?=)
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 00:12:14 +0100
Subject: [ydl-gen] Installation
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I would like a distro that I can see the desktop properly wihout configuring
after installing.Is gentoo like that?

2010/11/6 . <ddxxlll at gmail.com>

> Install gentoo
>
> On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Luix Gazta?aga <luixgaz at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have installed 5.0.2 in my imac g3 but when I boot I have a black screen
>> with a login . I don't have any idea to solve this situation . What do I
>> have to do? Any help will be welcomed.
>> Regards
>>
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From ddxxlll at gmail.com  Sun Nov  7 08:21:24 2010
From: ddxxlll at gmail.com (.)
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 15:21:24 -0800
Subject: [ydl-gen] Installation
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Lol no

On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Luix Gazta?aga <luixgaz at gmail.com> wrote:

> I would like a distro that I can see the desktop properly wihout
> configuring after installing.Is gentoo like that?
>
> 2010/11/6 . <ddxxlll at gmail.com>
>
> Install gentoo
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Luix Gazta?aga <luixgaz at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I have installed 5.0.2 in my imac g3 but when I boot I have a black
>>> screen with a login . I don't have any idea to solve this situation . What
>>> do I have to do? Any help will be welcomed.
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> yellowdog-general mailing list - yellowdog-general at lists.fixstars.com
>>> Unsuscribe info:
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>>
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From luixgaz at gmail.com  Sun Nov  7 08:35:10 2010
From: luixgaz at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Luix_Gazta=F1aga?=)
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 00:35:10 +0100
Subject: [ydl-gen] Installation
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What is Lol?. Is there a distro easy to install without being a geek? I
would like an installation without being a nightmare.Today I have spent  the
whole day  installing the  bloody Yellow Dog  without success.

2010/11/7 . <ddxxlll at gmail.com>

> Lol no
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Luix Gazta?aga <luixgaz at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I would like a distro that I can see the desktop properly wihout
>> configuring after installing.Is gentoo like that?
>>
>> 2010/11/6 . <ddxxlll at gmail.com>
>>
>> Install gentoo
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Luix Gazta?aga <luixgaz at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have installed 5.0.2 in my imac g3 but when I boot I have a black
>>>> screen with a login . I don't have any idea to solve this situation . What
>>>> do I have to do? Any help will be welcomed.
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> yellowdog-general mailing list - yellowdog-general at lists.fixstars.com
>>>> Unsuscribe info:
>>>> http://lists.fixstars.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
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From ddxxlll at gmail.com  Sun Nov  7 08:48:24 2010
From: ddxxlll at gmail.com (.)
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 15:48:24 -0800
Subject: [ydl-gen] Installation
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Not on a POWERPC based cpu.
Powerpc arcetecture is only used by older macs.
Any x86 or x64 based distro will be easier.

Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and all other pre-compiled linux is easir.
Gentoo you compile it yourself, and its a 11/10 on how hard it is to
install.
You have to script a compiler to compile the kernal then compiles all the
sources onto it. Takes 3 days man.

Lol means laugh out loud.
Get a x86 or x64 computer (all new macs and windows)

On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Luix Gazta?aga <luixgaz at gmail.com> wrote:

> What is Lol?. Is there a distro easy to install without being a geek? I
> would like an installation without being a nightmare.Today I have spent  the
> whole day  installing the  bloody Yellow Dog  without success.
>
> 2010/11/7 . <ddxxlll at gmail.com>
>
> Lol no
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Luix Gazta?aga <luixgaz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I would like a distro that I can see the desktop properly wihout
>>> configuring after installing.Is gentoo like that?
>>>
>>> 2010/11/6 . <ddxxlll at gmail.com>
>>>
>>> Install gentoo
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Luix Gazta?aga <luixgaz at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have installed 5.0.2 in my imac g3 but when I boot I have a black
>>>>> screen with a login . I don't have any idea to solve this situation . What
>>>>> do I have to do? Any help will be welcomed.
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> yellowdog-general mailing list - yellowdog-general at lists.fixstars.com
>>>>> Unsuscribe info:
>>>>> http://lists.fixstars.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general
>>>>> HINT: to Google archives, try  '&lt;keywords> site:us.fixstars.com'
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
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From luixgaz at gmail.com  Sun Nov  7 09:18:31 2010
From: luixgaz at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Luix_Gazta=F1aga?=)
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 01:18:31 +0100
Subject: [ydl-gen] Installation
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The thing is that I have an old imac and before throwing to the trash I
would like to run any  Linux distro in a rather easy way ( without using
terminal). Is that possible without  getting frustrated?.I have tried,
kubuntu 10.10, xubuntu 10.10, debian 5.0,,ubuntu 8.04,,ubuntu 6.10 . I have
a similar situation to Yellow Dog with Debian but I can't reach the desktop.
Linux will be free software but it is not user friendly.

