Re: Problem with ethernet on 15" LCD Imac

From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed Jan 1 00:28:41 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 19:28:41 EST Subject: Newbie Install Problem Message-ID: --part1_ba.3388c455.2b439039_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/31/02 1:11:20 PM, steve@proscript.co.uk writes: > > I'm trying to install YDL on a 7600/132 with a 4Gb HD and 192Mb Memory. As > the install starts, I get a progress bar on "Transferring Packages" for > about 3mm (2 minutes of whirring) and then I get > > "Errors running transaction set! Please correct this manually" > > I would if I knew what it meant. > > Can anyone point me in the right direction? > > Thanks > > > Steve > I get the same problem with a 8500/150 with 296mb RAM. --part1_ba.3388c455.2b439039_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In a message dated 12/31/02 1:11:20 PM, steve@proscript.co.uk writes:

I'm trying to install YDL on a 7600/132 with a 4Gb HD and 192Mb Memory. As the install starts, I get a progress bar on "Transferring Packages" for about 3mm (2 minutes of whirring) and then I get

"Errors running transaction set! Please correct this manually"

I would if I knew what it meant.

Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Thanks

Steve

I get the same problem with a 8500/150 with 296mb RAM. --part1_ba.3388c455.2b439039_boundary-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed Jan 1 02:47:00 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Greg) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 18:47:00 -0800 Subject: Sun's JRE Message-ID: <3E1256A4.7090605@cox.net> Thanks for the tip Charles. I'll give it a look. Greg Richardson From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed Jan 1 20:23:51 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (B. Charles Reynolds) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 11:23:51 -0900 Subject: Old World Install Question In-Reply-To: <7DE5E8B5-1D1B-11D7-B66A-000A277A97D6@nosaltnetwork.com> Message-ID: On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, at 02:56 PM, Brian Alston wrote: > Hello All > > I have a PowerBook G3 Wallstreet that I want to install YDL onto. I > believe that this machine is what is known as an "Old World" > Macintosh. From what I understand, I can only install YDL onto this > machine with either OS 9 or OS X on some other partition on the > computer. My question is, does anybody know a way to install YDL onto > my Macintosh where it is the ONLY OS on my machine? In other words, so > that I don't have to use OS 9 or OS X? I have limited HD space and > don't want to waste it on an OS that I will, honestly, never use. If it is, indeed, an Old World machine, then I'm afraid you'll have to have OS9 on there. __ Charles Tired of your employer controlling your life? Find out how you can regain control and enjoy life. Check out http://www.reynet.org E-mail: charlesreynolds@mac.com From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed Jan 1 21:08:38 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Rob) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 12:08:38 -0900 Subject: MOL Hangs booting 9.2.2 Message-ID: <200301011208.38750.roblef@gci.net> Hello! Can anyone help me troubleshoot this MOL thing? I'm running YellowDog Lin= ux=20 2.3, on a Mac G3 tower. I'm trying to boot 9.2.2 through Mac On Linux (X = just=20 plain doesn't work). I'm hopeful, because I see theattached screen. I'm=20 running MOL 0.9.65. Any ideas are appreciated. Thanks, Rob I also get the following in my console: $ startmol Mac-on-Linux 0.9.65 Copyright (C) 1997-2002 Samuel Rydh Config dir: /etc/mol Data dir: /usr/share/mol/0.9.65 Loading Mac-on-Linux kernel module: /usr/local/lib/mol/0.9.65/modules/2.4.19-4a/mol.o Warning: loading /usr/local/lib/mol/0.9.65/modules/2.4.19-4a/mol.o will t= aint=20 the kernel: forced load Loading SheepNet kernel module: /usr/local/lib/mol/0.9.65/modules/2.4.19-4a/sheep.o Warning: loading /usr/local/lib/mol/0.9.65/modules/2.4.19-4a/sheep.o will= =20 taint the kernel: forced load Loading tun driver kernel module: /usr/local/lib/mol/0.9.65/modules/2.4.19-4a/tun.o Warning: loading /usr/local/lib/mol/0.9.65/modules/2.4.19-4a/tun.o will t= aint=20 the kernel: forced load Session 0. Lockfile: /var/lock/mol-0 Debugger nub disabled The session save/restore feature is disabled OF device tree: oftrees/oftree.nw Timebase frequency: 24.93 MHz 48MB RAM mapped at 0x40000000 Running in PowerPC G3 mode Using Linux keycodes Using nvram-image '/var/lib/mol/nvram.nw' Could not open '/var/lib/mol/x11.kbd' Video module 'xvideo' installed. Running on VT 8. Could not open '/var/lib/mol/console.kbd' Using usb mouse on /dev/input/mice Cache enabled for console-video Video module 'console_video' installed. MODE: 640* 480, depth 8,32 { 0.0 } Hz MODE: 800* 600, depth 15,32 { 72.1 } Hz MODE: 800* 600, depth 8,15,32 { 74.9, 89.9 } Hz MODE: 1024* 768, depth 8 { 60.0 } Hz MODE: 1024* 768, depth 8,15,32 { 70.0, 75.0 } Hz MODE: 1152* 864, depth 8,15,32 { 59.9 } Hz MODE: 1280*1024, depth 8,15,32 { 60.0 } Hz MODE: 1600*1200, depth 8,32 { 0.0 } Hz Starting in video mode 640*480, depth 32, 0.0 Hz [offs:0, rb:2560] Ethernet Interface (port 1) 'sheep-' @ FE:FD:DE:AD:BE:EF DHCP nameserver exported: 208.138.130.16 Ethernet Interface (port 2) 'tun-' @ 00:00:0D:EA:DB:EE Using /dev/dsp for sound output HFS images/moldisk.i MOL 0 MB HFS /dev/hda2 bootstrap 10 MB ----> /dev/hda2 might be a boot-strap partition. HFS+ /dev/hdb6 Gee, Three 14314 MB HFS+ /dev/hdb7 Server Stuff 14314 MB No volumes found in '/dev/sda' No volumes found in '/dev/sdb' Searching /dev/hdb7 for a 'Mac OS ROM' file /dev/hdb7: No 'Mac OS ROM' file found Loading 'System Folder/Mac OS ROM' from /dev/hdb6 Mapping GC at 80800000 of_canon: /pci/@d/pci-ata@1/ata-4@0/disk@0 -- '' **** of_call_method: cmd 'get-key-map' ih: 00000001 (2/2) Args: *** nop_'interpret' [1,2] 401007B2 ************ WARNING, phandle =3D=3D 0 *********** of_open: node '/pci/pci-bridge/MacOnLinuxVideo:0' missing extra vclaim, virt: 009B1000, size 2F000 **** of_call_method: cmd 'get-key-map' ih: 00000001 (2/2) Args: of_open: node '/pci/@d/pci-ata@1/ata-4@0/disk@0:5,\\:bear' missing **** of_call_method: cmd 'read' ih: 00106E10 (4/2) Args: 00000200 00116C= E0 *** nop_'close' [1,0] 00106E10 Replacing old translation (EA 80816000, old-phys 0081E000) Fixing timer calibration (000080AE) ********* of_quiesce ********* <*> kOpenCommand From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed Jan 1 21:17:03 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Rob) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 12:17:03 -0900 Subject: MOL Hangs booting 9.2.2 Message-ID: <200301011208.38750.roblef@gci.net> --------------Boundary-00=_FG02SJANL8SD667WT26Z Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Forgot the screenshot:=20 -- Hello! Can anyone help me troubleshoot this MOL thing? I'm running YellowDog Lin= ux=20 2.3, on a Mac G3 tower. I'm trying to boot 9.2.2 through Mac On Linux (X = just=20 plain doesn't work). I'm hopeful, because I see theattached screen. I'm=20 running MOL 0.9.65. Any ideas are appreciated. Thanks, Rob I also get the following in my console: $ startmol Mac-on-Linux 0.9.65 Copyright (C) 1997-2002 Samuel Rydh Config dir: /etc/mol Data dir: /usr/share/mol/0.9.65 Loading Mac-on-Linux kernel module: /usr/local/lib/mol/0.9.65/modules/2.4.19-4a/mol.o Warning: loading /usr/local/lib/mol/0.9.65/modules/2.4.19-4a/mol.o will t= aint=20 the kernel: forced load Loading SheepNet kernel module: /usr/local/lib/mol/0.9.65/modules/2.4.19-4a/sheep.o Warning: loading /usr/local/lib/mol/0.9.65/modules/2.4.19-4a/sheep.o will= =20 taint the kernel: forced load Loading tun driver kernel module: /usr/local/lib/mol/0.9.65/modules/2.4.19-4a/tun.o Warning: loading /usr/local/lib/mol/0.9.65/modules/2.4.19-4a/tun.o will t= aint=20 the kernel: forced load Session 0. Lockfile: /var/lock/mol-0 Debugger nub disabled The session save/restore feature is disabled OF device tree: oftrees/oftree.nw Timebase frequency: 24.93 MHz 48MB RAM mapped at 0x40000000 Running in PowerPC G3 mode Using Linux keycodes Using nvram-image '/var/lib/mol/nvram.nw' Could not open '/var/lib/mol/x11.kbd' Video module 'xvideo' installed. Running on VT 8. Could not open '/var/lib/mol/console.kbd' Using usb mouse on /dev/input/mice Cache enabled for console-video Video module 'console_video' installed. MODE: 640* 480, depth 8,32 { 0.0 } Hz MODE: 800* 600, depth 15,32 { 72.1 } Hz MODE: 800* 600, depth 8,15,32 { 74.9, 89.9 } Hz MODE: 1024* 768, depth 8 { 60.0 } Hz MODE: 1024* 768, depth 8,15,32 { 70.0, 75.0 } Hz MODE: 1152* 864, depth 8,15,32 { 59.9 } Hz MODE: 1280*1024, depth 8,15,32 { 60.0 } Hz MODE: 1600*1200, depth 8,32 { 0.0 } Hz Starting in video mode 640*480, depth 32, 0.0 Hz [offs:0, rb:2560] Ethernet Interface (port 1) 'sheep-' @ FE:FD:DE:AD:BE:EF DHCP nameserver exported: 208.138.130.16 Ethernet Interface (port 2) 'tun-' @ 00:00:0D:EA:DB:EE Using /dev/dsp for sound output HFS images/moldisk.i MOL 0 MB HFS /dev/hda2 bootstrap 10 MB ----> /dev/hda2 might be a boot-strap partition. HFS+ /dev/hdb6 Gee, Three 14314 MB HFS+ /dev/hdb7 Server Stuff 14314 MB No volumes found in '/dev/sda' No volumes found in '/dev/sdb' Searching /dev/hdb7 for a 'Mac OS ROM' file /dev/hdb7: No 'Mac OS ROM' file found Loading 'System Folder/Mac OS ROM' from /dev/hdb6 Mapping GC at 80800000 of_canon: /pci/@d/pci-ata@1/ata-4@0/disk@0 -- '' **** of_call_method: cmd 'get-key-map' ih: 00000001 (2/2) Args: *** nop_'interpret' [1,2] 401007B2 ************ WARNING, phandle =3D=3D 0 *********** of_open: node '/pci/pci-bridge/MacOnLinuxVideo:0' missing extra vclaim, virt: 009B1000, size 2F000 **** of_call_method: cmd 'get-key-map' ih: 00000001 (2/2) Args: of_open: node '/pci/@d/pci-ata@1/ata-4@0/disk@0:5,\\:bear' missing **** of_call_method: cmd 'read' ih: 00106E10 (4/2) Args: 00000200 00116C= E0 *** nop_'close' [1,0] 00106E10 Replacing old translation (EA 80816000, old-phys 0081E000) Fixing timer calibration (000080AE) ********* of_quiesce ********* <*> kOpenCommand 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I've recently put KDE on my iMac through Fink and XDar= win,=20 and I see a newer-looking KDE startup screen and it looks like it's KDE 3= =2E07 =20 (KDE 3.1 beta).. I look at my LInux box (G3 tower), and it says in the control center that= this=20 is KDE 3.0.1, running on LInux 2.4.19-4a. How do I get the 3.07 KDE over on this box? I've looked at the package=20 manager, and it' sdaunting. I don't want to mess up too much (after 3=20 re-installs due to my ignorance, this is important to me). Any help is=20 appreciated. Rob From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed Jan 1 22:42:57 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Nigel Horne) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 22:42:57 +0000 Subject: MOL Hangs booting 9.2.2 In-Reply-To: <200301011208.38750.roblef@gci.net> References: <200301011208.38750.roblef@gci.net> Message-ID: <200301012242.57435.njh@bandsman.co.uk> On Wednesday 01 Jan 2003 9:17 pm, Rob wrote: > Forgot the screenshot: As previously reported here, other people are seeing the same problem on OS/X, and no-one from Terrasoft has been forthcoming here with a solution despite the big banner on their website that says it's working... -Nigel -- Nigel Horne. Arranger, Composer, Conductor, Typesetter. Owner of the brass band group of the Internet. ICQ#20252325 njh@bandsman.co.uk http://bandsman.co.uk From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed Jan 1 23:11:25 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Rob LeFebvre) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 14:11:25 -0900 Subject: MOL Hangs booting 9.2.2 In-Reply-To: <200301012242.57435.njh@bandsman.co.uk> Message-ID: <596F6206-1DDE-11D7-9B2B-000393709C9C@gci.net> I'm new to the list, so thanks for the notice that it's been here. i didn't see anything in the archives, but that just means I didn't look carefully enough. Anyway, what you're saying is that MOL won't work on a machine that has any OS X on it? Or that OS X won't boot in MOL? Thanks! Rob On Wednesday, January 1, 2003, at 01:42 PM, Nigel Horne wrote: > As previously reported here, other people are seeing the same problem > on OS/X, and > no-one from Terrasoft has been forthcoming here with a solution > despite the > big banner on their website that says it's working... From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu Jan 2 02:56:45 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com) Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 21:56:45 -0500 Subject: CUPS Printer Config Message-ID: I have a HP 4MP connected to me TI PowerBook via ethernet. I can't get it to print the test page using CUPS. I've selected a LPD host and have tried lpd://localhost, lpd://127.0.0.1, socket://localhost and socket://127.0.0.1 and always receive a "localhost or 127.0.0.1 is busy will retry in x seconds" error. What am I missing/doing wrong? [root@localhost spool]# ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:03:93:58:24:30 inet addr:127.0.0.1 Bcast:127.255.255.255 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:4 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:168 (168.0 b) lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:5043 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:5043 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 RX bytes:747912 (730.3 Kb) TX bytes:747912 (730.3 Kb) ppp0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol inet addr:165.247.39.36 P-t-P:168.121.1.1 Mask:255.255.255.255 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1514 Metric:1 RX packets:558 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:579 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 RX bytes:516169 (504.0 Kb) TX bytes:68452 (66.8 Kb) Thanks Joe From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu Jan 2 03:00:50 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Ruben I Safir) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 22:00:50 -0500 Subject: [hangout] CUPS Printer Config In-Reply-To: ; from joev_nylxs@pipeline.com on Wed, Jan 01, 2003 at 21:56:45 -0500 References: Message-ID: <20030101220050.A18064@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Can you ping it first? I Don't use CUPS - there have been too many problems and security upgrades. I use LPD There can be a dozen problems here, most having to do with the network. Look at your /etc/printcap file (take linux one) Ruben On 2003.01.01 21:56 joev_nylxs@pipeline.com wrote: > > I have a HP 4MP connected to me TI PowerBook via ethernet. I can't get it to > print the test page using CUPS. I've selected a LPD host and have tried > lpd://localhost, lpd://127.0.0.1, socket://localhost and socket://127.0.0.1 > and always receive a "localhost or 127.0.0.1 is busy will retry in x seconds" > error. > > What am I missing/doing wrong? > > [root@localhost spool]# ifconfig > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:03:93:58:24:30 > inet addr:127.0.0.1 Bcast:127.255.255.255 Mask:255.0.0.0 > UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:4 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 > RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:168 (168.0 b) > > lo Link encap:Local Loopback > inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 > UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 > RX packets:5043 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:5043 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 > RX bytes:747912 (730.3 Kb) TX bytes:747912 (730.3 Kb) > > ppp0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol > inet addr:165.247.39.36 P-t-P:168.121.1.1 Mask:255.255.255.255 > UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1514 Metric:1 > RX packets:558 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:579 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 > RX bytes:516169 (504.0 Kb) TX bytes:68452 (66.8 Kb) > > Thanks > Joe > ____________________________ > New Yorker Free Software Users Scene > Fair Use - > because it's either fair use or useless.... > -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu Jan 2 02:19:13 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Tomas Antonsson) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 03:19:13 +0100 Subject: No ATA100, or? Message-ID: <9627DFA5-1DF8-11D7-BF5D-0003939CC626@macnytt.com> The installation of YLD 2.3 PPC won't find any of my harddrives connected to a A-Card PCI ATA100 in my PowerMac G3 blue/white. Is there someone who knows if Linux have support for ATA100 and A-Card IDE ATA100? I can format/partion and install YLD 2.3 PPC when harddrives connected to the motherboard ATA33 but Linux won't boot after installed. What to do? Please help.. TOMAS From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu Jan 2 03:38:20 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Fred Laxton) Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 22:38:20 -0500 Subject: trouble with yd 2.3 partition on tiBook References: <20021227193926.69893.qmail@web14001.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3E13B42C.4090002@laxton.net> Did you install Jaguar before or after YDL? If you install it after YDL, it will take over the boot process. I *think* yaboot can fix it - read "man yaboot" for details. I have triple boot set up on mine, and I installed them in this order: OS 9 OS C YDL 2.3 and I get a boot menu that lets me choose which OS to boot each time, or defaults to YDL if I don't make a choice in 5 seconds. I haven't had any problems with this. I watched the video several times on the YDL site about setting up dual or triple boot, and that helped. I'm more used to lilo on x86 Linux boxes. I had display problems after waking from sleep mode, after I mucked with pmud power managements config files. I reinstalled YDL and no problems since, except that it seems that if the USB mouse is plugged in when I close the lid, that some parts of the GUI don't redraw properly in use. My solution is to unplug the USB mouse before closing the lid...and it seems to work perfectly every time. HTH, Fred sheila miguez wrote: > I'm having trouble with my yellow dog > 2.3 partition on my tiBook after rebooting > from Jaguar. > > The screen doesn't show anything booting > up, except for the first few brief lines > that quickly go away. In the normal boot > sequence, there are a few lines that appear, > and then they are cleared, and then you can > see all the things being loaded. in this > case, it doesn't get to the point where anything > is loaded. > > I've managed to get back into yd a few times > by booting from the cd, and then rebooting > back into the parition. > > A side effect of trying to boot into yd > when I go back into Jaguar is that the system > clock is set back to Dec 31, 1969. > > I haven't been able to find anything useful > in log files, but it is likely that I am not > looking in the right place. > > Another problem I had been noticing is that > when I was in yd and closed my laptop, then > reopened it, the display would not always > refresh and the curser would dissappear. > > Am I going to be able to use yellow dog > and Jaguar on this computer at the same time? > > sheila > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > -- -- Fred Laxton My contact information: http://infotechdesign.net/my_contact_information.htm Powered by Yellow Dog Linux and Mandrake Linux From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu Jan 2 04:23:59 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Kevin Mark) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 23:23:59 -0500 (EST) Subject: [hangout] CUPS Printer Config In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: How did you set up the ethernet interface? It seems to be 127.0.0.1? I dont think it can be that number as the loopback interface (lo) uses that. Most people use 192.168.0.1 or somethink like that. If your printer is hooked up via enthernet then it has an ip address. there is a computer in the printer with an ethernet card and that card (just like yours) has an IP address. and thus you should be able to ping it. to 'ping' anything you type: ping a ping just tells you if the interface is active. just like an envelope address, no two interfaces can have the same address. On Wed, 1 Jan 2003 joev_nylxs@pipeline.com wrote: > > I have a HP 4MP connected to me TI PowerBook via ethernet. I can't get it to > print the test page using CUPS. I've selected a LPD host and have tried > lpd://localhost, lpd://127.0.0.1, socket://localhost and socket://127.0.0.1 > and always receive a "localhost or 127.0.0.1 is busy will retry in x seconds" > error. > > What am I missing/doing wrong? > > [root@localhost spool]# ifconfig > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:03:93:58:24:30 > inet addr:127.0.0.1 Bcast:127.255.255.255 Mask:255.0.0.0 > UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:4 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 > RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:168 (168.0 b) > > lo Link encap:Local Loopback > inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 > UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 > RX packets:5043 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:5043 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 > RX bytes:747912 (730.3 Kb) TX bytes:747912 (730.3 Kb) > > ppp0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol > inet addr:165.247.39.36 P-t-P:168.121.1.1 Mask:255.255.255.255 > UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1514 Metric:1 > RX packets:558 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:579 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 > RX bytes:516169 (504.0 Kb) TX bytes:68452 (66.8 Kb) > > Thanks > Joe > ____________________________ > New Yorker Free Software Users Scene > Fair Use - > because it's either fair use or useless.... > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu Jan 2 04:32:45 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Ruben I Safir) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 23:32:45 -0500 Subject: [hangout] CUPS Printer Config In-Reply-To: ; from kmark@pipeline.com on Wed, Jan 01, 2003 at 23:23:59 -0500 References:

Message-ID: <20030101233245.A20234@www2.mrbrklyn.com> On 2003.01.01 23:23 Kevin Mark wrote: > > How did you set up the ethernet interface? > It seems to be 127.0.0.1? > I dont think it can be that number as the loopback interface (lo) > uses that. Most people use 192.168.0.1 or somethink like that. 12.0.0.1 is loopback 192.168. is a non-routing subnet. 12.0.0.1 should not be assigned to the device, it's the loopback -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu Jan 2 04:33:58 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Ruben I Safir) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 23:33:58 -0500 Subject: [hangout] CUPS Printer Config In-Reply-To: ; from kmark@pipeline.com on Wed, Jan 01, 2003 at 23:23:59 -0500 References:

Message-ID: <20030101233358.C20234@www2.mrbrklyn.com> not 12.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 Ruben On 2003.01.01 23:23 Kevin Mark wrote: > > How did you set up the ethernet interface? > It seems to be 127.0.0.1? > I dont think it can be that number as the loopback interface (lo) > uses that. Most people use 192.168.0.1 or somethink like that. > If your printer is hooked up via enthernet then it has an ip address. > there is a computer in the printer with an ethernet card and > that card (just like yours) has an IP address. and thus you should be able > to ping it. to 'ping' anything you type: > ping > a ping just tells you if the interface is active. just like an envelope > address, no two interfaces can have the same address. > > On Wed, 1 Jan 2003 joev_nylxs@pipeline.com wrote: > > > > > I have a HP 4MP connected to me TI PowerBook via ethernet. I can't get it to > > print the test page using CUPS. I've selected a LPD host and have tried > > lpd://localhost, lpd://127.0.0.1, socket://localhost and socket://127.0.0.1 > > and always receive a "localhost or 127.0.0.1 is busy will retry in x seconds" > > error. > > > > What am I missing/doing wrong? > > > > [root@localhost spool]# ifconfig > > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:03:93:58:24:30 > > inet addr:127.0.0.1 Bcast:127.255.255.255 Mask:255.0.0.0 > > UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > > RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > > TX packets:4 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > > collisions:0 > > RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:168 (168.0 b) > > > > lo Link encap:Local Loopback > > inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 > > UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 > > RX packets:5043 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > > TX packets:5043 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > > collisions:0 > > RX bytes:747912 (730.3 Kb) TX bytes:747912 (730.3 Kb) > > > > ppp0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol > > inet addr:165.247.39.36 P-t-P:168.121.1.1 Mask:255.255.255.255 > > UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1514 Metric:1 > > RX packets:558 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > > TX packets:579 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > > collisions:0 > > RX bytes:516169 (504.0 Kb) TX bytes:68452 (66.8 Kb) > > > > Thanks > > Joe > > ____________________________ > > New Yorker Free Software Users Scene > > Fair Use - > > because it's either fair use or useless.... > > > ____________________________ > New Yorker Free Software Users Scene > Fair Use - > because it's either fair use or useless.... > -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu Jan 2 05:00:25 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Kevin Mark) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 00:00:25 -0500 (EST) Subject: [hangout] CUPS Printer Config In-Reply-To: <20030101233245.A20234@www2.mrbrklyn.com> References:

<20030101233245.A20234@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 1 Jan 2003, Ruben I Safir wrote: > > > On 2003.01.01 23:23 Kevin Mark wrote: > > > > How did you set up the ethernet interface? > > It seems to be 127.0.0.1? > > I dont think it can be that number as the loopback interface (lo) > > uses that. Most people use 192.168.0.1 or somethink like that. > > > > 12.0.0.1 is loopback > > 192.168. is a non-routing subnet. Think is not a problem unless he has his computer and printer on a public network. I assume it is a private network. > > 12.0.0.1 should not be assigned to the device, it's the loopback That is what I said. > > > -- > __________________________ > Brooklyn Linux Solutions > __________________________ > DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com > > http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting > http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... > > 1-718-382-0585 > ____________________________ > New Yorker Free Software Users Scene > Fair Use - > because it's either fair use or useless.... > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu Jan 2 09:56:22 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Nigel Horne) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 09:56:22 +0000 Subject: MOL Hangs booting 9.2.2 In-Reply-To: <596F6206-1DDE-11D7-9B2B-000393709C9C@gci.net> References: <596F6206-1DDE-11D7-9B2B-000393709C9C@gci.net> Message-ID: <200301020956.22396.njh@bandsman.co.uk> On Wednesday 01 Jan 2003 11:11 pm, Rob LeFebvre wrote: > a machine that has any OS X on it? Or that OS X won't boot in MOL? startmol -osx gets the boot screen then quits with no error message. I posted a screen dump of the diagnostics to the list some time ago. -Nigel -- Nigel Horne. Arranger, Composer, Conductor, Typesetter. Owner of the brass band group of the Internet. ICQ#20252325 njh@bandsman.co.uk http://bandsman.co.uk From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu Jan 2 14:43:26 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (lowell) Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 08:43:26 -0600 Subject: [hangout] CUPS Printer Config References:

<20030101233245.A20234@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Message-ID: <3E14500E.8010400@kc.rr.com> Does he (you) know how to get himself an address? Use your favorite text editor to edit /etc/hosts. Give your machine a name and an IP address OTHER than the loopback address SAMPLE: (there already)> 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.localdomain (you add)> 198.162.0.1 bob'smachine I have seen places say to put the macine name on the first line as well, don't know why... HTH From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu Jan 2 14:49:16 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Beartooth) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 09:49:16 -0500 (EST) Subject: Opera 6.11 fighting Privoxy 3.0.0! Message-ID: Under 7.2, with the proxy set to 127.0.0.1 and the port to 8118, for both http and https (and unset otherwise), it has done fine ever since I first turned it on. Under 8.0 (and also YDL 2.3) I get nothing but "Access Denied" boxes. I've emptied the cache; closed & re-opened the browser; and rebooted -- all repeatedly. No soap. When Galeon had a similar problem, the solution turned out to be setting the "automatic" button on the proxy page. Try that with Opera, tell it Apply and OK -- and all it does is unset the button, reverting to what it had before. Opera has long been my favorite browser, since before I ever got linux. I've even tried (and failed, more than once) to register and pay for it. But if it keeps on much longer telling me to Click Here! in big flashing white on black letters, I'll send it to Redmond; it's making itself thoroughly unwelcome in my house. I'd a lot rather fix it than uninstall it, but how? (Just this once, please carbon direct if you have an answer; we're heading out of town, and I have to turn my subscriptions off to keep from bursting my inbox quota. Sorry about that, and TIA!) -- RR 'Beartooth' Neuswanger Double Retiree, Linuxer's Apprentice, Curmudgeon On Line Don't email HTML! see http://www.betips.net/etc/evilmail.html From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu Jan 2 15:59:09 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Tomas Antonsson) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 16:59:09 +0100 Subject: How to change resolution.. Message-ID: <213403AF-1E6B-11D7-9ADC-0003939CC626@macnytt.com> How do I change screen resolution in Debian for PPC? TOMAS From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu Jan 2 14:07:23 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Joe Villari) Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 14:07:23 +0000 Subject: [hangout] CUPS Printer Config References:

<20030101233245.A20234@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <3E14500E.8010400@kc.rr.com> Message-ID: <3E14479B.4060205@pipeline.com> I can ping my localhost [joev@localhost joev]$ ping -c 5 localhost PING localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1) from 127.0.0.1 : 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1): icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=49 usec 64 bytes from localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=149 usec 64 bytes from localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1): icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=152 usec 64 bytes from localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1): icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=71 usec 64 bytes from localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1): icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=121 usec --- localhost.localdomain ping statistics --- 5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/mdev = 0.049/0.108/0.152/0.042 ms [joev@localhost joev]$ ping -c 5 127.0.0.1 PING 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1) from 127.0.0.1 : 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=48 usec 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=153 usec 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=591 usec 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=109 usec 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=384 usec --- 127.0.0.1 ping statistics --- 5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/mdev = 0.048/0.257/0.591/0.202 ms I added 198.162.0.1 printer to /etc/hosts [joev@localhost joev]$ ping -c 5 printer connect: Network is unreachable [joev@localhost joev]$ ping -c 5 198.162.0.1 connect: Network is unreachable What does this mean in terms of setting up a printcap file or correct route through CUPs? How do I determine what address my printer is on? This is today's project ;) Thanks Joe lowell wrote: > Does he (you) know how to get himself an address? Use your favorite > text editor to edit /etc/hosts. Give your machine a name and an IP > address OTHER than the loopback address > > SAMPLE: > (there already)> 127.0.0.1 localhost > localhost.localdomain > (you add)> 198.162.0.1 bob'smachine > > I have seen places say to put the macine name on the first line as > well, don't know why... > > HTH > > > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu Jan 2 19:30:02 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Lowell Premer) Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 13:30:02 -0600 Subject: [hangout] CUPS Printer Config References:

