total newb question (Ed)
yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
Mon, 23 Dec 2002 13:42:51 -0500
here is yellow dog's page on it:
http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/support/solutions/general/mouseemu.shtml
one of the major complaints i have with the support files on ydl's site
is that **nothing** is dated. while not a problem in this case it does
call into doubt the usefulness of many tips.
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> 1. RE: apt-get in YDL 2.3 (Brett Brewer)
> 2. failing when attempting to update ibook video via fix (Ed)
> 3. total newb question (Ed)
> 4. CD/Installation/Everything problems (Michael Richardson)
> 5. Re: CD/Installation/Everything problems (Michael Richardson)
> 6. Re: CD/Installation/Everything problems (ed)
> 7. Re: CD/Installation/Everything problems (Joe Villari)
> 8. Re: CD/Installation/Everything problems (Lowell Premer)
> 9. Re: CD/Installation/Everything problems (Michael Richardson)
> 10. network install (Josh Ostrow)
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> Message: 1
> From: "Brett Brewer" <brett@brettbrewer.com>
> To: <yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com>
> Subject: RE: apt-get in YDL 2.3
> Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 14:53:23 -0500
> Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
>
> You need to run "apt-get update packagename" where packagname is the
> name of
> the package you want to update. If you don't include a package name,
> apt-get
> will do something, but I'm not sure what.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: yellowdog-newbie-admin@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> [mailto:yellowdog-newbie-admin@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com]On Behalf
> Of
> Rob LeFebvre
> Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 12:45 AM
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> Cc: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> Subject: apt-get in YDL 2.3
>
>
> Hi all!
>
> Trying to update everything here in an attempt to learn how. I've run
> apt-get
> update, and I get the following error:
>
> rpmdb: region error detected; run recovery.
> error: db3 error(-30987) from dbenv->open: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal
> error, run
> data base recovery
> error: cannot open Packages index using db3 - (-30987)
> E: could not open RPM database:cannot open Packages index using db3 -
> (-30987)
>
>
> Any idea on how to recover a database? Which database?
> Thanks!
> Rob
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> --
> Sent from the Linux Box of Rob LeFebvre
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> Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 15:46:44 -0500
> Subject: failing when attempting to update ibook video via fix
> Cc: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> From: Ed <ed@throughbeingcool.org>
> Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
>
> trying to update ibook video fix (packages here:
> http://stage.terraplex.com/~dburcaw/newibook/)
>
> get the following error message when attempting to run
> kernel-2.4.20-0.7d.ppc.rpm
>
> error: failed dependencies:
> modutils >= 2.4.18 is needed by kernel-2.4.20-0.7d
> mkinitrd >= 3.4.13 is needed by kernel-2.4.20-0.7d
>
> any ideas what this means? (total newb here. thanks.)
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 15:51:09 -0500
> Subject: total newb question
> From: Ed <ed@throughbeingcool.org>
> To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
>
> how do i emulate the right-click in ydl?
>
>
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> Message: 4
> From: "Michael Richardson" <mtrichardson@ctcweb.net>
> To: <yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com>
> Subject: CD/Installation/Everything problems
> Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 04:44:45 -0700
> Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
>
> Okay. Here's the deal.
> I've got a G3-Lombard PowerBook that I'm trying to put YellowDog on.
> The
> main problem arises in that I can't get the CD to boot- the folder
> needs to
> be blessed. I want to wipe out the Mac OS and just run fully
> YellowDog.
> How do I do that since the CD won't boot? Is it possible?
>
> Oh, I also accidently moved the ROM file around (don't ask) and so now
> I
> can't get into the OS... any advice on how to get past that problem?
>
> I bought the PowerBook on eBay a while back, so I don't have any system
> disks. Also, my only access to a burner is with my Windows machine-
> hence
> the main problem making the CD bootable in Mac.
>
> Does anyone have any ideas or help? I guess my basic questions are, is
> there any way I can start the YellowDog installation (with no worries
> about
> saving the Mac partitions) without having a bootable CD or make that CD
> Mac-bootable under Windows?
>
> Thanks,
> -Michael
>
>
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>
> Message: 5
> From: "Michael Richardson" <mtrichardson@ctcweb.net>
> To: <yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com>
> Subject: Re: CD/Installation/Everything problems
> Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 04:54:59 -0700
> Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
>
> I just tried putting the contents of the install folder in the root
> directory of the CD and then going into Open Firmware. After that, I
> typed
> 'boot cd:ofboot.b". The screen flashed (my heart jumped) and then
> went back
> to the OF screen with "can't OPEN: cd:,\\yaboot". Trying the same
> thing
> with yaboot instead of ofboot.b produces the same error message
> (though no
> screen flashing).