2010/11/7 . <ddxxlll at gmail.com>

> Not on a POWERPC based cpu.
> Powerpc arcetecture is only used by older macs.
> Any x86 or x64 based distro will be easier.
>
> Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and all other pre-compiled linux is easir.
> Gentoo you compile it yourself, and its a 11/10 on how hard it is to
> install.
> You have to script a compiler to compile the kernal then compiles all the
> sources onto it. Takes 3 days man.
>
> Lol means laugh out loud.
> Get a x86 or x64 computer (all new macs and windows)
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Luix Gazta?aga <luixgaz at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> What is Lol?. Is there a distro easy to install without being a geek? I
>> would like an installation without being a nightmare.Today I have spent  the
>> whole day  installing the  bloody Yellow Dog  without success.
>>
>> 2010/11/7 . <ddxxlll at gmail.com>
>>
>> Lol no
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Luix Gazta?aga <luixgaz at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would like a distro that I can see the desktop properly wihout
>>>> configuring after installing.Is gentoo like that?
>>>>
>>>> 2010/11/6 . <ddxxlll at gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>> Install gentoo
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Luix Gazta?aga <luixgaz at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have installed 5.0.2 in my imac g3 but when I boot I have a black
>>>>>> screen with a login . I don't have any idea to solve this situation . What
>>>>>> do I have to do? Any help will be welcomed.
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> yellowdog-general mailing list - yellowdog-general at lists.fixstars.com
>>>>>> Unsuscribe info:
>>>>>> http://lists.fixstars.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
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From ppc.addon at gmail.com  Sun Nov  7 08:33:58 2010
From: ppc.addon at gmail.com (nello martuscielli)
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 00:33:58 +0100
Subject: [ydl-gen] Installation
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On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 12:21 AM, . <ddxxlll at gmail.com> wrote:
> Lol no
>
> On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Luix Gazta?aga <luixgaz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I would like a distro that I can see the desktop properly wihout
>> configuring after installing.Is gentoo like that?
>>


go to Ubuntu

--
Power Mac G4 AGP 450MHz - CRUX PPC (32bit)

From luixgaz at gmail.com  Sun Nov  7 09:47:35 2010
From: luixgaz at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Luix_Gazta=F1aga?=)
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 01:47:35 +0100
Subject: [ydl-gen] Installation
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I have tried and it doesn't work.There is a bug with ubuntu 10.10 because it
can't be burnt on a cd I I can't use dvd.All ubuntu releases I have tried
don't work.

2010/11/7 nello martuscielli <ppc.addon at gmail.com>

> On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 12:21 AM, . <ddxxlll at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Lol no
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Luix Gazta?aga <luixgaz at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I would like a distro that I can see the desktop properly wihout
> >> configuring after installing.Is gentoo like that?
> >>
>
>
> go to Ubuntu
>
> --
> Power Mac G4 AGP 450MHz - CRUX PPC (32bit)
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From dcenteno at ydl.net  Sun Nov  7 10:35:37 2010
From: dcenteno at ydl.net (Derick Centeno)
Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2010 21:35:37 -0400
Subject: [ydl-gen] Installation
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On Sat, 6 Nov 2010 20:39:51 +0100
Luix Gazta?aga <luixgaz at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have installed 5.0.2 in my imac g3 but when I boot I have a
> black screen with a login . I don't have any idea to solve
> this situation . What do I have to do? Any help will be
> welcomed. Regards

Hi Luix,

A few questions:
Did you partition your internal hard drive for both OS X and YDL?
Were you aware that even if you partitioned your internal drive
so as to prepare to install only YDL, you had to use Apple's Disk
Utility booting from the Apple Install Disk to wipe the entire
drive so that it is selected (within Disk Utility as Untitled or
Free Space).  Once this is completed then you can boot from the
YDL install DVD so that Anaconda (the software which installs
YDL) can then build the Linux ext3 filesystem on top of the
partition layer prepared by Apple's Disk Utility?