<20030101233245.A20234@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <3E14500E.8010400@kc.rr.com> <3E14479B.4060205@pipeline.com> Message-ID: <3E14933A.3070608@kc.rr.com> I believe a ping to localhost does NOT use the ethernet card. Is the machine in question the same one on which you're sending these messages to the list? If so, are you communicating with the list via dialup or cable/dsl? Reason I wonder about this is, is the ethernet card working? (First of all, does it show a light? Look at the back of the machine where the cable plugs into the card.)If you're talking via that card then it works fosho but if you're taliking by modem it might not be. See if you can ping a known address outside; a dns server at your isp or something? Also, do I remember you saying you were connected to the printer via ethernet? Well, the editing you did in /etc/hosts doesn't assign that address to the printer, it just tells your machine that that is the address of a remote host (i.e. other machine) named "printer". Is the printer's address really 198.162.0.1? How did you find that out? Joe Villari wrote: > I can ping my localhost > > [joev@localhost joev]$ ping -c 5 localhost > PING localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1) from 127.0.0.1 : 56(84) bytes > of data. > 64 bytes from localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1): icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 > time=49 usec > 64 bytes from localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 > time=149 usec > 64 bytes from localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1): icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 > time=152 usec > 64 bytes from localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1): icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 > time=71 usec > 64 bytes from localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1): icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 > time=121 usec > > --- localhost.localdomain ping statistics --- > 5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0% packet loss > round-trip min/avg/max/mdev = 0.049/0.108/0.152/0.042 ms > > [joev@localhost joev]$ ping -c 5 127.0.0.1 > PING 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1) from 127.0.0.1 : 56(84) bytes of data. > 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=48 usec > 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=153 usec > 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=591 usec > 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=109 usec > 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=384 usec > > --- 127.0.0.1 ping statistics --- > 5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0% packet loss > round-trip min/avg/max/mdev = 0.048/0.257/0.591/0.202 ms > > I added 198.162.0.1 printer to /etc/hosts > > [joev@localhost joev]$ ping -c 5 printer > connect: Network is unreachable > > [joev@localhost joev]$ ping -c 5 198.162.0.1 > connect: Network is unreachable > > What does this mean in terms of setting up a printcap file or correct > route through CUPs? How do I determine what address my printer is on? > > This is today's project ;) > > Thanks > Joe > > > lowell wrote: > >> Does he (you) know how to get himself an address? Use your favorite >> text editor to edit /etc/hosts. Give your machine a name and an IP >> address OTHER than the loopback address >> >> SAMPLE: >> (there already)> 127.0.0.1 localhost >> localhost.localdomain >> (you add)> 198.162.0.1 bob'smachine >> >> I have seen places say to put the macine name on the first line as >> well, don't know why... >> >> HTH >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> yellowdog-newbie mailing list >> yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >> http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu Jan 2 20:29:43 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Ruben Safir) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 15:29:43 -0500 Subject: [hangout] CUPS Printer Config In-Reply-To: <3E14479B.4060205@pipeline.com> References:

<20030101233245.A20234@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <3E14500E.8010400@kc.rr.com> <3E14479B.4060205@pipeline.com> Message-ID: <20030102202943.GA4863@www2.mrbrklyn.com> Where is the printer? Ruben On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 02:07:23PM +0000, Joe Villari wrote: > > I can ping my localhost > > [joev@localhost joev]$ ping -c 5 localhost > PING localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1) from 127.0.0.1 : 56(84) bytes of > data. > 64 bytes from localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1): icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 > time=49 usec > 64 bytes from localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 > time=149 usec > 64 bytes from localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1): icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 > time=152 usec > 64 bytes from localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1): icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 > time=71 usec > 64 bytes from localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1): icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 > time=121 usec > > --- localhost.localdomain ping statistics --- > 5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0% packet loss > round-trip min/avg/max/mdev = 0.049/0.108/0.152/0.042 ms > > [joev@localhost joev]$ ping -c 5 127.0.0.1 > PING 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1) from 127.0.0.1 : 56(84) bytes of data. > 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=48 usec > 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=153 usec > 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=591 usec > 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=109 usec > 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=384 usec > > --- 127.0.0.1 ping statistics --- > 5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0% packet loss > round-trip min/avg/max/mdev = 0.048/0.257/0.591/0.202 ms > > I added 198.162.0.1 printer to /etc/hosts > > [joev@localhost joev]$ ping -c 5 printer > connect: Network is unreachable > > [joev@localhost joev]$ ping -c 5 198.162.0.1 > connect: Network is unreachable > > What does this mean in terms of setting up a printcap file or correct > route through CUPs? How do I determine what address my printer is on? > > This is today's project ;) > > Thanks > Joe > > > lowell wrote: > > >Does he (you) know how to get himself an address? Use your favorite > >text editor to edit /etc/hosts. Give your machine a name and an IP > >address OTHER than the loopback address > > > > SAMPLE: > > (there already)> 127.0.0.1 localhost > >localhost.localdomain > > (you add)> 198.162.0.1 bob'smachine > > > >I have seen places say to put the macine name on the first line as > >well, don't know why... > > > >HTH > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >yellowdog-newbie mailing list > >yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > >http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > > > > > > ____________________________ > New Yorker Free Software Users Scene > Fair Use - > because it's either fair use or useless.... -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu Jan 2 15:56:51 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Joe Villari) Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 15:56:51 +0000 Subject: [hangout] CUPS Printer Config References:

<20030101233245.A20234@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <3E14500E.8010400@kc.rr.com> <3E14479B.4060205@pipeline.com> <3E14933A.3070608@kc.rr.com> Message-ID: <3E146143.4000405@pipeline.com> This a real simple setup. Ti PowerBook and a laser printer conneted via ethernet. That's it. I can ping outside: [root@localhost joev]# ping -c 5 www2.mrbrklyn.com PING www2.mrbrklyn.com (64.105.122.138) from 165.247.43.235 : 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from www2.mrbrklyn.com (64.105.122.138): icmp_seq=0 ttl=248 time=218.336 msec 64 bytes from www2.mrbrklyn.com (64.105.122.138): icmp_seq=1 ttl=248 time=169.844 msec 64 bytes from www2.mrbrklyn.com (64.105.122.138): icmp_seq=2 ttl=248 time=209.855 msec 64 bytes from www2.mrbrklyn.com (64.105.122.138): icmp_seq=3 ttl=248 time=169.948 msec 64 bytes from www2.mrbrklyn.com (64.105.122.138): icmp_seq=4 ttl=248 time=159.851 msec --- www2.mrbrklyn.com ping statistics --- 5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/mdev = 159.851/185.566/218.336/23.738 ms I am connected to the internet via dialup pcmcia modem using ppp. The ethernet is onboard and has no lights to say if it's working or not. Mechanically I know it works because I've used it under Mac OS to print, connect to local machines and dsl when I had it. I don't know what the printers address is or how to find that out, which is what I think is my missing link. Joe Lowell Premer wrote: > I believe a ping to localhost does NOT use the ethernet card. Is the > machine in question the same one on which you're sending these > messages to the list? If so, are you communicating with the list via > dialup or cable/dsl? Reason I wonder about this is, is the ethernet > card working? (First of all, does it show a light? Look at the back of > the machine where the cable plugs into the card.)If you're talking via > that card then it works fosho but if you're taliking by modem it might > not be. See if you can ping a known address outside; a dns server at > your isp or something? > Also, do I remember you saying you were connected to the printer > via ethernet? Well, the editing you did in /etc/hosts doesn't assign > that address to the printer, it just tells your machine that that is > the address of a remote host (i.e. other machine) named "printer". Is > the printer's address really 198.162.0.1? How did you find that out? > > Joe Villari wrote: > >> I can ping my localhost >> >> [joev@localhost joev]$ ping -c 5 localhost >> PING localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1) from 127.0.0.1 : 56(84) bytes >> of data. >> 64 bytes from localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1): icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 >> time=49 usec >> 64 bytes from localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 >> time=149 usec >> 64 bytes from localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1): icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 >> time=152 usec >> 64 bytes from localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1): icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 >> time=71 usec >> 64 bytes from localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1): icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 >> time=121 usec >> >> --- localhost.localdomain ping statistics --- >> 5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0% packet loss >> round-trip min/avg/max/mdev = 0.049/0.108/0.152/0.042 ms >> >> [joev@localhost joev]$ ping -c 5 127.0.0.1 >> PING 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1) from 127.0.0.1 : 56(84) bytes of data. >> 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=48 usec >> 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=153 usec >> 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=591 usec >> 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=109 usec >> 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=384 usec >> >> --- 127.0.0.1 ping statistics --- >> 5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0% packet loss >> round-trip min/avg/max/mdev = 0.048/0.257/0.591/0.202 ms >> >> I added 198.162.0.1 printer to /etc/hosts >> >> [joev@localhost joev]$ ping -c 5 printer >> connect: Network is unreachable >> >> [joev@localhost joev]$ ping -c 5 198.162.0.1 >> connect: Network is unreachable >> >> What does this mean in terms of setting up a printcap file or correct >> route through CUPs? How do I determine what address my printer is on? >> >> This is today's project ;) >> >> Thanks >> Joe >> >> >> lowell wrote: >> >>> Does he (you) know how to get himself an address? Use your favorite >>> text editor to edit /etc/hosts. Give your machine a name and an IP >>> address OTHER than the loopback address >>> >>> SAMPLE: >>> (there already)> 127.0.0.1 localhost >>> localhost.localdomain >>> (you add)> 198.162.0.1 bob'smachine >>> >>> I have seen places say to put the macine name on the first line as >>> well, don't know why... >>> >>> HTH >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> yellowdog-newbie mailing list >>> yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >>> http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> yellowdog-newbie mailing list >> yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >> http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie >> > > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri Jan 3 01:25:10 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Greg Dougherty) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 17:25:10 -0800 Subject: Install without booting Message-ID: <20030102172516-r01010800-75dfb19c-0910-0108@192.168.1.40> Hi all, I have a 9600 with a 500 MHz G3 card, that refuses to boot from a CD ROM (as in, it won't even SEE the CD drive if I boot without extensions. I went through 4 different Apple branded CDs w/o any luck, so I'm just giving up on this). I downloaded the YDL CD image, and burned it onto a disk. (IF I can get YDL installed and running on my computer, I'll buy the distribution, but given that my system is in the "should work" category, I figure there's no point buying until I know I'm not going to return it.) Is there any way for me to install Yellow Dog Linux onto my computer without booting from their CD? I have a completely blank 4 Gig SCSI HD I want to install it onto. TIA, Greg From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri Jan 3 16:56:16 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Joe Villari) Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 11:56:16 -0500 Subject: Netatalk and AppleTalk Printers Message-ID: <3E15C0B0.7070605@pipeline.com> I'm trying to set up my HP 4MP printer with my TI PowerBook and YDL 2.3. The printer connects to the computer via ethernet. The printer has a serial to ethernet adapter to a hub and the comtupter plugs right into the hub. Works fine from Mac OS. YDL 2.3 has netatalk running: Jan 3 01:04:54 localhost atalk: atalkd startup succeeded Jan 3 01:05:06 localhost atalk: papd startup succeeded Jan 3 01:05:06 localhost atalk: afpd startup succeeded According to YDL documentation I should be able to use MOL, go to the chooser and see the linux side. This doesn't happen. I'm not sure if I need to configure the TCP/IP control panel or not; right now it's set for ppp but appletalk is set for ethernet. According to a howto (http://gdr.free.fr/linux2.html) I found, I should be able to use getzones to see my AppleTalk zones and nbplkup to see into the zones. Here are my results: [root@localhost joev]# getzones atp_rresp: Connection timed out [root@localhost joev]# nbplkup localhost:AFPServer 65280.207:128 localhost:netatalk 65280.207:4 localhost:Workstation 65280.207:4 Notsure what this all means. It appears that netatalk is OK but I don't see any AppleTalk zones. The computer is connected to the hub and the printer is turned on and in the hub. I make my internet connection via pcmcia modem and did change /etc/sysconfig/network from 'GATEWAYDEV=3Deth0' to GATEWAYDEV=3Dppp0 as per YDL howto (I'm not sure if this will cause any problems for networking). Any ideas, help, documentation or solutions will be appreciated. Joe From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri Jan 3 17:24:06 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (nathan r. hruby) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:24:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: Netatalk and AppleTalk Printers In-Reply-To: <3E15C0B0.7070605@pipeline.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Joe Villari wrote: > I'm trying to set up my HP 4MP printer with my TI PowerBook and YDL 2.3. > The printer connects to the computer via ethernet. The printer has a > serial to ethernet adapter to a hub and the comtupter plugs right into > the hub. Works fine from Mac OS. > Please describe the serial -> ethernet dongle. Is it a print server like device? If so, it probably has support for LPR printing (you should investigate this) so you can print directly to the printer using the standard printing tools under YDL. > YDL 2.3 has netatalk running: > > Jan 3 01:04:54 localhost atalk: atalkd startup succeeded > Jan 3 01:05:06 localhost atalk: papd startup succeeded > Jan 3 01:05:06 localhost atalk: afpd startup succeeded > > According to YDL documentation I should be able to use MOL, go to the > chooser and see the linux side. This doesn't happen. I'm not sure if I > need to configure the TCP/IP control panel or not; right now it's set > for ppp but appletalk is set for ethernet. > > According to a howto (http://gdr.free.fr/linux2.html) I found, I should > be able to use getzones to see my AppleTalk zones and nbplkup to see > into the zones. Here are my results: > > [root@localhost joev]# getzones > atp_rresp: Connection timed out > > [root@localhost joev]# nbplkup > localhost:AFPServer > 65280.207:128 > localhost:netatalk > 65280.207:4 > localhost:Workstation > 65280.207:4 > > Notsure what this all means. It appears that netatalk is OK but I don't > see any AppleTalk zones. > > The computer is connected to the hub and the printer is turned on and in > the hub. I make my internet connection via pcmcia modem and did change > /etc/sysconfig/network from 'GATEWAYDEV=3Deth0' to GATEWAYDEV=3Dppp0 as > per YDL howto (I'm not sure if this will cause any problems for networking). > > Any ideas, help, documentation or solutions will be appreciated. > I don't understand what you're trying to do and your setup seems overly complex. Perhaps if you could answer a few questions: Why are you using a PCMCIA modem and not the onboard ethernet of the TiBook? Does the PCMCIA modeam also have an ethernet connection? Does the PCMCIA modem get recognized by linux at all? Are you trying to connect to your printer remotely over a PPP connection? Does your MOL session have any networking? Does nbplkup report the printer sitting on the network? Do you have a router on your network that is creating zones? (eg: a gatorbox, hardware router, netatalk box connected to two seperate networks, a VPN connection to a remote site with zones)? What exactly are you trying to do? -n -- ---------------------------------------- nathan hruby computer services specialist uga drama http://www.drama.uga.edu/support/ ---------------------------------------- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri Jan 3 18:08:05 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Joe Villari) Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 13:08:05 -0500 Subject: Netatalk and AppleTalk Printers References: Message-ID: <3E15D185.3090500@pipeline.com> nathan r. hruby wrote: >On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Joe Villari wrote: > >>I'm trying to set up my HP 4MP printer with my TI PowerBook and YDL 2.3. >>The printer connects to the computer via ethernet. The printer has a >>serial to ethernet adapter to a hub and the comtupter plugs right into >>the hub. Works fine from Mac OS. >> > >Please describe the serial -> ethernet dongle. Is it a print server like >device? If so, it probably has support for LPR printing (you should >investigate this) so you can print directly to the printer using the >standard printing tools under YDL. > It is a Farallon ethernet iprint adapter. Basically, the old style apple print port is contected to a cable which connects to the adapter, the other side of the adapter is an ethernet cable to the hub. Commonly used connect non-ethernet Mac printers to ethernet hubs for Mac networking. > > >>YDL 2.3 has netatalk running: >> >>Jan 3 01:04:54 localhost atalk: atalkd startup succeeded >>Jan 3 01:05:06 localhost atalk: papd startup succeeded >>Jan 3 01:05:06 localhost atalk: afpd startup succeeded >> >>According to YDL documentation I should be able to use MOL, go to the >>chooser and see the linux side. This doesn't happen. I'm not sure if I >>need to configure the TCP/IP control panel or not; right now it's set >>for ppp but appletalk is set for ethernet. >> >>According to a howto (http://gdr.free.fr/linux2.html) I found, I should >>be able to use getzones to see my AppleTalk zones and nbplkup to see >>into the zones. Here are my results: >> >>[root@localhost joev]# getzones >>atp_rresp: Connection timed out >> >>[root@localhost joev]# nbplkup >> localhost:AFPServer >>65280.207:128 >> localhost:netatalk >>65280.207:4 >> localhost:Workstation >>65280.207:4 >> >>Notsure what this all means. It appears that netatalk is OK but I don't >>see any AppleTalk zones. >> >>The computer is connected to the hub and the printer is turned on and in >>the hub. I make my internet connection via pcmcia modem and did change >>/etc/sysconfig/network from 'GATEWAYDEV=3Deth0' to GATEWAYDEV=3Dppp0 as >>per YDL howto (I'm not sure if this will cause any problems for networking). >> >>Any ideas, help, documentation or solutions will be appreciated. >> > >I don't understand what you're trying to do and your setup seems overly >complex. Perhaps if you could answer a few questions: > >Why are you using a PCMCIA modem and not the onboard ethernet of >the TiBook? > The only way to connect to the internet is via dial up. The onboard modem won't work on a TI PowerBook. > > >Does the PCMCIA modeam also have an ethernet connection? > No > > >Does the PCMCIA modem get recognized by linux at all? > Yes, using it right now for internet connection. > > >Are you trying to connect to your printer remotely over a >PPP connection? > Printer is connected to an ethernet hub. > > >Does your MOL session have any networking? > Dunno. According to YDL howto all you had to do is start atalk and then it appears when you use MOL which is what happens when I used a standalone Mac machine connected to a hub that my Suse intel server was plugged into. > > >Does nbplkup report the printer sitting on the network? > No I don't think so. See Above > > >Do you have a router on your network that is creating zones? (eg: a >gatorbox, hardware router, netatalk box connected to two seperate >networks, a VPN connection to a remote site with zones)? > No. This is a very SIMPLE setup, one TI PowerBook connected to a hub and a printer connected to the hub. > > >What exactly are you trying to do? > Get my printer to work under YDL 2.3 from my PowerBook > > >-n > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri Jan 3 21:24:58 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Bill Hughes) Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 16:24:58 -0500 Subject: Install without booting Message-ID: <3DC1FD1F.3D5E0A1D.6A01E670@netscape.net> >Hi all, > >I have a 9600 with a 500 MHz G3 card, that refuses to boot from a CD ROM (as in, >it won't even SEE the CD drive if I boot without extensions. I went through 4 >different Apple branded CDs w/o any luck, so I'm just giving up on this). > >I downloaded the YDL CD image, and burned it onto a disk. (IF I can get YDL >installed and running on my computer, I'll buy the distribution, but given that >my system is in the "should work" category, I figure there's no point buying >until I know I'm not going to return it.) Is there any way for me to install >Yellow Dog Linux onto my computer without booting from their CD? I have a >completely blank 4 Gig SCSI HD I want to install it onto. > >TIA, > >Greg That's really strange behavior for any (insert flavor) G3 upgrade card. Won't boot off of a CD at all? Are you sure that your SCSI bus is setup correctly (ie-correct/proper termination, no Bus ID setting conflicts, etc..)??? Well, as long as you can still boot Mac OS, then you needn't worry about it. The old world Macs have to boot into Mac OS "BEFORE"you can boot into YDL, via the "Boot X App". Basicly just a C.Panel and Extension that you install into your System Folder. It installs 2 YDL RAMDisk Boot images, one terminal-based and one X (or GUI-based if you prefer). After you install this, you restart (as long as you have them enabled in Extensions Manager). The Boot X App is one of the first loaded Extensions (on my 9500 w/XLR8MACh Carrier G3/500, the XLR8 Extension/Splash Screen loads before Boot X, but I don't know if you're hardware/software you're using, so YMMV) and will give you 10 Seconds to decide if you want to boot Linux or MacOS. So basicly, to make all of the above seemingly pointless, as long as you can access your CD-ROM drive AFTER booting into MacOS, you don't have to have a Bootable CD-ROM drive. Good Luck!! Bill __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat Jan 4 05:08:12 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Rick Thomas) Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 00:08:12 -0500 Subject: Netatalk and AppleTalk Printers In-Reply-To: <3E15D185.3090500@pipeline.com> Message-ID: Joe, As I understand it, you have a PowerBook (running YDL 2.3) that connects to the Internet using a PCMCIA modem, because the built-in modem doesn't work with YDL (sigh...) Self-same PowerBook has an Ethernet port which you are attempting to use to talk to your HP 4MP printer via AppleTalk (EtherTalk to the Faralon iPrint, then LocalTalk to the 4MP) You are concerned that "getzones" isn't seeing any zones. Don't be. There aren't any zones to see. You've got a simple AppleTalk network with no routers, hence no need for zones, hence no zones. On the other hand, nbplkup isn't seeing the printer. That's a problem. You can't print to it if you can't see it! As somebody else said, try restarting the atalk service with the printer up. See if that helps. You should also check to see if the Ethernet interface is up. Use "ifconfig -a" and look to see if the "eth0" interface is up and speaking EtherTalk. If not, you need to configure the network interface stuff, which is (probably) in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 . There may be a GUI for doing network configuration. I'm not sure. Does anybody out there know for sure? Ask again if that doesn't help. Rick on 1/3/03 1:08 PM, Joe Villari at joev_nylxs@pipeline.com wrote: > nathan r. hruby wrote: > >> On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Joe Villari wrote: >> >>> I'm trying to set up my HP 4MP printer with my TI PowerBook and YDL 2.3. >>> The printer connects to the computer via ethernet. The printer has a >>> serial to ethernet adapter to a hub and the comtupter plugs right into >>> the hub. Works fine from Mac OS. >>> >> >> Please describe the serial -> ethernet dongle. Is it a print server like >> device? If so, it probably has support for LPR printing (you should >> investigate this) so you can print directly to the printer using the >> standard printing tools under YDL. >> > It is a Farallon ethernet iprint adapter. Basically, the old style apple > print port is contected to a cable which connects to the adapter, the > other side of the adapter is an ethernet cable to the hub. Commonly used > connect non-ethernet Mac printers to ethernet hubs for Mac networking. > >> >> >>> YDL 2.3 has netatalk running: >>> >>> Jan 3 01:04:54 localhost atalk: atalkd startup succeeded >>> Jan 3 01:05:06 localhost atalk: papd startup succeeded >>> Jan 3 01:05:06 localhost atalk: afpd startup succeeded >>> >>> According to YDL documentation I should be able to use MOL, go to the >>> chooser and see the linux side. This doesn't happen. I'm not sure if I >>> need to configure the TCP/IP control panel or not; right now it's set >>> for ppp but appletalk is set for ethernet. >>> >>> According to a howto (http://gdr.free.fr/linux2.html) I found, I should >>> be able to use getzones to see my AppleTalk zones and nbplkup to see >>> into the zones. Here are my results: >>> >>> [root@localhost joev]# getzones >>> atp_rresp: Connection timed out >>> >>> [root@localhost joev]# nbplkup >>> localhost:AFPServer >>> 65280.207:128 >>> localhost:netatalk >>> 65280.207:4 >>> localhost:Workstation >>> 65280.207:4 >>> >>> Notsure what this all means. It appears that netatalk is OK but I don't >>> see any AppleTalk zones. >>> >>> The computer is connected to the hub and the printer is turned on and in >>> the hub. I make my internet connection via pcmcia modem and did change >>> /etc/sysconfig/network from 'GATEWAYDEV=3Deth0' to GATEWAYDEV=3Dppp0 as >>> per YDL howto (I'm not sure if this will cause any problems for networking). >>> >>> Any ideas, help, documentation or solutions will be appreciated. >>> >> >> I don't understand what you're trying to do and your setup seems overly >> complex. Perhaps if you could answer a few questions: >> >> Why are you using a PCMCIA modem and not the onboard ethernet of >> the TiBook? >> > The only way to connect to the internet is via dial up. The onboard > modem won't work on a TI PowerBook. > >> >> >> Does the PCMCIA modeam also have an ethernet connection? >> > No > >> >> >> Does the PCMCIA modem get recognized by linux at all? >> > Yes, using it right now for internet connection. > >> >> >> Are you trying to connect to your printer remotely over a >> PPP connection? >> > Printer is connected to an ethernet hub. > >> >> >> Does your MOL session have any networking? >> > Dunno. According to YDL howto all you had to do is start atalk and then > it appears when you use MOL which is what happens when I used a > standalone Mac machine connected to a hub that my Suse intel server was > plugged into. > >> >> >> Does nbplkup report the printer sitting on the network? >> > No I don't think so. See Above > >> >> >> Do you have a router on your network that is creating zones? (eg: a >> gatorbox, hardware router, netatalk box connected to two seperate >> networks, a VPN connection to a remote site with zones)? >> > No. This is a very SIMPLE setup, one TI PowerBook connected to a hub and > a printer connected to the hub. > >> >> >> What exactly are you trying to do? >> > Get my printer to work under YDL 2.3 from my PowerBook > >> >> >> -n >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-general mailing list > yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat Jan 4 06:11:30 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (John Larreta) Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 22:11:30 -0800 Subject: Dial-up Config Problem Message-ID: Hello, I have YDL 2.3 on my G3 B/W, and have been unable to get Gnome to find my modem & KDE can't open my modem. All while using the config wizard. I know less than nothing about computers, can someone please help? Thank You, john From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat Jan 4 10:28:53 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Joe Villari) Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 10:28:53 +0000 Subject: Netatalk and AppleTalk Printers References: Message-ID: <3E16B765.4040800@pipeline.com> After unpluging and repluging in the ethernet cable and restarting atalk I'm now able to see the printer: [joev@localhost joev]$ nbplkup localhost:AFPServer 65280.231:128 localhost:netatalk 65280.231:4 localhost:Workstation 65280.231:4 HP LaserJet 4MP:LaserWriter 65280.219:132 I tried configuring it in CUPs but I'm not quite sure what to choose for the paths and stuff. I've tried a few with no success. I no generate an error which seems conflicting; something like I can't see the printer at the socket - Success. So, now I'm working on configuring CUPs or lpd. Joe Rick Thomas wrote: >Joe, > >As I understand it, you have a PowerBook (running YDL 2.3) that connects to >the Internet using a PCMCIA modem, because the built-in modem doesn't work >with YDL (sigh...) Self-same PowerBook has an Ethernet port which you are >attempting to use to talk to your HP 4MP printer via AppleTalk (EtherTalk to >the Faralon iPrint, then LocalTalk to the 4MP) > >You are concerned that "getzones" isn't seeing any zones. Don't be. There >aren't any zones to see. You've got a simple AppleTalk network with no >routers, hence no need for zones, hence no zones. > >On the other hand, nbplkup isn't seeing the printer. That's a problem. You >can't print to it if you can't see it! As somebody else said, try >restarting the atalk service with the printer up. See if that helps. > >You should also check to see if the Ethernet interface is up. >Use "ifconfig -a" and look to see if the "eth0" interface is up and speaking >EtherTalk. If not, you need to configure the network interface stuff, which >is (probably) in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 . > >There may be a GUI for doing network configuration. I'm not sure. Does >anybody out there know for sure? > >Ask again if that doesn't help. > >Rick > > >on 1/3/03 1:08 PM, Joe Villari at joev_nylxs@pipeline.com wrote: > >>nathan r. hruby wrote: >> >>>On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Joe Villari wrote: >>> >>>>I'm trying to set up my HP 4MP printer with my TI PowerBook and YDL 2.3. >>>>The printer connects to the computer via ethernet. The printer has a >>>>serial to ethernet adapter to a hub and the comtupter plugs right into >>>>the hub. Works fine from Mac OS. >>>> >>>Please describe the serial -> ethernet dongle. Is it a print server like >>>device? If so, it probably has support for LPR printing (you should >>>investigate this) so you can print directly to the printer using the >>>standard printing tools under YDL. >>> >>It is a Farallon ethernet iprint adapter. Basically, the old style apple >>print port is contected to a cable which connects to the adapter, the >>other side of the adapter is an ethernet cable to the hub. Commonly used >>connect non-ethernet Mac printers to ethernet hubs for Mac networking. >> >>> >>>>YDL 2.3 has netatalk running: >>>> >>>>Jan 3 01:04:54 localhost atalk: atalkd startup succeeded >>>>Jan 3 01:05:06 localhost atalk: papd startup succeeded >>>>Jan 3 01:05:06 localhost atalk: afpd startup succeeded >>>> >>>>According to YDL documentation I should be able to use MOL, go to the >>>>chooser and see the linux side. This doesn't happen. I'm not sure if I >>>>need to configure the TCP/IP control panel or not; right now it's set >>>>for ppp but appletalk is set for ethernet. >>>> >>>>According to a howto (http://gdr.free.fr/linux2.html) I found, I should >>>>be able to use getzones to see my AppleTalk zones and nbplkup to see >>>>into the zones. Here are my results: >>>> >>>>[root@localhost joev]# getzones >>>>atp_rresp: Connection timed out >>>> >>>>[root@localhost joev]# nbplkup >>>>localhost:AFPServer >>>>65280.207:128 >>>>localhost:netatalk >>>>65280.207:4 >>>>localhost:Workstation >>>>65280.207:4 >>>> >>>>Notsure what this all means. It appears that netatalk is OK but I don't >>>>see any AppleTalk zones. >>>> >>>>The computer is connected to the hub and the printer is turned on and in >>>>the hub. I make my internet connection via pcmcia modem and did change >>>>/etc/sysconfig/network from 'GATEWAYDEV=3Deth0' to GATEWAYDEV=3Dppp0 as >>>>per YDL howto (I'm not sure if this will cause any problems for networking). >>>> >>>>Any ideas, help, documentation or solutions will be appreciated. >>>> >>>I don't understand what you're trying to do and your setup seems overly >>>complex. Perhaps if you could answer a few questions: >>> >>>Why are you using a PCMCIA modem and not the onboard ethernet of >>>the TiBook? >>> >>The only way to connect to the internet is via dial up. The onboard >>modem won't work on a TI PowerBook. >> >>> >>>Does the PCMCIA modeam also have an ethernet connection? >>> >>No >> >>> >>>Does the PCMCIA modem get recognized by linux at all? >>> >>Yes, using it right now for internet connection. >> >>> >>>Are you trying to connect to your printer remotely over a >>>PPP connection? >>> >>Printer is connected to an ethernet hub. >> >>> >>>Does your MOL session have any networking? >>> >>Dunno. According to YDL howto all you had to do is start atalk and then >>it appears when you use MOL which is what happens when I used a >>standalone Mac machine connected to a hub that my Suse intel server was >>plugged into. >> >>> >>>Does nbplkup report the printer sitting on the network? >>> >>No I don't think so. See Above >> >>> >>>Do you have a router on your network that is creating zones? (eg: a >>>gatorbox, hardware router, netatalk box connected to two seperate >>>networks, a VPN connection to a remote site with zones)? >>> >>No. This is a very SIMPLE setup, one TI PowerBook connected to a hub and >>a printer connected to the hub. >> >>> >>>What exactly are you trying to do? >>> >>Get my printer to work under YDL 2.3 from my PowerBook >> >>> >>>-n >>> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>yellowdog-general mailing list >>yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >>http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general >> > > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat Jan 4 16:49:22 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Jeroen Diederen) Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 16:49:22 +0000 Subject: Netatalk and AppleTalk Printers In-Reply-To: <3E16B765.4040800@pipeline.com> References: <3E16B765.4040800@pipeline.com> Message-ID: <3E171092.8010800@freeler.nl> Joe Villari wrote: > After unpluging and repluging in the ethernet cable and restarting > atalk I'm now able to see the printer: > > [joev@localhost joev]$ nbplkup > localhost:AFPServer > 65280.231:128 > localhost:netatalk > 65280.231:4 > localhost:Workstation > 65280.231:4 > HP LaserJet 4MP:LaserWriter > 65280.219:132 > > I tried configuring it in CUPs but I'm not quite sure what to choose > for the paths and stuff. I've tried a few with no success. I no > generate an error which seems conflicting; something like I can't see > the printer at the socket - Success. > > So, now I'm working on configuring CUPs or lpd. > > Joe > > > > Rick Thomas wrote: > >> Joe, >> > I helped another guy on this list with configuring such a printer under CUPS. I don't have the mail anymore. What you have to do for CUPS is the following: put the right PPD file in /usr/share/cups/model you can get it here if you do not have it: (PPD=Macintosh Postscript Printer Description) http://www.adobe.com/products/printerdrivers/macppd.html download this pap backend at: http://vt.oeh.uni-linz.ac.at/~rupi/pap/ put this file in: /usr/lib/cups/backend// chmod +x pap (make the script executable) restart CUPS and try to add the printer with a browser (like http://localhost:port 631). From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat Jan 4 13:25:10 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Joe Villari) Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 13:25:10 +0000 Subject: Netatalk and AppleTalk Printers References: <3E16B765.4040800@pipeline.com> <3E170FC5.4040606@freeler.nl> <3E16C2B0.4070101@pipeline.com> <3E171A40.6090309@freeler.nl> Message-ID: <3E16E0B6.8020300@pipeline.com> > Sorry I could have said it in one go... > your Device URI is > pap://HP LaserJet 4MP > I don't know if that works with these spaces...otherwise you have to > give it another name like Joeprinter under MacOS I think this is the problem, I've tried evrything I know of this point with the address. CUPS says the printer is idle and accepting jops, I send the test page and all seems fine and it just does not print. I have NO idea how to change my printer name. On Mac OS I went to chooser, selected setup, printer info, see the name of the printer. I opened the ppd file and found where the printer name was, edited it read 4MP and this didnot change the name of the printer in the chooser. I did update info from the chooser and restarted to be sure. Changed the name of the ppd to 4MP still the same result. Searched google, macworld and HP's site for a howto or any documentation on how to do this; none found. I did find several colleges that renamed their 4MP on the network but can't find out how to do so. If you or any one knows how, I'd be one HAPPY camper. I even tried editing the print.conf and printcap files to read HP LaserJet 4MP and "HP LaserJet 4MP", read some ldp docs about needing to enclose in quotes if there were spaces in the name, still no good. So close. Thanks Again Joe From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat Jan 4 19:57:46 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Jeroen Diederen) Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 19:57:46 +0000 Subject: Netatalk and AppleTalk Printers In-Reply-To: <3E16E0B6.8020300@pipeline.com> References: <3E16B765.4040800@pipeline.com> <3E170FC5.4040606@freeler.nl> <3E16C2B0.4070101@pipeline.com> <3E171A40.6090309@freeler.nl> <3E16E0B6.8020300@pipeline.com> Message-ID: <3E173CBA.7020006@freeler.nl> Joe Villari wrote: > > Sorry I could have said it in one go... > > your Device URI is > > pap://HP LaserJet 4MP > > I don't know if that works with these spaces...otherwise you have to > > give it another name like Joeprinter under MacOS > > > I think this is the problem, I've tried evrything I know of this point > with the address. CUPS says the printer is idle and accepting jops, I > send the test page and all seems fine and it just does not print. > > I have NO idea how to change my printer name. On Mac OS I went to > chooser, selected setup, printer info, see the name of the printer. I > opened the ppd file and found where the printer name was, edited it read > 4MP and this didnot change the name of the printer in the chooser. I did > update info from the chooser and restarted to be sure. Changed the name > of the ppd to 4MP still the same result. Searched google, macworld and > HP's site for a howto or any documentation on how to do this; none > found. I did find several colleges that renamed their 4MP on the network > but can't find out how to do so. > > If you or any one knows how, I'd be one HAPPY camper. > > I even tried editing the print.conf and printcap files to read HP > LaserJet 4MP and "HP LaserJet 4MP", read some ldp docs about needing to > enclose in quotes if there were spaces in the name, still no good. > > So close. > > Thanks > Again > Joe > > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > > I got this printer from a friend, I don't know how he gave the name to the printer. I think you need some extra software under macOS to give it another name I presume. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat Jan 4 22:40:13 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Daniel Segel) Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 14:40:13 -0800 Subject: kernel panic during install when formatting swap partition on 8600 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030104143152.0292e830@postoffice.pacbell.net> I'm trying to install Yellowdog 2.3 on a Powermac 8600/300 with 2x4GB SCSI hard drives in it. I've tried installing onto both drives, but I get the same error either way. The problem I'm having is that I get a kernel panic when the installer gets to the point of trying to format the swap partition. If I don't create a swap partition then it goes through that step just fine, but obviously I wouldn't bother continuing in that case. The weird part is that I get a similar crash when trying to install Mandrake 8.2/PPC, but it's only the swap partition that causes a problem. I've already tried a low-level format of the drives, and I've tried putting the swap partition in different places on the drive. Is there some way I can boot to a command prompt before the install happens and try to mkfs the swap partition manually? Thanks, Daniel From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun Jan 5 02:26:36 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (David Tisdell) Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 18:26:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: yellowdog-newbie digest, Vol 1 #313 - 7 msgs In-Reply-To: <20030104190105.3BAF31FBCE@newhope.terraplex.com> Message-ID: <20030105022636.36243.qmail@web13402.mail.yahoo.com> There is a laserwriter utility (runs in MacOS) that you can use to change the AppleTalk name of the printer. I forget the details. I have a copy somewhere on a server at work. If I can find it. I will post the exact name of the utility. Good Luck! Dave Message: 7 Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 19:57:46 +0000 From: Jeroen Diederen To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Subject: Re: Netatalk and AppleTalk Printers Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Joe Villari wrote: > > Sorry I could have said it in one go... > > your Device URI is > > pap://HP LaserJet 4MP > > I don't know if that works with these spaces...otherwise you have to > > give it another name like Joeprinter under MacOS > > > I think this is the problem, I've tried evrything I know of this point > with the address. CUPS says the printer is idle and accepting jops, I > send the test page and all seems fine and it just does not print. > > I have NO idea how to change my printer name. On Mac OS I went to > chooser, selected setup, printer info, see the name of the printer. I > opened the ppd file and found where the printer name was, edited it read > 4MP and this didnot change the name of the printer in the chooser. I did > update info from the chooser and restarted to be sure. Changed the name > of the ppd to 4MP still the same result. Searched google, macworld and > HP's site for a howto or any documentation on how to do this; none > found. I did find several colleges that renamed their 4MP on the network > but can't find out how to do so. > > If you or any one knows how, I'd be one HAPPY camper. > > I even tried editing the print.conf and printcap files to read HP > LaserJet 4MP and "HP LaserJet 4MP", read some ldp docs about needing to > enclose in quotes if there were spaces in the name, still no good. > > So close. > > Thanks > Again > Joe > > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > > I got this printer from a friend, I don't know how he gave the name to the printer. I think you need some extra software under macOS to give it another name I presume. --__--__-- __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun Jan 5 05:16:41 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Daniel Segel) Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 21:16:41 -0800 Subject: kernel panic during install when formatting swap partition on 8600 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030104211507.03418e98@postoffice.pacbell.net> I'm trying to install Yellowdog 2.3 on a Powermac 8600/300 with 2x4GB SCSI hard drives in it. I've tried installing onto both drives, but I get the same error either way. The problem I'm having is that I get a kernel panic when the installer gets to the point of trying to format the swap partition. If I don't create a swap partition then it goes through that step just fine, but obviously I wouldn't bother continuing in that case. Actually, it may be happening right after the format; does the installer issue a swapon command at that point? The weird part is that I get a similar crash when trying to install Mandrake 8.2/PPC, but it's only the swap partition that causes a problem. I've already tried a low-level format of the drives, and I've tried putting the swap partition in different places on the drive. Is there some way I can boot to a command prompt before the install happens and try to mkfs the swap partition manually? Thanks, Daniel From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun Jan 5 11:50:33 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Jeroen Diederen) Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 11:50:33 +0000 Subject: Netatalk and AppleTalk Printers In-Reply-To: <3E15C0B0.7070605@pipeline.com> References: <3E15C0B0.7070605@pipeline.com> Message-ID: <3E181C09.902@freeler.nl> What you need to change the name of an Appletalk Printer is an utitity by Apple called "Apple Printer Utility". You can download it here: http://downloads-zdnet.com.com/3000-2296-883080.html?tag=list Succes PS this is an utility to use under Classic MacOS From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun Jan 5 16:25:56 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com) Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 11:25:56 EST Subject: Newbie Install Problem Message-ID: --part1_cb.2da23960.2b49b694_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anybody reply to this one?? I have the same problem. Rick In a message dated 12/31/02 1:11:20 PM, steve@proscript.co.uk writes: > > I'm trying to install YDL on a 7600/132 with a 4Gb HD and 192Mb Memory. As > the install starts, I get a progress bar on "Transferring Packages" for > about 3mm (2 minutes of whirring) and then I get > > "Errors running transaction set! Please correct this manually" > > I would if I knew what it meant. > > Can anyone point me in the right direction? > > Thanks > > > Steve > --part1_cb.2da23960.2b49b694_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anybody reply to this one?? I have the same problem.