>
> I am by no means an OF guru- the only reason I know those commands is
> from
> looking around in archives. I don't even know if they are the right
> commands- but they do produce a result.
>
> So.. any help would be greatly appreciated.
> -M
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Richardson" <mtrichardson@ctcweb.net>
> To: <yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com>
> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 4:44 AM
> Subject: CD/Installation/Everything problems
>
>
>> Okay. Here's the deal.
>> I've got a G3-Lombard PowerBook that I'm trying to put YellowDog on.
>> The
>> main problem arises in that I can't get the CD to boot- the folder
>> needs
> to
>> be blessed. I want to wipe out the Mac OS and just run fully
>> YellowDog.
>> How do I do that since the CD won't boot? Is it possible?
>>
>> Oh, I also accidently moved the ROM file around (don't ask) and so
>> now I
>> can't get into the OS... any advice on how to get past that problem?
>>
>> I bought the PowerBook on eBay a while back, so I don't have any
>> system
>> disks. Also, my only access to a burner is with my Windows machine-
>> hence
>> the main problem making the CD bootable in Mac.
>>
>> Does anyone have any ideas or help? I guess my basic questions are,
>> is
>> there any way I can start the YellowDog installation (with no worries
> about
>> saving the Mac partitions) without having a bootable CD or make that
>> CD
>> Mac-bootable under Windows?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Michael
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> yellowdog-newbie mailing list
>> yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
>> http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie
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> Message: 6
> Subject: Re: CD/Installation/Everything problems
> From: ed <ed@throughbeingcool.org>
> To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> Date: 22 Dec 2002 09:49:32 -0500
> Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
>
> i don't think anyone answers the posts on this list...
>
>
> On Sun, 2002-12-22 at 06:54, Michael Richardson wrote:
>> I just tried putting the contents of the install folder in the root
>> directory of the CD and then going into Open Firmware. After that, I
>> typed
>> 'boot cd:ofboot.b". The screen flashed (my heart jumped) and then
>> went back
>> to the OF screen with "can't OPEN: cd:,\\yaboot". Trying the same
>> thing
>> with yaboot instead of ofboot.b produces the same error message
>> (though no
>> screen flashing).
>>
>> I am by no means an OF guru- the only reason I know those commands is
>> from
>> looking around in archives. I don't even know if they are the right
>> commands- but they do produce a result.
>>
>> So.. any help would be greatly appreciated.
>> -M
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Michael Richardson" <mtrichardson@ctcweb.net>
>> To: <yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 4:44 AM
>> Subject: CD/Installation/Everything problems
>>
>>
>>> Okay. Here's the deal.
>>> I've got a G3-Lombard PowerBook that I'm trying to put YellowDog on.
>>> The
>>> main problem arises in that I can't get the CD to boot- the folder
>>> needs
>> to
>>> be blessed. I want to wipe out the Mac OS and just run fully
>>> YellowDog.
>>> How do I do that since the CD won't boot? Is it possible?
>>>
>>> Oh, I also accidently moved the ROM file around (don't ask) and so
>>> now I
>>> can't get into the OS... any advice on how to get past that problem?
>>>
>>> I bought the PowerBook on eBay a while back, so I don't have any
>>> system
>>> disks. Also, my only access to a burner is with my Windows machine-
>>> hence
>>> the main problem making the CD bootable in Mac.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any ideas or help? I guess my basic questions are,
>>> is
>>> there any way I can start the YellowDog installation (with no worries
>> about
>>> saving the Mac partitions) without having a bootable CD or make that
>>> CD
>>> Mac-bootable under Windows?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> -Michael
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> yellowdog-newbie mailing list
>>> yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
>>> http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 09:57:11 -0500
> To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> From: Joe Villari <joev_nylxs@pipeline.com>
> Subject: Re: CD/Installation/Everything problems
> Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
>
> Did you read the howto on booting with open firmware from YDL?
>
> http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/support/solutions/
> http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/support/solutions/ydl_general/
> boot_drive.shtml
>
> Joe
>
>> i don't think anyone answers the posts on this list...