If however you chose to maintain both OS X and YDL on the same
internal drive you still had to boot from the original Apple
Install DVD and run Disk Utility from within the Apple Install
DVD because only Disk Utility can build the partition structure
for both Apple OS X and the partition necessary for YDL -- at
the same time!  

The blank or non-working screen you report appears to be
something which occurs, unless memory fails me, when the ext3
partition filesystem wasn't created properly and then YDL of
course cannot boot from the malformed partition.

The ext3 filesystem is the standard file structure for all Linux
variants including Ubuntu, Debian and others.  Unfortunately,
building a Linux system on a PowerPC was easier years ago when
Terra Soft Solutions the original designers of YDL existed.  

Although they were a commercial entity they provided a great
deal of support to users of PowerPC systems, however back in
those years, they were making money.  Unfortunately for you,
they no longer exist and the engineering talent went with them.
I'm an old time YDL user who picked up some skills across the
years, but I'm running YDL from a G4 laptop and I don't have the
resources to investigate the details of your difficulties from
my end.

However, if you are willing to work with me perhaps we can
help you move forward to a bootable YDL system.  Regarding the
use of YDL, I use YDL 6.2 but in the past I used every
incarnation of YDL that ever existed including from YDL 2/3
forward.  So perhaps I could be helpful in whatever quirks and
weird stuff you see, if you are willing to answer questions.

You will have to be patient as the question/answer process may
be slow as we may not be online simultaneously or even often.
However, if you are willing then I'll help as best I can.

Of course, if working through Linux is too much I can only tell
you that sometimes it really is.  Also it is true that x_86
based Linux (meaning Linux which run on Intel and compatibles)
have always had a tremendously large body of software support
which never was developed for PowerPC machines.  In practical
terms this means that when you do get YDL working you may not be
able to move any further than YDL 6.2 which is what I use.

If you want a more current version of Linux than YDL, you'll
have to switch to Fedora Linux which actively supports PowerPC
development.  Terra Soft Solutions was "eaten" by Fixstars and
Fixstars decided last year that no further development of
PowerPC based Linux would come from them.  Lest you be mislead,
Ubuntu stopped supporting PowerPC computers officially some
years ago even before Fixstars.

If you care to consider support with modern Linux which is
similar to YDL then Fedora is the best way to go.  I have great
reverance and respect for Debian but as far as the PowerPC is
concerned Debian came to develop for the PowerPC rather late and
then Ubuntu (a Debian Linux variant) decided they wanted no part
of it leaving those using PowerPC systems on their own.  That
means users like you and me trying to figure things out.

As far as trashing your PowerPC it depends on your skills and
your limits.  Not everyone is interested in research or
programming for the PowerPC processor which has the capacity to
process code at 128 bits in special modes with specially
designed programming instructions.  What interests me, I'm sure
doesn't interest everyone.

Still it's a shame to not know your computer well and not
understand what one is giving up or abandoning.

Still Linux is not easy although hanging with the Fedora
community is larger as it is current.  Also Fedora is a free
product of Red Hat Linux so you won't ever go wrong there.

Well, my email client is permanently set to recieve mail from
the YDL mail list.  If you decide to stick it out, let me know.

All the best...

From testdir at mac.com  Sun Nov  7 10:08:39 2010
From: testdir at mac.com (Dale Swanson)
Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2010 21:08:39 -0400
Subject: [ydl-gen] Installation
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I installed Yellow Dog Linux 5 on PPC G4 a while back and results were fine. Havent used it for awhile. Will get back to you tomorrow after some retrospective.