Rick

In a message dated 12/31/02 1:11:20 PM, steve@proscript.co.uk writes:

I'm trying to install YDL on a 7600/132 with a 4Gb HD and 192Mb Memory. As the install starts, I get a progress bar on "Transferring Packages" for about 3mm (2 minutes of whirring) and then I get

"Errors running transaction set! Please correct this manually"

I would if I knew what it meant.

Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Thanks

Steve

--part1_cb.2da23960.2b49b694_boundary-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun Jan 5 11:55:10 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Casey Coble) Date: 05 Jan 2003 11:55:10 +0000 Subject: Laptop battery life pannel In-Reply-To: <20030104190105.3BAF31FBCE@newhope.terraplex.com> References: <20030104190105.3BAF31FBCE@newhope.terraplex.com> Message-ID: <1041767710.3319.1.camel@mobile.bin-tec.com> I recently by accident deleted the battery applet from my pannel and would like to put it back there but i can't find it listed anywhere. Any help? Thanks Casey From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun Jan 5 18:06:25 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Nigel Horne) Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 18:06:25 +0000 Subject: Laptop battery life panel In-Reply-To: <1041767710.3319.1.camel@mobile.bin-tec.com> References: <20030104190105.3BAF31FBCE@newhope.terraplex.com> <1041767710.3319.1.camel@mobile.bin-tec.com> Message-ID: <200301051806.25231.njh@bandsman.co.uk> You could try klaptopdaemon, but that gives me: klaptopdaemon: error while loading shared libraries: libkdeui.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory on YDL2.3. -Nigel -- Nigel Horne. Arranger, Composer, Conductor, Typesetter. NJH Music, Barnsley, UK. ICQ#20252325 njh@bandsman.co.uk http://www.bandsman.co.uk From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun Jan 5 18:15:55 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (louis castleman) Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 13:15:55 -0500 Subject: Problem getting to graphic interface Message-ID: I installed YellowdogLinux 2.1 on a LaCie SCSI hard disk and I chose to install all the RPM packages. The installation proceeded without any difficulty except that a few of the packages did not install. I chose on bootup to get to a console first, and after I chose "root" as the user and inserted my password,I used the command "startx" to get to the graphical interface. In previous installations, this had never been a problem. This time, when I used "startx", I got the following error message: "XAuth: error while loading shared libraries.LibXmuu.so.1:cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory" I went through the list of packages included in YellowdogLinux 2.1 which were of the library type. I found (1) libxml-1.8.9-5.ppc.rpm, and(2)libxml2-2.4.ppc.rpm. It turned out that they had not been installed, so using the "rpm -i" command I installed them. However,the "startx" problem was not solved, so obviously the file LibXmuu.so.1 was not part of those libxml packages. My question is this: Does anyone know which rpm package contains LibXmuu.so.1? I would greatly appreciate getting the information, because I much prefer workiing with a graphical interface. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun Jan 5 20:55:54 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (lowell) Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 14:55:54 -0600 Subject: Problem getting to graphic interface References: Message-ID: <3E189BDA.7070904@kc.rr.com> Try here... http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=LibXmuu.so.1&submit=Search+... HTH louis castleman wrote: > I installed YellowdogLinux 2.1 on a LaCie SCSI hard disk and I chose > to install all the RPM packages. The installation proceeded without > any difficulty except that a few of the packages did not install. I > chose on bootup to get to a console first, and after I chose "root" as > the user and inserted my password,I used the command "startx" to get > to the graphical interface. In previous installations, this had never > been a problem. This time, when I used "startx", I got the following > error message: > > "XAuth: error while loading shared libraries.LibXmuu.so.1:cannot load > shared object file: No such file or directory" > > I went through the list of packages included in YellowdogLinux 2.1 > which were of the library type. I found (1) libxml-1.8.9-5.ppc.rpm, > and(2)libxml2-2.4.ppc.rpm. > It turned out that they had not been installed, so using the "rpm -i" > command I installed them. However,the "startx" problem was not solved, > so obviously the file LibXmuu.so.1 was not part of those libxml packages. > > My question is this: Does anyone know which rpm package contains > LibXmuu.so.1? > I would greatly appreciate getting the information, because I much > prefer workiing with a graphical interface. > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun Jan 5 17:51:25 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Joe Villari) Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 17:51:25 +0000 Subject: Netatalk and AppleTalk Printers References: <3E15C0B0.7070605@pipeline.com> <3E181C09.902@freeler.nl> Message-ID: <3E18709D.8090107@pipeline.com> Thanks for the link. I was able to change the printer name fine and run the CUPS configuration. Now, Nothing prints, no test page, nothing from the command line ([joev@localhost joev]$ lp printtest.txt request id is 4MP-26 (1 file(s)) [root@localhost joev]# lp printtest.txt request id is 4MP-27 (1 file(s))) or from Open Office. Any Ideas? Thanks Again Joe Jeroen Diederen wrote: > What you need to change the name of an Appletalk Printer is an utitity > by Apple called "Apple Printer Utility". You can download it here: > http://downloads-zdnet.com.com/3000-2296-883080.html?tag=list > > Succes > > PS this is an utility to use under Classic MacOS > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon Jan 6 05:46:14 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (louis castleman) Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 00:46:14 -0500 Subject: Problem getting to graphic interface In-Reply-To: <3E189BDA.7070904@kc.rr.com> References: <3E189BDA.7070904@kc.rr.com> Message-ID: >Try here... > > >http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=LibXmuu.so.1&submit=Search+... > >HTH > >louis castleman wrote: > >>I installed YellowDogLinux 2.1 on a LaCie SCSI hard disk and I >>chose to install all the RPM packages. The installation proceeded >>without any difficulty except that a few of the packages did not >>install. I chose on bootup to get to a console first, and after I >>chose "root" as the user and inserted my password,I used the >>command "startx" to get to the graphical interface. In previous >>installations, this had never been a problem. This time, when I >>used "startx", I got the following error message: >> >>"XAuth: error while loading shared libraries.LibXmuu.so.1:cannot >>load shared object file: No such file or directory" >> >>I went through the list of packages included in YellowdogLinux 2.1 >>which were of the library type. I found (1) libxml-1.8.9-5.ppc.rpm, >>and(2)libxml2-2.4.ppc.rpm. >>It turned out that they had not been installed, so using the "rpm >>-i" command I installed them. However,the "startx" problem was not >>solved, so obviously the file LibXmuu.so.1 was not part of those >>libxml packages. >> >>My question is this: Does anyone know which rpm package contains >>LibXmuu.so.1? >>I would greatly appreciate getting the information, because I much >>prefer working with a graphical interface. >>_______________________________________________ >>yellowdog-newbie mailing list >>yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >>http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie >> > > > >_______________________________________________ >yellowdog-newbie mailing list >yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie Thank you very much for the help, HTH. I shall now see if , XFree86-libs-4.1.0-3d.ppc.rpm, which is one of the 770 packages on YellowDogLinux 2.1 was installed. It contains LibXmuu.so.1 so I suppose that it was passed over during the installation. If so, I shall install it and my problem should be solved. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon Jan 6 23:35:40 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Jay Savage) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 18:35:40 -0500 Subject: 7200/75 install fails In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <90D7DBE2-21CF-11D7-98EA-00039393B67A@mac.com> First, thanks to everyone who responded to my questions about installing 7.5.3. unfortunately, i had a hard drive failure on my eMac, so i lost the messages and couldn't respond personally. Now, I'm trying to install YDl on a 7200/75 running 7.6 (long story) with a 500Mb Maxtor SCSI drive (original hardware) and a 40G Seagate Baracuda IV on a PCI ATA controller. I've installed everything correctly--as far as i can tell--on the Mac side, and BootX comes up when it should, but when i click on Linux, the screen goes black, and nothing happens, no matter how long i let it sit. I don't hear the CD whirring, nothing. If I couldn't see the green light, I'd think I'd turned it off. The monitor even goes to sleep because there's no video. i've tried everything i can think of, including turning off all the Bootx options one-by-one, trying different ramdisks. I even tried the 2.4 (vmlinux) kernel once, just for kicks. But still nothing, not even an error message. Any ideas? thanks, --jay From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue Jan 7 09:38:09 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (B. Charles Reynolds) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 00:38:09 -0900 Subject: 7200/75 install fails In-Reply-To: <90D7DBE2-21CF-11D7-98EA-00039393B67A@mac.com> Message-ID: What's your partitioning scheme? Older x86 linux kernels needed to be installed within the first 1024 blocks of the bootdisk. I believe that this may have actually been a hardware/BIOS issue, but I'm not sure. I haven't looked at the YDL docs that closely, but you might be running into a similar problem. Try putting the YDL /boot partition at the very front of the bootdisk (I assume the original SCSI disk) and throw the rest of the YDL partitions onto the other drive. On Monday, January 6, 2003, at 02:35 PM, Jay Savage wrote: > First, thanks to everyone who responded to my questions about > installing 7.5.3. unfortunately, i had a hard drive failure on my > eMac, so i lost the messages and couldn't respond personally. > > Now, I'm trying to install YDl on a 7200/75 running 7.6 (long story) > with a 500Mb Maxtor SCSI drive (original hardware) and a 40G Seagate > Baracuda IV on a PCI ATA controller. I've installed everything > correctly--as far as i can tell--on the Mac side, and BootX comes up > when it should, but when i click on Linux, the screen goes black, and > nothing happens, no matter how long i let it sit. I don't hear the CD > whirring, nothing. If I couldn't see the green light, I'd think I'd > turned it off. The monitor even goes to sleep because there's no > video. > > i've tried everything i can think of, including turning off all the > Bootx options one-by-one, trying different ramdisks. I even tried the > 2.4 (vmlinux) kernel once, just for kicks. But still nothing, not > even an error message. __ Charles Tired of your employer controlling your life? Find out how you can regain control and enjoy life. Check out http://www.reynet.org E-mail: charlesreynolds@mac.com From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue Jan 7 15:28:03 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Jay Savage) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 10:28:03 -0500 Subject: 7200/75 install fails In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <9CAB1302-2254-11D7-93AF-00039393B67A@mac.com> On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 04:38 AM, B. Charles Reynolds wrote: > What's your partitioning scheme? Older x86 linux kernels needed to be > installed within the first 1024 blocks of the bootdisk. I believe that > this may have actually been a hardware/BIOS issue, but I'm not sure. I > haven't looked at the YDL docs that closely, but you might be running > into a similar problem. > > Try putting the YDL /boot partition at the very front of the bootdisk > (I assume the original SCSI disk) and throw the rest of the YDL > partitions onto the other drive. > > On Monday, January 6, 2003, at 02:35 PM, Jay Savage wrote: > >> First, thanks to everyone who responded to my questions about >> installing 7.5.3. unfortunately, i had a hard drive failure on my >> eMac, so i lost the messages and couldn't respond personally. >> >> Now, I'm trying to install YDl on a 7200/75 running 7.6 (long story) >> with a 500Mb Maxtor SCSI drive (original hardware) and a 40G Seagate >> Baracuda IV on a PCI ATA controller. I've installed everything >> correctly--as far as i can tell--on the Mac side, and BootX comes up >> when it should, but when i click on Linux, the screen goes black, and >> nothing happens, no matter how long i let it sit. I don't hear the >> CD whirring, nothing. If I couldn't see the green light, I'd think >> I'd turned it off. The monitor even goes to sleep because there's no >> video. >> >> i've tried everything i can think of, including turning off all the >> Bootx options one-by-one, trying different ramdisks. I even tried >> the 2.4 (vmlinux) kernel once, just for kicks. But still nothing, >> not even an error message. > > __ > Charles > Charles, I'll try moving things around, but I don't see why this should be an issue for the installer ramdisk that is used with BootX. I'm having trouble booting the installer. I'm also not sure why BIOS issues in x86 kernels should be relevant. This is a power Macintosh 7200 with a PPC 601 processor. Thanks, --jay From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue Jan 7 19:44:56 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Miguel Blay) Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 20:44:56 +0100 Subject: problems with YDL 2.3 Message-ID: <3E1B2E38.7090008@club-internet.fr> --------------000907050605020405060508 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everybody I purchased YDL 2.3 last summer ... and since then i experienced many a problem... after successive reinstalls, now I can : (a) use apps (b) surf (DSL via DCHPPC2) (c) exchange files between Linux and Mac via a 250Mb Zip (MOL? ... ouch ... a litany of bugs next mail, I promise) ... not tooo baaaaad! here is the first problem(from a looooonnng list) let me introduce the everlasting BUG: if I want to change session (user/root or Gnome/KDE) the only way for me is to reboot otherwise my cursor gets stuck on the screen: though it worked once "the desktop=Gnome in place of dektop=KDE" trick recommended on the YDL site just doesn't change anything anyone? help? PS1: I upgraded everything via apt-get and guess what ... it's still there !!!!! (G4 Cube) --------------000907050605020405060508 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everybody

I purchased YDL 2.3 last summer ... and since then i experienced many a problem...
after successive reinstalls, now I can : (a) use apps (b) surf (DSL via DCHPPC2) (c) exchange files between Linux and Mac via a 250Mb Zip (MOL? ... ouch ... a litany of bugs next mail, I promise) ... not tooo baaaaad!

here is the first problem(from a looooonnng list)

let me introduce the everlasting BUG: if I want to change session (user/root or Gnome/KDE) the only way for me is to reboot otherwise my cursor gets stuck on the screen: though it worked once "the desktop=Gnome in place of dektop=KDE" trick recommended on the YDL site just doesn't change anything

anyone? help?

PS1: I upgraded everything via apt-get and guess what ... it's still there !!!!!

(G4 Cube)
--------------000907050605020405060508-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed Jan 8 00:00:04 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 19:00:04 EST Subject: problems with YDL 2.3 Message-ID: --part1_b9.2c8d3436.2b4cc404_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Better luck than me. I am about to file my YDL 2.3 disks with my AOL=20 coaster collection. In a message dated 1/7/03 1:47:37 PM, parnelle@club-internet.fr writes: > Hi everybody >=20 > I purchased YDL 2.3 last summer ... and since then i experienced many a=20 > problem... > after successive reinstalls, now I can : (a) use apps (b) surf (DSL via=20 > DCHPPC2) (c) exchange files between Linux and Mac via a 250Mb Zip (MOL? ..= .=20 > ouch ... a litany of bugs next mail, I promise) ... not tooo baaaaad! >=20 > =A0here is the first problem(from a looooonnng list) >=20 > let me introduce the everlasting BUG: if I want to change session=20 > (user/root or Gnome/KDE) the only way for me is to reboot otherwise my=20 > cursor gets stuck on the screen: though it worked once "the desktop=3DGnom= e=20 > in place of dektop=3DKDE" trick recommended on the YDL site just doesn't=20 > change anything >=20 > anyone? help? >=20 >=20 > PS1: I upgraded everything via apt-get and guess what ... it's still there= =20 > !!!!! >=20 > (G4 Cube) >=20 --part1_b9.2c8d3436.2b4cc404_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Better lu= ck than me. I am about to file my YDL 2.3 disks with my AOL coaster c= ollection.

In a message dated 1/7/03 1:47:37 PM, parnelle@club-internet.fr writes:

Hi everybody

I purchased YDL 2.3 last summer ... and since then i experienced many a prob= lem...
after successive reinstalls, now I can : (a) use apps (b) surf (DSL via DCHP= PC2) (c) exchange files between Linux and Mac via a 250Mb Zip (MOL? ... ouch= ... a litany of bugs next mail, I promise) ... not tooo baaaaad!

=A0here is the first problem(from a looooonnng list)

let me introduce the everlasting= BUG: if I want to change session= (user/root or Gnome/KDE) the only way for me is to reboot otherwise my curs= or gets stuck on the screen: though it worked once "the desktop=3DGnome in p= lace of dektop=3DKDE" trick recommended on the YDL site just doesn't change=20= anything

anyone? help?

PS1: I upgraded everything via apt-get and guess what ... it's still there != !!!!

(G4 Cube)