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 2002-12-22 at 06:54, Michael Richardson wrote:
>>> I just tried putting the contents of the install folder in the root
>>> directory of the CD and then going into Open Firmware. After that,
>>> I typed
>>> 'boot cd:ofboot.b". The screen flashed (my heart jumped) and
>> then went back
>>> to the OF screen with "can't OPEN: cd:,\\yaboot". Trying the same
>>> thing
>>> with yaboot instead of ofboot.b produces the same error message
>>> (though no
>>> screen flashing).
>>>
>>> I am by no means an OF guru- the only reason I know those commands
>>> is from
>>> looking around in archives. I don't even know if they are the right
>>> commands- but they do produce a result.
>>>
>>> So.. any help would be greatly appreciated.
>>> -M
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Michael Richardson" <mtrichardson@ctcweb.net>
>>> To: <yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 4:44 AM
>>> Subject: CD/Installation/Everything problems
>>>
>>>
>>>> Okay. Here's the deal.
>>>> I've got a G3-Lombard PowerBook that I'm trying to put YellowDog
>>>> on. The
>>>> main problem arises in that I can't get the CD to boot- the folder
>>>> needs
>>> to
>>>> be blessed. I want to wipe out the Mac OS and just run fully
>>>> YellowDog.
>>>> How do I do that since the CD won't boot? Is it possible?
>>>>
>>>> Oh, I also accidently moved the ROM file around (don't ask) and so
>>>> now I
>>>> can't get into the OS... any advice on how to get past that problem?
>>>>
>>>> I bought the PowerBook on eBay a while back, so I don't have any
>>>> system
>>>> disks. Also, my only access to a burner is with my Windows
>> machine- hence
>>>> the main problem making the CD bootable in Mac.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have any ideas or help? I guess my basic questions
>>>> are, is
>>>> there any way I can start the YellowDog installation (with no
>>>> worries
>>> about
>>>> saving the Mac partitions) without having a bootable CD or make
>>>> that CD
>>>> Mac-bootable under Windows?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> -Michael
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> yellowdog-newbie mailing list
>>>> yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
>>>> http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-
>>>> newbie
>>>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 09:46:10 -0600 (CST)
> From: Lowell Premer <lowell@kc.rr.com>
> To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> Subject: Re: CD/Installation/Everything problems
> Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
>
> Hello, I'm answering your messages, but I don't know anything...:-P
>
> On 22 Dec 2002, ed wrote:
>
>> i don't think anyone answers the posts on this list...
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 2002-12-22 at 06:54, Michael Richardson wrote:
>>> I just tried putting the contents of the install folder in the root
>>> directory of the CD and then going into Open Firmware. After that,
>>> I typed
>>> 'boot cd:ofboot.b". The screen flashed (my heart jumped) and then
>>> went back
>>> to the OF screen with "can't OPEN: cd:,\\yaboot". Trying the same
>>> thing
>>> with yaboot instead of ofboot.b produces the same error message
>>> (though no
>>> screen flashing).
>>>
>>> I am by no means an OF guru- the only reason I know those commands
>>> is from
>>> looking around in archives. I don't even know if they are the right
>>> commands- but they do produce a result.
>>>
>>> So.. any help would be greatly appreciated.
>>> -M
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Michael Richardson" <mtrichardson@ctcweb.net>
>>> To: <yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 4:44 AM
>>> Subject: CD/Installation/Everything problems
>>>
>>>
>>>> Okay. Here's the deal.
>>>> I've got a G3-Lombard PowerBook that I'm trying to put YellowDog
>>>> on. The
>>>> main problem arises in that I can't get the CD to boot- the folder
>>>> needs
>>> to
>>>> be blessed. I want to wipe out the Mac OS and just run fully
>>>> YellowDog.
>>>> How do I do that since the CD won't boot? Is it possible?
>>>>
>>>> Oh, I also accidently moved the ROM file around (don't ask) and so
>>>> now I
>>>> can't get into the OS... any advice on how to get past that problem?