/Dale

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 6, 2010, at 20:47, Luix Gazta?aga <luixgaz at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have tried and it doesn't work.There is a bug with ubuntu 10.10 because it can't be burnt on a cd I I can't use dvd.All ubuntu releases I have tried don't work.
> 
> 2010/11/7 nello martuscielli <ppc.addon at gmail.com>
> On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 12:21 AM, . <ddxxlll at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Lol no
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Luix Gazta?aga <luixgaz at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I would like a distro that I can see the desktop properly wihout
> >> configuring after installing.Is gentoo like that?
> >>
> 
> 
> go to Ubuntu
> 
> --
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From testdir at mac.com  Fri Nov 12 11:36:58 2010
From: testdir at mac.com (Dale Swanson)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 21:36:58 -0500
Subject: [ydl-gen] Installation
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Luix Gazta?aga,

I reviewed the installation procedures and successfully installed YDL 5 on a spare Macintosh G4 tower with 1GB of RAM and a 60 GB hard drive. The GUI installation worked fine, and it booted into the Linux GUI after installation.

It may be that your system hardware is not up to the requirements of the Installation. According to "A Guide to Installing YELLOW DOG LINUX 5.0.2 for Apple PowerPC" [<ydl5.0.2_apple_guide.pdf>], the text installer "is used with systems whose graphics cards or monitors are not readily supported or systems with less than 200MB RAM." This may limit your GUI options after installation as well. One alternative would be to try a YDL Linux 4 release, though it may be less secure and robust.

If your hardware choices are limited Linux may still be a viable option, but it does require time and effort to perform usefully.  Even so, I have found the challenge worthwhile.

Regards,
Dale


On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:18 PM, Luix Gazta?aga wrote:

> The thing is that I have an old imac and before throwing to the trash I would like to run any  Linux distro in a rather easy way ( without using terminal). Is that possible without  getting frustrated?.I have tried, kubuntu 10.10, xubuntu 10.10, debian 5.0,,ubuntu 8.04,,ubuntu 6.10 . I have a similar situation to Yellow Dog with Debian but I can't reach the desktop. Linux will be free software but it is not user friendly.
> 
> 2010/11/7 . <ddxxlll at gmail.com>
> Not on a POWERPC based cpu.
> Powerpc arcetecture is only used by older macs.
> Any x86 or x64 based distro will be easier.
> 
> Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and all other pre-compiled linux is easir.
> Gentoo you compile it yourself, and its a 11/10 on how hard it is to install.
> You have to script a compiler to compile the kernal then compiles all the sources onto it. Takes 3 days man.
> 
> Lol means laugh out loud.
> Get a x86 or x64 computer (all new macs and windows)
> 
> 
> On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Luix Gazta?aga <luixgaz at gmail.com> wrote:
> What is Lol?. Is there a distro easy to install without being a geek? I would like an installation without being a nightmare.Today I have spent  the whole day  installing the  bloody Yellow Dog  without success.
> 
> 2010/11/7 . <ddxxlll at gmail.com>
> 
> Lol no
> 
> 
> On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Luix Gazta?aga <luixgaz at gmail.com> wrote:
> I would like a distro that I can see the desktop properly wihout configuring after installing.Is gentoo like that?
> 
> 2010/11/6 . <ddxxlll at gmail.com>
> 
> Install gentoo
> 
> On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Luix Gazta?aga <luixgaz at gmail.com> wrote:
> I have installed 5.0.2 in my imac g3 but when I boot I have a black screen with a login . I don't have any idea to solve this situation . What do I have to do? Any help will be welcomed.
> Regards
> 
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Hello,
Thanks for the emails I have received.Thanks Derick Centeno and Dale
Swanson. Well, the first installation I didn't use the disk utility to
format the hard drive.I use the cds ( I can't use dvds)directly. Afterwards
I have tried with two live cds :Fedora 8 and ubuntu 5.10 The installations
haven`t worked. Yesterday I tried using the disk utility and reinstalling
YDL 5.0.2 and I don't know why the installation was in text mode.After more
than an hour the installation was completed but in the first boot a login
was required. During the installation the only login I created was the root
and I gave the computer such a username . He dismissed it and he wanted to
change my root password. I have read the install guide that Dale mentioned.I
think I am in text mode and don't  know how to change to graphic mode and
launch the desktop. Perhaps I haven't launch a package called X. I don't
know. My computer features are these:
Imac
PowerPc  G3, 500 MHz, 256 Kb cach?.1Gb Sdram and AGP 2X
Hard drive:20 Gb
Graphic card:ATI RAGE 128 Pro with 16 Mb Sdram
Cd-RW device