--part1_b9.2c8d3436.2b4cc404_boundary-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed Jan 8 04:52:08 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Ted Goranson) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 23:52:08 -0500 Subject: Uninstall: how to get my partition back In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I installed YDL 2.1 on my Pismo as triple boot. Worked well, but now I am rearranging things. YDL goes on an old desktop and I wish to reclaim the disk space on the Pismo. I have a 20G disk that was divided equally among OSX, OS9 and YDL. My disk utilities can "see" the boot partition of 10M that I was easily able to make HFS+. How do I get the missing 6G back without trashing my other partitions? Best, Ted From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed Jan 8 06:57:14 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Ted Goranson) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 01:57:14 -0500 Subject: Uninstall: how to get my partition back In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >I installed YDL 2.1 on my Pismo as triple boot. Worked well, but >now I am rearranging things. YDL goes on an old desktop and I wish >to reclaim the disk space on the Pismo. > >I have a 20G disk that was divided equally among OSX, OS9 and YDL. >My disk utilities can "see" the boot partition of 10M that I was >easily able to make HFS+. How do I get the missing 6G back without >trashing my other partitions? > >Best, Ted Using an old copy of Hard Disk Toolkit, I was able to "delete" the SV partitions, but cannot figure how to turn these into HFS+ -- Ted Goranson Advanced Enterprise Research Office From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed Jan 8 07:37:31 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (B. Charles Reynolds) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 22:37:31 -0900 Subject: Uninstall: how to get my partition back In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <0B6C3F21-22DC-11D7-964A-003065DED364@mac.com> On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 09:57 PM, Ted Goranson wrote: >> I installed YDL 2.1 on my Pismo as triple boot. Worked well, but now >> I am rearranging things. YDL goes on an old desktop and I wish to >> reclaim the disk space on the Pismo. >> >> I have a 20G disk that was divided equally among OSX, OS9 and YDL. My >> disk utilities can "see" the boot partition of 10M that I was easily >> able to make HFS+. How do I get the missing 6G back without trashing >> my other partitions? >> >> Best, Ted > > Using an old copy of Hard Disk Toolkit, I was able to "delete" the SV > partitions, but cannot figure how to turn these into HFS+ Having not tried this myself, I strongly recommend a very healthy back-up before trying it: Now that the linux partitions are deleted, you _should_ be able to open Disk Utility and create a new HFS+ partition in the now empty space. __ ~ Charles "One OS to rule them all; one OS to find them; one OS to bring them all and in the darkness bind them." - Microsoft From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed Jan 8 07:47:31 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Ted Goranson) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 02:47:31 -0500 Subject: Uninstall: how to get my partition back In-Reply-To: <0B6C3F21-22DC-11D7-964A-003065DED364@mac.com> References: <0B6C3F21-22DC-11D7-964A-003065DED364@mac.com> Message-ID: >On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 09:57 PM, Ted Goranson wrote: > >>>I installed YDL 2.1 on my Pismo as triple boot. Worked well, but >>>now I am rearranging things. YDL goes on an old desktop and I wish >>>to reclaim the disk space on the Pismo. >>> >>>I have a 20G disk that was divided equally among OSX, OS9 and YDL. >>>My disk utilities can "see" the boot partition of 10M that I was >>>easily able to make HFS+. How do I get the missing 6G back without >>>trashing my other partitions? >>> >>>Best, Ted >> >>Using an old copy of Hard Disk Toolkit, I was able to "delete" the >>SV partitions, but cannot figure how to turn these into HFS+ > >Having not tried this myself, I strongly recommend a very healthy >back-up before trying it: > >Now that the linux partitions are deleted, you _should_ be able to >open Disk Utility and create a new HFS+ partition in the now empty >space. Don't think so. At least not without the warning that all info on all partitions will be erased. Best, Ted -- Ted Goranson Advanced Enterprise Research Office From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed Jan 8 16:38:52 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Marc Stergionis) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 09:38:52 -0700 Subject: Uninstall: how to get my partition back In-Reply-To: References: <0B6C3F21-22DC-11D7-964A-003065DED364@mac.com> Message-ID: At about 2:47 AM -0500 on 1/8/03, Ted Goranson wrote: >>On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 09:57 PM, Ted Goranson wrote: >> >>>>I installed YDL 2.1 on my Pismo as triple boot. Worked well, but >>>>now I am rearranging things. YDL goes on an old desktop and I >>>>wish to reclaim the disk space on the Pismo. >>>> >>>>I have a 20G disk that was divided equally among OSX, OS9 and >>>>YDL. My disk utilities can "see" the boot partition of 10M that I >>>>was easily able to make HFS+. How do I get the missing 6G back >>>>without trashing my other partitions? >>>> >>>>Best, Ted >>> >>>Using an old copy of Hard Disk Toolkit, I was able to "delete" the >>>SV partitions, but cannot figure how to turn these into HFS+ >> >>Having not tried this myself, I strongly recommend a very healthy >>back-up before trying it: >> >>Now that the linux partitions are deleted, you _should_ be able to >>open Disk Utility and create a new HFS+ partition in the now empty >>space. > >Don't think so. At least not without the warning that all info on >all partitions will be erased. Yes ... absolutely preferable to back up. Anyway, go back to HDT, select the drive and then select add or create volume in the menus (can't remember, don't have HDT on this machine, but it's there). You will then get a window allowing you to select how much of that free space to use, what to name it and what format (HFS+ etc.) -ms -- Many have Montana envy ... the lucky get to live here! Marc Stergionis Communications/Web Specialist Benefis Healthcare http://www.benefis.org "Opinions expressed are not necessarily those of my employer." From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed Jan 8 17:30:02 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Ted Goranson) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 12:30:02 -0500 Subject: Uninstall: how to get my partition back In-Reply-To: References: <0B6C3F21-22DC-11D7-964A-003065DED364@mac.com> Message-ID: >>>>>I installed YDL 2.1 on my Pismo as triple boot. Worked well, >>>>>but now I am rearranging things. YDL goes on an old desktop and >>>>>I wish to reclaim the disk space on the Pismo. >>>>> >>>>>I have a 20G disk that was divided equally among OSX, OS9 and >>>>>YDL. My disk utilities can "see" the boot partition of 10M that >>>>>I was easily able to make HFS+. How do I get the missing 6G back >>>>>without trashing my other partitions? >>>> >>>>Using an old copy of Hard Disk Toolkit, I was able to "delete" >>>>the SV partitions, but cannot figure how to turn these into HFS+ >>> >>>Having not tried this myself, I strongly recommend a very healthy >>>back-up before trying it: >>> >>>Now that the linux partitions are deleted, you _should_ be able to >>>open Disk Utility and create a new HFS+ partition in the now empty >>>space. >> >>Don't think so. At least not without the warning that all info on >>all partitions will be erased. > >Yes ... absolutely preferable to back up. Anyway, go back to HDT, >select the drive and then select add or create volume in the menus >(can't remember, don't have HDT on this machine, but it's there). >You will then get a window allowing you to select how much of that >free space to use, what to name it and what format (HFS+ etc.) My HDT is quite old -- 3.02, and doesn't seem to behave as you direct. I'll just take everything off and scrub the disk, I suppose, Best, Ted -- Ted Goranson Advanced Enterprise Research Office From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed Jan 8 18:02:43 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Marc Stergionis) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 11:02:43 -0700 Subject: Uninstall: how to get my partition back In-Reply-To: References: <0B6C3F21-22DC-11D7-964A-003065DED364@mac.com> Message-ID: At about 12:30 PM -0500 on 1/8/03, Ted Goranson wrote: >>Yes ... absolutely preferable to back up. Anyway, go back to HDT, >>select the drive and then select add or create volume in the menus >>(can't remember, don't have HDT on this machine, but it's there). >>You will then get a window allowing you to select how much of that >>free space to use, what to name it and what format (HFS+ etc.) > >My HDT is quite old -- 3.02, and doesn't seem to behave as you >direct. I'll just take everything off and scrub the disk, I suppose, Nothing wrong with backing up and reinitializing. But 3.02 is not that old. I'm quite certain there's a create volumes function ... what behavior are you getting? OK, I just found a backup of HDT 2.0.6. I forgot that HDT wants you to update drivers (to/with *their* drivers) in order to create volumes. This is usually not a big deal, with the usual caveat for a *current* backup. So it can be done. Of course if you're running OS X then your HD drivers will be a lot newer than the one installed by HDT 3.02. I would probably backup and reformat. -ms -- Many have Montana envy ... the lucky get to live here! Marc Stergionis Communications/Web Specialist Benefis Healthcare http://www.benefis.org "Opinions expressed are not necessarily those of my employer." From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed Jan 8 20:22:03 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Pisupati, Ajay) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 15:22:03 -0500 Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: <561EF908331D994F8C4F56D5BF907607528E91@pusmde02.mt.pweh.com> Hi, I recently installed YDL 2.3 on my ibook (nov 2002) and the one problem I keep having is this: once I start running x (doesn't matter if it's kde or fluxbox), and run xmms, after a little while, the trackpad freezes. There is nothing I can do but kill X. Even if I kill xmms once x is frozen, it doesn't matter, the trackpad is still frozen. Is anyone else having this problem? if so what is the solution? TIA ajay From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu Jan 9 03:32:59 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Greg Dougherty) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 19:32:59 -0800 Subject: Install without booting Message-ID: <20030108215634-r01010800-6c06a2d5-0910-0108@192.168.1.40> On 1/3/03, Bill Hughes writes: >>Hi all, >> >>I have a 9600 with a 500 MHz G3 card, that refuses to boot from a CD >>ROM (as in, it won't even SEE the CD drive if I boot without >>extensions. I went through 4 different Apple branded CDs w/o any >>luck, so I'm just giving up on this). >> >>I downloaded the YDL CD image, and burned it onto a disk. (IF I can >>get YDL installed and running on my computer, I'll buy the >>distribution, but given that my system is in the "should work" >>category, I figure there's no point buying until I know I'm not >>going to return it.) Is there any way for me to install Yellow Dog >>Linux onto my computer without booting from their CD? I have a >>completely blank 4 Gig SCSI HD I want to install it onto. >> >>TIA, >> >>Greg > > That's really strange behavior for any (insert flavor) G3 upgrade > card. Won't boot off of a CD at all? Are you sure that your SCSI bus > is setup correctly (ie-correct/proper termination, no Bus ID setting > conflicts, etc..)??? The CD is on the internal SCSI. it shares it with an empty / unallocated drive that I want to use as my Linux drive. Since the CD works just fine when I boot with extensions on, I'm assuming there are no termination issues (I have an APS tape drive (off) at the end of my external SCSI chain, with its "Active Termination" on, so I know everything is fine from that end :-) ). > Well, as long as you can still boot Mac OS, then you needn't worry > about it. The old world Macs have to boot into Mac OS "BEFORE"you > can boot into YDL, via the "Boot X App". Basicly just a C.Panel and > Extension that you install into your System Folder. It installs 2 > YDL RAMDisk Boot images, one terminal-based and one X (or GUI-based > if you prefer). After you install this, you restart (as long as you > have them enabled in Extensions Manager). The Boot X App is one of > the first loaded Extensions (on my 9500 w/XLR8MACh Carrier G3/500, > the XLR8 Extension/Splash Screen loads before Boot X, but I don't > know if you're hardware/software you're using, so YMMV) and will > give you 10 Seconds to decide if you want to boot Linux or MacOS. > > So basicly, to make all of the above seemingly pointless, as long as > you can access your CD-ROM drive AFTER booting into MacOS, you don't > have to have a Bootable CD-ROM drive. Ok. I copied the "Install" folder to my HD, uncompressed everything compressed / MacBinaried / BinHexed, and ran BootX_Installer. After about 5 minutes of thinking, it launched, and ran. So far, so good. Then I restarted my computer. I get the little box asking "Mac or Linux?" I select Linux. It starts booting. Oh happy day! Then it fails. VFS can't find any partitions. This doesn't surprise me, because nothing has given me the chance to create any partitions. How do I do that? TIA, Greg From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu Jan 9 06:14:22 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (B. Charles Reynolds) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 21:14:22 -0900 Subject: Uninstall: how to get my partition back In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <98299FFE-2399-11D7-B70C-003065DED364@mac.com> You could always mount the YDL disk in the drive (while running OS X) and use the pdisk utility.... I haven't used it. I suspect, however, that it will behave much like fdisk for the x86 world and try to format all of your partitions. :( On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 09:02 AM, Marc Stergionis wrote: > At about 12:30 PM -0500 on 1/8/03, Ted Goranson wrote: >>> Yes ... absolutely preferable to back up. Anyway, go back to HDT, >>> select the drive and then select add or create volume in the menus >>> (can't remember, don't have HDT on this machine, but it's there). >>> You will then get a window allowing you to select how much of that >>> free space to use, what to name it and what format (HFS+ etc.) >> >> My HDT is quite old -- 3.02, and doesn't seem to behave as you >> direct. I'll just take everything off and scrub the disk, I suppose, > > Nothing wrong with backing up and reinitializing. But 3.02 is not that > old. I'm quite certain there's a create volumes function ... what > behavior are you getting? > > OK, I just found a backup of HDT 2.0.6. I forgot that HDT wants you to > update drivers (to/with *their* drivers) in order to create volumes. > This is usually not a big deal, with the usual caveat for a *current* > backup. So it can be done. > > Of course if you're running OS X then your HD drivers will be a lot > newer than the one installed by HDT 3.02. I would probably backup and > reformat. > > -ms > -- > Many have Montana envy ... the lucky get to live here! > Marc Stergionis > Communications/Web Specialist > Benefis Healthcare http://www.benefis.org > "Opinions expressed are not necessarily those of my employer." > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > __ Charles Science-based, life-changing preventive health products ... and an outstanding business opportunity from a company you can trust. Learn more at http://www.reygroup.net E-mail: charlesreynolds@mac.com From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu Jan 9 15:33:22 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Marc Stergionis) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 08:33:22 -0700 Subject: Uninstall: how to get my partition back In-Reply-To: <98299FFE-2399-11D7-B70C-003065DED364@mac.com> References: <98299FFE-2399-11D7-B70C-003065DED364@mac.com> Message-ID: No pdisk won't try to reformat everything. What's bad is the daunting (to mac users) text interface where you have to input the block numbers and sizes that you want to repartition. And I don't recall that you actually *can* use pdisk to get a partition to go back to HFS ... Think I asked that on this list about a year ago (might want to check archives for "partition" and "HFS") ... and it may have been on the YDL General List, not the Newbie. :) -ms that At about 9:14 PM -0900 on 1/8/03, B. Charles Reynolds wrote: >You could always mount the YDL disk in the drive (while running OS >X) and use the pdisk utility.... I haven't used it. I suspect, >however, that it will behave much like fdisk for the x86 world and >try to format all of your partitions. :( > >On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 09:02 AM, Marc Stergionis wrote: > >>At about 12:30 PM -0500 on 1/8/03, Ted Goranson wrote: >>>>Yes ... absolutely preferable to back up. Anyway, go back to HDT, >>>>select the drive and then select add or create volume in the >>>>menus (can't remember, don't have HDT on this machine, but it's >>>>there). You will then get a window allowing you to select how >>>>much of that free space to use, what to name it and what format >>>>(HFS+ etc.) >>> >>>My HDT is quite old -- 3.02, and doesn't seem to behave as you >>>direct. I'll just take everything off and scrub the disk, I >>>suppose, >> >>Nothing wrong with backing up and reinitializing. But 3.02 is not >>that old. I'm quite certain there's a create volumes function ... >>what behavior are you getting? >> >>OK, I just found a backup of HDT 2.0.6. I forgot that HDT wants you >>to update drivers (to/with *their* drivers) in order to create >>volumes. This is usually not a big deal, with the usual caveat for >>a *current* backup. So it can be done. >> >>Of course if you're running OS X then your HD drivers will be a lot >>newer than the one installed by HDT 3.02. I would probably backup >>and reformat. -- Many have Montana envy ... the lucky get to live here! Marc Stergionis Communications/Web Specialist Benefis Healthcare http://www.benefis.org "Opinions expressed are not necessarily those of my employer." From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu Jan 9 16:08:27 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Pisupati, Ajay) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 11:08:27 -0500 Subject: trackpad locks after running xmms Message-ID: <561EF908331D994F8C4F56D5BF907607528E97@pusmde02.mt.pweh.com> hi, Whenever I startx (running either kde or fluxbox) and run xmms (for some reason, no other cd tool is working) on my nov2002 ibook, my trackpad freezes. the time it takes could range from 5 sec to 2 min before it freezes. but it always does. once it freezes, it stays fronzen no matter what I do. kill xmms, kill X and restart it etc. the only way to get it back is to reboot!. is anyone else having this problem? please help. TIA ajay From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu Jan 9 21:09:11 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Bill Hughes) Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 16:09:11 -0500 Subject: Install without booting (Greg Dougherty) Message-ID: <5FEFE503.76E71168.6A01E670@netscape.net> Ok. I copied the "Install" folder to my HD, uncompressed everything compressed / MacBinaried / BinHexed, and ran BootX_Installer. After about 5 minutes of thinking, it launched, and ran. So far, so good. Then I restarted my computer. I get the little box asking "Mac or Linux?" I select Linux. It starts booting. Oh happy day! Then it fails. VFS can't find any partitions. This doesn't surprise me, because nothing has given me the chance to create any partitions. How do I do that? TIA, Greg -- OK, here's a lil' lowdown for you. Boot into Mac OS (you CAN run the BootX utility from Mac OS) then open the Boot X Control Panel. You'll get the same "Choose your OS" box. Click the Tab that says "Options", you'll get another window "BootX Options", you'll have the following four buttons to choose from, they are []Set G3 cache []Force SCSI ON []Force video settings []Use specified RAM Disk (another button here called [Choose...] -check this one, then click on the Choose... to find your RAM Disk, which will give you two options: ramdisk-text.image.gz ramdisk-x11.image.gz (I use the text image because the ATI Radeon driver doesn't work either before or after install, which I hope to find someone who can help me fix this someday; hint, hint, hint...) choose one to open, then hit the "save to preferences" then hit Linux. From that point, you'll then get a Licsence Agreement, agree, then the installer will walk you through it the rest of the way. ___________________________________________________________ there's a sociopath within each of us waiting to miss the connection between an act and its' consequence -glenn cook __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu Jan 9 22:44:00 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Larson, Timothy E.) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 16:44:00 -0600 Subject: dhcp setup Message-ID: Hi. I'm new to this list, so please don't hurt me too bad. :) I've been trying to build a network at home with a Linksys router supplying IPs via DHCP. I've tried to follow the HOWTO's I've found online, but so far nothing is working. I know I'm close because booting pauses when initializing eth0, but the connection never gets made. Is there something peculiar to YDL that I'm not aware of? BTW, I am running YDL 2.1 on a PCP 210. Thanks, Tim -- Tim Larson <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< Info. Services - Internal Medicine Clinical Systems, Mayo Clinic, Rochester They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. I apologize for the irregular wrapping and quoting. I use MS Outlook. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu Jan 9 23:28:40 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (David Merwin) Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 15:28:40 -0800 Subject: dhcp setup In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3E1E05A8.3050200@asulos.com> Try upgrading to YDL 2.3. Solved the problem for me. Larson, Timothy E. wrote: > Hi. I'm new to this list, so please don't hurt me too bad. :) > > I've been trying to build a network at home with a Linksys router supplying IPs via DHCP. I've tried to follow the HOWTO's I've found online, but so far nothing is working. I know I'm close because booting pauses when initializing eth0, but the connection never gets made. Is there something peculiar to YDL that I'm not aware of? > > BTW, I am running YDL 2.1 on a PCP 210. > > Thanks, > Tim > -- David Merwin www.asulos.com dave@asulos.com (541) 684-0706 From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri Jan 10 00:40:19 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Mark) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 13:40:19 +1300 Subject: Uninstall: how to get my partition back In-Reply-To: Message-ID: hi all Yes you can use pdisk to make it HFS: 1:type e to edit a device (usually /dev/ata1.0) 2:type p to list the partition map for that device 3:type d to delete a partition, if necessary (it will ask you what number) 4:type p again to see the results 5:type C to make a new partition (note caps. mean you can specify type. lowercase c will make an ext2(?) partition by default enter the start block (listed in map above) enter the size (listed next to the start block, can use a fraction and then create another) enter a name (can be fussy sometimes...I think some names are reserved) enter the type (Apple_HFS ) 6:type p to check what you've done 7:type w to write it done! Then when you reboot, you can initialise it as HFS+ through MacOS. Just remember that pdisk doesn't change anything until you tell it too (thankfully) and you can check to see if you've done it right before writing the partition table. Having said that, the usual caveats apply about making backups etc etc Hope it all helps Mark > From: Marc Stergionis > Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 08:33:22 -0700 > To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > Subject: Re: Uninstall: how to get my partition back > > No pdisk won't try to reformat everything. What's bad is the daunting > (to mac users) text interface where you have to input the block > numbers and sizes that you want to repartition. > > And I don't recall that you actually *can* use pdisk to get a > partition to go back to HFS ... Think I asked that on this list > about a year ago (might want to check archives for "partition" and > "HFS") ... and it may have been on the YDL General List, not the > Newbie. > > :) > > -ms > > that At about 9:14 PM -0900 on 1/8/03, B. Charles Reynolds wrote: >> You could always mount the YDL disk in the drive (while running OS >> X) and use the pdisk utility.... I haven't used it. I suspect, >> however, that it will behave much like fdisk for the x86 world and >> try to format all of your partitions. :( >> >> On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 09:02 AM, Marc Stergionis wrote: >> >>> At about 12:30 PM -0500 on 1/8/03, Ted Goranson wrote: >>>>> Yes ... absolutely preferable to back up. Anyway, go back to HDT, >>>>> select the drive and then select add or create volume in the >>>>> menus (can't remember, don't have HDT on this machine, but it's >>>>> there). You will then get a window allowing you to select how >>>>> much of that free space to use, what to name it and what format >>>>> (HFS+ etc.) >>>> >>>> My HDT is quite old -- 3.02, and doesn't seem to behave as you >>>> direct. I'll just take everything off and scrub the disk, I >>>> suppose, >>> >>> Nothing wrong with backing up and reinitializing. But 3.02 is not >>> that old. I'm quite certain there's a create volumes function ... >>> what behavior are you getting? >>> >>> OK, I just found a backup of HDT 2.0.6. I forgot that HDT wants you >>> to update drivers (to/with *their* drivers) in order to create >>> volumes. This is usually not a big deal, with the usual caveat for >>> a *current* backup. So it can be done. >>> >>> Of course if you're running OS X then your HD drivers will be a lot >>> newer than the one installed by HDT 3.02. I would probably backup >>> and reformat. > > -- > Many have Montana envy ... the lucky get to live here! > Marc Stergionis > Communications/Web Specialist > Benefis Healthcare http://www.benefis.org > "Opinions expressed are not necessarily those of my employer." > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri Jan 10 21:26:41 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Samuel Flory) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 13:26:41 -0800 Subject: dhcp setup References: <3E1E05A8.3050200@asulos.com> Message-ID: <3E1F3A91.3050502@rackable.com> David Merwin wrote: > Try upgrading to YDL 2.3. Solved the problem for me. > > Larson, Timothy E. wrote: > >> Hi. I'm new to this list, so please don't hurt me too bad. :) >> >> I've been trying to build a network at home with a Linksys router >> supplying IPs via DHCP. I've tried to follow the HOWTO's I've found >> online, but so far nothing is working. I know I'm close because >> booting pauses when initializing eth0, but the connection never gets >> made. Is there something peculiar to YDL that I'm not aware of? >> >> BTW, I am running YDL 2.1 on a PCP 210. >> >> Thanks, >> Tim >> > I'm using a linksys router/firewall at home with YD 2.3. I've never had an issue getting a ip address with any OS I've run. (Win9x, OSX, RH6.3-8.0 as well) Check to see if the kernel see your ethernet interface at all. `ifconfig eth0` Run your dhcp client by hand. `dhcpcd eth0` or `pump eth0`. -- There is no such thing as obsolete hardware. Merely hardware that other people don't want. (The Second Rule of Hardware Acquisition) Sam Flory From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun Jan 12 03:06:59 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Charles Hessifer) Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 19:06:59 -0800 Subject: PowerBook G4 Titanium w/ ATI Radeon 9500 Message-ID: <5DA785C92D04A546B09F992FBC25C55E8CAA23@gs-exch1.guidancesoftware.com> Has anyone been able to get X up and running on a PowerBook w/ a similar configuration? YDL seems to run smoothly from the command line, but I am unable to get X working properly. Is the PB G4 Ti supported yet? I checked on the website and it appears as though Terra Soft Solutions sells the PB G4 Ti with a configuration of YDL on it. Any help or reference would be appreciated. Charles Hessifer=20 From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun Jan 12 11:29:22 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Brian) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 11:29:22 +0000 Subject: Higher resolutions on MultiScan 1705 display Message-ID: <200301121129.22571.Froggie712@earthlink.net> I recently installed YDL 2.3 on my 8500 with a MultiScan 1705 display. =20 Everything works great except for the fact that I can only use an 800x600= =20 screen resolution in X, regardless of the color depth (I know the monitor= =20 supports higher because I've used 1024x768 in MacOS). Using Xconfigurato= r to=20 set the resolution any higher always produces the same result: when I run= =20 startx the monitor goes to "sleep" but the machine apparently continues t= o=20 function because eventually I hear KDE's startup chime. Any advice would= be=20 greatly appreciated. Thanks. -Brian Winter From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun Jan 12 16:49:01 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (David Merwin) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 08:49:01 -0800 Subject: Higher resolutions on MultiScan 1705 display References: <200301121129.22571.Froggie712@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <3E219C7D.20101@asulos.com> Ok, try this, as root: cd /etc/X11 pico (or vi... what ever) XF86Config-4 Scroll down to the line that starts: Section "Screen" What you are lookign for is the "SubSection" as follows... SubSection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "--ok this should be set to 600x800--Change it to the resolution that you want in this case 1024 x 768" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual --ok this should be set to 600x800--Change it to the resolution that you want in this case 1024 x 768 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "--ok this should be set to 600x800--Change it to the resolution that you want in this case 1024 x 768" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual --ok this should be set to 600x800--Change it to the resolution that you want in this case 1024 x 768 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "--ok this should be set to 600x800--Change it to the resolution that you want in this case 1024 x 768" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual --ok this should be set to 600x800--Change it to the resolution that you want in this case 1024 x 768 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 32 Modes "--ok this should be set to 600x800--Change it to the resolution that you want in this case 1024 x 768" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual --ok this should be set to 600x800--Change it to the resolution that you want in this case 1024 x 768 EndSubSection Save and rstart x. Should work. On e other note. The cool thing about KDE (maybe Gnome?) i sthat you can zoom the desktop with the + or - key commands. To do this, use the list of resolutions in mode. Like this: 1024 x 768 800 x 600 640 x 480. Hope this helps. David Merwin dave@asulos.com Brian wrote: >I recently installed YDL 2.3 on my 8500 with a MultiScan 1705 display. >Everything works great except for the fact that I can only use an 800x600 >screen resolution in X, regardless of the color depth (I know the monitor >supports higher because I've used 1024x768 in MacOS). Using Xconfigurator to >set the resolution any higher always produces the same result: when I run >startx the monitor goes to "sleep" but the machine apparently continues to >function because eventually I hear KDE's startup chime. Any advice would be >greatly appreciated. Thanks. > >-Brian Winter >_______________________________________________ >yellowdog-newbie mailing list >yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > > > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon Jan 13 00:57:47 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (John Larreta) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 16:57:47 -0800 Subject: Network device Problem Message-ID: Hi, I'm trying to install YDL 2.3 on my Performa PPC 6400/180 32MB RAM. When I choose the Home/Office setup in begins to transfer pckgs, but then tells me that there is an OS error 2, can not locate network device no such file or directory. PLEASE HELP! Thanks, john From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon Jan 13 03:28:04 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Robert) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 20:28:04 -0700 Subject: Installing Yellow Dog Linux on iMac Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030112202402.00b13668@mail.access4less.net> I have problem with my iMac. When I boot into Mac OS CD and re-format the hard drive into UNIX format and restart. The computer screen appears with gray background with "?" mark on folder, I tried to boot from Yellow Dog Linux CD and Mac OS CD, I am still getting "?" mark. My computer couldn't find CD driver or Hard Drive. Do you have suggestion about this? Thank you. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon Jan 13 07:34:05 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Jennifer Waters) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 23:34:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: <20030113073405.85466.qmail@web21207.mail.yahoo.com> __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon Jan 13 11:10:48 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (William Moore) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 11:10:48 +0000 Subject: Disk size Message-ID: Hello. I'm planning to install YDL 2.3 on a Mac 8200 (same as as 7200, but never sold in the US). Before I do this, I need to have some idea of the minimum configuration which will be required. In particular the minimum RAM to give reasonable performance (i know "reasonable" is subjective, but any ideas would be useful - 64MB, 128MB 256MB....) and the minimum size of disk required for the installation. TIA William From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon Jan 13 12:37:39 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Jerry Grubbs) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 07:37:39 -0500 Subject: Installing Yellow Dog Linux on iMac In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030112202402.00b13668@mail.access4less.net> Message-ID: Robert, Looks like you might have wiped out your Operating System. When You get the "?" it usually means the computer does not see a boot system. You did not say if you are running 2 drives or not so I am assuming you are running one. Looks like you need to reinstall your operating system OS 9.2.2 or OSX> Jerry On Sunday, January 12, 2003, at 10:28 PM, Robert wrote: > I have problem with my iMac. When I boot into Mac OS CD and re-format > the hard drive into UNIX format and restart. > > The computer screen appears with gray background with "?" mark on > folder, I tried to boot from Yellow Dog Linux CD and Mac OS CD, I am > still getting "?" mark. > > My computer couldn't find CD driver or Hard Drive. > Do you have suggestion about this? > > Thank you. > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon Jan 13 13:48:55 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Larson, Timothy E.) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 07:48:55 -0600 Subject: dhcp setup Message-ID: >Try upgrading to YDL 2.3. Solved the problem for me. I've heard of people having compatibility problems with older machines when using 2.3, so I've avoided it so far. However, since I'm still not networked (obviously) the easiest way to get to the point of being able to update various software packages I want to use is probably to just install 2.3 from CD, which will also give me those other packages I want. Still, I'd like to figure out how to set this up. If 2.1 just has a problem with DHCP that no amount of twiddling on my part will fix, OK, but half the point of doing this (for me) is learning stuff. Tim -- Tim Larson <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< Info. Services - Internal Medicine Clinical Systems, Mayo Clinic, Rochester They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. I apologize for the irregular wrapping and quoting. I use MS Outlook. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon Jan 13 13:50:46 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Larson, Timothy E.) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 07:50:46 -0600 Subject: dhcp setup Message-ID: > I'm using a linksys router/firewall at home with YD 2.3. I've never >had an issue getting a ip address with any OS I've run. (Win9x, OSX, >RH6.3-8.0 as well) Check to see if the kernel see your ethernet >interface at all. `ifconfig eth0` Run your dhcp client by hand. > `dhcpcd eth0` or `pump eth0`. Yeah, done those. It "thinks" for a bit, and the LEDs on the router blink for a few seconds, but it never gets a lease. Tim -- Tim Larson <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< Info. Services - Internal Medicine Clinical Systems, Mayo Clinic, Rochester They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. I apologize for the irregular wrapping and quoting. I use MS Outlook. > End of yellowdog-newbie Digest From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon Jan 13 15:10:28 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Chuck Coleman) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 07:10:28 -0800 Subject: Disk size In-Reply-To: Message-ID: on 1/13/03 3:10 AM, William Moore at williammoore@mac.com wrote: > Hello. > > I'm planning to install YDL 2.3 on a Mac 8200 (same as as 7200, but > never sold in the US). Before I do this, I need to have some idea of > the minimum configuration which will be required. In particular the > minimum RAM to give reasonable performance (i know "reasonable" is > subjective, but any ideas would be useful - 64MB, 128MB 256MB....) and > the minimum size of disk required for the installation. > > TIA > > William I suggest 100MB for boot, 128MB for swap and 3GB for Linux. RAM requirements are variable. The more RAM the less pageouts and the faster the performance. I would run at least 256MB for reasonable performance. 512 would be better of course. If you run 64MB expect it to be really slow due to excessive disk usage. I have 1GB in one machine and there are no pageouts and it is much faster than a similar machine with only 128MB. Chuck Coleman ---------------------------------------- Put an end to bad service BOYCOTT MACMall/MAC-CLUB/PCMall http://www.macintouch.com/macmall01.html From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon Jan 13 15:13:39 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Chuck Coleman) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 07:13:39 -0800 Subject: dhcp setup In-Reply-To: Message-ID: on 1/9/03 2:44 PM, Larson, Timothy E. at Larson.Timothy1@mayo.edu wrote: > I've been trying to build a network at home with a Linksys router supplying > IPs via DHCP. I've tried to follow the HOWTO's I've found online, but so far > nothing is working. I know I'm close because booting pauses when initializing > eth0, but the connection never gets made. Is there something peculiar to YDL > that I'm not aware of? Use the expert option and enter the gateway address. This is where most people fall short in setting up the DHCP Ethernet connection. Chuck Coleman ---------------------------------------- Put an end to bad service BOYCOTT MACMall/MAC-CLUB/PCMall http://www.macintouch.com/macmall01.html From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon Jan 13 16:20:04 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (John McKee) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 09:20:04 -0700 Subject: X on Powerbook G3 Wallstreet Message-ID:

Hi,

I've got a G3 Powerbook, Wallstreet, that's been giving me fits.

The install worked, apparently, just fine. When I restarted for the first time, the screen was split into quadrants. I looked around the mailing lists and found that passing the kernel argument to BootX ( video=atyfb:vmode:14 ) resolved the quadrant'ed screen on boot up.

But now, I can't get it to start X. It gives a [fatal server error: no screens] [X10: fatal IO error 104 (connection reset by peer) on X Server ":0.0"] message. I've run XConfigurator (I don't know how many times) selecting the G3 monitors and different resolutions, and it still keeps giving me these errors.

What can I do?

Thanks,

John McKee

Computer Geex, Inc.