>>>>
>>>> I bought the PowerBook on eBay a while back, so I don't have any
>>>> system
>>>> disks. Also, my only access to a burner is with my Windows
>>>> machine- hence
>>>> the main problem making the CD bootable in Mac.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have any ideas or help? I guess my basic questions
>>>> are, is
>>>> there any way I can start the YellowDog installation (with no
>>>> worries
>>> about
>>>> saving the Mac partitions) without having a bootable CD or make
>>>> that CD
>>>> Mac-bootable under Windows?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> -Michael
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> yellowdog-newbie mailing list
>>>> yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
>>>> http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-
>>>> newbie
>>>
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> Message: 9
> From: "Michael Richardson" <mtrichardson@ctcweb.net>
> To: <yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com>
> Subject: Re: CD/Installation/Everything problems
> Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 11:16:18 -0700
> Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
>
> Now why couldn't I find that before...
>
> Alright, so that looks like it'll work perfectly. Now, the problem is
> getting into Mac OS. Remember, I moved my ROM file about <coughcough>.
> Amazingly enough, I have it on a CD. So, I either need to find a way
> to
> copy it from the CD to my system folder or tell Firmware to look on
> the Mac
> desktop (where the moved ROM file is). Or something else.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Villari" <joev_nylxs@pipeline.com>
> To: <yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com>
> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 7:57 AM
> Subject: Re: CD/Installation/Everything problems
>
>
>> Did you read the howto on booting with open firmware from YDL?
>>
>> http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/support/solutions/
>>
> http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/support/solutions/ydl_general/
> boot_drive.shtml
>>
>> Joe
>>
>>> i don't think anyone answers the posts on this list...
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, 2002-12-22 at 06:54, Michael Richardson wrote:
>>>> I just tried putting the contents of the install folder in the root
>>>> directory of the CD and then going into Open Firmware. After that,
>>>> I
> typed
>>>> 'boot cd:ofboot.b". The screen flashed (my heart jumped) and
>>> then went back
>>>> to the OF screen with "can't OPEN: cd:,\\yaboot". Trying the same
> thing
>>>> with yaboot instead of ofboot.b produces the same error message
> (though no
>>>> screen flashing).
>>>>
>>>> I am by no means an OF guru- the only reason I know those commands
>>>> is
> from
>>>> looking around in archives. I don't even know if they are the right
>>>> commands- but they do produce a result.
>>>>
>>>> So.. any help would be greatly appreciated.
>>>> -M
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Michael Richardson" <mtrichardson@ctcweb.net>
>>>> To: <yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 4:44 AM
>>>> Subject: CD/Installation/Everything problems
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Okay. Here's the deal.
>>>>> I've got a G3-Lombard PowerBook that I'm trying to put YellowDog
>>>>> on.
> The
>>>>> main problem arises in that I can't get the CD to boot- the folder
> needs
>>>> to
>>>>> be blessed. I want to wipe out the Mac OS and just run fully
> YellowDog.
>>>>> How do I do that since the CD won't boot? Is it possible?
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, I also accidently moved the ROM file around (don't ask) and so
> now I
>>>>> can't get into the OS... any advice on how to get past that
>>>>> problem?
>>>>>
>>>>> I bought the PowerBook on eBay a while back, so I don't have any
> system
>>>>> disks. Also, my only access to a burner is with my Windows
>>> machine- hence
>>>>> the main problem making the CD bootable in Mac.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone have any ideas or help? I guess my basic questions
>>>>> are,
> is
>>>>> there any way I can start the YellowDog installation (with no
> worries
>>>> about
>>>>> saving the Mac partitions) without having a bootable CD or make
>>>>> that
> CD
>>>>> Mac-bootable under Windows?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> -Michael
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> yellowdog-newbie mailing list
>>>>> yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
>>>>>
> http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie
>>>>
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> Message: 10
> Subject: network install
> From: Josh Ostrow <ydlnewbie@joshostrow.com>
> To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> Organization:
> Date: 22 Dec 2002 13:45:16 -0500
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> I have a powerbook g4. It has only a cd/dvd rom drive. I do not have
> access to a cd writer. Is there a way to install ydl with this
> configuration. I know you can install suse just by downloading an
> install file, booting to the open firmware screen, selecting that file
> to boot to, and then proceeding with a network install. Is there a
> similar way to do it with ydl?
>
> Thanks,
> Josh
>
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> I have a powerbook g4. It has only a cd/dvd rom drive. I do not have
> access to a cd writer. Is there a way to install ydl with this
> configuration. I know you can install suse just by downloading an
> install file, booting to the open firmware screen, selecting that file
> to boot to, and then proceeding with a network install. Is there a
> similar way to do it with ydl?<BR>
> <BR>
> Thanks,<BR>
> Josh
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