I am disappointed after so many attempts in different distros. Any help
would be appreciated
Regards

2010/11/12 Dale Swanson <testdir at mac.com>

> Luix Gazta?aga,
>
> I reviewed the installation procedures and successfully installed YDL 5 on
> a spare Macintosh G4 tower with 1GB of RAM and a 60 GB hard drive. The GUI
> installation worked fine, and it booted into the Linux GUI after
> installation.
>
> It may be that your system hardware is not up to the requirements of the
> Installation. According to "A Guide to Installing YELLOW DOG LINUX 5.0.2 for
> Apple PowerPC" [<ydl5.0.2_apple_guide.pdf>], the text installer "is used
> with systems whose graphics cards or monitors are not readily supported or
> systems with less than 200MB RAM." This may limit your GUI options after
> installation as well. One alternative would be to try a YDL Linux 4 release,
> though it may be less secure and robust.
>
> If your hardware choices are limited Linux may still be a viable option,
> but it does require time and effort to perform usefully.  Even so, I have
> found the challenge worthwhile.
>
> Regards,
> Dale
>
>
>
> On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:18 PM, Luix Gazta?aga wrote:
>
> The thing is that I have an old imac and before throwing to the trash I
> would like to run any  Linux distro in a rather easy way ( without using
> terminal). Is that possible without  getting frustrated?.I have tried,
> kubuntu 10.10, xubuntu 10.10, debian 5.0,,ubuntu 8.04,,ubuntu 6.10 . I have
> a similar situation to Yellow Dog with Debian but I can't reach the desktop.
> Linux will be free software but it is not user friendly.
>
> 2010/11/7 . <ddxxlll at gmail.com>
>
>> Not on a POWERPC based cpu.
>> Powerpc arcetecture is only used by older macs.
>> Any x86 or x64 based distro will be easier.
>>
>> Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and all other pre-compiled linux is easir.
>> Gentoo you compile it yourself, and its a 11/10 on how hard it is to
>> install.
>> You have to script a compiler to compile the kernal then compiles all the
>> sources onto it. Takes 3 days man.
>>
>> Lol means laugh out loud.
>> Get a x86 or x64 computer (all new macs and windows)
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Luix Gazta?aga <luixgaz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> What is Lol?. Is there a distro easy to install without being a geek? I
>>> would like an installation without being a nightmare.Today I have spent  the
>>> whole day  installing the  bloody Yellow Dog  without success.
>>>
>>> 2010/11/7 . <ddxxlll at gmail.com>
>>>
>>> Lol no
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Luix Gazta?aga <luixgaz at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I would like a distro that I can see the desktop properly wihout
>>>>> configuring after installing.Is gentoo like that?
>>>>>
>>>>> 2010/11/6 . <ddxxlll at gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Install gentoo
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Luix Gazta?aga <luixgaz at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have installed 5.0.2 in my imac g3 but when I boot I have a black
>>>>>>> screen with a login . I don't have any idea to solve this situation . What
>>>>>>> do I have to do? Any help will be welcomed.
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> yellowdog-general mailing list -
>>>>>>> yellowdog-general at lists.fixstars.com
>>>>>>> Unsuscribe info:
>>>>>>> http://lists.fixstars.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general
>>>>>>> HINT: to Google archives, try  '&lt;keywords> site:us.fixstars.com'
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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From tcarlson at sharedcup.com  Sun Nov 14 01:36:05 2010
From: tcarlson at sharedcup.com (Thomas Carlson)
Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 09:36:05 -0700
Subject: [ydl-gen] Installation
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Here's a link about installing Debian on a machine like yours.  Maybe it will help.