Protect your PC - Click here for McAfee.com VirusScan Online From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue Jan 14 02:56:11 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (kaywan joseph mansubi) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 18:56:11 -0800 Subject: Installing Yellow Dog Linux on iMac Message-ID: <3E237C4B.9090706@mansubi.com> Robert wrote: I have problem with my iMac. When I boot into Mac OS CD and re-format the hard drive into UNIX format and restart. The computer screen appears with gray background with "?" mark on folder, I tried to boot from Yellow Dog Linux CD and Mac OS CD, I am still getting "?" mark. My computer couldn't find CD driver or Hard Drive. Do you have suggestion about this? Thank you. ---- as per installation instructions, the partition for ydl should be formated as unallocated. the mac os9 partition as standard and the osx partition extended. I had no problems with a ydl installation on my iMac 333mhz with os 9. remember to hold down the c key to boot from the ydl cdrom. reference: http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/support/installation/guide.shtml quote: 9. Select the first (top) partition and where the pull-down menu displays "Mac OS Extended", select "unallocated". Select the second (bottom) partition and then "Mac OS Standard".** If you are to install Mac OS X, the 3rd and last partition should be formatted as "Mac OS Extended". ---- Kaywan From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue Jan 14 16:26:14 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Beartooth) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 11:26:14 -0500 (EST) Subject: Is there a kind Samaritan in 423? Message-ID: I'm down here in area code 423 (East TN outside Knoxville -- actually a little East of Newport), visiting kinfolk, trying to use a new and flaky dialup; the ISP tech talked me through connecting with OSX (which is driving me stark raving mad; can't ever find anything, let alone do anything), and I can't seem to make a linux connection out of it. (I run OSX 10.1.5 and YellowDogLinux 2.3 on an iBook G3 from Terrasoft.) If anyone can help, please this once email me direct at . I can ssh into my usual shell account at home for email, but have my subscriptions to both these lists set on nomail till I get home, lest the bandwidth I can't get to should bust my inbox quota. I tried just doing the obvious, and got nowhere. then I hollered for help, and DanB kindly sent me to http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/support/solutions/ydl_general/modem_dialup.shtml I've spent a day or so each with kppp and wvdial, just trying one change after another. Once I got far enough to be told it was initializing the modem, I thought I was getting places; but the log just kept showing the same old stuff instead of the expected responses. So I would abort and go back into setup. Then yesterday I made some one other change -- which might have been putting the hyphen into the phone number. Now it gets to about the same point as before -- and then suddenly both the kppp window itself and the log window simply evaporate.I have to go clear back to main menu and reopen kppp to try again. Well, I thought, maybe it's connecting at last, and just not saying so. So I tried calling up web sites already in Konqueror -- one every sixty seconds or so. "cannot find" every time, and not afaik because of privoxy; that was working before. I'll test today by turning off the proxy (if it's on), and by trying Opera and Galeon. But I'll be amazed if anything works. I also haven't tried ssh in a terminal, and maybe should: I do my mail with pine in a shell account at an ISP in MD that I ssh into. If there's a way I can get into the YDL partition with OSX, to copy&paste logs or configurations, I don't know what it is.... -- RR 'Beartooth' Neuswanger Double Retiree, Linuxer's Apprentice, Curmudgeon On Line This message was created in a MS-free computing environment. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue Jan 14 21:55:56 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Larson, Timothy E.) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 15:55:56 -0600 Subject: YDL 2.1 -> 2.3 Message-ID: Are there any tricks or gotchas to performing an upgrade (as opposed to new installation) that I should be aware of? Thanks in advance, Tim -- Tim Larson <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< Info. Services - Internal Medicine Clinical Systems, Mayo Clinic, Rochester They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. I apologize for the irregular wrapping and quoting. I use MS Outlook. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue Jan 14 17:10:25 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Joe Villari) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 17:10:25 +0000 Subject: YDL 2.1 -> 2.3 References: Message-ID: <3E244481.2050508@pipeline.com> It's not worth the effort and aggrevation. You'll need to get apt and then get it working under 2.1. I had to change the glibc packages and that was a time consuming waste of time. Nothing worked easily. I bailed out and did an install, it was the easiest thing to do. Joe Larson, Timothy E. wrote: >Are there any tricks or gotchas to performing an upgrade (as opposed to new installation) that I should be aware of? > >Thanks in advance, >Tim > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue Jan 14 22:17:58 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Larson, Timothy E.) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 16:17:58 -0600 Subject: YDL 2.1 -> 2.3 Message-ID: Sorry if I wasn't clear. I installed 2.1 from CD to my HD. I have 2.3 on CD also, which I will put on the same HD. Am I going to run into problems installing 2.3 on a HD that already has 2.1 on it? Thanks, Tim -- Tim Larson <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< Info. Services - Internal Medicine Clinical Systems, Mayo Clinic, Rochester They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. I apologize for the irregular wrapping and quoting. I use MS Outlook. > -----Original Message----- > > It's not worth the effort and aggrevation. You'll need to get apt and > then get it working under 2.1. I had to change the glibc packages and > that was a time consuming waste of time. Nothing worked easily. I bailed > out and did an install, it was the easiest thing to do. > > Joe > > Larson, Timothy E. wrote: > > >Are there any tricks or gotchas to performing an upgrade (as opposed to new installation) that I should be aware of? > > > >Thanks in advance, > >Tim > > > > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue Jan 14 17:30:22 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Joe Villari) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 17:30:22 +0000 Subject: YDL 2.1 -> 2.3 References: Message-ID: <3E24492E.4070809@pipeline.com> Sorry about that Tim. I dunno the answer to that. Joe Larson, Timothy E. wrote: >Sorry if I wasn't clear. I installed 2.1 from CD to my HD. I have 2.3 on CD also, which I will put on the same HD. Am I going to run into problems installing 2.3 on a HD that already has 2.1 on it? > >Thanks, >Tim > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed Jan 15 01:44:26 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (thinker) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 01:44:26 +0000 Subject: re Message-ID: <200301150144.26393.celtic@moondog.net> confirm 670111 --=20 From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed Jan 15 08:44:06 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (B. Charles Reynolds) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 23:44:06 -0900 Subject: YDL 2.1 -> 2.3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <81C15887-2865-11D7-8380-003065DED364@mac.com> I haven't tried this, but I suspect that the installer will simply ask you if you want to upgrade the system. Most of x86 distros do this (RedHat, Debian, Mandrake, SuSE, etc.) so I can't imagine how the YDL team could have overlooked it. There may be some hidden problems, though (I had a helluva time troubleshooting after RH7.2 ->8.0 upgrade. Finally wiped the whole thing and installed SourceMage). On Tuesday, January 14, 2003, at 01:17 PM, Larson, Timothy E. wrote: > Sorry if I wasn't clear. I installed 2.1 from CD to my HD. I have > 2.3 on CD also, which I will put on the same HD. Am I going to run > into problems installing 2.3 on a HD that already has 2.1 on it? > > Thanks, > Tim > > -- > Tim Larson <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< > Info. Services - Internal Medicine Clinical Systems, Mayo Clinic, > Rochester > They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. > I apologize for the irregular wrapping and quoting. I use MS Outlook. > >> -----Original Message----- >> >> It's not worth the effort and aggrevation. You'll need to get apt and >> then get it working under 2.1. I had to change the glibc packages and >> that was a time consuming waste of time. Nothing worked easily. I >> bailed >> out and did an install, it was the easiest thing to do. >> >> Joe >> >> Larson, Timothy E. wrote: >> >>> Are there any tricks or gotchas to performing an upgrade (as opposed >>> to new installation) that I should be aware of? >>> >>> Thanks in advance, >>> Tim >>> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > === ~ Charles From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed Jan 15 19:19:56 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Jose M Farina) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 14:19:56 -0500 Subject: Sound in Ibook YDL 2.3 Message-ID: <54EF722C-28BE-11D7-8239-0003935301D2@Brown.edu> I'm running YDL 2.3 and I got not sound from the cd-player I tried and followed all the instructions related with XMMS settings, etc from the list and how to web page and nothing happened. any help will be appreciated thanks JM Farina From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu Jan 16 01:18:09 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (David Merwin) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 17:18:09 -0800 Subject: OpenGL on the WallStreet G3 Message-ID: <3E260851.3040701@asulos.com> I can't seem to get OpenGL setup. It won't show up as enabled. Any ideas? From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu Jan 16 05:46:52 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Nicholas Walker) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 21:46:52 -0800 Subject: Install problems: YDL 2.3 Message-ID: I tried to install YDL onto a partition of a iBook 600MHz running OS X.1.5. OS X was installed on another partition. I downloaded the iso CD image from the YDL website for YDL 2.3. It boots fine from the burned CD, but when it gets to the point in the install process where it has to find the CD/DVD drive I get an error message saying the CD/DVD drive could not be found. How do I get around this? Nicholas From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu Jan 16 07:06:07 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (John Larreta) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 23:06:07 -0800 Subject: Browser Not Loading Message-ID: <3E2659DF.5080805@earthlink.net> Hi, I finally got my modem recognized on YDL 2.3. I'm using a G3 b/w and when I dial-up (yes dial-up) I can't seem to load any web pages using konqueror or Mozilla. Can anyone help? I'm also having some trouble hanging up. Thanks for any input, john From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri Jan 17 11:31:27 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Joseph Syjuco) Date: 17 Jan 2003 11:31:27 +0000 Subject: suggested avi and swf player for yellow dog Message-ID: <1042803096.1748.4.camel@Falcon> hi whats a good avi and swf player for yellow dog From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri Jan 17 11:32:52 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Joseph Syjuco) Date: 17 Jan 2003 11:32:52 +0000 Subject: no sound in xine Message-ID: <1042803180.1735.7.camel@Falcon> i installed xine on my yellow dog ... tried testing sounds using yellow dog's sytem bells and alarms and it works but when i play a mpeg in xine it has no sound ... what should i do From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat Jan 18 08:55:19 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (B. Charles Reynolds) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 23:55:19 -0900 Subject: suggested avi and swf player for yellow dog In-Reply-To: <1042803096.1748.4.camel@Falcon> Message-ID: <926BF07F-2AC2-11D7-B1F5-003065DED364@mac.com> mplayer or xine _should_ work for these. Don't take my word for it, though. I couldn't get either one to install, let alone function (went with Ogle for my DVD needs; don't mess with other DV formats much). On Friday, January 17, 2003, at 02:31 AM, Joseph Syjuco wrote: > hi > whats a good avi and swf player for yellow dog __ Charles Would you like to benefit from the online explosion? Learn about the most exciting opportunity on the Internet today, visit http://www.reygroup.net E-mail: charlesreynolds@mac.com From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat Jan 18 17:27:31 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Beartooth) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 12:27:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: TS/YDL as own enemy?? Message-ID: As some of you may recall, I've been beating my brains out against kppp and wvdial for many days, trying to make this ibook -- on which I have both a virtually trouble-free wired dialup connection (here) *and* a wireless DSL one (at home) under OSX -- connect under YDL. Last night came a thought -- long after it should've, no doubt. When I slugged my way through the YDL manual, establishing the wireless connection last fall under OSX, it very properly just added that to the array of choices it presents for connecting, after bootup and login. But when I then fought that configuration onto the YDL partition, using both the manual and the indispensable update to it in the ydl.net howto, it made it a default, and put it into the boot sequence. To this day, YDL brings up both eth0 and then ppp1, without even stopping for breath, at every boot.And OSX makes no connection till I tell it. And no matter how I batter my electrons into insensibility, tweaking myself blue in the face with kppp and wvdial, the machine gets only as far as "Initializing modem" -- and then suddenly reports failure, before OSX'd've had time to dial (over a pulse line!), let alone negotiate the connection with the ISP. Question 1: is it failing because YDL *thinks* it has broadband (even though there's no WiFi within miles)? I.e., does it actually abort rather than fail, imagining it knows what I'm doing better than I do? Question 2: if so, how do I obviate without losing the DHCP wireless capability, the one I use most? Surely many if not most laptop owners go crisscross among a variety of connections; one would expect YDL to offer the same choices at the same point as OSX, not by imitation, but because that's the sensible way. Plea 1: Please, for the love of sanity, tell me 3.0 is going to do so, any day now! I *will* get back to broadband, I *will* download, and I *will* upgrade -- if only in hope to escape my routine kernel panics ... Question 3: Which way is electronically up, anyhow? Plea 2: Since I still have my subscriptions to these lists set on nomail, till I get back to my broadband and can handle them, please copy any responses direct to me at Lserv.com.TIA! The One And Only Apple Interface (OAOAI) may be true apostolic and salvation-bringing to those adept in the ilk, so that they imagine it 'natural', 'easy', and even (God save the mark!) 'intuitive' because they're so used to it -- but it's a howling desert to me. -- Beartooth the Stubborn double retiree, linuxers' apprentice, curmudgeon online pine 4.43 on ISP's SunOS 5.8; RH 8.0, YDL 2.3, OSX 10.1.5 Privoxy 3.0.0; Phoenix 0.5, Opera 6.03, Galeon 1.2.5 Keep in mind that I have little idea what I'm asking about. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun Jan 19 02:26:25 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Fred Laxton) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 21:26:25 -0500 Subject: TS/YDL as own enemy?? References: Message-ID: <3E2A0CD1.9080503@laxton.net> I can't help you with the modem problem, but I regularly switch between ethernet and wireless, using a script. I just set it up so that the wireless connection starts up by default, which is what I normally use. Here are the two scripts: eth0.sh: /sbin/ifconfig eth0 up /sbin/ifconfig eth1 down /sbin/route add default gw 192.168.0.1 wireless.sh: /sbin/ifconfig eth0 down /sbin/ifconfig eth1 192.168.0.5 netmask 255.255.255.0 /sbin/ifconfig eth1 up /sbin/iwconfig eth1 mode Managed /sbin/iwconfig eth1 essid xxxxxxxxxx /sbin/iwconfig eth1 key xxxxxxxxxx /sbin/iwconfig eth1 rate auto I modified my /etc/rc.local to run wireless.sh when the computer boots. HTH, Fred Beartooth wrote: > As some of you may recall, I've been beating my brains out > against kppp and wvdial for many days, trying to make this ibook -- > on which I have both a virtually trouble-free wired dialup > connection (here) *and* a wireless DSL one (at home) under OSX -- > connect under YDL. > > Last night came a thought -- long after it should've, no > doubt. When I slugged my way through the YDL manual, establishing > the wireless connection last fall under OSX, it very properly just > added that to the array of choices it presents for connecting, > after bootup and login. But when I then fought that configuration > onto the YDL partition, using both the manual and the indispensable > update to it in the ydl.net howto, it made it a default, and put it > into the boot sequence. > > To this day, YDL brings up both eth0 and then ppp1, without > even stopping for breath, at every boot.And OSX makes no connection > till I tell it. > > And no matter how I batter my electrons into insensibility, > tweaking myself blue in the face with kppp and wvdial, the machine > gets only as far as "Initializing modem" -- and then suddenly > reports failure, before OSX'd've had time to dial (over a pulse > line!), let alone negotiate the connection with the ISP. > > Question 1: is it failing because YDL *thinks* it has > broadband (even though there's no WiFi within miles)? I.e., does it > actually abort rather than fail, imagining it knows what I'm doing > better than I do? > > Question 2: if so, how do I obviate without losing the DHCP > wireless capability, the one I use most? Surely many if not most > laptop owners go crisscross among a variety of connections; one > would expect YDL to offer the same choices at the same point as > OSX, not by imitation, but because that's the sensible way. > > Plea 1: Please, for the love of sanity, tell me 3.0 is > going to do so, any day now! I *will* get back to broadband, I > *will* download, and I *will* upgrade -- if only in hope to escape > my routine kernel panics ... > > Question 3: Which way is electronically up, anyhow? grin> > > Plea 2: Since I still have my subscriptions to these lists > set on nomail, till I get back to my broadband and can handle them, > please copy any responses direct to me at Lserv.com.TIA! > > The One And Only Apple Interface (OAOAI) may be true > apostolic and salvation-bringing to those adept in the ilk, so that > they imagine it 'natural', 'easy', and even (God save the mark!) > 'intuitive' because they're so used to it -- but it's a howling > desert to me. -- -- Fred Laxton InfoTechDesign.net - Classic Web Design & Hosting http://infotechdesign.net My contact information: http://infotechdesign.net/my_contact_information.htm Powered by Yellow Dog Linux and Mandrake Linux Registered Linux user #246414 From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun Jan 19 09:13:31 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Jean Pierre Miani) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 10:13:31 +0100 Subject: Problem with ethernet on 15" LCD Imac Message-ID: <002701c2bf9b$0981e8e0$6a64a8c0@miani1> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C2BFA3.6B30CD10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a 15"LCD Imac with YDL 2.3 installed. Evrything seems to go ok but when i want to connect to the internet the = ethernet interface won't connect. I have chosen static IP because when i selected DHCP it would not pick = it up. The problem is that ocourse it cen send a pin to itself but does = not see the rest of mij network. Tested the cables and evrything is ok. Just 30 minutes before installing YDL 2.3 i was surfing with OS X. The = systems is using it's sungem driver, it detects the card imediatly when = installing YDL. What is wrong?? can anybody please help. THanks,=20 JP ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C2BFA3.6B30CD10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have a 15"LCD Imac with YDL = 2.3=20 installed.

Evrything seems to go ok but when i = want to connect=20 to the internet the ethernet interface won't connect.

I have chosen static IP because = when i=20 selected DHCP it would not pick it up. The=20 problem is that ocourse it cen send a pin to itself but does not see the = rest of=20 mij network.

Tested the cables and evrything is = ok.

Just 30 minutes before installing YDL = 2.3 i was=20 surfing with OS X. The systems is using it's sungem driver, it detects = the card=20 imediatly when installing YDL.

What is wrong?? can anybody please=20 help.

THanks,

------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C2BFA3.6B30CD10-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun Jan 19 16:34:29 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Chuck Coleman) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 08:34:29 -0800 Subject: Problem with ethernet on 15" LCD Imac In-Reply-To: <002701c2bf9b$0981e8e0$6a64a8c0@miani1> Message-ID: > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3125815837_288875 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable on 1/19/03 1:13 AM, Jean Pierre Miani at jmiani@xs4all.nl wrote: > I have chosen static IP because when i selected DHCP it would not pick it= up. You have to set the gateway. If you don=B9t put in the gateway address then neither DHCP or static IP will not work. I suggest going back to DHCP since there were some issues with static IP on YDL. As long as your system is set up to do DHCP of course. Chuck Coleman ---------------------------------------- Put an end to bad service BOYCOTT MACMall/MAC-CLUB/PCMall http://www.macintouch.com/macmall01.html --B_3125815837_288875 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: Problem with ethernet on 15" LCD Imac on 1/19/03 1:13 AM, Jean Pierre Miani at jmiani@xs4all= .nl wrote:

I have chosen static I= P because when i selected DHCP it would not pick it up.

You have to set the gateway. If you don’t put in the gateway address = then neither DHCP or static IP will not work. I suggest going back to DHCP s= ince there were some issues with static IP on YDL. As long as your system is= set up to do DHCP of course.

Chuck Coleman
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--B_3125815837_288875-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun Jan 19 18:28:05 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Jean Pierre Miani) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 19:28:05 +0100 Subject: Problem with ethernet on 15" LCD Imac References: Message-ID: <000b01c2bfe8$82412320$6a64a8c0@miani1> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C2BFF0.E39C9020 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Problem with ethernet on 15" LCD ImacThanks Chuck, I will try this = but i'm not shure that it is going to work. When i look at my hub it shows no connection, this is te hardware level = so somthing must be wrong with the ydl ethernet driver for the LCD Imac. As i know fur sure that the connection is ok.(worked 10-20 minutes prior = to ydl install) JP ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Chuck Coleman=20 To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com=20 Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 5:34 PM Subject: Re: Problem with ethernet on 15" LCD Imac on 1/19/03 1:13 AM, Jean Pierre Miani at jmiani@xs4all.nl wrote: I have chosen static IP because when i selected DHCP it would not = pick it up. You have to set the gateway. If you don't put in the gateway address = then neither DHCP or static IP will not work. I suggest going back to = DHCP since there were some issues with static IP on YDL. As long as your = system is set up to do DHCP of course. Chuck Coleman ---------------------------------------- Put an end to bad service BOYCOTT MACMall/MAC-CLUB/PCMall http://www.macintouch.com/macmall01.html ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C2BFF0.E39C9020 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Problem with ethernet on 15" LCD Imac

Thanks Chuck, I will try this but i'm = not shure=20 that it is going to work.

When i look at my hub it shows no = connection, this=20 is te hardware level so somthing must be wrong with the ydl ethernet = driver for=20 the LCD Imac.

As i know fur sure that the connection = is=20 ok.(worked 10-20 minutes prior to ydl install)

----- Original Message -----

From:=20 Chuck=20 Coleman

To: yellowdog-n= ewbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com=20

Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 = 5:34=20 PM

Subject: Re: Problem with = ethernet on 15"=20 LCD Imac

on 1/19/03 1:13 AM, Jean Pierre = Miani at jmiani@xs4all.nl = wrote:

I have chosen static IP = because=20 when i selected DHCP it would not pick it=20 up.

Thanks Chuck, I will t= ry this but i'm not shure that it is going to work.

When i look at my hub it shows no = connection, this is te hardware level so somthing must be wrong with the ydl= ethernet driver for the LCD Imac.

As i know fur sure that the connec= tion is ok.(worked 10-20 minutes prior to ydl install)

The gateway is required and without it you will not get a connection even t= hough everything will work on the Mac OS. The gateway just directs the conne= ction to another machine//router and without it there will be no connection.= This should generate an error message that you don’t have a gateway a= ddress but it doesn’t. Another reason that Linux is not all that user = friendly.

Chuck Coleman
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--B_3125835595_765350-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon Jan 20 10:42:41 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (christian paire) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 11:42:41 +0100 Subject: yellowdog-newbie digest, Vol 1 #328 - 4 msgs In-Reply-To: <20030119190105.5EC5E1FAC8@newhope.terraplex.com> Message-ID: <000201c2c070$a8cccf20$0000fea9@cpaire> ADSL connection set up with ethernet speed touch home, YDL 2.3 on 1/19/03 1:13 AM, Jean Pierre Miani at jmiani@xs4all.nl wrote: > I have chosen static IP because when i selected DHCP it would not pick it= up. You have to set the gateway. If you don=B9t put in the gateway address then neither DHCP or static IP will not work. I suggest going back to DHCP since there were some issues with static IP on YDL. As long as your system is set up to do DHCP of course. Hello, just got ydl installed. I didn't set up lan as I don't use one. PPOE is installed. I can't set up wizard internet. Don't know which Ethernet card choose, I have G3 powerbook Lombard. Can't connect via adsl and Ethernet modem. Can't find any how to for set up connection. I will buy the distro, swear it ;), when I know I can use it. Thanks. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon Jan 20 18:31:43 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 19:31:43 +0100 Subject: where are imac contrast and brightness settings??? Message-ID: <200301201831.TAA10496@www9.emo.freenet-rz.de> SSBoYXZlIFlETCAyLjMgaW5zdGFsbGVkIG9uIGFuIG9sZGVyIGJsdWUgaW1hYyAzMDBNaHouIElu IE1hY09TIHRoZXJlIHdoZXJlIHNldHRpbmdzIGZvciBicmlnaHRuZXNzIGFuZCBrb250cmFzdC4g V2hlcmUgY2FuIGkgZmluZCB0aGVzZSBpbiBZREw/Pz8KCgotLQpTaW5nbGVzIGF1ZmdlcGFzc3Qh ClNwaWVsZW5kIGluIEtvbnRha3Qga29tbWVuIHVuZCBuZXVlIEZyZXVuZGUgZmluZGVuIGluIGRl ciBmcmVlbmV0LmRlIENvbW11bml0eSEKSmV0enQgZHVyY2hzdGFydGVuIHVudGVyOiBodHRwOi8v d3d3LmZyZWVuZXQuZGUvdGlwcC9jb21tdW5pdHkv From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue Jan 21 03:10:38 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (David Merwin) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 19:10:38 -0800 Subject: Problem with ethernet on 15" LCD Imac In-Reply-To: <002701c2bf9b$0981e8e0$6a64a8c0@miani1> References: <002701c2bf9b$0981e8e0$6a64a8c0@miani1> Message-ID: <3E2CBA2E.6080902@asulos.com> You might want to try the command "pump" from the command line with dhcp. Will get you an IP address and you can move forward. Dave Merwin Jean Pierre Miani wrote: > I have a 15"LCD Imac with YDL 2.3 installed. > Evrything seems to go ok but when i want to connect to the internet > the ethernet interface won't connect. > > I have chosen static IP because when i selected DHCP it would not pick > it up. The problem is that ocourse it cen send a pin to itself but > does not see the rest of mij network. > > Tested the cables and evrything is ok. > Just 30 minutes before installing YDL 2.3 i was surfing with OS X. The > systems is using it's sungem driver, it detects the card imediatly > when installing YDL. > > What is wrong?? can anybody please help. > > THanks, > > JP -- David Merwin dave@asulos.com (541) 684-0776 From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue Jan 21 11:56:47 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Nigel Horne) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 11:56:47 +0000 Subject: sendmail-devel In-Reply-To: <000201c2c070$a8cccf20$0000fea9@cpaire> References: <000201c2c070$a8cccf20$0000fea9@cpaire> Message-ID: <200301211156.47058.njh@bandsman.co.uk> Where can I get the sendmail-devel RPM? -Nigel -- Nigel Horne. Arranger, Composer, Conductor, Typesetter. NJH Music, Barnsley, UK. ICQ#20252325 njh@bandsman.co.uk http://www.bandsman.co.uk From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue Jan 21 15:18:55 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Dan Wilson) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 09:18:55 -0600 Subject: Mounting hfs+ disks Message-ID: I just started using Yellow Dog Linux (and Linux in general) last night. I'd like to be able to mount my OS X partition, but it's hfs+. After doing a little searching, I found a patch for hfs+ support at sourceforge. Before going through all the trouble to patch a kernal, is there an existing kernal that already has the hfs+ patch included? And does the patch work? Thanks. Dan Wilson From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed Jan 22 02:36:18 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Greg Dougherty) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 18:36:18 -0800 Subject: From Text login to graphical In-Reply-To: <5FEFE503.76E71168.6A01E670@netscape.net> Message-ID: <20030121183625-r01010800-45cf9676-0910-0108@192.168.1.40> Ok, After much torture, i now have YDL 2.3 installed on my computer. I have two monitors, a ViewSonic GS815, and a ViewSonic G810. YDL doesn't know about the GS815 (which is too bad, because it's my "main" monitor), but, through the magic of fiddling with cables and the Monitors Control Panel, I know have YDL coming up in text mode on my G810 (which was in the list of monitors when I set it up). So, I told YDL to use the monitor in 1152 x 8?2 x 75Hz, that being the closest I could find to my normal setting of 1152 x 870 x 75 Hz. I also told it to do the text login (I've had a hell of a time when installing it to default to graphics). So, now that I have it logging me in fine, how do I get kde or gnome up? I tried logging in as root and then typing "xconfigure", that didn't work. What does work? TIA, Greg From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed Jan 22 03:14:46 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (lowell) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 21:14:46 -0600 Subject: From Text login to graphical References: <20030121183625-r01010800-45cf9676-0910-0108@192.168.1.40> Message-ID: <3E2E0CA6.6080509@kc.rr.com> The command you want is "Xconfigurator" (without the quotes) to write your XF86Config file, if that's what you wanted to do. To start the X windows system, type "startx" and X will come up running your default window manager (prolly KDE). Greg Dougherty wrote: >Ok, > >After much torture, i now have YDL 2.3 installed on my computer. I have two >monitors, a ViewSonic GS815, and a ViewSonic G810. YDL doesn't know about the >GS815 (which is too bad, because it's my "main" monitor), but, through the magic >of fiddling with cables and the Monitors Control Panel, I know have YDL coming >up in text mode on my G810 (which was in the list of monitors when I set it up). > >So, I told YDL to use the monitor in 1152 x 8?2 x 75Hz, that being the closest I >could find to my normal setting of 1152 x 870 x 75 Hz. I also told it to do the >text login (I've had a hell of a time when installing it to default to >graphics). > >So, now that I have it logging me in fine, how do I get kde or gnome up? I >tried logging in as root and then typing "xconfigure", that didn't work. What >does work? > >TIA, > >Greg >_______________________________________________ >yellowdog-newbie mailing list >yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > > > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed Jan 22 04:57:10 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Greg Dougherty) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 20:57:10 -0800 Subject: From Text login to graphical In-Reply-To: <3E2E0CA6.6080509@kc.rr.com> Message-ID: <20030121205714-r01010800-8badef33-0910-0108@192.168.1.40> Thanks Lowell, that gets me closer to where I want to go. The current problem is that I run it, I select my monitor, I give it a resolution (1152 x 864 x 75Hz), 16 bits of color, and no acceleration, and it claims everything went fine. However, when I type "startx" it fails, telling me there is no screen. I checked my XF86Config file, and it has no screen. Now what do I do? TIA, Greg On 1/21/03, lowell writes: > The command you want is "Xconfigurator" (without the quotes) to > write your XF86Config file, if that's what you wanted to do. To > start the X windows system, type "startx" and X will come up running > your default window manager (prolly KDE). > > Greg Dougherty wrote: > >>Ok, >> >>After much torture, i now have YDL 2.3 installed on my computer. I >>have two monitors, a ViewSonic GS815, and a ViewSonic G810. YDL >>doesn't know about the GS815 (which is too bad, because it's my >>"main" monitor), but, through the magic of fiddling with cables and >>the Monitors Control Panel, I know have YDL coming up in text mode >>on my G810 (which was in the list of monitors when I set it up). >> >>So, I told YDL to use the monitor in 1152 x 8?2 x 75Hz, that being >>the closest I could find to my normal setting of 1152 x 870 x 75 Hz. >> I also told it to do the text login (I've had a hell of a time when >>installing it to default to graphics). >> >>So, now that I have it logging me in fine, how do I get kde or gnome >>up? I tried logging in as root and then typing "xconfigure", that >>didn't work. What does work? >> >>TIA, >> >>Greg _______________________________________________ >>yellowdog-newbie mailing list >>yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >>http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ yellowdog-newbie > mailing list yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie Greg From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed Jan 22 17:23:23 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (David Merwin) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 09:23:23 -0800 Subject: From Text login to graphical References: <20030121205714-r01010800-8badef33-0910-0108@192.168.1.40> Message-ID: <3E2ED38B.2090309@asulos.com> You might be looking in the wrong place. did you try XF86Config-4? Those are your used settings. David Merwin Greg Dougherty wrote: >Thanks Lowell, that gets me closer to where I want to go. > >The current problem is that I run it, I select my monitor, I give it a >resolution (1152 x 864 x 75Hz), 16 bits of color, and no acceleration, and it >claims everything went fine. > >However, when I type "startx" it fails, telling me there is no screen. I >checked my XF86Config file, and it has no screen. > >Now what do I do? > >TIA, > >Greg > >On 1/21/03, lowell writes: > > > >>The command you want is "Xconfigurator" (without the quotes) to >>write your XF86Config file, if that's what you wanted to do. To >>start the X windows system, type "startx" and X will come up running >>your default window manager (prolly KDE). >> >>Greg Dougherty wrote: >> >> >> >>>Ok, >>> >>>After much torture, i now have YDL 2.3 installed on my computer. I >>>have two monitors, a ViewSonic GS815, and a ViewSonic G810. YDL >>>doesn't know about the GS815 (which is too bad, because it's my >>>"main" monitor), but, through the magic of fiddling with cables and >>>the Monitors Control Panel, I know have YDL coming up in text mode >>>on my G810 (which was in the list of monitors when I set it up). >>> >>>So, I told YDL to use the monitor in 1152 x 8?2 x 75Hz, that being >>>the closest I could find to my normal setting of 1152 x 870 x 75 Hz. >>>I also told it to do the text login (I've had a hell of a time when >>>installing it to default to graphics). >>> >>>So, now that I have it logging me in fine, how do I get kde or gnome >>>up? I tried logging in as root and then typing "xconfigure", that >>>didn't work. What does work? >>> >>>TIA, >>> >>>Greg _______________________________________________ >>>yellowdog-newbie mailing list >>>yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >>>http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ yellowdog-newbie >>mailing list yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >>http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie >> >> > >Greg >_______________________________________________ >yellowdog-newbie mailing list >yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > > > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed Jan 22 21:27:07 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Bill Hughes) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 16:27:07 -0500 Subject: ... apt ... from behind firewall??? Message-ID: <7164B4D5.09F239D2.6A01E670@netscape.net> Anyone know how to configure "apt" to connect from a firewall/proxy??? I've set the "web-browsing" Proxy (also ftp) ports and can surf etc..., will apt just work the same??? Also, is there a new XFree86 release/rpm from YDL??? (I'm STILL having "X" problems with my PCI Radeon and Mitsubishi Diamond Pro) TIA Bill -- ___________________________________________________________ I made conscience decision in a "semi-conscious" state -Yours truly __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu Jan 23 11:51:05 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Chris Hafey) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 06:51:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: Linux on iLamp - modem sound iMac G4 Flat Panel 15 -- a Report Message-ID: <200301231151.h0NBp5D22993@sea.ntplx.net> Linux on iLamp - modem sound iMac G4 Flat Panel 15 -- a Report Finally got Marc Boucher's hcfusbmodem program working, which brought the iLamp internal modem on-line (it's a Conexant HCF Cadmus2 56K Faxmodem USB). I'm composing this in a shell account at an ISP 30 miles from here .. the modem *really* works. Under Linux. This is an important matter; I had to boot Mac OS X to use the modem previously. No more! quality: ppp0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol inet addr:***.***.78.55 P-t-P:***.***.78.1 Mask:255.255.255.255 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1524 Metric:1 RX packets:49377 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:51506 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:3 RX bytes:4711869 (4.4 MiB) TX bytes:3286503 (3.1 MiB) (just light interactive work; no d/l). (seems excellent to me). Reference Linux distrib. for my iLamp report is Debian 3.0; I am corresponding with a YDL 2.3 user who reports similar results to mine, in most regards. Kernel report (after a modprobe): Manufacturer: HCF USB V.90 Data/Fax Modem Product: Apple internal modem SerialNumber: ******** usb.c: usbhcf driver claimed interface ******** osusb.c: usbhcf is detected (asterisk mine to obscure numbers) That was a tough one; still not sure just what is going on, but the modem works (as a modem, anyway). Learned the name 'Conexant' and the term 'HCF' from prowling around in Mac OS X -- saw something in a Darwin log, also. I didn't know for sure it was supposed to work (at all) on the iLamp. It does; just be sure to ATX3 if there is no dialtone detect. minicom, chat and ppp all work fine. Concurrent sound was broken, though -- 2.4.20-ben1 has quite a bit more in the dmasound subdirectory for the tas3001c.c -- it's the Tumbler -- ended up removing the dmasound contents entirely and replacing it with that from 2.4.19-4a. Now I have both modem and sound working at the same time (whereas the HCF USB modem driver from http://www.mbsi.ca/cnxtlindrv wasn't functional under 2.4.19-4a for reasons as-yet undetermined; which is what prompted me to go with the branded benh kernel from linuxppc.org). I realized the kernel config wasn't fine-grained enough to configure 'dmasound' more accurately, so I figured replacing the entire dmasound source with one I already had working was a good idea -- it does work. No idea if that's sound (cough) engineering practice or not. Also working: Mac-On-Linux ('startx -- -depth 24' helps) as well as X11 (use the framebuffer) and a Kensington TurboBall (acts like a three button mouse). Console video comes up as 128x48 chars. Ethernet worked fine first kernel build (or earlier from distrib. kernels; can't recall now). On my TODO list: find ways to 1. get X11/FBDev to behave when idle (makes the LCD roll and flash badly -- I switch to console video every time before walking away from the machine); 2. adjust backlight intensity level control (work-around is to set it in Mac OS X and be sure to login, open 'Macintosh HD' or do something else to 'lock' the intensity change to nvram or where-ever it is stored; then it will carry over to the Linux side); 3. sleep / APM related things (energy savers) and hard-disk spindown. I don't have a printer to test with. Have read from the CDROM drive, and Mac-On-Linux appears to consult it as well (haven't tested that). Keymaps were problematic; I developed a work-around (ssh to the machine and activate other keymaps, since ssh won't be affected by the same problem -- it's running on another keyboard/display). This problem may be a Debianism only. It's not the kernel -- same source built two different ways needs different keymaps. Working (collecting) documentation and correspondence, but I know I'll get side-tracked. I wanted to say *something* publicly on this, since iLamp remarks (save the 'magazine' talk which doesn't help us here) are far and few between wrt Linux on the iLamp. Hence this disorganized message. Christopher W Hafey Torrington CT USA From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu Jan 23 19:19:24 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Ray Lacgalvs) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 05:19:24 +1000 Subject: dual boot won`t work now Message-ID: > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3126230365_129585_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit hello all, Installed YDL from cd on my iBook & all went well until I had to reload OS9 over the existing install. Can now only boot into YDL using the "network disk" on the startup disk control panel which takes an awfully long time. I've only just installed YDL & never got a chance to shutdown & restart before reinstalling OS9 again, so don't know if it is normal NOT to boot from the normal startup disk. I suspect the reinstall may have changed something & would like to know if: 1) YDL should boot from the startup disk or the network disk? 2) If the former, do I have to reinstall YDL to get dual boot back? Any advice much appreciated. regards,ray. --MS_Mac_OE_3126230365_129585_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable dual boot won`t work now hello all,
Installed YDL from cd on my iBook & all went well until I had to reload= OS9 over the existing install.
Can now only boot into YDL using the "network disk" on the startu= p disk control panel which takes an awfully long time.
I've only just installed YDL & never got a chance to shutdown & res= tart before reinstalling OS9 again, so don't know if it is normal NOT to boo= t from the normal startup disk.
I suspect the reinstall may have changed something & would like to know= if:
1) YDL should boot from the startup disk or the network disk?
2) If the former, do I have to reinstall YDL to get dual boot back?

Any advice much appreciated.
regards,ray.

--MS_Mac_OE_3126230365_129585_MIME_Part-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu Jan 23 19:23:06 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Christopher Jett) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 13:23:06 -0600 Subject: PowerMac 7500/G3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I am brand new to the list and still downloading my installation CD image as I write this. I am going to try to install YDL on a PowerMac 7500 with a Sonnet 500mhz G3 upgrade. Has anyone had success doing this? Will YDL work OK with ATA drives attached to the Sonnet Tempo ATA/66 card? My intention is to use this spare machine as a DNS server. -- Christopher Jett | Jett Fuel Productions chris@jettfuel.net | http://www.jettfuel.net (830) 798-8723 | (888) 403-JETT ----------------------------------------------- Web Design, Web Hosting, and Custom Solutions ... powered by Jett Fuel ----------------------------------------------- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu Jan 23 20:08:39 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Jean Pierre Miani) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 21:08:39 +0100 Subject: Problem with ethernet on 15" LCD Imac References: Message-ID: <001f01c2c31b$38b64d80$6f64a8c0@miani1> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C2C323.9A169C80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Problem with ethernet on 15" LCD ImacDear all, Finnaly got YDL running on iLamp, the problem was infrastructural, i had = an hub connceted to my swict and this was not acting properly to the = autonogotiation of the iLamp, i moved the ilamp downstairs and connceted = it directly to my swict and voila the problem was solved. Thanks for all te support. BtW, thoes anyone no how to get nfs running on YDL? I want to connect my Dreambox (sattelite receiver running linux) to my = Ilamp. JP ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Chuck Coleman=20 To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com=20 Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 5:34 PM Subject: Re: Problem with ethernet on 15" LCD Imac on 1/19/03 1:13 AM, Jean Pierre Miani at jmiani@xs4all.nl wrote: I have chosen static IP because when i selected DHCP it would not = pick it up. You have to set the gateway. If you don't put in the gateway address = then neither DHCP or static IP will not work. I suggest going back to = DHCP since there were some issues with static IP on YDL. As long as your = system is set up to do DHCP of course. Chuck Coleman ---------------------------------------- Put an end to bad service BOYCOTT MACMall/MAC-CLUB/PCMall http://www.macintouch.com/macmall01.html ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C2C323.9A169C80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Problem with ethernet on 15" LCD Imac

Dear all,

Finnaly got YDL running on iLamp, the = problem was=20 infrastructural, i had an hub connceted to my swict and this was not = acting=20 properly to the autonogotiation of the iLamp, i moved the ilamp = downstairs and=20 connceted it directly to my swict and voila the problem was = solved.

Thanks for all te support.

BtW, thoes anyone no how to get nfs = running on=20 YDL?

I want to connect my Dreambox = (sattelite receiver=20 running linux) to my Ilamp.

----- Original Message -----

From:=20 Chuck=20 Coleman

To: yellowdog-n= ewbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com=20

Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 = 5:34=20 PM

Subject: Re: Problem with = ethernet on 15"=20 LCD Imac

on 1/19/03 1:13 AM, Jean Pierre = Miani at jmiani@xs4all.nl = wrote:

I have chosen static IP = because=20 when i selected DHCP it would not pick it=20 up.

You have to = set the=20 gateway. If you don=92t put in the gateway address then neither DHCP = or static=20 IP will not work. I suggest going back to DHCP since there were some = issues=20 with static IP on YDL. As long as your system is set up to do DHCP of=20 course.