http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=43326

Cheers, Tom
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505-603-5526
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On Nov 13, 2010, at 5:45 AM, Luix Gazta?aga wrote:

> Hello,
> Thanks for the emails I have received.Thanks Derick Centeno and Dale Swanson. Well, the first installation I didn't use the disk utility to format the hard drive.I use the cds ( I can't use dvds)directly. Afterwards I have tried with two live cds :Fedora 8 and ubuntu 5.10 The installations haven`t worked. Yesterday I tried using the disk utility and reinstalling YDL 5.0.2 and I don't know why the installation was in text mode.After more than an hour the installation was completed but in the first boot a login was required. During the installation the only login I created was the root and I gave the computer such a username . He dismissed it and he wanted to change my root password. I have read the install guide that Dale mentioned.I think I am in text mode and don't  know how to change to graphic mode and launch the desktop. Perhaps I haven't launch a package called X. I don't know. My computer features are these:
> Imac
> PowerPc  G3, 500 MHz, 256 Kb cach?.1Gb Sdram and AGP 2X
> Hard drive:20 Gb
> Graphic card:ATI RAGE 128 Pro with 16 Mb Sdram
> Cd-RW device
> 
> I am disappointed after so many attempts in different distros. Any help would be appreciated
> Regards
> 
> 2010/11/12 Dale Swanson <testdir at mac.com>
> Luix Gazta?aga,
> 
> I reviewed the installation procedures and successfully installed YDL 5 on a spare Macintosh G4 tower with 1GB of RAM and a 60 GB hard drive. The GUI installation worked fine, and it booted into the Linux GUI after installation.
> 
> It may be that your system hardware is not up to the requirements of the Installation. According to "A Guide to Installing YELLOW DOG LINUX 5.0.2 for Apple PowerPC" [<ydl5.0.2_apple_guide.pdf>], the text installer "is used with systems whose graphics cards or monitors are not readily supported or systems with less than 200MB RAM." This may limit your GUI options after installation as well. One alternative would be to try a YDL Linux 4 release, though it may be less secure and robust.
> 
> If your hardware choices are limited Linux may still be a viable option, but it does require time and effort to perform usefully.  Even so, I have found the challenge worthwhile.
> 
> Regards,
> Dale
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:18 PM, Luix Gazta?aga wrote:
> 
>> The thing is that I have an old imac and before throwing to the trash I would like to run any  Linux distro in a rather easy way ( without using terminal). Is that possible without  getting frustrated?.I have tried, kubuntu 10.10, xubuntu 10.10, debian 5.0,,ubuntu 8.04,,ubuntu 6.10 . I have a similar situation to Yellow Dog with Debian but I can't reach the desktop. Linux will be free software but it is not user friendly.
>> 
>> 2010/11/7 . <ddxxlll at gmail.com>
>> Not on a POWERPC based cpu.
>> Powerpc arcetecture is only used by older macs.
>> Any x86 or x64 based distro will be easier.
>> 
>> Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and all other pre-compiled linux is easir.
>> Gentoo you compile it yourself, and its a 11/10 on how hard it is to install.
>> You have to script a compiler to compile the kernal then compiles all the sources onto it. Takes 3 days man.
>> 
>> Lol means laugh out loud.
>> Get a x86 or x64 computer (all new macs and windows)
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Luix Gazta?aga <luixgaz at gmail.com> wrote:
>> What is Lol?. Is there a distro easy to install without being a geek? I would like an installation without being a nightmare.Today I have spent  the whole day  installing the  bloody Yellow Dog  without success.
>> 
>> 2010/11/7 . <ddxxlll at gmail.com>
>> 
>> Lol no
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Luix Gazta?aga <luixgaz at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I would like a distro that I can see the desktop properly wihout configuring after installing.Is gentoo like that?
>> 
>> 2010/11/6 . <ddxxlll at gmail.com>
>> 
>> Install gentoo
>> 
>> On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Luix Gazta?aga <luixgaz at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I have installed 5.0.2 in my imac g3 but when I boot I have a black screen with a login . I don't have any idea to solve this situation . What do I have to do? Any help will be welcomed.
>> Regards
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