Chuck=20 Coleman
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Put an end to = bad=20 service
BOYCOTT=20 = MACMall/MAC-CLUB/PCMall
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------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C2C323.9A169C80-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu Jan 23 22:52:15 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (DongSoo Choi) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 17:52:15 -0500 Subject: Unmet Message-ID: I am trying to install mgetty and getting an error You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these: Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: -f option didn't work. How do I fix this? Thanks dongsoo From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu Jan 23 23:05:10 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Chris Hafey) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 18:05:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: dual boot won`t work now Message-ID: <200301232305.h0NN5Ak23730@sea.ntplx.net> Hi Ray. Browse down -- I've set off in carets and vees (you'll see) what I think you need do next. The rest of this long message is context! >Installed YDL from cd on my iBook & all went well until I had to reload OS9 >over the existing install. OS9 probably reset the nvram to point to itself as your Startup Disk. > Can now only boot into YDL using the "network disk" on the startup disk > control panel which takes an awfully long time. The partition that has yaboot is hidden from Mac OS, but OpenFirmware can see it. yaboot is the boot-loader, probably, on any G3 or G4 machine. OldWorld machines use BootX or similar (which is controlled from within MacOS); I think it operates as system extension. > I've only just installed YDL & never got a chance to shutdown & restart > before reinstalling OS9 again, so don't know if it is normal NOT to boot > from the normal startup disk. Linux usually is booted from the same hard disk, even if dual-booted. That's preferable to having to insert a CDROM, by a long-shot. If it's preferable, and possible, Linux generally tries to make it happen that way. In this case it is almost surely preferable and possible, so look for it! > I suspect the reinstall may have changed something & would like to know if: > 1) YDL should boot from the startup disk or the network disk? >From the hard disk; probably a low partition number. Usually /dev/hda2; the partition's type is 'Apple_Bootstrap' and its name, 'bootstrap' (as seen from within 'fdisk' -- be very careful with fdisk; generally, just use 'p' to print and 'q' to quit, unless you really want to partition that disk! 'fdisk /dev/hda' generally invokes it cleanly - then tap 'p' once and then 'q' once. Read the table *after* you type 'q'.) > 2) If the former, do I have to reinstall YDL to get dual boot back? vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv Probably you just want to type 'mkofboot' as root, once Linux is booted. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Follow any prompts; read every screen carefully, and maybe pratice a few times before committing changes to disk. It probably has safeguards to warn you (if you pay attention) of any gotchas, and probably will let you back out if you're in over your head (in a panic, control C interrupts most programs but they do not exit as cleanly as they may've if you exited normally). I repeat myself a bit, below .. typed it before the comments interlaced with yours, above. On new machines, pressing and holding a key -- O maybe (oh, not zero) will pop up a menu of destinations -- press and hold it at the chime when the machine boots, and keep it held down until something interesting starts to happen (if anything). If you know the partition number and can access Open Firmware, this often works: boot hd:,\yaboot example: my hard disk partition that holds the boot files is /dev/hda5 in Linux. So to boot the yaboot program, I type: boot hd:5,\yaboot The boot files are on an HFS (not HFS+) partition, visible in Mac OS X. They are all in the root directory of that partition. 'yaboot.conf' is there, and it points to a linux kernel (vmlinux) that is also in that same root directory. To get an open firmware prompt, Command+Option+O+F (press and hold all four, simultaneously, during the chime and hold them down until the OpenFirmware screen pops up). Proceed very carefully if you've never seen this screen before; in particular, don't make any typographical errors (it's rare but if you try, you can (almost?) permanently hose a Mac from within OpenFirmware). Generally OpenFirware (it's a Forth implementation) will give you two prompts; one to shut the mac down ('shut-down' is usual here) and the other is to keep booting the default OS (which you don't want; does the same thing as if you hadn't touched the keyboard during power-on and subsequent booting). So if you make any typos, you want to use 'shut-down' immediately .. don't take chances, I say. Assuming you're not making typos, this is where I type: boot hd:5,\yaboot . There's only one space there; between the 't' in 'boot' and the 'h' in 'hd'. '5' is the number of the partition (it is the same as the /dev/hda number; in this case, '5' (above) names /dev/hda5 in Linux. Only this isn't a Linux-type (ext2 etc.) filesystem on this partition; it's an HFS (not HFS+) Mac OS partition. Basically, there's a good chance you already have yaboot installed and ready to be called to service, on a partition (one visible in Mac OS or maybe not). OpenFirmware is one way to access the yaboot binary (which is a boot-loader). Another is to set some parameters into the battery- backed-up RAM in the machine (the nvram) that do much what I told you to type by hand in OpenFirmware -- I'm pretty sure that's a viable option. Linux definitely has some sort of utility to write directly to the nvram; one of the things it does is causes you to default to a Linux boot instead of a Mac OS boot. Another thing it can do is put you into a menu of choices (this time controlled by yaboot, I think) so that when you boot, you get to choose which OS to start (and if you were away from the keyboard, it picks a default OS and boots that after some time has passed with no response at the keyboard). Come to think of it there's a bunch of handy programs in Linux to manage all this -- you just need to boot off your CDROM or whatever it was you were doing to boot, and activate them. Well 'just' is perhaps a bit oversimplified here -- I'm theorizing since I don't do things this way myself. I took great pains to make sure the system does not present anyone but me with the option to boot Linux .. if you switch my machine on (from power-off) Mac OS X comes up as usual. The default on most Linuxes though is to give you some sort of a boot menu, and as I say, on newer Macs, you don't have to do much since pressing and holding down one key (I think it's the 'O') gives a decent boot menu. In Linux you can learn which partition your yaboot lives on. Read the manual pages for yaboot and mkofboot. Typing 'mkofboot' as root sometimes works. On my system, it does. If for some reason any of this makes your system too difficult to boot into Mac OS, you can zap the nvram with Command+Option+P+R (I think that's the right sequence) during the boot chime. You can press and hold it through three chimes (reboots) before letting go the keyboard (once may be plenty, though). That zaps then nvram (restores it to reasonable default values) and generally the system will boot Mac OS from there. It does zap the Startup Disk choice you usually make in Mac OS, so you may get a question-mark folder icon or somesuch first time you boot, and during each boot until you choose a Startup Disk (you zapped nvram, which stores this variable.) Christopher W Hafey Torrington CT USA From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu Jan 23 23:59:46 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Arthur) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 18:59:46 -0500 Subject: monitor flicker Message-ID: Hello everyone ok just installed 2.3ydl on a 7300 ppc, 177 ram, 1710 applevision monitor. used the install video to guide me. using a dual boot option via bootx, sys 9.1 is on the other partion at startup I select "vmlinux-2.2" ( picking 2.3 vmlinux seems to always freeze just after the hardware check) I have tried setting options to pick "use specified ram disk ramdisk-x11.image.gz as well as not picking it. what happens is, it goes through the whole hardware check, tells me that "dev/sda9 was not cleanly mounted" continues with a few more checks. then it says welcome to YDL .... the monitor then turns off and starts up again with the GUI interface, however at this point it just flickers. I have gotten as far as seeing a desk top ( not easy to log in when the dialogue box keeps moving) but that's it. Please any help will be very much appreciated!!! NOTE: Please let me know how to find out the root partion number as I did not take note during install ( ok it's my very first time) as I have not tried to plug that into the bootx dialog following the /dev/ field. during install of YDL I did pick my monitor from the list and kept the default res setting. And bootx is v.1.2.3 the YDL partion is 2 gig's. Lastly when I try to select the option to use vmlinux 2.2 and direct it to the ram disk image it always wants to reinstall the whole thing?!?! There seems to be a slight discrepency between the video install guide for YDL 2.3 and the printed file off the YDL support site. Thank you again Arthur From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu Jan 23 00:49:54 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (tobe) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 18:49:54 -0600 Subject: can someone please tell me how to burn a bootable cd of YDL iso using toast titanium. Someone who has done it on an iMac please Message-ID: <3E2F3C32.8080507@netscape.net> -- I have wasted so much time downloading and making beautiful coasters for my friends that i am about to freak out and give up. I would love to learn and work in the Linux environment. please help me. You will score major ckp's (computer karma points) for correct info. Thanks again tobe (the frustrated) Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri Jan 24 03:06:28 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Jerry Grubbs) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 22:06:28 -0500 Subject: PowerMac 7500/G3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --Apple-Mail-2-645879020 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Christopher, I'll send you a copy of a similar question i asked recently of YDL. __________________________________________________________ I have followed all printed and on screen instructions for installing and using Bootx. I installed and saved Bootx on my scsi drive named Macintosh HD which I formated OS standard and installed OS 9.2.2 after making 2 partitions. First 6 gig unassigned/remainder was standard for OS 9.2.2. I have an IDE drive installed but not powered at the moment since OS 10.2 lives there and I don't want it messed up. After macOS 9.2.2 loads I clicked the Bootx option (force SCSI on) . I have choosen ramdisk-x11 from the macintosh HD System folder and clicked ok. When I click OK nothing happens except that I am returned to the main choose your OS window.After waiting about 30 minutes for something to happen I click the Linux button because all the commands at the top of the screen are no longer available. The computer reboots, I click Linux when it appears on the OS choice screen, the #1 YDL disk has been in the cd drive forever and I get (OOPS kernal access of bad area, sig: 11), lots of other stuff on the screen and (kernal panic: attempted to kill init!) Rebooting in 180 seconds. ==================================================== Mon Jan 20, 2003 ... 05:58:16 pm It might be your upgrade card unfortunately. As of YDL 2.3 we can no longer officially support the CPU upgrade. If you remove the upgrade card, does the install work? ==================================================== The above response was sent to me on Jan 20, 2003 My YDL profile shows a G3 Beige 266Mhz upgraded to a G4 500Mhz processor. apparently YDL 2.3 does NOT run with upgraded CPU's. Yeah, bummer!!! I am not going back to 266 Mhz. Jerry On Thursday, January 23, 2003, at 02:23 PM, Christopher Jett wrote: > I am brand new to the list and still downloading my installation CD > image as > I write this. I am going to try to install YDL on a PowerMac 7500 > with a > Sonnet 500mhz G3 upgrade. Has anyone had success doing this? Will > YDL work > OK with ATA drives attached to the Sonnet Tempo ATA/66 card? My > intention > is to use this spare machine as a DNS server. > -- > Christopher Jett | Jett Fuel Productions > chris@jettfuel.net | http://www.jettfuel.net > (830) 798-8723 | (888) 403-JETT > ----------------------------------------------- > Web Design, Web Hosting, and Custom Solutions > ... powered by Jett Fuel > ----------------------------------------------- > > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > --Apple-Mail-2-645879020 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Christopher, I'll send you a copy of a similar question i asked recently of YDL. __________________________________________________________ Lucida GrandeI have followed all printed and on screen instructions for installing and using Bootx. I installed and saved Bootx on my scsi drive named Macintosh HD which I formated OS standard and installed OS 9.2.2 after making 2 partitions. First 6 gig unassigned/remainder was standard for OS 9.2.2. I have an IDE drive installed but not powered at the moment since OS 10.2 lives there and I don't want it messed up. After macOS 9.2.2 loads I clicked the Bootx option (force SCSI on) . I have choosen ramdisk-x11 from the macintosh HD System folder and clicked ok. When I click OK nothing happens except that I am returned to the main choose your OS window.After waiting about 30 minutes for something to happen I click the Linux button because all the commands at the top of the screen are no longer available. The computer reboots, I click Linux when it appears on the OS choice screen, the #1 YDL disk has been in the cd drive forever and I get (OOPS kernal access of bad area, sig: 11), lots of other stuff on the screen and (kernal panic: attempted to kill init!) Rebooting in 180 seconds. ==================================================== Mon Jan 20, 2003 ... 05:58:16 pm It might be your upgrade card unfortunately. As of YDL 2.3 we can no longer officially support the CPU upgrade. If you remove the upgrade card, does the install work? ==================================================== The above response was sent to me on Jan 20, 2003 My YDL profile shows a G3 Beige 266Mhz upgraded to a G4 500Mhz processor. apparently YDL 2.3 does NOT run with upgraded CPU's. Yeah, bummer!!! I am not going back to 266 Mhz. Jerry On Thursday, January 23, 2003, at 02:23 PM, Christopher Jett wrote: I am brand new to the list and still downloading my installation CD image as I write this. I am going to try to install YDL on a PowerMac 7500 with a Sonnet 500mhz G3 upgrade. Has anyone had success doing this? Will YDL work OK with ATA drives attached to the Sonnet Tempo ATA/66 card? My intention is to use this spare machine as a DNS server. -- Christopher Jett | Jett Fuel Productions chris@jettfuel.net | http://www.jettfuel.net (830) 798-8723 | (888) 403-JETT ----------------------------------------------- Web Design, Web Hosting, and Custom Solutions ... powered by Jett Fuel ----------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ yellowdog-newbie mailing list yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie --Apple-Mail-2-645879020-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri Jan 24 03:10:40 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Christopher Jett) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 21:10:40 -0600 Subject: PowerMac 7500/G3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Can I then install YDL 2.2 for compatibility? I don't have an old processor card for this, so removing the upgrade is really not an option. I guess I will try installing OS X using XPostFacto. I really just need a DNS server. on 1/23/03 9:06 PM, Jerry Grubbs at jgrubbs5@insightbb.com wrote: > Christopher, > I'll send you a copy of a similar question i asked recently of YDL. > __________________________________________________________ > > > I have followed all printed and on screen instructions for installing > and using Bootx. I installed and saved Bootx on my scsi drive named > Macintosh HD which I formated OS standard and installed OS 9.2.2 after > making 2 partitions. First 6 gig unassigned/remainder was standard for > OS 9.2.2. I have an IDE drive installed but not powered at the moment > since OS 10.2 lives there and I don't want it messed up. > After macOS 9.2.2 loads I clicked the Bootx option (force SCSI on) . I > have choosen ramdisk-x11 from the macintosh HD System folder and > clicked ok. When I click OK nothing happens except that I am returned > to the main choose your OS window.After waiting about 30 minutes for > something to happen I click the Linux button because all the commands > at the top of the screen are no longer available. The computer reboots, > I click Linux when it appears on the OS choice screen, the #1 YDL disk > has been in the cd drive forever and I get (OOPS kernal access of bad > area, sig: 11), lots of other stuff on the screen and (kernal panic: > attempted to kill init!) Rebooting in 180 seconds. > ==================================================== > Mon Jan 20, 2003 ... 05:58:16 pm > > It might be your upgrade card unfortunately. As of YDL 2.3 we can no > longer officially support the CPU upgrade. If you remove the upgrade > card, does the install work? > ==================================================== > The above response was sent to me on Jan 20, 2003 > > My YDL profile shows a G3 Beige 266Mhz upgraded to a G4 500Mhz > processor. apparently YDL 2.3 does NOT run with upgraded CPU's. Yeah, > bummer!!! I am not going back to 266 Mhz. > > > Jerry > > On Thursday, January 23, 2003, at 02:23 PM, Christopher Jett wrote: > >> I am brand new to the list and still downloading my installation CD >> image as >> I write this. I am going to try to install YDL on a PowerMac 7500 >> with a >> Sonnet 500mhz G3 upgrade. Has anyone had success doing this? Will >> YDL work >> OK with ATA drives attached to the Sonnet Tempo ATA/66 card? My >> intention >> is to use this spare machine as a DNS server. >> -- >> Christopher Jett | Jett Fuel Productions >> chris@jettfuel.net | http://www.jettfuel.net >> (830) 798-8723 | (888) 403-JETT >> ----------------------------------------------- >> Web Design, Web Hosting, and Custom Solutions >> ... powered by Jett Fuel >> ----------------------------------------------- >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> yellowdog-newbie mailing list >> yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >> http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie >> > -- Christopher Jett | Jett Fuel Productions chris@jettfuel.net | http://www.jettfuel.net (830) 798-8723 | (888) 403-JETT ----------------------------------------------- Web Design, Web Hosting, and Custom Solutions ... powered by Jett Fuel ----------------------------------------------- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri Jan 24 03:19:13 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Jerry Grubbs) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 22:19:13 -0500 Subject: PowerMac 7500/G3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <9D0944E4-2F4A-11D7-AB10-00039380596A@insightbb.com> Really not sure you can use YDL 2.2. I have seen it suggested by other people in the newbie group but I have no experience there. I have looked at the YDL web site and I don't see YDL 2.2 available. Jerry On Thursday, January 23, 2003, at 10:10 PM, Christopher Jett wrote: > Can I then install YDL 2.2 for compatibility? I don't have an old > processor > card for this, so removing the upgrade is really not an option. > > I guess I will try installing OS X using XPostFacto. I really just > need a > DNS server. > > on 1/23/03 9:06 PM, Jerry Grubbs at jgrubbs5@insightbb.com wrote: > >> Christopher, >> I'll send you a copy of a similar question i asked recently of YDL. >> __________________________________________________________ >> >> >> I have followed all printed and on screen instructions for installing >> and using Bootx. I installed and saved Bootx on my scsi drive named >> Macintosh HD which I formated OS standard and installed OS 9.2.2 after >> making 2 partitions. First 6 gig unassigned/remainder was standard for >> OS 9.2.2. I have an IDE drive installed but not powered at the moment >> since OS 10.2 lives there and I don't want it messed up. >> After macOS 9.2.2 loads I clicked the Bootx option (force SCSI on) . I >> have choosen ramdisk-x11 from the macintosh HD System folder and >> clicked ok. When I click OK nothing happens except that I am returned >> to the main choose your OS window.After waiting about 30 minutes for >> something to happen I click the Linux button because all the commands >> at the top of the screen are no longer available. The computer >> reboots, >> I click Linux when it appears on the OS choice screen, the #1 YDL disk >> has been in the cd drive forever and I get (OOPS kernal access of bad >> area, sig: 11), lots of other stuff on the screen and (kernal panic: >> attempted to kill init!) Rebooting in 180 seconds. >> ==================================================== >> Mon Jan 20, 2003 ... 05:58:16 pm >> >> It might be your upgrade card unfortunately. As of YDL 2.3 we can no >> longer officially support the CPU upgrade. If you remove the upgrade >> card, does the install work? >> ==================================================== >> The above response was sent to me on Jan 20, 2003 >> >> My YDL profile shows a G3 Beige 266Mhz upgraded to a G4 500Mhz >> processor. apparently YDL 2.3 does NOT run with upgraded CPU's. Yeah, >> bummer!!! I am not going back to 266 Mhz. >> >> >> Jerry >> >> On Thursday, January 23, 2003, at 02:23 PM, Christopher Jett wrote: >> >>> I am brand new to the list and still downloading my installation CD >>> image as >>> I write this. I am going to try to install YDL on a PowerMac 7500 >>> with a >>> Sonnet 500mhz G3 upgrade. Has anyone had success doing this? Will >>> YDL work >>> OK with ATA drives attached to the Sonnet Tempo ATA/66 card? My >>> intention >>> is to use this spare machine as a DNS server. >>> -- >>> Christopher Jett | Jett Fuel Productions >>> chris@jettfuel.net | http://www.jettfuel.net >>> (830) 798-8723 | (888) 403-JETT >>> ----------------------------------------------- >>> Web Design, Web Hosting, and Custom Solutions >>> ... powered by Jett Fuel >>> ----------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> yellowdog-newbie mailing list >>> yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >>> http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie >>> >> > > -- > Christopher Jett | Jett Fuel Productions > chris@jettfuel.net | http://www.jettfuel.net > (830) 798-8723 | (888) 403-JETT > ----------------------------------------------- > Web Design, Web Hosting, and Custom Solutions > ... powered by Jett Fuel > ----------------------------------------------- > > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri Jan 24 03:52:37 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Brian Alston) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 22:52:37 -0500 Subject: Wallstreet Install . . . HELP! Message-ID: <478C4962-2F4F-11D7-8E10-000A277A97D6@nosaltnetwork.com> Hello All Has anybody been able to get YDL to properly install on a PowerBook Wallstreet? I have a PowerBook Wallstreet 233MHz with a 12.1" display. I have YDL v2.3 that I am trying to install. I set the BootX kernel arguments field to "video=atyfb:vmode:10" and I get the text mode looking great. It is when I try to start up a GUI that's when everything goes away. I can see my screen but just barely. It is as if the contrast is completely gone and the display looks totally washed out. I got YDL to install all the way. Everything works great, including the GUI, but I just can't see anything. When I boot back into OS 9 my display looks great. It is just when I try to go into a Linux GUI that I have problems. I think I may just need some contrast control but my contrast button doesn't do anything in Linux. I have tried other options (like the force video mode) but it just won't work. If anybody can offer any suggestions, I would very much appreciate the help. Thanks, have a good one From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri Jan 24 17:04:20 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Joseph Syjuco) Date: 24 Jan 2003 17:04:20 +0000 Subject: dual boot won`t work now In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1043427860.14966.2.camel@Falcon> what i did i installed os first then ydl On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 19:19, Ray Lacgalvs wrote: > hello all, > Installed YDL from cd on my iBook & all went well until I had to reload OS9 > over the existing install. > Can now only boot into YDL using the "network disk" on the startup disk > control panel which takes an awfully long time. > I've only just installed YDL & never got a chance to shutdown & restart > before reinstalling OS9 again, so don't know if it is normal NOT to boot > from the normal startup disk. > I suspect the reinstall may have changed something & would like to know if: > 1) YDL should boot from the startup disk or the network disk? > 2) If the former, do I have to reinstall YDL to get dual boot back? > > Any advice much appreciated. > regards,ray. > > > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri Jan 24 15:43:21 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Gregory Allen-Anderson) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 10:43:21 -0500 (EST) Subject: Is it worth it? Message-ID: <20030124154321.CBD7939E4@xmxpita.myway.com> I don't even qualify as a newbie, still a wannabe! I am considering installing linux on my IMac 500 with 512 ram slot loading (anything else important for you to know?) I have been playing with KDE and Gnome and related apps under Darwin, and most of them work fairly well, but they are awfully slow. Even browsing the web seems very slow compared to OSX (and thats no speed demon on a G3). I assume this is partly because I am running the unix gui on top of OSX. I am not a programmer, don't want to be, but do like playing around with things now and then. So two questions before I reformat my drive. Is this sluggishness not present when running under linux? Is it stable enough to work out of the box? I want to twiddle with it because I want to not because I have to, and frequently I have to do work on the computer, and at those times need it to work period no fussing. Thanks! _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Introducing My Way - http://www.myway.com From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri Jan 24 17:52:06 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Jason DeVita) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 12:52:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: Is it worth it? In-Reply-To: <20030124154321.CBD7939E4@xmxpita.myway.com> Message-ID: I have both ydl and xdarwin running on my ibook. KDE under darwin appears to be much slower. I usually run in full screen mode, and it takes about twice as long for kde to start up on darwin, versus on ydl. I also have to turn off all the graphics bells-and-whistles so that the screen reacts reasonably quickly. So, if my experience is typical, then you should find that kde runs much faster on the ydl side. -Jason On Fri, 24 Jan 2003, Gregory Allen-Anderson wrote: > > I don't even qualify as a newbie, still a wannabe! I am considering > installing linux on my IMac 500 with 512 ram slot loading (anything else > important for you to know?) > > I have been playing with KDE and Gnome and related apps under Darwin, > and most of them work fairly well, but they are awfully slow. Even > browsing the web seems very slow compared to OSX (and thats no speed > demon on a G3). I assume this is partly because I am running the unix > gui on top of OSX. > > I am not a programmer, don't want to be, but do like playing around with > things now and then. So two questions before I reformat my drive. > > Is this sluggishness not present when running under linux? > > Is it stable enough to work out of the box? I want to twiddle with it > because I want to not because I have to, and frequently I have to do > work on the computer, and at those times need it to work period no > fussing. > > Thanks! > > > _______________________________________________ > No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. > Introducing My Way - http://www.myway.com > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri Jan 24 19:01:08 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Gregory Allen-Anderson) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 14:01:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: Is it worth it? Message-ID: <20030124190108.F308039F7@xmxpita.myway.com> Thank you for your feedback. Do you find it stable. Do you recommend I dual boot just in case? --- On Fri 01/24, Jason DeVita < jdevita@umich.edu > wrote: From: Jason DeVita [mailto: jdevita@umich.edu] To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 12:52:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Is it worth it? I have both ydl and xdarwin running on my ibook. KDE under darwin appears to be much slower. I usually run in full screen mode, and it takes about twice as long for kde to start up on darwin, versus on ydl. I also have to turn off all the graphics bells-and-whistles so that the screen reacts reasonably quickly. So, if my experience is typical, then you should find that kde runs much faster on the ydl side. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Introducing My Way - http://www.myway.com From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri Jan 24 19:46:45 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:46:45 -0400 Subject: Auto-Reply to: yellowdog-newbie digest, Vol 1 Message-ID: Hi. I am now getting mail at robin@hms.harvard.edu. Mail to louis should work for the short term but it is unclear for how long. Please use the new hms address. (rcolgrove@hms.harvard.edu and robert_colgrove@hms.harvard.edu will also work). Thanks, robin colgrove From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri Jan 24 19:35:40 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Larson, Timothy E.) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 13:35:40 -0600 Subject: Is it worth it? Message-ID: > Note that there are WM's much lighter than KDE/Gnome. Personally I've been using Blackbox. I'm quite happy with its functionality, and it is far faster than than the KDE/Gnome WM's. > > But then, I'm not using Linux as a desktop, either. If I were, maybe the bells and whistles of the "integrated desktop environment" would be worth the extra overhead. > > Tim > > -- > Tim Larson <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< > Info. Services - Internal Medicine Clinical Systems, Mayo Clinic, Rochester > We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. > I apologize for the irregular wrapping and quoting. I use MS Outlook. > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri Jan 24 19:52:31 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:52:31 -0400 Subject: Auto-Reply to: yellowdog-newbie digest, Vol 1 Message-ID: Hi. I am now getting mail at robin@hms.harvard.edu. Mail to louis should work for the short term but it is unclear for how long. Please use the new hms address. (rcolgrove@hms.harvard.edu and robert_colgrove@hms.harvard.edu will also work). Thanks, robin colgrove From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri Jan 24 19:46:02 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Christopher Jett) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 13:46:02 -0600 Subject: Auto-Reply to: yellowdog-newbie digest, Vol 1 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: For the love of God, someone boot this guy. on 11/15/02 10:28 PM, robin@louis.bidmc.harvard.edu at robin@louis.bidmc.harvard.edu wrote: > Hi. > I am now getting mail at robin@hms.harvard.edu. > Mail to louis should work for the short term but it is unclear for how long. > Please use the new hms address. (rcolgrove@hms.harvard.edu and > robert_colgrove@hms.harvard.edu will also work). > Thanks, > robin colgrove > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie -- Christopher Jett | Jett Fuel Productions chris@jettfuel.net | http://www.jettfuel.net (830) 798-8723 | (888) 403-JETT ----------------------------------------------- Web Design, Web Hosting, and Custom Solutions ... powered by Jett Fuel ----------------------------------------------- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri Jan 24 20:04:03 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 16:04:03 -0400 Subject: Auto-Reply to: yellowdog-newbie digest, Vol 1 Message-ID: Hi. I am now getting mail at robin@hms.harvard.edu. Mail to louis should work for the short term but it is unclear for how long. Please use the new hms address. (rcolgrove@hms.harvard.edu and robert_colgrove@hms.harvard.edu will also work). Thanks, robin colgrove From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri Jan 24 20:04:52 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 16:04:52 -0400 Subject: Auto-Reply to: yellowdog-newbie digest, Vol 1 Message-ID: Hi. I am now getting mail at robin@hms.harvard.edu. Mail to louis should work for the short term but it is unclear for how long. Please use the new hms address. (rcolgrove@hms.harvard.edu and robert_colgrove@hms.harvard.edu will also work). Thanks, robin colgrove From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri Jan 24 19:48:00 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Fred Laxton) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 14:48:00 -0500 Subject: Is it worth it? References: <20030124190108.F308039F7@xmxpita.myway.com> Message-ID: <3E319870.6070005@laxton.net> I have triple boot - YDL, OS 9, OS X - and while I used OS X for a couple of months (I like to be fluent in many OSs) I find Linux to be far faster. I followed the real video on the YDL site for guidance to set up triple boot - I have Linux, OS 9 and OS X in separate partitions. OS 9 of course suffers from the occasional lockup and disk corruption. OS X suffers from sluggish performance and the "beach ball of death" where, okay, technically it isn't locked up, but it sits there for ever with the spinning beach ball. It is also *much* harder to configure and install open source software on OS X, in spite of the FINK project, which helps a lot. Honestly, when I switch back to OS X (to play Quicktime for example) I'm taken aback when I get the spinning beachball - I'm so used to the lightning response of Linux that I've forgotten what it is like ;-) This is on a PowerBook G4 550 MHz with 512 MB RAM. I've found YDL to be extremely stable and very fast. OS X is pretty stable (I've had a few actual lockups or kernel panics). OS 9 is...a relic, but cute. My only complaint about YDL is the lack of browser plugins (like Flash) and limited selection of rpms compared to x86 distros like Mandrake. However, having said that - rpmfind.net is your friend, and you can usually compile from source. By the way, I'm also using WindowMaker instead of Gnome or KDE (they're installed, of course), which is very nice looking and quick. Regards, Fred Gregory Allen-Anderson wrote: > Thank you for your feedback. Do you find it stable. Do you recommend I dual boot just in case? > -- Fred Laxton InfoTechDesign.net - Classic Web Design & Hosting http://infotechdesign.net My contact information: http://infotechdesign.net/my_contact_information.htm Powered by Yellow Dog Linux and Mandrake Linux Registered Linux user #246414 From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri Jan 24 19:52:39 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Fred Laxton) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 14:52:39 -0500 Subject: Is it worth it? - forgot Mac-on-Linux ;-) References: <20030124190108.F308039F7@xmxpita.myway.com> <3E319870.6070005@laxton.net> Message-ID: <3E319987.5090804@laxton.net> I also forgot to mention - you can run OS 9 inside Mac-on-Linux, and it works quite well - the best of both worlds. I have it share my wireless broadband connection on Linux. It has networking and sound working fine. I haven't tried printing, but I doubt that works, but then again I don't need it anyway. OS X runs under MOL also, but I haven't gotten networking to work there...yet. Fred Laxton wrote: > My only complaint about YDL is the lack of browser plugins (like Flash) > and limited selection of rpms compared to x86 distros like Mandrake. > However, having said that - rpmfind.net is your friend, and you can > usually compile from source. > -- Fred Laxton InfoTechDesign.net - Classic Web Design & Hosting http://infotechdesign.net My contact information: http://infotechdesign.net/my_contact_information.htm Powered by Yellow Dog Linux and Mandrake Linux Registered Linux user #246414 From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri Jan 24 19:56:13 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Rob LeFebvre) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 10:56:13 -0900 Subject: Is it worth it? In-Reply-To: <20030124154321.CBD7939E4@xmxpita.myway.com> Message-ID: I run YDL on a G3 300, as well as OS X. I've got Linux running on a 6 gig partition, and I run osx on the other partition. I dual boot because Linux is such a tricky environment for my mac-head brain, that in order to get work done, I need os x. Otherwise, YDL runs great. KDE and Gnome start up fast, the browsers and email clients work as fast or faster than comparable software on os x. It's a lot of fun. Feel free to email me off list if you'd like more info. Rob -- Rob LeFebvre Geek http://www.idesignerworld.net On 1/24/03 6:43 AM, "Gregory Allen-Anderson" wrote: > > I don't even qualify as a newbie, still a wannabe! I am considering > installing linux on my IMac 500 with 512 ram slot loading (anything else > important for you to know?) > > I have been playing with KDE and Gnome and related apps under Darwin, and most > of them work fairly well, but they are awfully slow. Even browsing the web > seems very slow compared to OSX (and thats no speed demon on a G3). I assume > this is partly because I am running the unix gui on top of OSX. > > I am not a programmer, don't want to be, but do like playing around with > things now and then. So two questions before I reformat my drive. > > Is this sluggishness not present when running under linux? > > Is it stable enough to work out of the box? I want to twiddle with it because > I want to not because I have to, and frequently I have to do work on the > computer, and at those times need it to work period no fussing. > > Thanks! > > > _______________________________________________ > No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. > Introducing My Way - target=_blank>http://www.myway.com > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri Jan 24 20:20:14 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 16:20:14 -0400 Subject: Auto-Reply to: yellowdog-newbie digest, Vol 1 Message-ID: Hi. I am now getting mail at robin@hms.harvard.edu. Mail to louis should work for the short term but it is unclear for how long. Please use the new hms address. (rcolgrove@hms.harvard.edu and robert_colgrove@hms.harvard.edu will also work). Thanks, robin colgrove From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri Jan 24 20:05:18 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Rob LeFebvre) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 11:05:18 -0900 Subject: Is it worth it? - forgot Mac-on-Linux ;-) In-Reply-To: <3E319987.5090804@laxton.net> Message-ID: I've had real trouble getting MOL to work. Is your OS 9 on a separate partition? Mine isn't, and I'm guessing that might be the problem. I've got it all installed and compiled and the like, but it just hangs on the happy mac screen. Rob On 1/24/03 10:52 AM, "Fred Laxton" wrote: > I also forgot to mention - you can run OS 9 inside Mac-on-Linux, and it > works quite well - the best of both worlds. I have it share my wireless > broadband connection on Linux. It has networking and sound working > fine. I haven't tried printing, but I doubt that works, but then again > I don't need it anyway. OS X runs under MOL also, but I haven't gotten > networking to work there...yet. > > Fred Laxton wrote: > >> My only complaint about YDL is the lack of browser plugins (like Flash) >> and limited selection of rpms compared to x86 distros like Mandrake. >> However, having said that - rpmfind.net is your friend, and you can >> usually compile from source. >> > > -- > Fred Laxton > > InfoTechDesign.net - Classic Web Design & Hosting > http://infotechdesign.net > > My contact information: > http://infotechdesign.net/my_contact_information.htm > > Powered by Yellow Dog Linux and Mandrake Linux > Registered Linux user #246414 > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri Jan 24 20:36:48 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 16:36:48 -0400 Subject: Auto-Reply to: yellowdog-newbie digest, Vol 1 Message-ID: Hi. I am now getting mail at robin@hms.harvard.edu. Mail to louis should work for the short term but it is unclear for how long. Please use the new hms address. (rcolgrove@hms.harvard.edu and robert_colgrove@hms.harvard.edu will also work). Thanks, robin colgrove From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri Jan 24 20:23:43 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Chuck Coleman) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 12:23:43 -0800 Subject: Auto-Reply to: yellowdog-newbie digest, Vol 1 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The majordomo of this list is not very good at blocking these auto replies. And being Friday you will see these all weekend and maybe longer. Chuck Coleman ---------------------------------------- Put an end to bad service BOYCOTT MACMall/MAC-CLUB/PCMall http://www.macintouch.com/macmall01.html From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri Jan 24 20:53:34 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 16:53:34 -0400 Subject: Auto-Reply to: yellowdog-newbie digest, Vol 1 Message-ID: Hi. I am now getting mail at robin@hms.harvard.edu. Mail to louis should work for the short term but it is unclear for how long. Please use the new hms address. (rcolgrove@hms.harvard.edu and robert_colgrove@hms.harvard.edu will also work). Thanks, robin colgrove From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri Jan 24 20:57:46 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 16:57:46 -0400 Subject: Auto-Reply to: yellowdog-newbie digest, Vol 1 Message-ID: Hi. I am now getting mail at robin@hms.harvard.edu. Mail to louis should work for the short term but it is unclear for how long. Please use the new hms address. (rcolgrove@hms.harvard.edu and robert_colgrove@hms.harvard.edu will also work). Thanks, robin colgrove From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat Jan 25 04:04:55 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Ray Lacgalvs) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 14:04:55 +1000 Subject: dual boot won`t work now In-Reply-To: <1043427860.14966.2.camel@Falcon> Message-ID: Thanks, I agree, it appears os9 needs to be first - reinstalled ydl & seems ok. -- regards, Ray Lacgalvs. > From: Joseph Syjuco > Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > Date: 24 Jan 2003 17:04:20 +0000 > To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > Subject: Re: dual boot won`t work now > > what i did i installed os first then ydl > On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 19:19, Ray Lacgalvs wrote: >> hello all, >> Installed YDL from cd on my iBook & all went well until I had to reload OS9 >> over the existing install. >> Can now only boot into YDL using the "network disk" on the startup disk >> control panel which takes an awfully long time. >> I've only just installed YDL & never got a chance to shutdown & restart >> before reinstalling OS9 again, so don't know if it is normal NOT to boot >> from the normal startup disk. >> I suspect the reinstall may have changed something & would like to know if: >> 1) YDL should boot from the startup disk or the network disk? >> 2) If the former, do I have to reinstall YDL to get dual boot back? >> >> Any advice much appreciated. >> regards,ray. >> >> >> > > > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat Jan 25 04:24:17 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Ray Lacgalvs) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 14:24:17 +1000 Subject: Wallstreet Install . . . HELP! In-Reply-To: <478C4962-2F4F-11D7-8E10-000A277A97D6@nosaltnetwork.com> Message-ID: Just installed ydl on my iBook & seems ok after some incompetent fiddling on my part. I am by no means informed on this subject but I used the notes from the ydl online class (excerpt below) to sort the monitor settings. After a bit of fiddling all seems to be well. There is a "failsafe" option somewhere in the setup you can use if necessary. hope this helps. regards, ray. MAC-ON-LINUX Mac-on-Linux (MOL) requires minor setup. From within KDE or Gnome launch a shell (In KDE, K menu --> System --> shell). To configure MOL's video settings, run: su [ENTER](enter password) molvconfig [ENTER] Select the appropriate monitor settings. If you do not have an iBook or Titanium PowerBook, use "fb.modes". Select the monitor resolution and refresh rate that you believe is correct. If you see RED, press the "y" key, and the same for BLUE and GREEN. If you see only BLACK, press the "n" key until you return to the command line and then select another resolution until you find one that enables RED, BLUE, and GREEN. If you want to go back and try again, simply run 'molvconfig' again and opt to delete the previous settings. Finally, you must edit the file /etc/molrc: pico /etc/molrc [ENTER] CONTROL-W [ENTER] 48 [ENTER] (searches the text for the number '48') ... and change the amount of RAM to something greater than '48' but lesss than the physical amount installed in your computer, such as '128'. CONTROL-W [ENTER] /dev/hda/ [ENTER] ... and modify the /dev/hda/ to be more specific, pointing directly to the partition that contains Mac OS, such as /dev/hda7/. This will keep the boot partition from being damaged by MOL. Change '-ro' to "'-rw' for each drive partition that you want to have read/write while using MOL. Instructions for using 'pico' are presented on the bottom of the screen. MOL can run with KDE or Gnome, if launched from a GUI terminal. To run full screen, switch to terminal 2 (OPTION-APPLE-F2), login as root, and then: startmol [ENTER] If you have any difficulties visit www.maconlinux.org. ENGINEERS' NOTES * Original iBooks: may not function with accelerated video. During monitor setup, select non-accelerated; or post-installation, from the command line, login as root and then: /usr/lib/yi/dexter.py [ENTER] > From: Brian Alston > Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 22:52:37 -0500 > To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > Subject: Wallstreet Install . . . HELP! > > Hello All > > Has anybody been able to get YDL to properly install on a PowerBook > Wallstreet? I have a PowerBook Wallstreet 233MHz with a 12.1" display. I > have YDL v2.3 that I am trying to install. I set the BootX kernel > arguments field to "video=atyfb:vmode:10" and I get the text mode > looking great. It is when I try to start up a GUI that's when everything > goes away. I can see my screen but just barely. It is as if the contrast > is completely gone and the display looks totally washed out. I got YDL > to install all the way. Everything works great, including the GUI, but I > just can't see anything. When I boot back into OS 9 my display looks > great. It is just when I try to go into a Linux GUI that I have > problems. I think I may just need some contrast control but my contrast > button doesn't do anything in Linux. I have tried other options (like > the force video mode) but it just won't work. > > If anybody can offer any suggestions, I would very much appreciate > the help. > > Thanks, have a good one > > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat Jan 25 05:08:17 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Ray Lacgalvs) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 15:08:17 +1000 Subject: Is it worth it? - forgot Mac-on-Linux ;-) In-Reply-To: <3E319987.5090804@laxton.net> Message-ID: Hello all, watching with interest your posts as I installed ydl on my G3 750 iBook yesterday. It appears the basics are working ok. Need my Mac side for software, trading the stock market. Until, I can learn enough about ydl, databases, charting & live data feeds, this will be the case. >From the post can I deduce that ydl can be networked somehow so that mol & ydl are online both at the same time? Still trying to sort out how to research the help files on ydl with most of the language being foreign to me. However any clues as to where to start would be most welcome. The main focus is to be able to have a live data feed, be able to run excel web queries & be able to update some native Mac charting software throughout the day. Any advice much appreciated . regards, Ray. > From: Fred Laxton > Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 14:52:39 -0500 > To: Fred Laxton > Cc: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > Subject: Re: Is it worth it? - forgot Mac-on-Linux ;-) > > I also forgot to mention - you can run OS 9 inside Mac-on-Linux, and it > works quite well - the best of both worlds. I have it share my wireless > broadband connection on Linux. It has networking and sound working > fine. I haven't tried printing, but I doubt that works, but then again > I don't need it anyway. OS X runs under MOL also, but I haven't gotten > networking to work there...yet. > > Fred Laxton wrote: > >> My only complaint about YDL is the lack of browser plugins (like Flash) >> and limited selection of rpms compared to x86 distros like Mandrake. >> However, having said that - rpmfind.net is your friend, and you can >> usually compile from source. >> > > -- > Fred Laxton > > InfoTechDesign.net - Classic Web Design & Hosting > http://infotechdesign.net > > My contact information: > http://infotechdesign.net/my_contact_information.htm > > Powered by Yellow Dog Linux and Mandrake Linux > Registered Linux user #246414 > > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat Jan 25 06:22:35 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Fred Laxton) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 01:22:35 -0500 Subject: Is it worth it? - forgot Mac-on-Linux ;-) References: Message-ID: <3E322D2B.40907@laxton.net> I checked, and I have Mac OS 9 set to use IP 192.168.0.7, while Linux uses 192.168.0.5. Other than that, it works fine, and should do everything you described. It looks intimidating if you've never edited a configuration file, but it really isn't a big deal. Start with the stock files that come with MOL, and make a backup of every file you change in case you mess up, until you get it working. I use this command to start MOL: kdesu /home/fred/bin/molos9.sh I found that it doesn't work right unless I run MOL as root. "kdesu" opens a root password prompt, and then runs the rest of the command as root. Here's the contents of that bash script: umount /MacOS9 umount /MacOSX startmol -a mount /MacOS9 mount /MacOSX Following is my /etc/mol/molrc.macos configuration file (look at it, don't just copy it in, as the line wraps in email will break it): # -*- perl -*- (for emacs syntax coloring) # # /etc/mol/molrc. Mac-on-Linux master configuration file for MacOS booting # #------------------------------------------------------------------------------ # Parse other config files (these files are in /etc/mol/) #------------------------------------------------------------------------------ include ${etc}/molrc.video # video configuration include ${etc}/molrc.input # mouse and keyboard include ${etc}/molrc.net # networking #------------------------------------------------------------------------------ # Misc Settings #------------------------------------------------------------------------------ #ram_size: 48 # should probably be increased ram_size: 128 # should probably be increased disable_altivec: no # sound_driver: dsp # (any | dsp | esd) sound_device: /dev/dsp play_startboing: no # Play startboing #disable_sound: yes # #------------------------------------------------------------------------------ # HFS Volumes #------------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # To use a HFS disk in mol, add a blkdev line. The syntax is # # blkdev: [flags] # # where can be an entire disk (/dev/sda), a single # partition (/dev/sda6) or a disk image (/home/samuel/moldisk). # # Valid flags are # # -rw/-ro read-write / read-only [default] # -force export non-HFS partitions (be careful!) # -cd CD # -boot boot from this disk. # # Session 0, boot from harddisk ifeq ${session} 0 { blkdev: /dev/hda9 -rw -boot blkdev: /dev/hda10 -rw blkdev: /dev/cdrom -cd # blkdev: /dev/sdb -rw } # Session 1 (boot from install CD) ifeq ${session} 1 { blkdev: /dev/cdrom -cd -boot blkdev: /dev/hda9 -rw blkdev: /dev/hda10 -rw # blkdev: /dev/sda -rw # blkdev: /dev/sdb -rw } #------------------------------------------------------------------------------ # MacOS ROM Newworld Configuration #------------------------------------------------------------------------------# # # By default, MOL loads the 'Mac OS ROM' file directly from the System Folder # of the startup disk. If this is not desirable (e.g. if the ROM happens # to be incompatible and it is desirable to use another version), the ROM # can be loaded from linux by using the newworld_rom keyword. Note that # the ROM file must be copied to the linux side as a *binary* without # any kind of encoding (avoid MacBinary in particular). # # newworld_rom: /BK/roms/rom.1.6.nw Ray Lacgalvs wrote: > Hello all, > watching with interest your posts as I installed ydl on my G3 750 iBook > yesterday. > It appears the basics are working ok. > Need my Mac side for software, trading the stock market. Until, I can learn > enough about ydl, databases, charting & live data feeds, this will be the > case. >>From the post can I deduce that ydl can be networked somehow so that mol & > ydl are online both at the same time? > Still trying to sort out how to research the help files on ydl with most of > the language being foreign to me. > However any clues as to where to start would be most welcome. > The main focus is to be able to have a live data feed, be able to run excel > web queries & be able to update some native Mac charting software throughout > the day. > Any advice much appreciated . > > regards, Ray. > -- Fred Laxton InfoTechDesign.net - Classic Web Design & Hosting http://infotechdesign.net My contact information: http://infotechdesign.net/my_contact_information.htm Powered by Yellow Dog Linux and Mandrake Linux Registered Linux user #246414 From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat Jan 25 19:26:11 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 14:26:11 -0500 Subject: I got cd player sound in my IBOOK!!! Message-ID: <200301251926.h0PJQBv14680@perseus.services.brown.edu> Hi all: Finally after a lots of trials and errors I got XMMS working in my ibook (running gnome in YDL 2.3) The trick was to change a little bit the configuration of XMMS... open XMMS put the cursor on the black window and press ctrl-p (preferences) In Audio I/O Plugins 1) select and enable AudioCD Reader 0.11d (the enable plugin must be checked at the bottom-right of the window) 2) press configure...(I mean configure the Audio CD reader plugin)... in the Output tab check..Read Digital CD Audio...say OK 3) select and disable CD Audio Player 1.2.5 (the enable plugin must be unchecked at the bootom-right of the window) 4)press Apply and OK 5) Insert your CD and in the black window of XMMS press the eject key... 6) in the dialog window LOAD FILE write... choose /mnt/cdrom in the Directory and write /dev/cdrom in the selection:/mnt/cdrom at the bottom say OK... 7) press the play key in XMMS 8) if you just got noise...deselect the equalizer in the XMMS window. good luck JM (KONGO) Farina /dev/cdrom From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun Jan 26 06:52:51 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (B. Charles Reynolds) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 21:52:51 -0900 Subject: ... apt ... from behind firewall??? In-Reply-To: <7164B4D5.09F239D2.6A01E670@netscape.net> Message-ID: On Wednesday, January 22, 2003, at 12:27 PM, Bill Hughes wrote: > Anyone know how to configure "apt" to connect from a firewall/proxy??? > > I've set the "web-browsing" Proxy (also ftp) ports and can surf > etc..., will apt just work the same??? It should just work the same (see below) I don't know precisely which tcp/udp port(s) apt uses, but you need to configure your _firewall_ to allow the traffic rather than apt. I needed no additional configuration for apt to work through my firewall (Linux DachStein floppy distro w/NAT on 486DX100 with 16MB RAM, no HDD). I suspect that apt does not use a proxy unless told to do so on the command line (and I haven't seen that option) or forced through a proxy by firewall rules. If forced through by a firewall, it should behave no different than if it were directly exposed to the internet. __ Charles Interested in natural health solutions that are founded in advanced science? Then check out http://www.reynet.org/ E-mail: charlesreynolds@mac.com From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon Jan 27 13:18:19 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Brian Alston) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 08:18:19 -0500 Subject: Wallstreet Contrast Problem Message-ID: --Apple-Mail-2-941790077 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hello All I have a 1998 PowerBook G3 (Wallstreet) 233MHz with YellowDog Linux (version 2.3) installed. Linux works great on this Mac which is why I wanted to install it; OS X was just too slow. The only problem I have is that when I sleep my PowerBook and then wake it up again the contrast is completely washed out. I can see the display but barely (it helps if I look from the top down at an angle). The only option I am left with is to reboot the machine again, and I don't want to have to do that everytime I want to move my PowerBook. Has anybody had any experience with this sort of thing that can help out? Is there some sort of PPC shareware that will let me adjust the contrast from within Linux? I have found a similar piece of shareware for OS X. I ask this as my contrast button on the machine itself does not work in Linux. I have tried many different options in the kernel arguments field but no luck. Any help you could offer would be greatly appreciated. Thanks --Apple-Mail-2-941790077 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Hello All GenevaI have a 1998 PowerBook G3 (Wallstreet) 233MHz with YellowDog Linux (version 2.3) installed. Linux works great on this Mac which is why I wanted to install it; OS X was just too slow. The only problem I have is that when I sleep my PowerBook and then wake it up again the contrast is completely washed out. I can see the display but barely (it helps if I look from the top down at an angle). The only option I am left with is to reboot the machine again, and I don't want to have to do that everytime I want to move my PowerBook. Has anybody had any experience with this sort of thing that can help out? Is there some sort of PPC shareware that will let me adjust the contrast from within Linux? I have found a similar piece of shareware for OS X. I ask this as my contrast button on the machine itself does not work in Linux. I have tried many different options in the kernel arguments field but no luck. Any help you could offer would be greatly appreciated. Thanks --Apple-Mail-2-941790077-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon Jan 27 16:11:16 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (bzh) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:11:16 GMT Subject: Are these processors compatible with yelowDog Linux v2.3? Message-ID: <200301271611.10fc@th00.opsion.fr> Hi these ones: mpc8xx mpc82xx mpc74xx Thanks, bzh ____________________________________________________________= _________ Envie de discuter en "live" avec vos amis ? T=E9l=E9charger = MSN Messenger http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/m la 1=E8re messagerie instant= an=E9e de France From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon Jan 27 20:42:58 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Scott Alan Burch) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 14:42:58 -0600 Subject: compiling ATI driver Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030127141219.00aa0210@mail.mindspring.com> I got YDL 2.3 installed over the weekend on a 9600 with a Powerlogix ZIF/G3 500 chip, which I believe is really running at 333mhz or so ... I could only get the X configuration to see "fbdev" as a driver for my ATI card. Consequently, I am running KDE at 1024x768 @ 8bits. I tried to use the other ATI driver choices, but they did not work. In looking around the directories, I did find what I am guessing is an uncompiled driver for the ATI Mach64 GX card I have; it has a .c extension. I opened it in pico and found the libraries it requires, and tried to compile it after reading the man gcc pages. I got an error message that it could not find one of the files it requires, video/fbcon.h. I could locate it, and I opened it in pico, so I know it's real. So I guess I have two questions: Do I have to compile this code to make the driver for my card? What can I do to make gcc see this file? thanks ## scott From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue Jan 28 14:25:31 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (John van Vlaaderen) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 09:25:31 -0500 Subject: New Install - need to break up UserSpace partition for /, /boot Message-ID: <5AF55E20-32CC-11D7-B633-003065F15622@nyc.rr.com> Hello, I have an iMac that I want to multi-boot w/ Yellowdawg. I was getting ready to install are realized that linux doesnt work with Mac OSs. I have a huge HFS -- UserSpace -- drive that I want to split to add the boot and / directories. How do I break up this partition to create /, /boot and UserSpace so that OSX will come up ok ?? Looks complicated -- confused here how the OSX mounting works. TIA, John From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon Jan 27 20:17:19 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (tobe) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 14:17:19 -0600 Subject: Install Fails at package transfer on YDL 2.3 (iMac) Message-ID: <3E3593CF.7050708@netscape.net> I have tried to install YDL 2.3 several times. It boots fine and everything appears normal on the GUI install. However it goes to read the install media package database, then resolves dependencies and when it goes to package transfer it fails and says to correct this manually. I read on a list somewhere that the partitioning was done wrong. I went through a custom install using text base and verified this myself. If you go through the drive partitioning scheme it will erroneously map your partitions or this is how it seems. It would show my bootstrap as swap space each time. I would go back and check it and that was the mapping. Very frustrated with this since I hear Yellow dog is fairly stable distro. Thanks for any help. (Commandertobe@netscape.net) feel free to reply. thanks tobe -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue Jan 28 22:10:24 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Bill Hughes) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 17:10:24 -0500 Subject: compiling ATI driver Message-ID: <235D9736.4C434FE8.6A01E670@netscape.net> Good luck in getting anyone here to help you with this issue. I've posted quite a few times about similar problems with my PPC 9500 (XLR8 G3/500) w/ATI Radeon [PCI]) and no one has ever replied to my question. I too am only seeing the fbdev driver. I don't know enough about Linux and compiling code to know exactly what you did when you ".I opened it in pico and found the libraries it requires, and tried to compile it after reading the man gcc pages. I got an error message that it could not find one of the files it requires, video/fbcon.h. I could locate it, and I opened it in pico, so I know it's real.", but you're FAR ahead of me getting 1024x768 8bit video. I've only hit twice, and the video only shows up on the left half of my screen, or won't at all with anything other than 640x480 (using the "Generic SVGA driver- when running "/usr/lib/yi/dexter.py" ). I tried altering the profile once I had finaly gotten to KDE, but upon restarting X, no dice whatsoever. So far, the only concrete info that I can offer, is to downgrade to YDL 2.2, as it seems this is the only way to get "OldWorld" Macs to run YDL stable. I wish YDL would at least give us a new XFree86 rpm to so if maybe this issue with ATI/PCI cards on "OldWorld" Macs is resolved, but I'm not holding my breath. Only other alternative I've thought about, is just trying another Distro of Linux for PPC. Good Luck, and please email me if you get this resolved, as I really like that YDL is based off of Red Hat (Which I've tinkered with on x86, but there are major differences as far as initial setup goes), but it is useless to me until I learn the command-line, and that in and of itself, is a project all it's own. >>From: Scott Alan Burch Subject: compiling ATI driver Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com I got YDL 2.3 installed over the weekend on a 9600 with a Powerlogix ZIF/G3 500 chip, which I believe is really running at 333mhz or so ... I could only get the X configuration to see "fbdev" as a driver for my ATI card. Consequently, I am running KDE at 1024x768 @ 8bits. I tried to use the other ATI driver choices, but they did not work. In looking around the directories, I did find what I am guessing is an uncompiled driver for the ATI Mach64 GX card I have; it has a .c extension. I opened it in pico and found the libraries it requires, and tried to compile it after reading the man gcc pages. I got an error message that it could not find one of the files it requires, video/fbcon.h. I could locate it, and I opened it in pico, so I know it's real. So I guess I have two questions: Do I have to compile this code to make the driver for my card? What can I do to make gcc see this file? thanks ## scott -- ___________________________________________________________ I made conscience decision in a "semi-conscious" state __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue Jan 28 22:57:22 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Scott Alan Burch) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 16:57:22 -0600 Subject: compiling ATI driver In-Reply-To: <235D9736.4C434FE8.6A01E670@netscape.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030128161311.00acfa00@mail.mindspring.com> I have also posted this same question to LinuxQuestions.org -- check out the newbie section there. The dexter.py application was useless as was "failsafe" because it did not change the driver from "aty" -- which doesn't work -- to "fbdev", which does. I fired up my text editor "pico" and I wound up commenting out every last mode line in XF86Config-4. I made sure the "Device" section had "fbdev" as the driver. I changed the "Screen" section DefaultDepth to 8. I changed the "Display" subsections for Depth 8, 15 and 16 to each read Modes "1024x768" ; and changed the ViewPort and Virtual lines to each read "0 0". [I found out through trial and error that the ViewPort and Virtual lines must read that way or the desktop becomes bigger than you can view and your mouse pushes out the edge of the screen. Very annoying.] I thought about trying another distro but for Old World Macs, NetBSD seems to be about it because they don't seem to have an issue with CPU cards. I looked into it and decided not to try when I read about the Open Firmware requirements. YDL is stable for me on 2.4; it's just aggravating when I know there's a better driver and I can't use it to get to 24 bit video. ## scott At 05:10 PM 1/28/03 -0500, you wrote: >Good luck in getting anyone here to help you with this issue. I've posted >quite a few times about similar problems with my PPC 9500 (XLR8 G3/500) >w/ATI Radeon [PCI]) and no one has ever replied to my question. I too am >only seeing the fbdev driver. >I don't know enough about Linux and compiling code to know exactly what >you did when you ".I opened it in pico and found the libraries it >requires, and tried to >compile it after reading the man gcc pages. I got an error message that it >could not find one of the files it requires, video/fbcon.h. I could locate >it, and I opened it in pico, so I know it's real.", but you're FAR ahead >of me getting 1024x768 8bit video. > >I've only hit twice, and the video only shows up on the left half of my >screen, or won't at all with anything other than 640x480 (using the >"Generic SVGA driver- when running "/usr/lib/yi/dexter.py" ). I tried >altering the profile once I had finaly gotten to KDE, but upon restarting >X, no dice whatsoever. > >So far, the only concrete info that I can offer, is to downgrade to YDL >2.2, as it seems this is the only way to get "OldWorld" Macs to run YDL stable. > >I wish YDL would at least give us a new XFree86 rpm to so if maybe this >issue with ATI/PCI cards on "OldWorld" Macs is resolved, but I'm not >holding my breath. > >Only other alternative I've thought about, is just trying another Distro >of Linux for PPC. > >Good Luck, and please email me if you get this resolved, as I really like >that YDL is based off of Red Hat (Which I've tinkered with on x86, but >there are major differences as far as initial setup goes), but it is >useless to me until I learn the command-line, and that in and of itself, >is a project all it's own. > > >>From: Scott Alan Burch >Subject: compiling ATI driver >Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > > >I got YDL 2.3 installed over the weekend on a 9600 with a Powerlogix ZIF/G3 >500 chip, which I believe is really running at 333mhz or so ... > >I could only get the X configuration to see "fbdev" as a driver for my ATI >card. Consequently, I am running KDE at 1024x768 @ 8bits. I tried to use >the other ATI driver choices, but they did not work. In looking around the >directories, I did find what I am guessing is an uncompiled driver for the >ATI Mach64 GX card I have; it has a .c extension. > >I opened it in pico and found the libraries it requires, and tried to >compile it after reading the man gcc pages. I got an error message that it >could not find one of the files it requires, video/fbcon.h. I could locate >it, and I opened it in pico, so I know it's real. > >So I guess I have two questions: >Do I have to compile this code to make the driver for my card? >What can I do to make gcc see this file? > >thanks ## scott > >-- >___________________________________________________________ >I made conscience decision in a "semi-conscious" state > > >__________________________________________________________________ >The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! >http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp > >Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at >http://webmail.netscape.com/ >_______________________________________________ >yellowdog-newbie mailing list >yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie Accom <=> Powered by Abekas Digital Editing Systems, Servers & HD Disk Recorders Scott Alan Burch / Regional Sales Manager Accom, Inc. www.accom.com <>(281) 313-1616 <> e-fax (530) 698-6788 <> From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed Jan 29 00:03:07 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 19:03:07 EST Subject: Install Fails at package transfer on YDL 2.3 (iMac) Message-ID: <97.3344b01d.2b68743b@aol.com> --part1_97.3344b01d.2b68743b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 1/28/03 2:19:55 PM, commandertobe@netscape.net writes: > I have tried to install YDL 2.3 several times.=A0 It boots fine and=20 > everything appears normal on the GUI install.=A0 However it goes to read=20 > the install media package database, then resolves dependencies and when=20 > it goes to package transfer it fails and says to correct this manually. >=20 > I read on a list somewhere that the partitioning was done wrong.=A0 I went= =20 > through a custom install using text base and verified this myself.=A0 If=20 > you go through the drive partitioning scheme it will erroneously map=20 > your partitions or this is how it seems.=A0 It would show my bootstrap as=20 > swap space each time.=A0 I would go back and check it and that was the=20 > mapping.=A0 Very frustrated with this since I hear Yellow dog is fairly=20 > stable distro.=A0 Thanks for any help.=A0 (Commandertobe@netscape.net) fee= l=20 > free to reply. >=20 >=20 I had the same problem and kept trying to install. I did hook up a 9gb ext= .=20 drive and try one more time and for no appearent reason, it worked. Go=20 figure. Anyhow, I wish I could tell you exactly how I got it to work but perseveranc= e=20 and being mule stubborn in my continued attempts seems to be the only thing=20 other than trying the final hard drive (tried several before that). Oh=20 yeah, I switched to chocalate Klondike bars somewhere along the line. Good Luck! Rick --part1_97.3344b01d.2b68743b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/28/03 2:19:55 PM, commandertobe@netscape.net writes:

I have tried to install YDL 2.3 several times.=A0 It boots fi= ne and
everything appears normal on the GUI install.=A0 However it goes to read the install media package database, then resolves dependencies and when
it goes to package transfer it fails and says to correct this manually.

I read on a list somewhere that the partitioning was done wrong.=A0 I went <= BR> through a custom install using text base and verified this myself.=A0 If you go through the drive partitioning scheme it will erroneously map
your partitions or this is how it seems.=A0 It would show my bootstrap as swap space each time.=A0 I would go back and check it and that was the
mapping.=A0 Very frustrated with this since I hear Yellow dog is fairly
stable distro.=A0 Thanks for any help.=A0 (Commandertobe@netscape.net) feel=20=
free to reply.

I had the same problem and kept trying to install. I did hook up a 9g= b ext. drive and try one more time and for no appearent reason, it worked.&n= bsp; Go figure.

Anyhow, I wish I could tell you exactly how I got it to work but perseveranc= e and being mule stubborn in my continued attempts seems to be the only thin= g other than trying the final hard drive (tried several before that). =20= Oh yeah, I switched to chocalate Klondike bars somewhere along the line. Good Luck!

Rick --part1_97.3344b01d.2b68743b_boundary-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed Jan 29 02:12:05 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Markus Deistler) Date: 29 Jan 2003 02:12:05 +0000 Subject: compiling ATI driver In-Reply-To: <235D9736.4C434FE8.6A01E670@netscape.net> References: <235D9736.4C434FE8.6A01E670@netscape.net> Message-ID: <1043806328.25457.120.camel@tullius.kriemhild.de> Hi, > >>From: Scott Alan Burch > Subject: compiling ATI driver > Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > ATI Mach64 GX card I have; it has a .c extension. Seems to be an old problem, there are postings (lists.linuxppc.org) saying that ATI-Mach64-based cards *with* IBM-RAMDAC are *not* supported by XF4.x's atidriver !!! If your card is one of those (my 'ATI Xlaim GA' is, sigh), bad luck. To get accelerated 24-bit-video Xpmac has to be installed (see below). Using the XF4.2's fbdev-driver-module isn't really an alternative (too slow, just limited number of colors ... ok, there is a strange thing I discovered for 'fbdev': You may set the default color depth to "15" in order to get mice 16bit-video, while default color depth 16 results in weird colors, and depth 8 isn't fun with KDE/GNOME). > directories, I did find what I am guessing is an uncompiled driver for the > ATI Mach64 GX card I have; it has a .c extension. [snip] > Do I have to compile this code to make the driver for my card? A compiled atidriver is part of XF4.2 and sits somewhere on your hard disk. Recompiling wouldn't help much, unless you rewrite the driver :-)); I got much better and really accelerated GUI-support by returning to old Xpmac-3.3.6-20b, XFree86-Xpmac-3.3.6-20b.ppc.rpm can be found here: http://telia.dl.sourceforge.net/mirrors/linuxppc/linuxppc-halloween/software (YDL offers an older version of Xpmac in its old champion-1.2-release, which might also work). That said, while Xpmac is a solution for ancient Macs with ancient video hardware, I doubt whether it is good for newer ATI's Radeon stuff :-(( I am just about compiling XF4.3 (or '4.2.99') from source, (ftp://ppc.linux.or.jp/pub/users/fukui/XF4.3) I'll try to create a rpm-package and see whether there are any good news concerning XFree86...; Best Regards, Markus From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed Jan 29 01:27:45 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Ray Lacgalvs) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:27:45 +1000 Subject: New Install - need to break up UserSpace partition for /, /boot In-Reply-To: <5AF55E20-32CC-11D7-B633-003065F15622@nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: These notes come from http://www.linux.org/ online classes. Hope they help, but be aware that without backing up your data it will be lost. Single Drive: Multi-Boot System with either BootX or yaboot You are now going to use Apple's Drive Setup application to format and partition your drive. Please note that this procedure completely reformats and DESTROYS ALL DATA on your drive. 1. Insert the Mac OS Software Install CD. 2. Restart your computer. 3. Hold the "C" key until you have booted from the Mac OS Software Install CD (you will see a repetition of CDs as the background image). 4. Double-click on the Install CD. Double-click on the Utilities folder. Double-click the utility Drive Setup.* 5. Select the drive you wish to partition. 6. Select Initialize. 7. Select Custom Setup. 8. Where the pull-down menu displays "Partitioning Scheme" select 2 or 3 partitions. If you are to install YDL + Mac OS 9, select 2. And if you are to install YDL + Mac OS 9 + Mac OS X, select 3 partitions. 9. Select the first (top) partition and where the pull-down menu displays "Mac OS Extended", select "unallocated". Select the second (bottom) partition and then "Mac OS Standard".** If you are to install Mac OS X, the 3rd and last partition should be formatted as "Mac OS Extended". 10. Select Ok. 11. Select Initialize. 12. Quit the Drive Setup utility. 13. Double click on Mac OS Installer. 14. Rename the 2nd partition to "Mac OS 9". If you are to install Mac OS X, the 3rd partition may be renamed "Mac OS X". 15. Install Mac OS 9 and/or Mac OS X according to the on-screen instructions. -- regards, ray. > From: John van Vlaaderen > Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 09:25:31 -0500 > To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > Subject: New Install - need to break up UserSpace partition for /, /boot > > > Hello, I have an iMac that I want to multi-boot w/ Yellowdawg. > > I was getting ready to install are realized that linux doesnt work with > Mac OSs. > > I have a huge HFS -- UserSpace -- drive that I want to split to add the > boot and / directories. > > How do I break up this partition to create /, /boot and UserSpace so > that OSX will come up ok ?? > > Looks complicated -- confused here how the OSX mounting works. > > TIA, John > > > > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed Jan 29 02:37:30 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Markus Deistler) Date: 29 Jan 2003 02:37:30 +0000 Subject: compiling ATI driver part II In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20030128161311.00acfa00@mail.mindspring.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030128161311.00acfa00@mail.mindspring.com> Message-ID: <1043807689.25244.142.camel@tullius.kriemhild.de> Hi, On Tue 2003-01-28 um 22.57 Scott Alan Burch wrote: > The dexter.py application was useless as was "failsafe" because it did not > change the driver from "aty" -- which doesn't work -- to "fbdev", which ^^^^^ Typo?? 'atyfb' is the thing to put to your kernel-command video options at startup for console-video, but 'ati' has to be put to XF86-Config-4 if the Xserver's atidriver-module is supposed to be used... > "fbdev" as the driver. I changed the "Screen" section DefaultDepth to 8. I Try DefaultDepth 15, got at least 16-bit-colors with 'fbdev' here ...; > I thought about trying another distro but for Old World Macs, NetBSD It's not the distro that sucks, it is XF4.x's lack of support for ancient Mac-video-hardware. I guess most current distros will just come with XF4.2 or XF4.3, so trying different distros might not help at all. Xpmac might help you...see my other posting ...; Markus From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed Jan 29 01:45:33 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (John van Vlaaderen) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 20:45:33 -0500 Subject: New Install - need to break up UserSpace partition for /, /boot In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5AFE672A-332B-11D7-AE84-003065F15622@nyc.rr.com> Thanks Ray.. but the DESTROYS ALL DATA is what I am hoping to avoid. It sucks that you cant just fix things, as in PC Linux. On Linux I would use partition editor gnu parted to resize etc. too bad :( On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, at 08:27 PM, Ray Lacgalvs wrote: > These notes come from http://www.linux.org/ online classes. > Hope they help, but be aware that without backing up your data it will > be > lost. > > Single Drive: Multi-Boot System with either BootX or yaboot > > You are now going to use Apple's Drive Setup application to format and > partition your drive. Please note that this procedure completely > reformats > and DESTROYS ALL DATA on your drive. > > 1. Insert the Mac OS Software Install CD. > 2. Restart your computer. > 3. Hold the "C" key until you have booted from the Mac OS Software > Install CD (you will see a repetition of CDs as the background image). > 4. Double-click on the Install CD. Double-click on the Utilities > folder. > Double-click the utility Drive Setup.* > 5. Select the drive you wish to partition. > 6. Select Initialize. > 7. Select Custom Setup. > 8. Where the pull-down menu displays "Partitioning Scheme" select 2 > or 3 > partitions. If you are to install YDL + Mac OS 9, select 2. And if you > are > to install YDL + Mac OS 9 + Mac OS X, select 3 partitions. > 9. Select the first (top) partition and where the pull-down menu > displays > "Mac OS Extended", select "unallocated". Select the second (bottom) > partition and then "Mac OS Standard".** If you are to install Mac OS X, > the > 3rd and last partition should be formatted as "Mac OS Extended". > 10. Select Ok. > 11. Select Initialize. > 12. Quit the Drive Setup utility. > 13. Double click on Mac OS Installer. > 14. Rename the 2nd partition to "Mac OS 9". If you are to install > Mac OS > X, the 3rd partition may be renamed "Mac OS X". > 15. Install Mac OS 9 and/or Mac OS X according to the on-screen > instructions. > > -- > regards, ray. > > >> From: John van Vlaaderen >> Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 09:25:31 -0500 >> To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >> Subject: New Install - need to break up UserSpace partition for /, >> /boot >> >> >> Hello, I have an iMac that I want to multi-boot w/ Yellowdawg. >> >> I was getting ready to install are realized that linux doesnt work with >> Mac OSs. >> >> I have a huge HFS -- UserSpace -- drive that I want to split to add the >> boot and / directories. >> >> How do I break up this partition to create /, /boot and UserSpace so >> that OSX will come up ok ?? >> >> Looks complicated -- confused here how the OSX mounting works. >> >> TIA, John >> >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > > CXN, Inc. Contact: john@thinman.com President, The Linux Society http://groups.yahoo.com/group/linux-society linux society distro -> http://www.thinman.com/eLSD/readme ThinMan is a registered trademark of CXN, Inc. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed Jan 29 01:53:43 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Ray Lacgalvs) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:53:43 +1000 Subject: New Install - need to break up UserSpace partition for /, /boot In-Reply-To: <5AFE672A-332B-11D7-AE84-003065F15622@nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: Have heard of a utility that can be bought, which will do a partition without destroying the data. Unfortunately don't remember the name - "partition magic" or something. -- regards, ray. > From: John van Vlaaderen > Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 20:45:33 -0500 > To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > Subject: Re: New Install - need to break up UserSpace partition for /, /boot > > > Thanks Ray.. but the DESTROYS ALL DATA is what I am hoping to avoid. > > It sucks that you cant just fix things, as in PC Linux. > > On Linux I would use partition editor gnu parted to resize etc. > > too bad :( > > > On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, at 08:27 PM, Ray Lacgalvs wrote: > >> These notes come from http://www.linux.org/ online classes. >> Hope they help, but be aware that without backing up your data it will >> be >> lost. >> >> Single Drive: Multi-Boot System with either BootX or yaboot >> >> You are now going to use Apple's Drive Setup application to format and >> partition your drive. Please note that this procedure completely >> reformats >> and DESTROYS ALL DATA on your drive. >> >> 1. Insert the Mac OS Software Install CD. >> 2. Restart your computer. >> 3. Hold the "C" key until you have booted from the Mac OS Software >> Install CD (you will see a repetition of CDs as the background image). >> 4. Double-click on the Install CD. Double-click on the Utilities >> folder. >> Double-click the utility Drive Setup.* >> 5. Select the drive you wish to partition. >> 6. Select Initialize. >> 7. Select Custom Setup. >> 8. Where the pull-down menu displays "Partitioning Scheme" select 2 >> or 3 >> partitions. If you are to install YDL + Mac OS 9, select 2. And if you >> are >> to install YDL + Mac OS 9 + Mac OS X, select 3 partitions. >> 9. Select the first (top) partition and where the pull-down menu >> displays >> "Mac OS Extended", select "unallocated". Select the second (bottom) >> partition and then "Mac OS Standard".** If you are to install Mac OS X, >> the >> 3rd and last partition should be formatted as "Mac OS Extended". >> 10. Select Ok. >> 11. Select Initialize. >> 12. Quit the Drive Setup utility. >> 13. Double click on Mac OS Installer. >> 14. Rename the 2nd partition to "Mac OS 9". If you are to install >> Mac OS >> X, the 3rd partition may be renamed "Mac OS X". >> 15. Install Mac OS 9 and/or Mac OS X according to the on-screen >> instructions. >> >> -- >> regards, ray. >> >> >>> From: John van Vlaaderen >>> Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >>> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 09:25:31 -0500 >>> To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >>> Subject: New Install - need to break up UserSpace partition for /, >>> /boot >>> >>> >>> Hello, I have an iMac that I want to multi-boot w/ Yellowdawg. >>> >>> I was getting ready to install are realized that linux doesnt work with >>> Mac OSs. >>> >>> I have a huge HFS -- UserSpace -- drive that I want to split to add the >>> boot and / directories. >>> >>> How do I break up this partition to create /, /boot and UserSpace so >>> that OSX will come up ok ?? >>> >>> Looks complicated -- confused here how the OSX mounting works. >>> >>> TIA, John >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> yellowdog-newbie mailing list >> yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >> http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie >> >> > CXN, Inc. Contact: john@thinman.com > President, The Linux Society > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/linux-society > linux society distro -> http://www.thinman.com/eLSD/readme > ThinMan is a registered trademark of CXN, Inc. > > > > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed Jan 29 02:03:56 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Ray Lacgalvs) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:03:56 +1000 Subject: Install Fails at package transfer on YDL 2.3 (iMac) In-Reply-To: <97.3344b01d.2b68743b@aol.com> Message-ID: > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3126686636_2042850_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable I also had the same error message on install - put mine down to not enough drive space for ydl partition. Gave it some more (2GB, only have 3GB) & went for the HOME/OFFICE package. --=20 regards, ray. From: PPCLinux@aol.com Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 19:03:07 EST To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Subject: Re: Install Fails at package transfer on YDL 2.3 (iMac) In a message dated 1/28/03 2:19:55 PM, commandertobe@netscape.net writes: I have tried to install YDL 2.3 several times.=A0 It boots fine and everything appears normal on the GUI install.=A0 However it goes to read the install media package database, then resolves dependencies and when it goes to package transfer it fails and says to correct this manually. I read on a list somewhere that the partitioning was done wrong.=A0 I went through a custom install using text base and verified this myself.=A0 If you go through the drive partitioning scheme it will erroneously map your partitions or this is how it seems.=A0 It would show my bootstrap as swap space each time.=A0 I would go back and check it and that was the mapping.=A0 Very frustrated with this since I hear Yellow dog is fairly stable distro.=A0 Thanks for any help.=A0 (Commandertobe@netscape.net) feel free to reply. I had the same problem and kept trying to install. I did hook up a 9gb ext. drive and try one more time and for no appearent reason, it worked. Go figure. Anyhow, I wish I could tell you exactly how I got it to work but perseverance and being mule stubborn in my continued attempts seems to be the only thing other than trying the final hard drive (tried several before that). Oh yeah, I switched to chocalate Klondike bars somewhere along the line. Good Luck! Rick=20 --MS_Mac_OE_3126686636_2042850_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: Install Fails at package transfer on YDL 2.3 (iMac) I also had the same error message on install - put mine down to not enough = drive space for ydl partition.
Gave it some more (2GB, only have 3GB) & went for the HOME/OFFICE package.
--

regards, ray.

From: PPCLinux@aol.com
Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 19:03:07 EST
To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
Subject: Re: Install Fails at package transfer on YDL 2.3 (iMac)

In a message dated 1/28/03 2:19:55 PM, commandertobe@netscape.net writes:

I have tried to install YDL 2.3 several times.=A0 It boots fine and
everything appears normal on the GUI install.=A0 However it goes to read
the install media package database, then resolves dependencies and when it goes to package transfer it fails and says to correct this manually.

I read on a list somewhere that the partitioning was done wrong.=A0 I went through a custom install using text base and verified this myself.=A0 If
you go through the drive partitioning scheme it will erroneously map
your partitions or this is how it seems.=A0 It would show my bootstrap as swap space each time.=A0 I would go back and check it and that was the
mapping.=A0 Very frustrated with this since I hear Yellow dog is fairly
stable distro.=A0 Thanks for any help.=A0 (Commandertobe@netscape.net) feel free to reply.

I had the same problem and kept trying to install. I did hook u= p a 9gb ext. drive and try one more time and for no appearent reason, it wor= ked. Go figure.

Anyhow, I wish I could tell you exactly how I got it to work but perseveran= ce and being mule stubborn in my continued attempts seems to be the only thi= ng other than trying the final hard drive (tried several before that). = ; Oh yeah, I switched to chocalate Klondike bars somewhere along the li= ne.
Good Luck!

Rick

--MS_Mac_OE_3126686636_2042850_MIME_Part-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed Jan 29 06:14:36 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (B. Charles Reynolds) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 21:14:36 -0900 Subject: New Install - need to break up UserSpace partition for /, /boot In-Reply-To: <5AFE672A-332B-11D7-AE84-003065F15622@nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, at 04:45 PM, John van Vlaaderen wrote: > > Thanks Ray.. but the DESTROYS ALL DATA is what I am hoping to avoid. > > It sucks that you cant just fix things, as in PC Linux. > > On Linux I would use partition editor gnu parted to resize etc. Err... Even then, if the partition is NTFS, it can't be resized. Only FAT12, FAT16 and FAT32. ___ Charles Hard to not notice the explosive growth in the Internet economy. Ever wondered how you could tap into it? Unicity Network provides a simple way, and it just might be what you're looking for. Find out at http://www.unicitynetwork.com/reynet/ E-mail: charlesreynolds@mac.com From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed Jan 29 14:15:21 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (John van Vlaaderen) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 09:15:21 -0500 Subject: New Install - need to break up UserSpace partition for /, /boot In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <19B555D1-3394-11D7-AE84-003065F15622@nyc.rr.com> Gnu Partition Editor -- an amazing PC tool -- I was hoping to try to port it to PPC. http://www.thinman.com/eLSD/eLSD-0.3/readme On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 01:14 AM, B. Charles Reynolds wrote: > > On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, at 04:45 PM, John van Vlaaderen wrote: > >> >> Thanks Ray.. but the DESTROYS ALL DATA is what I am hoping to avoid. >> >> It sucks that you cant just fix things, as in PC Linux. >> >> On Linux I would use partition editor gnu parted to resize etc. > > Err... Even then, if the partition is NTFS, it can't be resized. Only > FAT12, FAT16 and FAT32. > > ___ > Charles > > Hard to not notice the explosive growth in the Internet economy. Ever > wondered how you could tap into it? Unicity Network provides a simple > way, and it just might be what you're looking for. Find out at > http://www.unicitynetwork.com/reynet/ > E-mail: charlesreynolds@mac.com > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > > CXN, Inc. Contact: john@thinman.com President, The Linux Society http://groups.yahoo.com/group/linux-society linux society distro -> http://www.thinman.com/eLSD/readme ThinMan is a registered trademark of CXN, Inc. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu Jan 30 12:43:29 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Markus Deistler) Date: 30 Jan 2003 12:43:29 +0000 Subject: compiling ATI driver In-Reply-To: <235D9736.4C434FE8.6A01E670@netscape.net> References: <235D9736.4C434FE8.6A01E670@netscape.net> Message-ID: <1043930538.14026.53.camel@tullius.kriemhild.de> Hi, > >>From: Scott Alan Burch > ATI Mach64 GX card I have; it has a .c extension Does your /var/log/XFree86.0.log look like this (these lines starting with "WW" and "EE" are the interesting part): vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv (==) ATI(0): Chipset: "ati". (**) ATI(0): Depth 8, (--) framebuffer bpp 8 (--) ATI(0): ATI 88800GX-F graphics controller detected. (--) ATI(0): Chip type 4758 "GX", class 0, revision 0x03. (--) ATI(0): 16-Bit ISA bus interface detected; sparse I/O base is 0x0000. (--) ATI(0): ATI Mach64 adapter detected. (WW) ATI(0): Unknown RAMDAC type 0x9A detected. (==) ATI(0): RGB weight 666 (==) ATI(0): Default visual is PseudoColor (==) ATI(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) (II) ATI(0): Using Mach64 accelerator CRTC. (EE) ATI(0): Linear aperture not available. (II) UnloadModule: "ati" (II) UnloadModule: "atimisc" (II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/atimisc_drv.o (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. Fatal server error: no screens found ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I got that disappointing result with XF.4.2.0 which is part of YDL2.3 and with XF 4.2.99.1 I built from source. The XF4.2.99-specfile for building the binary-rpm has an "Useolddriver"-option, so I built X again with the old drivers, to no result, the older ati-driver also chokes on the unknown RAMDAC. So I still use accelerated Xpmac with the --mach64 option. After I installed 4.2.99 Xpmac got slightly faster again (Xpmac-336 runs better within the "XF4.x-environment" than in its "original" "XF3.3.6-environment"). I added a list of drivers below. The ati- and atimisc-driver are supposed to support older ATI-cards (mach64 or "ATI 88800GX"-based-stuff), ATI Rage 128 and Radeon must use their own drivers (r128_drv.o and radeon_drv.o). Even if the atidriver doesn't choke on the card's RAMDAC, it will just support 8bit-video. A 'rpm -qpil XFree86-drivers-4.2.99.1-67.6a.ppc.rpm' gives: Name : XFree86-drivers Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 4.2.99.1 Vendor: (none) Release : 67.6a Build Date: Don 30 Jan 2003 09:27:25 UTC Install date: Don 30 Jan 2003 09:47:34 UTC Build Host: tullius Group : User Interface/X Hardware Support Source RPM: XFree86-4.2.99.1-67.6a.src.rpm Size : 12436046 License: XFree86 Signature : (none) URL : http://www.xfree86.org Summary : display drivers for XFree86 Description : This package has all display drivers to XFree86 4.2.99.1, /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/gamma_dri.so /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/mga_dri.so /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/r128_dri.so /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/radeon_dri.so /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/tdfx_dri.so /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/ati_drv.o /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/atimisc_drv.o /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/chips_drv.o /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/fbdev_drv.o /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/glint_drv.o /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/imstt_drv.o /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/linux /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/linux/v4l_drv.o /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/mga_drv.o /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/nv_drv.o /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/r128_drv.o /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.o /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/s3virge_drv.o /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/savage_drv.o /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/sis_drv.o /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/tdfx_drv.o /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/trident_drv.o /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/vga_drv.o Best Regards, Markus From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu Jan 30 20:52:25 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Gregory Allen-Anderson) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 15:52:25 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sound Message-ID: <20030130205225.32D2639F4@xmxpita.myway.com> Ok, I installed YDL 2.3 on my IMAC 500 mz slot loading machine. I used default everything, and everthing seems to have gone beautifully except for one thing (So far anyway). Sound isn't working. I get the following error message. device /dev/dsp can't be opened I am a total newbie here. What do I do to fix this? _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Introducing My Way - http://www.myway.com From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu Jan 30 22:34:27 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Derick Centeno) Date: 30 Jan 2003 22:34:27 +0000 Subject: mounting floppies Message-ID: <1043966069.1499.46.camel@arakus.localdomain> I'm not sure this is the right question for this area but let's see. I cannot mount my floppies within YDL 2.3!! I can modify the fstab file with the appropriate commands, but not mtab!! Somehow at every reboot the mtab is rewritten by the kernel to its original form obliterating my changes, and when it sees the changes in the fstab file complains about that line number, where the change was made, is "bad". That comment regarding fstab shows up when Dayton restarts. This is what I write in fstab: /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy noauto,user rw 0 0 Also in /mnt I created a new directory called floppy which didn't exist prior to that time. A further clarification I know how to use vi, and vim well. I've not forgotten how to use its various features. Another question: How can I use apt-get to download stuff from the CD's and have it look for whatever dependencies a particular package may need, etc. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri Jan 31 21:04:46 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Scott Alan Burch) Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 15:04:46 -0600 Subject: configuring Rage 128 on 9500 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030131145414.00a2b020@mail.mindspring.com> I am trying to configure another ATI card, after giving up on a Mach 64GX with anything other than fbdev at 640x480. I have a 9500 with a fresh install of YDL 2.3 and 320 MB RAM. The video card is ATI Rage 128 on PCI with 16 MB VRAM. I have chosen r128 as the driver; I'm trying to launch at 1024x768 @ 75. I have identified the device as "ATI r128". At startx, all I am getting is a black screen. It is not even getting back to the console to tell me where it is screwing up. A look at the var log indicates it stops running somewhere in the searching of the PCI bus. Any help? thanks ## scott From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri Jan 31 23:39:53 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Lowell Premer) Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 17:39:53 -0600 Subject: mounting floppies References: <1043966069.1499.46.camel@arakus.localdomain> Message-ID: <3E3B0949.1070801@kc.rr.com> Do you do this to mount? mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy You can substitute various filesystem types where "msdos" is, hfs is supported but I'm not sure about hfs+, prolly not... Derick Centeno wrote: >I'm not sure this is the right question for this area but let's see. I >cannot mount my floppies within YDL 2.3!! I can modify the fstab file >with the appropriate commands, but not mtab!! Somehow at every reboot >the mtab is rewritten by the kernel to its original form obliterating my >changes, and when it sees the changes in the fstab file complains about >that line number, where the change was made, is "bad". That comment >regarding fstab shows up when Dayton restarts. > >This is what I write in fstab: >/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy noauto,user rw 0 0 > >Also in /mnt I created a new directory called floppy which didn't exist >prior to that time. > >A further clarification I know how to use vi, and vim well. I've not >forgotten how to use its various features. > >Another question: How can I use apt-get to download stuff from the CD's >and have it look for whatever dependencies a particular package may >need, etc. > >_______________________________________________ >yellowdog-newbie mailing list >yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie >