From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 1 01:12:56 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 20:12:56 EDT Subject: A really stupid question. Message-ID: <133.1f15fcd7.2be1c088@aol.com> --part1_133.1f15fcd7.2be1c088_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit on the command line, type: shutdown -h now --part1_133.1f15fcd7.2be1c088_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable on the command line, type:

shutdown -h now --part1_133.1f15fcd7.2be1c088_boundary-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 1 04:57:02 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (John kish) Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 05:57:02 +0200 Subject: PARTNERSHIP Message-ID: <20030501035608.52FA21FAEB@newhope.terraplex.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format --8752afcd-9f63-4c4a-9b55-b71f589d0ac4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ATTN: THE PRESIDENT. SOLICITING FOR BUSINESS VENTURE AND PARTNERSHIP. My name is Mr.John Kish,chairman of contract award and monitoring committee = of ministry of urban and rural development, my duty as empowered by the = Mauritius Government is to provide the basic amenities, social recreational = activities in urban and rural areas, this programs include assistance to = deprived local communities and to co-ordinate project and development at the = national levels, further more from this projects we have been able to secure = some reasonable amount of US.$28.8(twenty eight million and eight hundred = thousand us dollars)as commission from various contractors resulting from = over invoicing, hence all the necessary approvals has been completed. This approved funds is now packaged and dispatched through a security company = for onward delivery to it's destination here in Europe. This funds were first = deposited into a vault security company before we arranged for it's movement = to Europe through diplomatic channel using decoy purporting that the funds = belongs to a foreign expert rate/company as we are Government officials we = are not allowed to operate or open a foreign bank account hence you need to = stand as the beneficiary and claim this funds on our behalf from the security = company. Presently I'm now in Europe to search for a reliable person/company with high = integrity/dignity one with conscience who will claim this funds on our behalf = as the beneficiary, and we have agreed to offer you 25% of the total sum as = commission for your assistance/effort.And 5% will be used to settle every = expenses we might incur on the process, we will use our 70% to invest under = your recommendations and guide and go into joint venture business with you. = I would greatly appreciate your assistance, also you can call me on my = private tel. number for more details on how we go about this on 0031 = 630556247 as I look forward to hear from you be informed that confidentiality = is the nature of this business because we would not be happy to loose our = jobs. Best regards, Mr.John Kish. --------------------------------------------------------- Demo Version Sent. ---------------------------------------------------------- --8752afcd-9f63-4c4a-9b55-b71f589d0ac4-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 1 05:29:31 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (ro b) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 22:29:31 -0600 Subject: PARTNERSHIP In-Reply-To: <20030501035608.52FA21FAEB@newhope.terraplex.com> References: <20030501035608.52FA21FAEB@newhope.terraplex.com> Message-ID: On Wednesday 30 April 2003 21:57, you wrote: > ATTN: THE PRESIDENT. > > SOLICITING FOR BUSINESS VENTURE AND PARTNERSHIP. > > My name is Mr.John Kish,chairman of contract award and monitoring committee > of ministry of urban and rural development, my duty as empowered by the > Mauritius Government is to provide the basic amenities, social recreational > activities in urban and rural areas, this programs include assistance to > deprived local communities and to co-ordinate project and development at > the national levels, further more from this projects we have been able to > secure some reasonable amount of US.$28.8(twenty eight million and eight > hundred thousand us dollars)as commission from various contractors > resulting from over invoicing, hence all the necessary approvals has been > completed. > > This approved funds is now packaged and dispatched through a security > company for onward delivery to it's destination here in Europe. This funds > were first deposited into a vault security company before we arranged for > it's movement to Europe through diplomatic channel using decoy purporting > that the funds belongs to a foreign expert rate/company as we are > Government officials we are not allowed to operate or open a foreign bank > account hence you need to stand as the beneficiary and claim this funds on > our behalf from the security company. > > Presently I'm now in Europe to search for a reliable person/company with > high integrity/dignity one with conscience who will claim this funds on our > behalf as the beneficiary, and we have agreed to offer you 25% of the total > sum as commission for your assistance/effort.And 5% will be used to settle > every expenses we might incur on the process, we will use our 70% to invest > under your recommendations and guide and go into joint venture business > with you. > > > I would greatly appreciate your assistance, also you can call me on my > private tel. number for more details on how we go about this on 0031 > 630556247 as I look forward to hear from you be informed that > confidentiality is the nature of this business because we would not be > happy to loose our jobs. > > Best regards, > > Mr.John Kish. > > --------------------------------------------------------- > Demo Version Sent. > ---------------------------------------------------------- IS there anyway to stop this kind of madness. This is twice on the list of stuff not involving mac YDL distro or even linux on a powerpc From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 1 06:19:49 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Dan Burcaw) Date: 30 Apr 2003 23:19:49 -0600 Subject: [Fwd: Re: can I get my Apple_partition_map partition back?] Message-ID: <1051766389.1302.45.camel@skyfox.terraplex.com> --=-iRInajHNwJtGahJbEwHu Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is in reference to a problem brought up on yellowdog-general. --=-iRInajHNwJtGahJbEwHu Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: Forwarded message - Re: can I get my Apple_partition_map partition back? Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: Delivered-To: dburcaw@terraplex.com Received: from newhope.terraplex.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by newhope.terraplex.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F7131FAF1; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 22:53:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: ydl_gen_post@terraplex.com Received: from skyfox.terraplex.com (dnvrapanas09poolc88.dnvr.uswest.net [65.100.150.215]) by newhope.terraplex.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E890A1FAEE for ; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 22:52:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from skyfox.terraplex.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by skyfox.terraplex.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h414pv7F011159; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 22:51:58 -0600 Received: (from dburcaw@localhost) by skyfox.terraplex.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h414pval011157; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 22:51:57 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: skyfox.terraplex.com: dburcaw set sender to dburcaw@terrasoftsolutions.com using -f Subject: Re: can I get my Apple_partition_map partition back? From: Dan Burcaw To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com In-Reply-To: <1051750886.1301.8.camel@skyfox.terraplex.com> References: <1051750886.1301.8.camel@skyfox.terraplex.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Message-Id: <1051764716.1302.36.camel@skyfox.terraplex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 (1.2.2-5a) Sender: yellowdog-general-admin@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Errors-To: yellowdog-general-admin@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com X-BeenThere: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Yellow Dog Linux General Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: 30 Apr 2003 22:51:57 -0600 Date: 30 Apr 2003 22:51:57 -0600 Status: I've updated 'pdisk' to be able to easily fix the Apple_partition_map issue. Again, this issue seems to only occur on machines with two hard disks. Mac OS 9 or OS X may not boot because of this problem. The gist is that the first partition of your (likely second hard drive) has the 'boot' flag toggled. As a result, it is labled with the partition type "Apple_Bootstrap" instead of "Apple_partition_map". This is due to a big in Anaconda, the Yellow Dog installer and the Parted partition program that it uses. It will be fixed in future ISO revisions of Yellow Dog Linux 3.0, and future releases. Follow the simple instructions below to fix the problem. You will need to know what Linux device the drive affected is. E.g. /dev/hdb (Note: the following instructions assume you are logged in as super-user.) 1) Type: /sbin/pdisk -l (e.g. /dev/hdb) If pdisk reports partition #1 having a type of "Apple_Bootstrap", please proceed to step two. Otherwise, verify that you have provided the correct hard drive device and try step one again. 2) Download the pdisk update at: http://stage.terraplex.com/~dburcaw/pdisk-0.8-3a.ppc.rpm I've also pushed this update to the YDL 3.0 updates directory so it should be available there soon (and via apt & yum.. although apt may still be giving folks a problem.. fixes pending). 3) Install the pdisk update by typing:: rpm -Uvh pdisk-0.8-3a.ppc.rpm 4) Type: /sbin/pdisk 5) At the pdisk prompt type 'p'. Example output: Command (? for help): Partition map (with 512 byte blocks) on '/dev/hdb' #: type name length base ( size ) 1: Apple_Bootstrap untitled 63 @ 1 2: Apple_UNIX_SVR4 unitiled 11076123 @ 64 ( 5.3G) Device block size=512, Number of Blocks=11076183 (5.3G) DeviceType=0x0, DeviceID=0x0 Again, you should see that partition '1' has the incorrect "Apple_bootstrap" type. 6) To fix this issue, type 't' at the pdisk prompt. This option does NOT touch your partition data. It merely relabels the partition type. Command (? help): t 7) You will be prompted to enter a partition number, type '1'. Partition number: 1 8) You will be prompted to enter the new partition type, be sure to type "Apple_partition_map" exactly as shown, without quotes. New partition type: Apple_partition_map 9) Back at the pdisk prompt, type 'p', to make sure partition '1' is now properly labeled "Apple_partition_map" with that exact case and spelling. 10) Save your changes with the 'w' option. Command (? help): w Writing the map destroys what was there before. Is that okay? [n/y]:y pdisk: Re-read of partition table failed (Device or resource busy) Reboot your system to ensure the partition table i updated. 11) Quit pdisk to finish. Command (? for help): q [root@localhost root]# At this point you should be all good to go. The 'parted' utility, which broke like Mac OS X, due to this bug, should now work if you type: /sbin/parted print Also, Mac OS X should now boot as expected. Regards, Dan _______________________________________________ yellowdog-general mailing list yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general --=-iRInajHNwJtGahJbEwHu-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 1 11:20:37 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com) Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 10:20:37 GMT Subject: Booting from YDL 3.0 CD on Apus 2000 Message-ID: <20030501102037.A678AD7A8F@zebes.dreamhost.com> Hi, I'm not sure if i am subscribed to this list or not (i didn't get a reply to my confirmation email), so can you please CC to my email address if you reply. Thanks. I was wondering if anyone could help me... I have an old Apus 2000 Mac i got cheap, and it has neither a MacOS CD nor MacOS installed on the HDD. I thought i would stick YDL on it... However, when i put the CD in and turn the machine on, it doesn't seem to want to boot from the CD. I burned it from the ISO on FTP, and have checked that the CD is okay by mounting it on my x86 box. What happens: Black and white 1 pixel chequered screen comes up, with a smiling Mac picture in the centre... a few seconds later, a floppy disc with a flashing question mark appears in the center. I think this machine *can* boot from CD, as i put a MacOS 9.2 CD in it once, and though that OS doesn't seem to be compatible with this machine, it did get as far as booting the CD and displaying a message which told me as such. So, is there any way to install YDL on this machine... maybe a YDL boot floppy? I've been looking on Google for a while with this... the closest i can find is something that requires using the Tasty Morsels CD - but if this YDL CD wont boot, i am sceptical that that one will too. Thanks for any help, - Daniel --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 1 12:06:05 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Dan Burcaw) Date: 01 May 2003 05:06:05 -0600 Subject: Booting from YDL 3.0 CD on Apus 2000 In-Reply-To: <20030501102037.A678AD7A8F@zebes.dreamhost.com> References: <20030501102037.A678AD7A8F@zebes.dreamhost.com> Message-ID: <1051787165.1302.47.camel@skyfox.terraplex.com> OldWorld machines such as that can't CD boot. You need a small Mac OS partition with the BootX app (on the YDL 3 CD) in order to install and use Linux. On Thu, 2003-05-01 at 04:20, ydl@beneath.plus.com wrote: > Hi, > > I'm not sure if i am subscribed to this list or not (i didn't get a reply > to my confirmation email), so can you please CC to my email address if you > reply. Thanks. > > I was wondering if anyone could help me... > > I have an old Apus 2000 Mac i got cheap, and it has neither a MacOS CD nor > MacOS installed on the HDD. I thought i would stick YDL on it... > However, when i put the CD in and turn the machine on, it doesn't seem to > want to boot from the CD. I burned it from the ISO on FTP, and have > checked that the CD is okay by mounting it on my x86 box. > What happens: > Black and white 1 pixel chequered screen comes up, with a smiling Mac > picture in the centre... a few seconds later, a floppy disc with a > flashing question mark appears in the center. > I think this machine *can* boot from CD, as i put a MacOS 9.2 CD in it > once, and though that OS doesn't seem to be compatible with this machine, > it did get as far as booting the CD and displaying a message which told me > as such. > > So, is there any way to install YDL on this machine... maybe a YDL boot > floppy? I've been looking on Google for a while with this... the closest i > can find is something that requires using the Tasty Morsels CD - but if > this YDL CD wont boot, i am sceptical that that one will too. > > Thanks for any help, From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 1 13:00:45 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Suzanne Payne) Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 13:00:45 +0100 Subject: Booting from YDL 3.0 CD on Apus 2000 In-Reply-To: <20030501102037.A678AD7A8F@zebes.dreamhost.com> References: <20030501102037.A678AD7A8F@zebes.dreamhost.com> Message-ID: <5039078.1051794045@beefcake.alcina.org> --On Thursday, May 1, 2003 10:20 am +0000 ydl@beneath.plus.com wrote: > I have an old Apus 2000 Mac i got cheap, and it has neither a MacOS CD > nor MacOS installed on the HDD. I thought i would stick YDL on it... > However, when i put the CD in and turn the machine on, it doesn't seem to > want to boot from the CD. I burned it from the ISO on FTP, and have > checked that the CD is okay by mounting it on my x86 box. It's not a new world mac so it won't boot from the YDL disc, see the information on BootX. > What happens: > Black and white 1 pixel chequered screen comes up, with a smiling Mac > picture in the centre... a few seconds later, a floppy disc with a > flashing question mark appears in the center. > I think this machine *can* boot from CD, as i put a MacOS 9.2 CD in it > once, and though that OS doesn't seem to be compatible with this machine, > it did get as far as booting the CD and displaying a message which told > me as such. They do boot from a mac CD but it has to be one of the special CDs that came with it (for example it uses FWB toolkit not the apple cd drivers). Often you have to cmd-option-shift-backspace to boot these machines off the CD rather than the 'c' boot option. The last supported OS CD I have for these machines is 8.0. > So, is there any way to install YDL on this machine... maybe a YDL boot > floppy? I've been looking on Google for a while with this... the closest > i can find is something that requires using the Tasty Morsels CD - but > if this YDL CD wont boot, i am sceptical that that one will too. The YDL site says these machines aren't officially supported but should work. You'd need to follow the instructions for BootX not yaboot. ie. install a valid MacOS on a small partition and then install YDL on another partition using BootX on the MacOs partition. I've not tried it myself but now you mention it I have a load of these machines just hanging around doing nothing... Suzanne From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 1 13:23:37 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com) Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 12:23:37 GMT Subject: Booting from YDL 3.0 CD on Apus 2000 Message-ID: <20030501122337.A651BD7A90@zebes.dreamhost.com> Hi, > OldWorld machines such as that can't CD boot. You need a small Mac OS > partition with the BootX app (on the YDL 3 CD) in order to install and > use Linux. How do i create the partition and put BootX on it? I found a tutorial for putting the HDD in an x86 box and using a parted floppy to fiddle about with it... but that was using yaboot, and the tutorial still seemed to need to boot from CD. Is there any way i can stick the Macs HDD in my Linux box, create the neccesary partitions, boot from this and then boot the YDL install CD? A link to a guide or instructions would be great :) Thanks, - Daniel --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 1 13:38:06 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Suzanne Payne) Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 13:38:06 +0100 Subject: Booting from YDL 3.0 CD on Apus 2000 In-Reply-To: <20030501122337.A651BD7A90@zebes.dreamhost.com> References: <20030501122337.A651BD7A90@zebes.dreamhost.com> Message-ID: <5173516.1051796286@beefcake.alcina.org> --On Thursday, May 1, 2003 12:23 pm +0000 ydl@beneath.plus.com wrote: > How do i create the partition and put BootX on it? > I found a tutorial for putting the HDD in an x86 box and using a parted > floppy to fiddle about with it... but that was using yaboot, and the > tutorial still seemed to need to boot from CD. You need to boot off a UMAX Apus CD, and use the FWB Toolkit on the CD to partition the drive. > Is there any way i can stick the Macs HDD in my Linux box, create the > neccesary partitions, boot from this and then boot the YDL install CD? A > link to a guide or instructions would be great :) I doubt it would work as only the UMAX Apus CDs have the necessary drivers to work with the hardware in order to boot into MacOs and thence via BootX into YDL.8 You need a copy of an Apus CD. The machine won't boot straight into YDL, it must boot into MacOs first. Suzanne From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 1 13:49:44 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com) Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 12:49:44 GMT Subject: Booting from YDL 3.0 CD on Apus 2000 Message-ID: <20030501124944.17F43D7A8F@zebes.dreamhost.com> > I doubt it would work as only the UMAX Apus CDs have the necessary drivers > to work with the hardware in order to boot into MacOs and thence via BootX > into YDL.8 You need a copy of an Apus CD. The machine won't boot straight > into YDL, it must boot into MacOs first. I figured it was just a normal 3.5'' HDD... and so if i can get the right partitioning and formatting tools for an x86 OS, i could stick it in there and set up the hard drive so it'd have BootX on it when i booted the mac. I guess not. So, where can i get an UMAX CD? Is there an ISO somewhere? I'd actually love to put MacOS on this thing, but with the absence of a CD i wanted to put something free and legal on there. Thanks, - Daniel --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 1 17:02:51 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Dave Muth) Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 09:02:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Locking Out Accounts After 3 Bad Password Logon Attempts Message-ID: <20030501160251.11085.qmail@web13705.mail.yahoo.com> I need to be able to lock out user accounts after someone has tried three times in a row and failed to provide the proper password. Does anyone know how to do this? -- Dave Muth muthNOdave1@SPAMyahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 1 18:32:29 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Dan A. Milisic) Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 13:32:29 -0400 Subject: Booting from YDL 3.0 CD on Apus 2000 In-Reply-To: <20030501124944.17F43D7A8F@zebes.dreamhost.com> Message-ID: <000601c31007$a423c910$0200a8c0@zerok7> README File for the free MacOS System 7.5.3 Download http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/= Eng lish-North_American/Macintosh/System/Older_System/System_7.5_Version_7.5.= 3/S ystem_7.5.3_Info.txt ...and the link to the 19 FLOPPY DISK IMAGES you'll need to make ;) http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/= Eng lish-North_American/Macintosh/System/Older_System/System_7.5_Version_7.5.= 3/ HTH, D. -----Original Message----- From: yellowdog-newbie-admin@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com [mailto:yellowdog-newbie-admin@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com] On Behalf = Of ydl@beneath.plus.com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 8:50 AM To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Subject: Re: Booting from YDL 3.0 CD on Apus 2000 > I doubt it would work as only the UMAX Apus CDs have the necessary=20 drivers=20 > to work with the hardware in order to boot into MacOs and thence via=20 BootX=20 > into YDL.8 You need a copy of an Apus CD. The machine won't boot=20 straight=20 > into YDL, it must boot into MacOs first. I figured it was just a normal 3.5'' HDD... and so if i can get the = right=20 partitioning and formatting tools for an x86 OS, i could stick it in = there=20 and set up the hard drive so it'd have BootX on it when i booted the = mac. I guess not. So, where can i get an UMAX CD? Is there an ISO somewhere? I'd actually love to put MacOS on this thing, but with the absence of a = CD=20 i wanted to put something free and legal on there. Thanks, - Daniel --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ _______________________________________________ yellowdog-newbie mailing list yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 1 19:19:59 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Chris Ruzin) Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 13:19:59 -0500 Subject: YDL 3 Install Error Message-ID: I just received YDL 3 in the mail today. I=B9m wanting to install it on my Pismo Powerbook. I boot up from Disk 1, get Anaconda running and when I reach the part about partitioning, I ALWAYS get an unhandled exception error. No matter which of the three options I choose (auto, Disk Druid or pdisk) I get the same error. Below is the error: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/anaconda/gui.py", line 634, in nextClicked self.dispatch.gotoNext() File "/usr/lib/anaconda/dispatch.py", line 150, in gotoNext self.moveStep() File "/usr/lib/anaconda/dispatch.py", line 215, in gotoNext rc =3D apply(func, self.bindArgs(args)) File "/usr/lib/anaconda/partitioning.py", line 57, in partitionObjectsInitialize partitions.setFromDisk(diskset) File "/usr/lib/anaconda/partitions.py", line 107, in setFromDisk ptype =3D partedUtils.get_partition_file_system_type(part) File "/usr/lib/anaconda/partedUtils.py", line 161, in get_partition_file_system_type ptype =3D=20 fsset.fileSystemTypeGet(map_foreign_to_fsname(part.mac_native_type)) File "/usr/lib/anaconda/fsset.py", line 61, in fileSystemTypeGet return fileSystemTypes[key] KeyError: Foreign I have one 10 GB IDE hard drive with two 5 GB partitions made by Disk Setup= . One is used by OS X, the other is free space. I'm wanting the YDL installe= r to create the bootstrap, swap and ext3 partitions in the free space. This must be a bug with Anaconda, and I have already submitted it to the YD= L bug database. Has anyone else come across this error? Has anyone figured out a workaround? =20 I've already had a really bad experience with Mandrake Linux 9.1 PPC. I'd REALLY like to install YDL, but this is leaving a bad taste in my mouth as well. Chris ------------------- Chris Ruzin Mantis Design (www.mantis-design.com) 178 Melrose Rd. Lockesburg AR. 71846 USA Phone: 870-289-6542 From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 1 20:37:50 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Angela Kahealani) Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 09:37:50 -1000 Subject: YDL 3 Install Error References: Message-ID: <3EB17787.9CD396BA@kahealani.com> Installing YDL 3 on my PowerMac G3 Beige MiniTower... I boot up from Disk 1, get Anaconda running, and when I reach the part about partitioning, I get an unhandled exception error, no matter which of the two options I choose (Disk Druid or pdisk) I get the same error that Chris Ruzin posted. > Has anyone else come across this error? Me... > Has anyone figured out a workaround? Chris Ruzin I completely reformatted / repartitioned my drives with Mac OS 9's Drive SetUp utility, and now I'm in Disk Druid. JUST got there NOW... -- Copyright 2003 Angela Kahealani. All rights reserved without prejudice; UCC1-207. All information and transactions are private between the parties and are non negotiable. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 1 21:12:38 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Sverre =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F8rensen?=) Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 22:12:38 +0200 Subject: New user with email alias In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Does anyone know of a good and easy tool to add a user and give that user an emailalias at the same time? Now I add the user with "userconf" and then I add an alias in "/etc/alias" afterwards. Sverre :) -- _____________________________________________________________ Sverre S=F8rensen Systemconsultant/ACSE HelioGruppen Norge AS, Tevlingveien 15, 1081 OSLO Phone:+47 2317 1430 Direct:+47 2317 1474 Fax:+1 4198213014 Cellular:+47 9288 3174 e-mail: sverre@mac.com http://www.versionmaster.com http://www.norhost.net http://myip.norhost.net Mac OS X. Because making Unix user-friendly is easier than debugging Window= s. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 1 22:24:24 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Chris Ruzin) Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 16:24:24 -0500 Subject: YDL 3 Install Error Message-ID: OK... I figured out what the problem was. I'm an idiot. The solution was to make sure that the other half of my hard drive was actually free space, NOT UFS, which is what it was. I had a hunch and booted with the OS X install CD and ran Disk Utility. It showed the second half as UFS, not free space. So I repartitioned the hard drive and made the second half free space. Now YDL works fine. I'm installing it right now. So... The moral of the story is to make sure you know what the heck you're talking about before making other people go scrambling trying to find a solution for a problem you never had. Thanks. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 2 00:09:09 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Bill Laundrie) Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 18:09:09 -0500 Subject: Error installing YDL 3.0 (/mnt/source/.discinfo) Message-ID: <001701c31036$ac3ec8a0$1201a8c0@teranet> Hello, I just downloaded YDL 3.0, and I'm trying to install it on a B&W G3 with a completely blank 10 GB hard drive. I boot with CD 1, go through the install steps, and it starts installing the packages. Shortly after it asks for CD 3, I get the following errors: Error The file /mnt/sysimage/var/tmp/kdeartwork-3.1-1.ppc.rpm cannot be opened. This is due to a missing file, a bad package, or bad media. Press to try again. Exception Occurred File "/usr/lib/anaconda/image.py", line 119 in getFilename f=open("/mnt/source/.discinfo") IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: "/mnt/source/.discinfo" I've tried re-burning the CDs, even went as far as downloading fresh copies, and I still get the same error (about 10 times in a row now, always at the same point). Any suggestions? Thank you! From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 2 00:11:13 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Francis Maier) Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 17:11:13 -0600 Subject: Installation on SCSI Message-ID: <0FB2DF78E0BA44428DB52BFA47E40B43D82262@stafford> Why do the docs recommend installing YDL 3 on the master hard drive? =20 I have OS 10.2.5 and OS 9.2.2 on my main hard drive and would like to install Linux on my SCSI external harddrive. Why is that bad? From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 2 01:36:25 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Bill Laundrie) Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 19:36:25 -0500 Subject: Error installing YDL 3.0 (/mnt/source/.discinfo) UPDATE Message-ID: <000701c31042$dd25bdf0$1201a8c0@teranet> I just noticed something when I was checking the ISO files in Nero Burning ROM (yes, evil me used a WinXP machine to burn my YDL discs)... It seems to think that CD 3 is a standard Joliet-format disc, while CDs 1 and 2 are Hybrid/HFS... BOTH copies of the CD 3 ISO that I downloaded indicate this. Could the ISO on the FTP sites (ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/yellowdog/ to be specific) be improperly formatted? I hope someone catches this and fixes it before tons of people try the same thing! Anyway, I'm going to try to burn the CD3 ISO with DiskCopy in OSX and see if it fares any better... I'll write back and let everyone know. Thanks! From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 2 04:29:34 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Dan Burcaw) Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 21:29:34 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Error installing YDL 3.0 (/mnt/source/.discinfo) UPDATE In-Reply-To: <000701c31042$dd25bdf0$1201a8c0@teranet> Message-ID: What's the problem here. REally, only CD 1 needs to be HFS since its the only bootable CD... > I just noticed something when I was checking the ISO files in Nero Burning > ROM (yes, evil me used a WinXP machine to burn my YDL discs)... > > It seems to think that CD 3 is a standard Joliet-format disc, while CDs 1 > and 2 are Hybrid/HFS... > > BOTH copies of the CD 3 ISO that I downloaded indicate this. Could the ISO > on the FTP sites > (ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/yellowdog/ to be specific) > be improperly formatted? > > I hope someone catches this and fixes it before tons of people try the same > thing! Anyway, I'm going to try to burn the CD3 ISO with DiskCopy in OSX > and see if it fares any better... I'll write back and let everyone know. > > Thanks! > > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 2 05:11:31 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Bill Laundrie) Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 23:11:31 -0500 Subject: Error installing YDL 3.0 (/mnt/source/.discinfo) UPDATE Message-ID: <000901c31060$e9dc2750$1201a8c0@teranet> Dan, I guess it makes sense that only the CD used for booting would need to be HFS. I'm just wondering if anyone else has had the same problem with the ISO files just put on the FTP servers. It almost seems like a problem with the installer scripts or something. I guess time will tell if others have the same issue. The only reason I thought it might be a problem is because OS 9 will show the file .diskinfo as _DISKINFO. instead, and I thought perhaps that might be due to the disc being in Joliet format. After doing a little experimenting, it turns out that I was barking up the wrong tree. If anyone has any ideas on what is causing the error while installing, I'd appreciate any info. Thanks again! Dan Burcaw wrote: What's the problem here. REally, only CD 1 needs to be HFS since its the only bootable CD... > I just noticed something when I was checking the ISO files in Nero Burning > ROM (yes, evil me used a WinXP machine to burn my YDL discs)... > > It seems to think that CD 3 is a standard Joliet-format disc, while CDs 1 > and 2 are Hybrid/HFS... > > BOTH copies of the CD 3 ISO that I downloaded indicate this. Could the ISO > on the FTP sites > (ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/yellowdog/ to be specific) > be improperly formatted? > > I hope someone catches this and fixes it before tons of people try the same > thing! Anyway, I'm going to try to burn the CD3 ISO with DiskCopy in OSX > and see if it fares any better... I'll write back and let everyone know. > > Thanks! From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 3 03:42:50 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Reid Beels) Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 19:42:50 -0700 Subject: Kernel panic after IDE init when booting 3.0 CD Message-ID: I'm attempting to install YDL 3.0 on a 450 G4 and when I attempt to boot the system from the CD I receive a kernel panic after the IDE initialization. This same thing has happened before using a 2.3 CD and I had hoped that 3.0 would resolve the issue. The messages near the panic are as follows: Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.31 ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx ide0: Foung Apple KeyLargo ATA-4 controller, bus ID 2 ide1: Foung Apple KeyLargo ATA-3 controller, bus ID 0 ide2: Foung Apple KeyLargo ATA-4 controller, bus ID 1 Probing IDE interface ide0... hda: IBM-DPTA-371020, ATA DISK drive hdb: MAXTOR 4K040H2, ATA DISK drive Probing IDE interface ide1... hdc: MATSHITADVD-ROM SR-8585, ATAPT CD/DVD-ROM drive Probing IDE interface ide2... ide0 at 0xf1368000-0xf1368007,0xf1368160 on irq 19 ide1 at 0xf136c000-0xf136c007,0xf136c160 on irq 20 hda: Enable Ultra DMA 4 blk: que c02d7778, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0xffffffff) Oops: Exception in kernel mode, sig: 4 After this there come the barrage of hex values and such that tend to accompany kernel panics. If anyone would find these useful in diagnosing this problem, let me know and i can post them. Thank you, Reid Beels From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 3 05:55:34 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Ben Schmidt) Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 00:55:34 -0400 Subject: resolution and Gaim Message-ID: <7979FBB1-7D23-11D7-937B-000393D737C0@cornell.edu> I just successfully installed YDL 3 on my MDD (with a geforce 4 ti if anyone is wondering if it'll run with it) and i have a few questions: 1. My screen picture for some reason is shifted down and too the left? does anyone know what would be cuasing this and if i can fix it? 2. when trying to change display resolution's if i got from say 1024*768 to 800*600 i do the logout/login process and the res switches ok. but if i then go into the display manager, in an attempt to raise the resolution back upto 1024, the options only go up to 800*600 (ie 1024 has dissapeared from the list). Ideally i'd like to be at 1280*1024x75hz so again if anyone knows what is cuasing this and how to fix it i would be very appreciative 3. when trying to connect to the AIM servers using Gaim, i input my username/password and then click connect (or whatever the button says) and the program simply hangs up, the window goes gray and the only way i know how to get it to go away is to find the PID using "top" and then manually killing it (this btw is the extent of my command line prowess) so again any help with this would be appreciated as i would like to be able to connect to AIM when in YDL thanks for anyhelp you guys can provide ben schmidt From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 3 06:04:48 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Ben Schmidt) Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 01:04:48 -0400 Subject: more questions from a newbie Message-ID: ok, a few more questions what can i use to play divx and real media files (and do these players support Windows Media Audio 2) will YDL 3 run programs for X86 versions of linux ? thanks again ben schmidt From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 3 06:42:38 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Angela Kahealani) Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 19:42:38 -1000 Subject: No Boot fresh YDL3 install In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200305021942.38951.angela@kahealani.com> I'm attempting to install YDL 3.0 on a Beige G3 MiniTower 266... can't boot the system after the full install from the Geek-CD set... /sbin/modprobe -s -k block-major-8 errno=2 no mount on 08:1b cannot open /dev/sdb11 UW SCSI disk on 53c88 controller card. Are there known issues in this configuration? -- Copyright 2003 Angela Kahealani. http://www.kahealani.com/ All Rights Reserved Without Prejudice, UCC 1-207, Non Assumsit, T.D.C. All information and transactions are private between the parties and are non negotiable. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 3 06:53:17 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Chris Ruzin) Date: Sat, 03 May 2003 00:53:17 -0500 Subject: Installing RPMs Message-ID: I=B9ve finished installing YDL, but didn=B9t install KDE because I like Gnome better. But because of that, I don=B9t have KPPP installed, so I can=B9t configure my modem. How do I install KPPP without having to completely reinstall the system? Which leads into my other question... How do I install RPMs? I know I type =B3rpm =ADi =B2, but I keep getting an error about a user and group called "dburcaw" (hmmm...) don't exist. Please help! From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 3 07:12:42 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com) Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 01:12:42 -0500 Subject: Installing RPMs References: Message-ID: <000401c3113b$03c06930$0401a8c0@beamus> Have you tried making sure that you are doing this as root? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Ruzin" To: Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 12:53 AM Subject: Installing RPMs Išve finished installing YDL, but didnšt install KDE because I like Gnome better. But because of that, I donšt have KPPP installed, so I canšt configure my modem. How do I install KPPP without having to completely reinstall the system? Which leads into my other question... How do I install RPMs? I know I type ŗrpm ­i ˛, but I keep getting an error about a user and group called "dburcaw" (hmmm...) don't exist. Please help! _______________________________________________ yellowdog-newbie mailing list yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 3 07:15:34 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com) Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 01:15:34 -0500 Subject: more questions from a newbie References: Message-ID: <000b01c3113b$693528a0$0401a8c0@beamus> Not sure bout the divx. But the linux program has to be built specifically for the PowerPC processor not the Intel X86 line. They are to different families of processors with different ways of working hence the need for a version written/ported specifically for the PPC processor... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Schmidt" To: Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 12:04 AM Subject: more questions from a newbie > ok, a few more questions > > what can i use to play divx and real media files (and do these players > support Windows Media Audio 2) > > will YDL 3 run programs for X86 versions of linux ? > > thanks again > > ben schmidt > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 3 07:18:31 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com) Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 01:18:31 -0500 Subject: Kernel panic after IDE init when booting 3.0 CD References: Message-ID: <001201c3113b$d4943050$0401a8c0@beamus> THIS IS SCTRICTLY a guess. But perhaps partitioning of the drive might be necessary??? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reid Beels" To: ; Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 9:42 PM Subject: Kernel panic after IDE init when booting 3.0 CD > I'm attempting to install YDL 3.0 on a 450 G4 and when I attempt to > boot the system from the CD I receive a kernel panic after the IDE > initialization. This same thing has happened before using a 2.3 CD > and I had hoped that 3.0 would resolve the issue. The messages near the > panic are as follows: > > Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.31 > ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with > idebus=xx > ide0: Foung Apple KeyLargo ATA-4 controller, bus ID 2 > ide1: Foung Apple KeyLargo ATA-3 controller, bus ID 0 > ide2: Foung Apple KeyLargo ATA-4 controller, bus ID 1 > Probing IDE interface ide0... > hda: IBM-DPTA-371020, ATA DISK drive > hdb: MAXTOR 4K040H2, ATA DISK drive > Probing IDE interface ide1... > hdc: MATSHITADVD-ROM SR-8585, ATAPT CD/DVD-ROM drive > Probing IDE interface ide2... > ide0 at 0xf1368000-0xf1368007,0xf1368160 on irq 19 > ide1 at 0xf136c000-0xf136c007,0xf136c160 on irq 20 > hda: Enable Ultra DMA 4 > blk: que c02d7778, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0xffffffff) > Oops: Exception in kernel mode, sig: 4 > > After this there come the barrage of hex values and such that tend to > accompany kernel panics. If anyone would find these useful in > diagnosing this problem, let me know and i can post them. Thank you, > Reid Beels > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 3 07:47:49 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Jason Blome) Date: Sat, 03 May 2003 02:47:49 -0400 Subject: yaboot won't boot OS X Message-ID: Hello, I just finished getting all of my yellow dog 3.0 installation up and running, but it seems that now I can't get yaboot or open firmware to boot my OS X partition. I find this strange because I have no problem booting this OS X partition through mac-on-linux, nor did I have a problem booting this with YellowDog 2.3. When I try to boot the OS X partition from the yaboot prompt I get the following error: "DEFAULT CATCH, code=fffffff6." My yaboot.conf file and the output of pdisk -l follow. I am running YellowDog 3.0 on a 2002 15" Powerbook g4. Any insight into this problem would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jay the contents of /etc/yaboot.conf are: boot=/dev/hda9 device=/pci@f2000000/mac-io@17/ata-4@1f000/disk@0: init-message="Yellowdog Linux 3.0!\nHit for boot options.\n\n" partition=12 timeout=30 install=/usr/lib/yaboot/yaboot magicboot=/usr/lib/yaboot/ofboot macosx=/dev/hda14 image=/boot/vmlinux-2.4.20-8d label=linux root=/dev/hda12 read-only initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.20-8d.img append="hdc=ide-scsi" delay=10 enablecdboot the result of running /sbin/pdisk -l is: Partition map (with 512 byte blocks) on '/dev/hda' #: type name length base ( size ) 1: Apple_partition_map Apple 63 @ 1 2: Apple_Driver43*Macintosh 56 @ 64 3: Apple_Driver43*Macintosh 56 @ 120 4: Apple_Driver_ATA*Macintosh 56 @ 176 5: Apple_Driver_ATA*Macintosh 56 @ 232 6: Apple_FWDriver Macintosh 512 @ 288 7: Apple_Driver_IOKit Macintosh 512 @ 800 8: Apple_Patches Patch Partition 512 @ 1312 9: Apple_Bootstrap untitled 20481 @ 1824 ( 10.0M) 10: Apple_HFS "media" 45000000 @ 22305 ( 21.5G) 11: Apple_UNIX_SVR2 swap 1572864 @ 45022305 (768.0M) 12: Apple_UNIX_SVR2 untitled 18134703 @ 46595169 ( 8.6G) 13: Apple_Free Extra 8 @ 117210232 14: Apple_HFS "macOSX" 52480360 @ 64729872 ( 25.0G) Device block size=512, Number of Blocks=117210240 (55.9G) DeviceType=0x0, DeviceId=0x0 Drivers- 1: 23 @ 64, type=0x1 2: 36 @ 120, type=0xffff 3: 21 @ 176, type=0x701 4: 34 @ 232, type=0xf8ff pdisk: Can't read block 0 from '/dev/hdc' pdisk: can't open file '/dev/scd0' (No medium found) _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 3 07:56:11 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com) Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 08:56:11 +0200 Subject: doesn't recognize radeon pci 2001 In-Reply-To: <001201c3113b$d4943050$0401a8c0@beamus> Message-ID: <52DF7559-7D34-11D7-AE52-003065709D2C@spymac.com> I have installed YDL 3.0 with gnome. (because KDE won't install) And at the startup all is fine exept that i get an error message without graphical interface (like in DOS in blue and white), without Text but with just Yes or No. :-) I use Yes and after it's back to blank text with black screen, saying me "using radeon generic" trying and "can't launch X windows" trying using radeon mach 64" and same message after. Someone has an idea of what i could do? thx Blob From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 3 12:31:13 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (David Waite) Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 12:31:13 +0100 Subject: Problems Installing 3.0 Message-ID: Has anyone had any problems installing YDL 3.0 on the 15" iMac LCD?I just downloaded the ISO's last night & installed today.When i hit 'enter' to start the Anaconda installer i can see the GUI sort of,but it's like a really bad TV picture - all over the screen,i can hardly make it out!! Anyway i used the text install which obviously worked no bother.I thought i had the problem sussed as my monitor wasn't detected automatically during the install so i changed it to the 15" iMac & completed the install. When i rebooted to login i got the same problem as the first time!!Is there anybody who's had the same problems?I've installed YDL 2.3 previously with no problems & also tried Mandrake 9.1 with graphical problems (AGAIN!) however after numerous installs i seem to have worked them out apart from sound issues.WHICH IS WHY I CHANGED TO YDL!! Do you reckon there's a bug with this version as this is supposed to be a purely PPC distro that is configured for PPC graphics,sound cards,etc. with full compatibility? OR AM I DOING SOMETHING WROMG?!!PROBABLY!! As you may guess I'm a Linux newbie & have been fooling around with Linux for a couple of weeks trying to find the best distro as i heard you learn more about computing in general working with linux.It seems to me that there's not a lot of distro's that actually work on the newer iMac machines!!Has anybody heard of any other disro's that would work on my machine? Any help would very much be appreciated...Cheers. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 3 13:03:22 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Nigel Horne) Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 13:03:22 +0100 Subject: Problems Installing 3.0 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200305031303.22411.njh@bandsman.co.uk> On Saturday 03 May 2003 12:31 pm, David Waite wrote: > Has anyone had any problems installing YDL 3.0 on the 15" iMac LCD?I > just downloaded the ISO's last night & installed today. Where from? None of the mirrors I've visited seem to be complete. -Nigel -- Nigel Horne. Arranger, Composer, Typesetter. NJH Music, Barnsley, UK. ICQ#20252325 njh@despammed.com http://www.bandsman.co.uk From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 3 14:43:43 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Derick Centeno) Date: 03 May 2003 09:43:43 -0400 Subject: yellowdog-newbie digest, Vol 1 #438 - 9 msgs In-Reply-To: <20030502180104.AA3E61FB3F@newhope.terraplex.com> References: <20030502180104.AA3E61FB3F@newhope.terraplex.com> Message-ID: <1051969423.1010.75.camel@arakus> Dear Sverre: I'm going to assume from your use of userconf that you are using an older edition of YDL. Unfortunately, I no longer remember all its details after moving up to YDL 3.0. Fortunately for you however is the fact that YDL remains part of the Red Hat (RH) family tree; the relationship is close enough for me to have confused it with a distribution of RH Linux, but it is not. There is only one RH Linux although they do produce a version of ppc linux for embedded ppc chips; as a completely seperate product of no value to myself, and others. That leaves YDL as you know, as the most reliable Linux distribution for the ppc. I will appear a bit like a lecturer, but you need to "keep up" with the various versions as YDL moves forward. Why? Security. Security. Security. There are serious weaknesses in linux as an open source OS; and although RH and other open source authors which work on various aspects of Linux (KDE, Gnome, X11, cups, etc.) do their part some do better than others and Terra Soft does their utmost to screen out the "not ready for prime time" - read as not ready for you - efforts. This also means that each release of YDL is actually better, safer and MORE reliable than what came before. The tools, and desktop may and will change but not its kinship with RH. To the question you raised: I suggest you go to your either your own local technical library or to the RH website. At the RH website they actually allow you to download references in pdf formats. You may be able to "backtrack" a bit to an older reference of RH which was the base or foundation for the YDL release you use; that may help you also. But remember you are still susceptible to crackers out there the older you allow your system to get. From the way you are discussing or seeking info. regarding alias' keep in mind that you are also exposing your "users" if you are using YDL as a server, as opposed to a workstation. That is added risk to your users which I'm sure they will not appreciate. It really doesn't matter whether they are your family or friends; you will quickly have neither once their lives and identities are exposed. A very good introduction sure to keep you sleepless for weeks is the Nov/Dec 2000 issue of Maximum Linux; try to get that back issue. They may even provide the CD which originally came with it. Remember that although it may work with your version of YDL; it may not work with the current version as all the libraries and dependencies are current and of course the Maximum Linux CD is not usually for ppc, so you'll have to test for that too. Reading parts of Maximum Linux is almost like reading Wired interspersed with C macros used as nouns with no explanations; but you already guessed that. There is a very nice text which I've always used "Special Edition: Using Linux System Administration" by Arman Danesh and Gautam Das c.2000; Chapter 16 p. 314-5 should address your issues. In fact that page sequence specifically addresses mail aliases. As usual the tools to write and modify performance are between vi, vim and emacs. No tool within Linux, or any Unix, does everything - not userconf, but you already know that or you wouldn't be this far "in" Linux anyway. I'm sure you enjoy coding or else you wouldn't be in the Linux world, but somewhere along the line a even the Roman Coliseum had to be reconstructed, as did the Pyramids and Sphinx. And then there is the final alternative move on anew to a freshly built reliably and firmly prepared edifice with ever smaller holes. Choices are never easy. Whatever you decide, Good Luck. On Fri, 2003-05-02 at 14:01, yellowdog-newbie-request@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com wrote: > 3. New user with email alias (Sverre =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F8rensen?=) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 22:12:38 +0200 > To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > From: Sverre =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F8rensen?= > Subject: New user with email alias > Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > > Does anyone know of a good and easy tool to add a user and give that > user an emailalias at the same time? Now I add the user with > "userconf" and then I add an alias in "/etc/alias" afterwards. > > Sverre :) From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 3 14:42:48 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (db@epsi.net) Date: Sat, 03 May 2003 08:42:48 -0500 Subject: resolution and Gaim In-Reply-To: <7979FBB1-7D23-11D7-937B-000393D737C0@cornell.edu> References: <7979FBB1-7D23-11D7-937B-000393D737C0@cornell.edu> Message-ID: <3EB3C758.1000409@epsi.net> Ben Schmidt wrote: > I just successfully installed YDL 3 on my MDD (with a geforce 4 ti if > anyone is wondering if it'll run with it) and i have a few questions: > > 1. My screen picture for some reason is shifted down and too the left? > does anyone know what would be cuasing this and if i can fix it? Try "xvidtune" from the command line. Temp fix but a fix. > 2. when trying to change display resolution's if i got from say 1024*768 > to 800*600 i do the logout/login process and the res switches ok. but if > i then go into the display manager, in an attempt to raise the > resolution back upto 1024, the options only go up to 800*600 (ie 1024 > has dissapeared from the list). Ideally i'd like to be at 1280*1024x75hz > so again if anyone knows what is cuasing this and how to fix it i would > be very appreciative > > 3. when trying to connect to the AIM servers using Gaim, i input my > username/password and then click connect (or whatever the button says) > and the program simply hangs up, the window goes gray and the only way i > know how to get it to go away is to find the PID using "top" and then > manually killing it (this btw is the extent of my command line prowess) > so again any help with this would be appreciated as i would like to be > able to connect to AIM when in YDL I have been having alot of probs with Gaim also. You are not alone. I will post any findings I can come up with. Dave From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 3 16:49:47 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Derick Centeno) Date: 03 May 2003 11:49:47 -0400 Subject: yellowdog-newbie digest, Vol 1 #439 - 13 msgs In-Reply-To: <20030503134002.5200C1FB68@newhope.terraplex.com> References: <20030503134002.5200C1FB68@newhope.terraplex.com> Message-ID: <1051976986.1010.131.camel@arakus> Dear Angela: My configuration is slightly older than yours. I have a 233MHz Beige Minitower...its insides aren't what it thinks it is. It thinks its using two IDE drives; but it has only one. Keeping the discussion as simple as possible Apple would not be happy with what I've jerry rigged. Everything works fine however and YDL 3.0 runs beautifully. I would prefer to be running Enlightenment but they are not currently in a stable release so I don't mind giving them up for a nice clean integrated KDE/Gnome interface. Everything is configurable and although the Wonderland theme is a great improvement; however my tastes are different but there are enough options to keep my dark side happy. Something along the lines of the Skypilot theme in Mozilla would be my preference but I'll be satisfied with deep dark reds. To your difficulty: On the first install CD, make sure you've transfered the necessary updated control panel and init. Make sure to copy the kernels ending in d and dBOOT, place them in the Linux kernels folder within the System folder. Copy also the new ramdisk to your System Folder. When you restart from this procedure make sure you select the kernel ending in BOOT and also the option for the NEW ramdisk you just installed. You should then find Anaconda more than happy to behave and go through the 3D installation flawlessly. Read the installation notes during the install process. Suggestion let Anaconda take care of partioning the drive you want YDL 3.0 to run on; its a really great easy system. Aplauso. Aplauso. Applause. Applause to the minds at Terra Soft!! You should have, after the installation is complete, absolutely no difficulty; another suggestion: allow the graphical interface as your login. And remember we also now can move up to 1Ghz... I'm sure you'll move into a sense of awe with that chip and YDL 3.0 in full control of it. BOY oh BOY, I can hardly wait longer. Anyway. I hope this was helpful and fun in its unique way. On Sat, 2003-05-03 at 09:40, yellowdog-newbie-request@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com wrote: > 4. No Boot fresh YDL3 install (Angela Kahealani) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 4 > From: Angela Kahealani > Organization: ANGELA KAHEALANI > To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com, > Reid Beels , > yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > Subject: No Boot fresh YDL3 install > Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 19:42:38 -1000 > Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > > I'm attempting to install YDL 3.0 on a Beige G3 MiniTower 266... > can't boot the system after the full install from the Geek-CD set... > /sbin/modprobe -s -k block-major-8 errno=2 > no mount on 08:1b > cannot open /dev/sdb11 > UW SCSI disk on 53c88 controller card. > > Are there known issues in this configuration? > > -- > Copyright 2003 Angela Kahealani. http://www.kahealani.com/ > All Rights Reserved Without Prejudice, UCC 1-207, > Non Assumsit, T.D.C. All information and transactions > are private between the parties and are non negotiable. > > --__--__-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 3 17:19:20 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com) Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 11:19:20 -0500 Subject: BootX Version and Installation Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C31165.D79178B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all! Trying to install YDL 3.0 on an old world mac... I have Bootx 1.2.3 installed on my mac boot disk (Zip Drive) Bootx version 1.2.2 comes with the YDL install cds Is it ok to use the 1.2.3 or should i switch to 1.2.2? ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C31165.D79178B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello all!
 
Trying to install YDL 3.0 on an old = world=20 mac...
 
I have Bootx 1.2.3 installed on my mac = boot disk=20 (Zip Drive)
Bootx version 1.2.2 comes with the YDL = install=20 cds
 
Is it ok to use the 1.2.3 or should i = switch to=20 1.2.2?
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C31165.D79178B0-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 3 18:04:12 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (GWMartin) Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 12:04:12 -0500 Subject: Problems Installing 3.0 References: <200305031303.22411.njh@bandsman.co.uk> Message-ID: <001001c31196$0a896950$0401a8c0@beamus> These are the URLs i used: http://carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/yellowdog/iso/yellowdog-3 .0-sirius-20030325-install1.iso http://carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/yellowdog/iso/yellowdog-3 .0-sirius-20030325-install2.iso http://carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/yellowdog/iso/yellowdog-3 .0-sirius-20030325-install3.iso Had a pretty decent speed as well.... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nigel Horne" To: Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 7:03 AM Subject: Re: Problems Installing 3.0 > On Saturday 03 May 2003 12:31 pm, David Waite wrote: > > Has anyone had any problems installing YDL 3.0 on the 15" iMac LCD?I > > just downloaded the ISO's last night & installed today. > > Where from? None of the mirrors I've visited seem to be complete. > > -Nigel > > -- > Nigel Horne. Arranger, Composer, Typesetter. > NJH Music, Barnsley, UK. ICQ#20252325 > njh@despammed.com http://www.bandsman.co.uk > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 3 19:31:05 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com) Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 13:31:05 -0500 Subject: Multiple Nic Question Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C31178.3F77F640 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable According to: = http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/support/configuration/network.shtml If I have more than one NIC both ports will be reset to the same = settings. Does this mean eth1 and eth0 will be set to what ever IP info = I put in? ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C31178.3F77F640 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
According to: http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/support/configuration/network.shtml
 
If I have more than one NIC both = ports will be=20 reset to the same settings. Does this mean eth1 and eth0 will be set to = what=20 ever IP info I put in?
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C31178.3F77F640-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 3 19:51:05 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Nigel Horne) Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 19:51:05 +0100 Subject: Problems Installing 3.0 In-Reply-To: <001001c31196$0a896950$0401a8c0@beamus> References: <200305031303.22411.njh@bandsman.co.uk> <001001c31196$0a896950$0401a8c0@beamus> Message-ID: <200305031951.05947.njh@bandsman.co.uk> On Saturday 03 May 2003 6:04 pm, GWMartin wrote: > These are the URLs i used... Ta. -Nigel -- Nigel Horne. Arranger, Composer, Typesetter. NJH Music, Barnsley, UK. ICQ#20252325 njh@despammed.com http://www.bandsman.co.uk From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 3 22:33:52 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Paolo G. Cordone) Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 22:33:52 +0100 Subject: yaboot won't boot OS X Message-ID: >Hello, > > I just finished getting all of my yellow dog 3.0 installation up and >running, but it seems that now I can't get yaboot or open firmware to boot >my OS X partition. I find this strange because I have no problem booting >this OS X partition through mac-on-linux, nor did I have a problem booting >this with YellowDog 2.3. When I try to boot the OS X partition from the >yaboot prompt I get the following error: "DEFAULT CATCH, code=fffffff6." My >yaboot.conf file and the output of pdisk -l follow. I am running YellowDog >3.0 on a 2002 15" PowerBook g4. Any insight into this problem would be >greatly appreciated. > >Thanks, >Jay Jay, I have had the same problem, although I use an OldWorld Mac (G3 beige desktop) at work. After installing YDL 3 onto a second hard disk, my main HD containing OS X 10.2.5 became unusable. By this I mean that when I boot up, the open firmware screen comes up with a DEFAULT CATCH message you get which prevents me from booting into X. I get the 'bye' option of continuing using classic (which lets me boot off a CD), but if I try the 'boot' with the default device, it tells me that the CLAIM cannot be executed. Typing 'reset-all' did not work. If I boot off classic, I can see all the files on the hard disk itself, so data has not been lost. I am not so sure how to reset the firmware. In one of the howtos, there is some explanation about doing something similar for yaboot and NewWorld machines. It says to type 'printenv' and then 'setenv boot-device hd:x,\\:tbxi', with 'x' indicating the partition to boot from. Have you tried that? I am at home now and will return to my office only on Tuesday, as we have a long weekend here in Ireland, but I am a bit anxious that I will have to re-install OS X, plus upgrades and all the applications I had, if nothing will bring back my hard disk. Let me know if you find a solution. Ciao, Paolo -- Paolo G. Cordone Book Review Editor First Monday - the peer-reviewed journal on the Internet http://www.firstmonday.org "I have simple tastes. I am always satisfied with the best" --Oscar Wilde From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 3 23:27:04 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Eric Schwarzkopf) Date: Sat, 03 May 2003 15:27:04 -0700 Subject: Desktop not being displayed Message-ID: I just installed YellowDog Linux 2.3 on my "Old World Mac" Power Computing Power Center, and everything looks and ran great. I was asked to pick the type of monitor that is attached to my Mac and the list did not include the Power Computing 17" Multiscan model# PCC51189, so I selected one of the generic ones listed, and finished the installation and restarted. Well YDL starts to boot up and it gets to point where it asks (TEXT MODE only GRAPHICAL not working) for user name and PW, and then I type "startx" to load the GUI desktop, and all I get is a blank screen, I know that the desktop has loaded because I can hear the startup sound, I just don't have video. Does anyone know what the correct setting are for a "Old World Mac - Power Computing 17" Multiscan model# PCC51189"? Thanks Eric From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun May 4 04:03:24 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Nils Crompton) Date: Sun, 04 May 2003 13:03:24 +1000 Subject: won't boot OS X period Message-ID: <5124283.1052017404580.JavaMail.nilscrompton@mac.com> On Sunday, May 04, 2003, at 07:33AM, Paolo G. Cordone wrote: >After installing YDL 3 onto a second hard disk, my >main HD containing OS X 10.2.5 became unusable. By this I mean that >when I boot up, the open firmware screen comes up with a DEFAULT >CATCH message you get which prevents me from booting into X. I get >the 'bye' option of continuing using classic (which lets me boot off >a CD), but if I try the 'boot' with the default device, it tells me >that the CLAIM cannot be executed. Typing 'reset-all' did not work. This happened to me too. I have a 400mhz G4 (AGP Graphics) and two HDD. My Master had YDL 2.3 and the slave OSX, OS9. During the YDL 3.0 instal it said some thing about fix partition map and even though I thought I was avoiding hdb it stuffed up my X install. I too can see my OSX partition in OS9 but I can't boot it either with yaboot or with "startup dsik' control panel. From an OSX recue disk the partitions come up blank but OS9 bots fine. Am doing a complete reinstall of X :( Also my graphic install of 3.0 failed is Geforce4MX32mb supported? nils Nils Crompton 29 Macdonald Street Erskineville NSW 2043 Australia +61 2 95907735 +61 0415 230 195 From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun May 4 05:17:22 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Angela Kahealani) Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 18:17:22 -1000 Subject: yellowdog-newbie digest, Vol 1 #439 - 13 msgs In-Reply-To: <1051976986.1010.131.camel@arakus> References: <20030503134002.5200C1FB68@newhope.terraplex.com> <1051976986.1010.131.camel@arakus> Message-ID: <200305031817.22902.angela@kahealani.com> On Sat, 2003-05-03 05:49, Derick Centeno wrote: > Dear Angela: > My configuration is slightly older than yours. I have a 233MHz Beige > Minitower...its insides aren't what it thinks it is. It thinks its > using two IDE drives; but it has only one. Keeping the discussion as > simple as possible Apple would not be happy with what I've jerry rigged. I filled up every possible expansion slot on mine, but didn't do any nasty hacks to the hardware... except to a plastic bezel covering the bay that got upgraded from an Apple Factory Zip-100 drive to a Panasonic (Matshita) DVD-RAM (2.6GB/side) drive. > Everything works fine however and YDL 3.0 runs beautifully. I would > prefer to be running Enlightenment but they are not currently in a > stable release so I don't mind giving them up for a nice clean > integrated KDE/Gnome interface. Everything is configurable and although > the Wonderland theme is a great improvement; however my tastes are > different but there are enough options to keep my dark side happy. > Something along the lines of the Skypilot theme in Mozilla would be my > preference but I'll be satisfied with deep dark reds. > > To your difficulty: > On the first install CD, make sure you've transfered the necessary > updated control panel and init. Make sure to copy the kernels ending in > d and dBOOT, place them in the Linux kernels folder within the System > folder. Copy also the new ramdisk to your System Folder. When you > restart from this procedure make sure you select the kernel ending in > BOOT and also the option for the NEW ramdisk you just installed. You > should then find Anaconda more than happy to behave and go through the > 3D installation flawlessly. Read the installation notes during the > install process. Suggestion let Anaconda take care of partioning the > drive you want YDL 3.0 to run on; its a really great easy system. > Aplauso. Aplauso. Applause. Applause to the minds at Terra Soft!! > > You should have, after the installation is complete, absolutely no > difficulty; still have the one I posted > another suggestion: allow the graphical interface as your login. not until I get video working stably > And remember we also now can move up to 1Ghz... I'm sure you'll > move into a sense of awe with that chip and YDL 3.0 in full control of > it. I tried a 532MHz G4 upgrade and it didn't work out... my motherboard's got some marginal timing issues on the IDE controllers / busses that begin to fail with a different processor. > BOY oh BOY, I can hardly wait longer. Me either, so ordered a PC. > Anyway. I hope this was helpful and fun in its unique way. Uniquely fun in a helpful sort of way > > can't boot the system after the full install from the Geek-CD set... > > /sbin/modprobe -s -k block-major-8 errno=2 > > no mount on 08:1b > > cannot open /dev/sdb11 > > UW SCSI disk on 53c88 controller card. -- Copyright 2003 Angela Kahealani. http://www.kahealani.com/ All Rights Reserved Without Prejudice, UCC 1-207, Non Assumsit, T.D.C. All information and transactions are private between the parties and are non negotiable. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun May 4 07:43:10 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Derick Centeno) Date: 04 May 2003 02:43:10 -0400 Subject: Linux v. Windoze Message-ID: <1052030590.1031.1.camel@arakus> Check this article out folks: http://www.it-director.com/article.php?id=3768 From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun May 4 17:23:46 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Derick Centeno) Date: 04 May 2003 12:23:46 -0400 Subject: Printing Message-ID: <1052065426.1052.4.camel@arakus> Hi: Within the MacOS environment, there exists the helpful ability to print the URL origin of a page printed while on the net from within a browser. Can Mozilla do this? Is there a button or switch or something I overlooked to turn on or off? Or is it something within the Printer Manager itself which needs to be changed? Thanks for your assistance. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon May 5 08:02:32 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Madhusudan Katti) Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 00:02:32 -0700 Subject: KPPP error 15 (pppd timeout) Message-ID: <1052118151.2321.11.camel@Madlinux> Here's a newbie question about configuring KPPP. I just installed YDL 3.0 and have run into my first problem when trying to connect to my campus ppp server. The KPPP dialer quits after successful early negotiations with the server with a pppd timeout error. The log shows an error 15, but no other suggestions. I am able to make a ppp connection successfully through the Network Configuration app under System Settings.After setting up the modem device there, I can 'activate' it - it then dials the server and everything works fine. In fact, I am sending this message now using this very ppp connection. Any ideas why the pppd quits with KPPP? thanks From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon May 5 14:34:08 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (db@epsi.net) Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 08:34:08 -0500 Subject: KPPP error 15 (pppd timeout) In-Reply-To: <1052118151.2321.11.camel@Madlinux> References: <1052118151.2321.11.camel@Madlinux> Message-ID: <3EB66850.6020703@epsi.net> Try deactivating eth0 in the net config area, if it is active. That is what I have to do to allow KPPP to get a complete usable dialup connection. Dave Madhusudan Katti wrote: > Here's a newbie question about configuring KPPP. > > I just installed YDL 3.0 and have run into my first problem when trying > to connect to my campus ppp server. The KPPP dialer quits after > successful early negotiations with the server with a pppd timeout error. > The log shows an error 15, but no other suggestions. > > I am able to make a ppp connection successfully through the Network > Configuration app under System Settings.After setting up the modem > device there, I can 'activate' it - it then dials the server and > everything works fine. In fact, I am sending this message now using this > very ppp connection. > > Any ideas why the pppd quits with KPPP? > > thanks > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon May 5 14:52:03 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Jason Blome) Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 09:52:03 -0400 Subject: yaboot won't boot OS X Message-ID: Paolo, You may want to try restoring all of the default settings to your P-RAM, you can do this by holding Option - Command - P - R while your MAC boots. Then, when you reboot, hold down the Option key, Open Firmware should present you with icons for all of your bootable partions, if you're lucky, it may find OSX. I have had no luck with this, but it has been recommended to me, but I can't figure out why Mac-On-Linux can find my OSX partition and boot it, but Open Firmware cannot. For now I am just accessing my OSX partitions through MOL, but I guess if I don't come up with something better soon, I will reinstall OSX, which I am really trying to avoid. Cheers, Jay >From: "Paolo G. Cordone" >Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >To: YDL Newbie >Subject: Re: yaboot won't boot OS X >Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 22:33:52 +0100 > >>Hello, >> >> I just finished getting all of my yellow dog 3.0 installation up and >>running, but it seems that now I can't get yaboot or open firmware to boot >>my OS X partition. I find this strange because I have no problem booting >>this OS X partition through mac-on-linux, nor did I have a problem booting >>this with YellowDog 2.3. When I try to boot the OS X partition from the >>yaboot prompt I get the following error: "DEFAULT CATCH, code=fffffff6." >>My >>yaboot.conf file and the output of pdisk -l follow. I am running >>YellowDog >>3.0 on a 2002 15" PowerBook g4. Any insight into this problem would be >>greatly appreciated. >> >>Thanks, >>Jay > >Jay, > >I have had the same problem, although I use an OldWorld Mac (G3 beige >desktop) at work. After installing YDL 3 onto a second hard disk, my main >HD containing OS X 10.2.5 became unusable. By this I mean that when I boot >up, the open firmware screen comes up with a DEFAULT CATCH message you get >which prevents me from booting into X. I get the 'bye' option of continuing >using classic (which lets me boot off a CD), but if I try the 'boot' with >the default device, it tells me that the CLAIM cannot be executed. Typing >'reset-all' did not work. > >If I boot off classic, I can see all the files on the hard disk itself, so >data has not been lost. I am not so sure how to reset the firmware. >In one of the howtos, there is some explanation about doing something >similar for yaboot and NewWorld machines. It says to type 'printenv' and >then 'setenv boot-device hd:x,\\:tbxi', with 'x' indicating the partition >to boot from. > >Have you tried that? I am at home now and will return to my office only on >Tuesday, as we have a long weekend here in Ireland, but I am a bit anxious >that I will have to re-install OS X, plus upgrades and all the applications >I had, if nothing will bring back my hard disk. > >Let me know if you find a solution. > >Ciao, > >Paolo >-- >Paolo G. Cordone >Book Review Editor >First Monday - the peer-reviewed journal on the Internet >http://www.firstmonday.org > > >"I have simple tastes. I am always satisfied with the best" > --Oscar Wilde >_______________________________________________ >yellowdog-newbie mailing list >yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon May 5 16:25:16 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Mike Lloyd) Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 10:25:16 -0500 Subject: yaboot won't boot OS X In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Paolo, I had a similar problem on my Bondi Blue iMac. I think there is a 12? Gbyte limit that Open Firmware can boot from, so I created a 2 Gbyte partition for Mac OS followed by a 10 Gbyte partition for Linux and finished out the drive with my main Mac OS storage area (Extended) and a small 2 Gbyte transfer area (Standard) to move data from one OS to the other. Hope this works for you. Mike From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon May 5 11:56:23 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Paolo G. Cordone) Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 11:56:23 +0100 Subject: Installing software Message-ID: In YDL 2.x I remember there was a utility that let me uninstall unwanted software, and which also allowed to add additional packages. In v3 I cannot find anything like that. I am trying to install Gnome and Nautilus, plus perhaps some other packages from the CD. How do I do that? Thanks, and apologies if this is really a silly question... Paolo -- Paolo G. Cordone Book Review Editor First Monday - the peer-reviewed journal on the Internet http://www.firstmonday.org From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon May 5 11:53:24 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Paolo G. Cordone) Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 11:53:24 +0100 Subject: Sound problem Message-ID: I have a question regarding YDL 3.0 When I log in as my ordinary user account, the sound driver for some reason does not load, so I get no startup up sound effects, nor anything once I am in. If I log in as root, everything works as expected. I don't recall changing any settings after creating the ordinary user account. Where should I look, in order to find what is going on? Cheers, Paolo -- Paolo G. Cordone Book Review Editor First Monday - the peer-reviewed journal on the Internet http://www.firstmonday.org From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon May 5 18:04:22 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Alex Comeau) Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 11:04:22 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Apple Airport Setup in YDL 3.0 Message-ID: <20030505170422.2F143EA2B@spy3.spymac.com> I am in a bind with YDL 3.0 when i go into any of the network prefs i get this exception error and then when i try to take the cable from my airport and then put it in my ibooks nic port and restart it won't notice it and then i don't understand how i could fix it i have cable internet but i can't get on the internet so i can't tell you right in front of the thing but if some one could tell me how to fix and configure everything it would be awesome. Alex Comeau --- Msg sent via Spymac Mail -- http://mail.spymac.com From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon May 5 18:22:20 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Ed=20Bogart?=) Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 19:22:20 +0200 (CEST) Subject: YDL 3.0 on a 3400 powerbook? Message-ID: <20030505172220.42788.qmail@web41511.mail.yahoo.com> --0-2011565875-1052155340=:42127 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi all, I've just sent an order for YDL 3.0 and wonder if anyone has been able to get it up and running on a powerbook 3400 yet. I would apreciate any advice or warnings that you have. Ed --------------------------------- Gesendet von http://mail.yahoo.de. !!! TOPHANDYS: 24 MONATE OHNE GRUNDGEBÜHR AB 0,- € !!! ...und viele andere Schnäpchen bei www.discount-express.de. --0-2011565875-1052155340=:42127 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi all,
 
I've just sent an order for YDL 3.0 and wonder if anyone has been able to get it up and running on a powerbook 3400 yet. I would apreciate any advice or warnings that you have.
 
Ed


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!!! TOPHANDYS: 24 MONATE OHNE GRUNDGEBÜHR AB 0,- € !!! ...und viele andere Schnäpchen bei www.discount-express.de. --0-2011565875-1052155340=:42127-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 6 01:03:49 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Chris Ruzin) Date: 05 May 2003 19:03:49 -0500 Subject: Gnome Themes Message-ID: <1052179429.1256.5.camel@Powerbook> I figured out that the window manager in Gnome is Metacity. So I downloaded several Metacity themes. Whenever I try to install them though, it rarely works. I've only been successful with two out of twelve or so I've downloaded. I leave them tarballed and install them through the theme manager that comes with Gnome. I've looked inside the .themes directory and I see the ones I've installed, even the ones I didn't think installed correctly. How come I can't see them in the theme manager? Also, I installed Sawfish, but don't know how to get it running instead of Metacity. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 6 01:48:58 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Marc Bakker) Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 02:48:58 +0200 Subject: Installing YDL 3.0 ia FTP Message-ID: Hello, I just downloaded ydl 3.0. The partitioning tool pDisk included with the installer didn't work (exception handler occurred when trying to start the partitioning process of the installer) so I now downloaded a newer version of the pdisk utility. Instead of burning a cdrom for each update (without even knowing if _this_ one will work!) I want to setup a FTP server, include the necessary files in a folder under the root and instruct the installer to get all the files from that server instead of a cdrom. With Mandrake this was an option so it should be possible with the ydl 3.0 Anaconda installer. So here's the setup I plan: I want to install ydl 3.0 on my G3 233 oldworld PPC; The G3 is connected to a SOHO network that incudes a PC; I run a FTP server on the PC; I put all the files needed in the root of the FTP server. How can I instruct the installer to get the files from that FTP server??? Thanks for any help, Marc From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 6 01:48:38 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Dan Burcaw) Date: 05 May 2003 18:48:38 -0600 Subject: Installing YDL 3.0 ia FTP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1052182118.1388.66.camel@skyfox.terraplex.com> I think the problem here is that Mandrake does some funky things to the partition map. I've seen several people with YDL install problems during partitioning after they've been using Mandrake. I suggest initializing your drive. Also, providing the error you received would be useful to confirm this. -D On Mon, 2003-05-05 at 18:48, Marc Bakker wrote: > Hello, > > I just downloaded ydl 3.0. The partitioning tool pDisk included with the > installer didn't work (exception handler occurred when trying to start the > partitioning process of the installer) so I now downloaded a newer version > of the pdisk utility. Instead of burning a cdrom for each update (without > even knowing if _this_ one will work!) I want to setup a FTP server, include > the necessary files in a folder under the root and instruct the installer to > get all the files from that server instead of a cdrom. With Mandrake this > was an option so it should be possible with the ydl 3.0 Anaconda installer. > > So here's the setup I plan: > > I want to install ydl 3.0 on my G3 233 oldworld PPC; > The G3 is connected to a SOHO network that incudes a PC; > I run a FTP server on the PC; > I put all the files needed in the root of the FTP server. > > How can I instruct the installer to get the files from that FTP server??? > > Thanks for any help, > > Marc > > > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 6 01:50:24 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Dan Burcaw) Date: 05 May 2003 18:50:24 -0600 Subject: Error installing YDL 3.0 (/mnt/source/.discinfo) In-Reply-To: <001701c31036$ac3ec8a0$1201a8c0@teranet> References: <001701c31036$ac3ec8a0$1201a8c0@teranet> Message-ID: <1052182224.1173.68.camel@skyfox.terraplex.com> Sounds like bad media. Try at the CD boot prompt: install mediacheck On Thu, 2003-05-01 at 17:09, Bill Laundrie wrote: > Hello, > > I just downloaded YDL 3.0, and I'm trying to install it on a B&W G3 with a > completely blank 10 GB hard drive. > > I boot with CD 1, go through the install steps, and it starts installing the > packages. Shortly after it asks for CD 3, I get the following errors: > > Error > The file /mnt/sysimage/var/tmp/kdeartwork-3.1-1.ppc.rpm cannot be opened. > This is due to a missing file, a bad package, or bad media. Press > to try again. > > Exception Occurred > > File "/usr/lib/anaconda/image.py", line 119 in getFilename > f=open("/mnt/source/.discinfo") > IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: "/mnt/source/.discinfo" > > I've tried re-burning the CDs, even went as far as downloading fresh copies, > and I still get the same error (about 10 times in a row now, always at the > same point). > > Any suggestions? > > Thank you! > > > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 6 01:51:11 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Dan Burcaw) Date: 05 May 2003 18:51:11 -0600 Subject: won't boot OS X period In-Reply-To: <5124283.1052017404580.JavaMail.nilscrompton@mac.com> References: <5124283.1052017404580.JavaMail.nilscrompton@mac.com> Message-ID: <1052182271.1173.70.camel@skyfox.terraplex.com> Please see: http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/pipermail/yellowdog-general/2003-April/007186.html On Sat, 2003-05-03 at 21:03, Nils Crompton wrote: > On Sunday, May 04, 2003, at 07:33AM, Paolo G. Cordone wrote: > > >After installing YDL 3 onto a second hard disk, my > >main HD containing OS X 10.2.5 became unusable. By this I mean that > >when I boot up, the open firmware screen comes up with a DEFAULT > >CATCH message you get which prevents me from booting into X. I get > >the 'bye' option of continuing using classic (which lets me boot off > >a CD), but if I try the 'boot' with the default device, it tells me > >that the CLAIM cannot be executed. Typing 'reset-all' did not work. > > This happened to me too. I have a 400mhz G4 (AGP Graphics) and two HDD. My Master had YDL 2.3 and the slave OSX, OS9. During the YDL 3.0 instal it said some thing about fix partition map and even though I thought I was avoiding hdb it stuffed up my X install. I too can see my OSX partition in OS9 but I can't boot it either with yaboot or with "startup dsik' control panel. From an OSX recue disk the partitions come up blank but OS9 bots fine. > > Am doing a complete reinstall of X > > :( > > Also my graphic install of 3.0 failed is Geforce4MX32mb supported? > > nils > > > Nils Crompton > 29 Macdonald Street > Erskineville > NSW 2043 > Australia > +61 2 95907735 > +61 0415 230 195 > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 6 05:58:01 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Daniel Crosby) Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 21:58:01 -0700 Subject: Can't install on MDD PowerMac Message-ID: Okay, I'm trying to install 3.0 on a MDD PowerMac (2002), dual 1GHz. The CD boots, but when I try to install (in graphical or safe mode), it hard freezes (cursor blinks a few seconds then stops) while still showing the text startup info. The last two lines of text are Running install... Running /sbin/loader Notable hardware: Radeon 9000 (OEM) video card; it has a second hard drive, a DVD-ROM (in addition to the SuperDrive) and a third-party ethernet card. I have tried disconnecting each of these three and the same thing happens. I know some people are running on this model and my video card is supported. Any thoughts? Thanks, Dan From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 6 07:22:33 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Dan Burcaw) Date: 06 May 2003 00:22:33 -0600 Subject: Can't install on MDD PowerMac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1052202153.1388.184.camel@skyfox.terraplex.com> --=-Nm52QTtAuGO+CPf4Ceju Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've done an install on this very machine. Perhaps a media issue? Try: install mediacheck Perhaps bad ram? On Mon, 2003-05-05 at 22:58, Daniel Crosby wrote: > Okay, I'm trying to install 3.0 on a MDD PowerMac (2002), dual 1GHz. The = CD > boots, but when I try to install (in graphical or safe mode), it hard > freezes (cursor blinks a few seconds then stops) while still showing the > text startup info. The last two lines of text are >=20 > Running install... > Running /sbin/loader >=20 > Notable hardware: Radeon 9000 (OEM) video card; it has a second hard driv= e, > a DVD-ROM (in addition to the SuperDrive) and a third-party ethernet card= . I > have tried disconnecting each of these three and the same thing happens. >=20 > I know some people are running on this model and my video card is support= ed. > Any thoughts? >=20 > Thanks, > Dan >=20 > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie --=-Nm52QTtAuGO+CPf4Ceju Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA+t1Spy6BqWf2/qpsRAjApAJ9oR7mTaSTvBlMjTbH8Tx4eiQcvBACaA+vp HHYZgaP3S1CDg4ZUv9HrWCk= =FOSS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-Nm52QTtAuGO+CPf4Ceju-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 6 08:22:33 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Steve) Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 00:22:33 -0700 Subject: Pismo trackpad "tap" activation with YDL 3.0? Message-ID: <3EB762B9.1030800@cyberianhamster.com> I just got my YDL 3.0, and I can't seem to get the trackpad to tap-click on my Pismo/Firewire Powerbook. Tried using the suggestions for YDL 2.2 at http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/support/solutions/ydl_general/mouse_buttons.shtml but fiddling with my /etc/sysconfig/mouse doesn't seem to work. Another alternative is to tell my system to execute: /usr/bin/trackpad tap on every startup, but this seems overly complex for a simple and common feature for laptops (why isn't this configured on the install?). Oddly, I could use the trackpad to tap for mouse clicks during the install, but I can't do it AFTER the install. Anybody else having similar troubles? Steve From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 6 12:02:32 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (mauro) Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 13:02:32 +0200 Subject: ppc 6500 Message-ID: Come posso installare YLD 3.0 in un PPC 6500 603ev? Fino ad adesso tutti i tentativi sono falliti.... How could i install YDL 3.0 on a PPC 6500 275 mhz 603ev? Thankx From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 6 12:07:04 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_M=F8lsted?=) Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 13:07:04 +0200 Subject: ppc 6500 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi You might want to chack out this page: http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/support/installation/ Rene Molsted On tirsdag, maj 6, 2003, at 13:02 Europe/Copenhagen, mauro wrote: > Come posso installare YLD 3.0 in un PPC 6500 603ev? > Fino ad adesso tutti i tentativi sono falliti.... > > How could i install YDL 3.0 on a PPC 6500 275 mhz 603ev? > > Thankx > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 6 12:15:35 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (mauro) Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 13:15:35 +0200 Subject: ppc 6500 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: heh, thanks, i yet did it but doesn't work... a lot of problems with bootX and yaboot wont work, while vmlinux doesn't reachs installation cd... So, i'm in serious troubles...:) thanks anyway... Hi > You might want to chack out this page: > http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/support/installation/ > > Rene Molsted > > > > On tirsdag, maj 6, 2003, at 13:02 Europe/Copenhagen, mauro wrote: > >> Come posso installare YLD 3.0 in un PPC 6500 603ev? >> Fino ad adesso tutti i tentativi sono falliti.... >> >> How could i install YDL 3.0 on a PPC 6500 275 mhz 603ev? >> >> Thankx >> >> _______________________________________________ >> yellowdog-newbie mailing list >> yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >> http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 6 12:28:52 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_M=F8lsted?=) Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 13:28:52 +0200 Subject: ppc 6500 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I had problems on my B&W G3 - that was bad media. How far do you get? On tirsdag, maj 6, 2003, at 13:15 Europe/Copenhagen, mauro wrote: > heh, thanks, i yet did it but doesn't work... a lot of problems with > bootX > and yaboot wont work, while vmlinux doesn't reachs installation cd... > So, i'm in serious troubles...:) thanks anyway... > > Hi >> You might want to chack out this page: >> http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/support/installation/ >> >> Rene Molsted >> >> >> >> On tirsdag, maj 6, 2003, at 13:02 Europe/Copenhagen, mauro wrote: >> >>> Come posso installare YLD 3.0 in un PPC 6500 603ev? >>> Fino ad adesso tutti i tentativi sono falliti.... >>> >>> How could i install YDL 3.0 on a PPC 6500 275 mhz 603ev? >>> >>> Thankx >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> yellowdog-newbie mailing list >>> yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >>> http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie >> >> _______________________________________________ >> yellowdog-newbie mailing list >> yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >> http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 6 12:46:49 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (mauro) Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 13:46:49 +0200 Subject: ppc 6500 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Well, my medias are ok, i burned 'em ISOs in the right way with Roxio Titanium on my G4, and i did double copy and i did test them about mounting on the desktop... But using vmlinux and the ramdisk checked on boot loader, it doesn't find the cd... and using wmlinux without ramdisk checked it gives a kernel panic after some lines. With Yaboot, i got just a black screen and nothing more... > I had problems on my B&W G3 - that was bad media. > How far do you get? > > > On tirsdag, maj 6, 2003, at 13:15 Europe/Copenhagen, mauro wrote: > >> heh, thanks, i yet did it but doesn't work... a lot of problems with >> bootX >> and yaboot wont work, while vmlinux doesn't reachs installation cd... >> So, i'm in serious troubles...:) thanks anyway... >> >> Hi >>> You might want to chack out this page: >>> http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/support/installation/ >>> >>> Rene Molsted >>> >>> >>> >>> On tirsdag, maj 6, 2003, at 13:02 Europe/Copenhagen, mauro wrote: >>> >>>> Come posso installare YLD 3.0 in un PPC 6500 603ev? >>>> Fino ad adesso tutti i tentativi sono falliti.... >>>> >>>> How could i install YDL 3.0 on a PPC 6500 275 mhz 603ev? >>>> >>>> Thankx >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> yellowdog-newbie mailing list >>>> yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >>>> http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> yellowdog-newbie mailing list >>> yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >>> http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie >> >> _______________________________________________ >> yellowdog-newbie mailing list >> yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >> http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 6 13:02:12 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Nigel Horne) Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 13:02:12 +0100 Subject: PARTNERSHIP Message-ID: > IS there anyway to stop this kind of madness. Simple, just make this list a closed one so that only subscribers can = post. -Nigel From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 6 14:52:59 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Dan Wilson) Date: 06 May 2003 08:52:59 -0500 Subject: Mac-on-Linux setup In-Reply-To: <20030506114802.15A731FB70@newhope.terraplex.com> References: <20030506114802.15A731FB70@newhope.terraplex.com> Message-ID: <1052229179.1414.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> I installed YDL 3.0 last night and tried to get MOL (0.9.68) working. The video configures okay (I have YDL installed on a PowerBook G4-DVI. Resolution should be 1280x854, right?). I configured both molrc.macos and molrc.osx to use my one Mac partition... /dev/hda10. In both files, I specified hda10 as the boot. So when I startmol, I get a "No bootable disk was found!" error. When I startmol -X, it starts up, and I see the OS X spinning wheel. Then mol terminates with no apparent error, just a "cleaning up... terminating threads... DONE." In both cases, MOL displays my drive information correctly. I've tried starting MOL as root, under my user name, from Konsole and virtual terminals, and I cannot get it to work. Is it an issue with having one Mac partition, or does MOL not work with 10.2.5? Thanks for any help. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 6 15:43:29 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (m b) Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 07:43:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Installing YDL 3.0 ia FTP Message-ID: <20030506144329.92977.qmail@web13305.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1067746407-1052232209=:92813 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello Dan, Thanks for the advice. I think I will start with reinitializing the drive. I have no idea how to copy / paste tekst from the Anaconda installer to a Mac / Windows environment (short of writing down everything form screen).I submitted a bugreport on the Terrasoft bug list. http://bugs.terrasoftsolutions.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4 I saw there you were assigned this bug. Btw - the disk is partitioned with HDT and has no Apple drivers. Could this maybe be the problem? I'll let you know. Thanks Marc I think the problem here is that Mandrake does some funky things to the partition map. I've seen several people with YDL install problems during partitioning after they've been using Mandrake. I suggest initializing your drive. Also, providing the error you received would be useful to confirm this. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. --0-1067746407-1052232209=:92813 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Hello Dan,
 
Thanks for the advice. I think I will start with reinitializing the drive. I have no idea how to copy / paste tekst from the Anaconda installer to a Mac / Windows environment (short of writing down everything form screen).
I submitted a bugreport on the Terrasoft bug list.
 
 
I saw there you were assigned this bug. Btw - the disk is partitioned with HDT and has no Apple drivers. Could this maybe be the problem?
 
I'll let you know.
 
Thanks Marc
 
 
 
I think the problem here is that Mandrake does some funky things to the
partition map.  I've seen several people with YDL install problems
during partitioning after they've been using Mandrake. I suggest
initializing your drive.  Also, providing the error you received would
be useful to confirm this.

Do you Yahoo!?
The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. --0-1067746407-1052232209=:92813-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 6 16:00:09 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Philippe SIMONS) Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 17:00:09 +0200 Subject: YDL3.0 - GeForce 4MX - iMac 17" Message-ID: <004001c313e0$3000b2a0$3b48bf8b@SIMONPHXP> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C313F0.F38982A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm trying to install YDL3.0 on my iMac SuperDrive flatscreen 17" .. the installation is ok but definitly the XFree is not working ... On the YDL web site you can now find this information (Hardware secction) * on iMac 17 add: Option "MonitorLayout" "DFP" to the Driver section of your XF86Config file I've tried whitout Success ... Can any one help ? -PhS ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C313F0.F38982A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
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<= /HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C313F0.F38982A0-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 6 16:23:21 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Chris Ruzin) Date: 06 May 2003 10:23:21 -0500 Subject: Pismo trackpad "tap" activation with YDL 3.0? In-Reply-To: <3EB762B9.1030800@cyberianhamster.com> References: <3EB762B9.1030800@cyberianhamster.com> Message-ID: <1052234600.3818.2.camel@Powerbook> You could set the /usr/bin/trackpad tap up as a startup program in your sessions preferences. I haven't actually done this, but I imagine it would work. By the way, I also have YDL on a Pismo PowerBook. YDL runs and looks great on it. On Tue, 2003-05-06 at 02:22, Steve wrote: > I just got my YDL 3.0, and I can't seem to get the trackpad to tap-click > on my Pismo/Firewire Powerbook. Tried using the suggestions for YDL 2.2 at > > http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/support/solutions/ydl_general/mouse_buttons.shtml > > but fiddling with my /etc/sysconfig/mouse doesn't seem to work. > > Another alternative is to tell my system to execute: > > /usr/bin/trackpad tap > > on every startup, but this seems overly complex for a simple and common > feature for laptops (why isn't this configured on the install?). Oddly, > I could use the trackpad to tap for mouse clicks during the install, but > I can't do it AFTER the install. > > Anybody else having similar troubles? > > Steve > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 6 17:24:57 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Daniel Crosby) Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 09:24:57 -0700 Subject: yellowdog-newbie digest, Vol 1 #443 - 13 msgs In-Reply-To: <20030506114801.870861FB30@newhope.terraplex.com> Message-ID: Hmmm, I'm pretty confident it isn't the media... I thought of this and tried re-burning from a different program, and got an identical error. RAM is a possibility, I'll try with each of my RAM chips one at a time, when I get a chance. Thanks... Dan On 5/6/03 4:48 AM, "yellowdog-newbie-request@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com" wrote: > I've done an install on this very machine. Perhaps a media issue? > Try: install mediacheck > > Perhaps bad ram? From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 6 18:14:24 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (mauro) Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 19:14:24 +0200 Subject: yellowdog-newbie digest, Vol 1 #443 - 13 msgs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: well, i did finally found a way to start the graphical installation with anaconda in my ppc 6500, but after the partition, when it start to install the packages i got a "bug" error that drive the installation in a textual black screen, and, due to my unexperience to install linux on macs ( i did it thousand times in a lot of peecee) i couldn't go on.... let me say LOL So, media doesn't matter, and ram too... i'm starting to think that "good luck" does matter...hehehehe best regards Mauro > Hmmm, I'm pretty confident it isn't the media... I thought of this and tried > re-burning from a different program, and got an identical error. RAM is a > possibility, I'll try with each of my RAM chips one at a time, when I get a > chance. > > Thanks... > Dan > > On 5/6/03 4:48 AM, "yellowdog-newbie-request@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com" > wrote: >> I've done an install on this very machine. Perhaps a media issue? >> Try: install mediacheck >> >> Perhaps bad ram? > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 6 19:10:20 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Madhusudan Katti) Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 11:10:20 -0700 Subject: YDL 3.0 - KPPP & Screensavers don't work Message-ID: <1052244619.4800.20.camel@Madlinux> Hi, I had asked about a KPPP issue after installing YDL 3.0 over the weekend, but I was not a subscriber to the lists then, so am not sure if my query got posted or was responded to. I have not seen any response since I subscribed, so here goes again: I am unable to establish a ppp connection with KPPP.It detects the modem correctly, dials out, goes through the initial steps after establishing connection (i.e., the modem goes silent), but then I get Timeout Error with the connection log window stuck at "starting pppd...". The 3-line error log is not very helpful, and has some error code 15, saying the pppd quit after timeout. I've tried increasing the timeout option in the misc. panel to max, but that does not help. I know that my ppp settings are fine because I am able to connect using r-c-n 1.2 as well as the Network Device Control utility in System Tools. They both work fine - and this is how I am sending this email right now. So what gives with KPPP? Another problem: none of the screensavers work! I see a whole long list of modules in the Screensaver preference panel, but nothing happens if I click on any of them - no demo, or test even. Otherwise the screen does go dark after 5 minutes of non-use. That's all so far - everything else seems to be working great, so kudos to the YDL team as far as this newbie is concerned. thanks, Madhu From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 6 21:11:38 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Derick Centeno) Date: 06 May 2003 16:11:38 -0400 Subject: gtk_theme installation Message-ID: <1052251897.1019.70.camel@arakus> Hi There: Since YDL has integrated Gnome and KDE, there must be a way to install new themes properly for this new environment so that they are selectable within either the Control panel or other means. I downloaded something called xliquid I like to try out; it untarred successfully and I've a new directory now where do I put it??? It is a a current modern theme for the new KDE 3.x desktop, so how to install it??? I look forward to a reply... Thanks. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 6 21:08:02 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Katsu Tanda) Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 13:08:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: ppc 6500 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030506200802.39129.qmail@web11403.mail.yahoo.com> Yeah what type of error do you get. I have a umax c500 (basically the same board, the tanzania) and i get a kernel panic: mesh: double dma start! does anyone know if that dma mother board error is fixed on the tanzania2 board? --- René_Mølsted wrote: > I had problems on my B&W G3 - that was bad media. > How far do you get? > > > On tirsdag, maj 6, 2003, at 13:15 Europe/Copenhagen, > mauro wrote: > > > heh, thanks, i yet did it but doesn't work... a > lot of problems with > > bootX > > and yaboot wont work, while vmlinux doesn't reachs > installation cd... > > So, i'm in serious troubles...:) thanks anyway... > > > > Hi > >> You might want to chack out this page: > >> > http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/support/installation/ > >> > >> Rene Molsted > >> > >> > >> > >> On tirsdag, maj 6, 2003, at 13:02 > Europe/Copenhagen, mauro wrote: > >> > >>> Come posso installare YLD 3.0 in un PPC 6500 > 603ev? > >>> Fino ad adesso tutti i tentativi sono > falliti.... > >>> > >>> How could i install YDL 3.0 on a PPC 6500 275 > mhz 603ev? > >>> > >>> Thankx > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> yellowdog-newbie mailing list > >>> yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > >>> > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> yellowdog-newbie mailing list > >> yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > >> > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > > > > _______________________________________________ > > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > > > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 6 21:23:06 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Soriano, Victor John (Vic)) Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 16:23:06 -0400 Subject: MOL won't run full screen Message-ID: <00e501c3140d$4de6d650$a9129c87@odinvjs> All, I'm new to the list, so please don't flame me if I'm asking a question that's already been answered a hundred times (On this note, is there an archive for this list?). I have a PowerMac with YDL installed; the PowerMac has a GeForce4 MX video card. MOL runs fine under X, but I can't get it to run fullscreen. Everytime I run 'molvconfig' (as root), none of the modes work. They don't even test out, I get BAD BAD BAD across the board. However, I'm running X OK at 1600x1200 with 24-bit color. I tried to use 'fbset' from a console to set a video mode in /etc/fb.modes, and none of them other than 640x480-8 work. I'm assuming that molvconfig is trying to use 'fbset' to test the frambuffer modes and nothing is working. Any ideas why I might be having a problem? I'd love to use OS X in fullscreen mode if at all possible. Thanks, Vic From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 6 23:08:22 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Brian McKay) Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 15:08:22 -0700 Subject: YDL 3 video problems Message-ID: <4056A48C-800F-11D7-A3B9-003065704E1E@sbcglobal.net> i couldnt get the gui installer to work and when linux was done installing i cant get any gui to work and am left at the command line. X configurator wount work and says no monitor could be opened or something like that, i have a dual g4 450 with 2x agp radeon 9000 pro mac. my display is a ccd studio 17" from apple connected to the adc port. can anyone help me, ive used linux for 2 semesters in college but have never had to install/setup.... From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 7 04:40:30 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Dan Burcaw) Date: 06 May 2003 21:40:30 -0600 Subject: Bug reporting Message-ID: <1052278829.1388.202.camel@skyfox.terraplex.com> --=-o257eZ3Q7HOZ22+9KgGo Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable By the way, Terra Soft does have a Bugzilla bug tracker for Yellow Dog Linux. If you find bugs, please report them at http://bugs.terrasoftsolutions.com. Thanks, -Dan --=-o257eZ3Q7HOZ22+9KgGo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA+uIAty6BqWf2/qpsRAkUpAJ9nENlyRLg95Hdr3Juy9MgK3wvyxwCeIzrY i1Ph+BfnmWKHj5ojpbR0IPc= =gGtc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-o257eZ3Q7HOZ22+9KgGo-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 7 07:36:59 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Robert D. Nashner) Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 23:36:59 -0700 Subject: USB acm modem help Message-ID: USB Modem and ACM driver Issues (need the fix or an update) System is a PowerMac 7500 with 604 CPU, and has had for a while now a YDL Ver. 2.1 (kernel 2.4.10) installed dual booting with OS 8.6. USB interface is via Keyspan #1045 PCI card; it runs the mice, an Epson C60, and Zoom 2986L 56K modem. For my YDL installation, The usbdevfs uses OHCI v4.0 and ACM module v0.20. All USB devices are built-in now, not modular. Also I made 4 /dev/usb/ttyACM* nodes as the HowTo's advise. Once Linux boots, file /proc/bus/usb/devices has the following modem information: T: Bus=01 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=00 Cnt=01 Dev#= 2 Spd=12 MxCh= 0 D: Ver= 1.00 Cls=02(comm. ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs= 2 P: Vendor=0803 ProdID=9700 Rev= 1.00 S: Manufacturer=Zoom Telephonics, Inc. S: Product=Zoom V90 USB Faxmodem C:* #Ifs= 2 Cfg#= 1 Atr=a0 MxPwr=400mA I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 0 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=ff Driver=(none) I: If#= 1 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=ff Driver=(none) E: Ad=02(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 16 Ivl= 0ms E: Ad=84(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 63 Ivl= 2ms C: #Ifs= 2 Cfg#= 2 Atr=a0 MxPwr=400mA I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=02(comm.) Sub=02 Prot=01 Driver=(none) E: Ad=84(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 32 Ivl=128ms I: If#= 1 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=0a(data ) Sub=02 Prot=01 Driver=(none) E: Ad=02(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl= 0ms E: Ad=86(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl= 0ms Then after boot-up: is the ACM driver installation message in file /var/log/messages is as follows: Apr 24 21:17:15 localhost kernel: usb.c: registered new driver acm Apr 24 21:17:15 localhost kernel: acm.c: v0.20:USB Abstract Control Model driver for USB modems and ISDN adapters After examining source acm.c I know from the log message that the ACM driver got registered; its acm_init() routine printed the above message. But the modem's usb/devices data shows as the current (c:*)configuration, the 1st one with the wrong vendor classes instead of the 2nd with standard looking comm and data interfaces. The acm's acm_probe() routine loops through all the configurations till it finds the right one. It looks OK, like it should have found the 2nd C: line of this modem if called with right device (dev) structure containing good modem data as seen in usb/devices. The 2986L is in the ACM compatability lists. The acm prober has a printk() call which when a compatable modem device is found, displays something like this in the messages log: localhost kernel: usb.c: ttyACM0: USB ACM device But this is never written; instead the message logged in log/dmesg is: usb.c: USB device 2 (vend/prod 0x803/0x9700) is not claimed by any active driver for the modem interfaces, and similarly, all interface drivers for the modem show up in usb/devices as (none) instaed of acm. Two possibilities seem most likely now; either the acm prober never runs - doesn't get called by the file system, or some usb_device structure is passed with device info. from usb/devices other than for the modem. The other drivers blp, hub, & hid get probed and seem to work as expected. I didn't see this issue discussed in the newbie messages archive. The acm prober also has a configuration number probing debug message (not enabled now) which otherwise could tell me if acm_probe() even ran. Before take the trouble to recompile with USB modules, insert more debug messages in the prober to examine I: and E lines, etc. I am asking, is there an driver update or more likely, what YDL Version fixes this?. I will probably upgrade it all to 3.0 eventually; but now I would be satisfied with the earliest version known to solve this problem, or whatever takes the least time to get what I have to work and go on line. Thanks for and additional information or advice RDN From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 7 08:02:02 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Steve) Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 00:02:02 -0700 Subject: Bug reporting In-Reply-To: <1052278829.1388.202.camel@skyfox.terraplex.com> References: <1052278829.1388.202.camel@skyfox.terraplex.com> Message-ID: <3EB8AF6A.4020805@cyberianhamster.com> Is this linked off of http://www.yellowdoglinux.com at all? I couldn't find it on the site when I looked for it, but maybe I missed it. If it isn't, I suggest that you stick a prominent link to it on the Support page. Steve From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 7 11:34:31 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Ventura =?iso-8859-1?q?Valderr=E1bano=20Ornedo?=) Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 12:34:31 +0200 Subject: Keyboard map Message-ID: <200305071234.31889.vvalderrabano@wanadoo.es> Hi @ll. I've a "New Generation" Power Mac. After a succesful install, my Apple's USB keyboard map was wrong. How can I modify for spanish map?. Best regards. Ventura P.S.: I'm writing from my PC (SuSE Linux 8.2 Professional inside). From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 7 13:04:29 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_M=F8lsted?=) Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 14:04:29 +0200 Subject: httpd wont start Message-ID: <0E3B56D7-8084-11D7-A048-00039368D24E@mgraphics.dk> Hi evberybody My peoblem is that httpd wont start proberly due to a SSL error. I'm running YDL 3.0 fully updated (through apt-get). I've checked the ssl_error_log and it seems to be the reasin why it wont start. Does anybody have a solution? Thanks Rene Molsted From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 7 14:07:53 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Jonas Stricker) Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 15:07:53 +0200 Subject: JDK on YDL 3.0 Message-ID: <3EB90529.3080100@br-online.de> Hi there, has anyone of you any experience in using a Java SDK 1.3 or later on YDL 3.0? Hints would be really welcome, I don´t get along with the stuff from Blackdown... Kindest regards, jonas.--- (iBook 900 mHz / YDL 3.0) From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 7 14:55:10 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Suzanne Payne) Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 14:55:10 +0100 Subject: YDL3.0 install on Umax Apus 2000 Message-ID: <36555391.1052319310@beefcake.alcina.org> I appreciate that the Apus 2000 is not officially supported, but I was wondering if anyone could shed light on a little problem. The Umax runs BootX quite happily and I start with the text install. I can get as far as the "Select your Keyboard screen", then no matter what keyboard I select, on the next screen (Installation Method), the machine just doesn't respond to any keystrokes. (except one single space bar entry which will move the cursor from CDROM to NFS Image, then no more) I don't think it's the media as I've used it successfully to install on an iMac. I've tried various BootX combinations, but they all have the same result - crash out on the "Installation Method" screen. Any thoughts would be most welcome. Suzanne From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 7 15:16:36 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_M=F8lsted?=) Date: 07 May 2003 16:16:36 +0200 Subject: httpd wont start - followup In-Reply-To: <0E3B56D7-8084-11D7-A048-00039368D24E@mgraphics.dk> References: <0E3B56D7-8084-11D7-A048-00039368D24E@mgraphics.dk> Message-ID: <1052316996.8864.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> This is a transcript from /etc/httpd/logs/ssl_error_log -- [Wed May 07 16:13:39 2003] [warn] RSA server certificate is a CA certificate (BasicConstraints: CA == TRUE !?) [Wed May 07 16:13:39 2003] [warn] RSA server certificate CommonName (CN) `localhost.localdomain' does NOT match server name!? -- René On Wed, 2003-05-07 at 14:04, René Mølsted wrote: > Hi evberybody > My peoblem is that httpd wont start proberly due to a SSL error. I'm > running YDL 3.0 fully updated (through apt-get). I've checked the > ssl_error_log and it seems to be the reasin why it wont start. > Does anybody have a solution? > > Thanks > Rene Molsted > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 7 15:18:55 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (mauro) Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 16:18:55 +0200 Subject: YDL3.0 install on Umax Apus 2000 In-Reply-To: <36555391.1052319310@beefcake.alcina.org> Message-ID: I think it would be better you start the installation using a previous bootX version as 1.1.3,(search it with google) that works better with oldies.. Then you can choose, (in the boot loader) the kernel version finishing with the world "BOOT"(one of the two founded on the "boot" folder of the install cd) that you previously should have placed on the mac system folder(named Linux Kernels) and check ramdisk.image buton... That should start up the "anaconda" graphic installer that will drive you in a very easy way throug the installation... > I appreciate that the Apus 2000 is not officially supported, but I was > wondering if anyone could shed light on a little problem. The Umax runs > BootX quite happily and I start with the text install. I can get as far as > the "Select your Keyboard screen", then no matter what keyboard I select, > on the next screen (Installation Method), the machine just doesn't respond > to any keystrokes. (except one single space bar entry which will move the > cursor from CDROM to NFS Image, then no more) > > I don't think it's the media as I've used it successfully to install on an > iMac. I've tried various BootX combinations, but they all have the same > result - crash out on the "Installation Method" screen. > > Any thoughts would be most welcome. > > Suzanne > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 7 16:07:23 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Suzanne Payne) Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 16:07:23 +0100 Subject: YDL3.0 install on Umax Apus 2000 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <36815372.1052323643@beefcake.alcina.org> Yay! With No Video checked (otherwise X crashes out) I'm getting a graphical installer...but I get an Exception when I try to format the drive. Booo! And if I try the kernel that doesn't have BOOT at the end, I get the same crashout at "Installation Method". Boooo! Suzanne --On Wednesday, May 7, 2003 4:18 pm +0200 mauro wrote: > I think it would be better you start the installation using a previous > bootX version as 1.1.3,(search it with google) that works better with > oldies.. Then you can choose, (in the boot loader) the kernel version > finishing with the world "BOOT"(one of the two founded on the "boot" > folder of the install cd) that you previously should have placed on the > mac system folder(named Linux Kernels) and check ramdisk.image buton... > That should start up the "anaconda" graphic installer that will drive you > in a very easy way throug the installation... > >> I appreciate that the Apus 2000 is not officially supported, but I was >> wondering if anyone could shed light on a little problem. The Umax runs >> BootX quite happily and I start with the text install. I can get as far >> as the "Select your Keyboard screen", then no matter what keyboard I >> select, on the next screen (Installation Method), the machine just >> doesn't respond to any keystrokes. (except one single space bar entry >> which will move the cursor from CDROM to NFS Image, then no more) From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 7 16:19:50 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Richard Spillane) Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 11:19:50 -0400 Subject: Laptop Crashes on Close Message-ID: <002201c314ac$1a6e42f0$6400a8c0@booboo351> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C3148A.9350BC10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a 2001 Mercury Rev. A G4 PowerBook, and after installing YDL 3.0 = I find that when I try to close the lid the computer shows an = arrangement of scrambled vertical lines on a black backround. I can't = do anything such as kill the X-server or restart the machine (nor do I = know the control sequences to do this on a mac) but it seems as though = the computer stopped responding anyways. What is going on, how can I = fix it? Thanks for any help in advance. ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C3148A.9350BC10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have a 2001 Mercury Rev. A G4 = PowerBook, and=20 after installing YDL 3.0 I find that when I try to close the lid the = computer=20 shows an arrangement of scrambled vertical lines on a black = backround.  I=20 can't do anything such as kill the X-server or restart the machine (nor = do I=20 know the control sequences to do this on a mac) but it seems as though = the=20 computer stopped responding anyways.  What is going on, how can I = fix=20 it?  Thanks for any help in advance.
------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C3148A.9350BC10-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 7 16:45:34 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (mauro) Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 17:45:34 +0200 Subject: YDL3.0 install on Umax Apus 2000 In-Reply-To: <36815372.1052323643@beefcake.alcina.org> Message-ID: I advice you to perform a partition set before to start the installation, giving to the file system (mac extended) a sufficently big size, then create a swap partition, a root partition and a home partition for Linux Powerpc then set the mac system folder as you did before, and start again the installation. The utility used could be Hard Disk Toolkit, the drive setup mac utility isn't that good) When you'll get the window "partions", check the second line button and make a graphical manual partition of the HD as you like... ten go ahead with the installation... good look!!! :))) Mauro (the italian) > Yay! With No Video checked (otherwise X crashes out) I'm getting a > graphical installer...but I get an Exception when I try to format the > drive. Booo! And if I try the kernel that doesn't have BOOT at the end, I > get the same crashout at "Installation Method". Boooo! > > Suzanne > > --On Wednesday, May 7, 2003 4:18 pm +0200 mauro > wrote: > >> I think it would be better you start the installation using a previous >> bootX version as 1.1.3,(search it with google) that works better with >> oldies.. Then you can choose, (in the boot loader) the kernel version >> finishing with the world "BOOT"(one of the two founded on the "boot" >> folder of the install cd) that you previously should have placed on the >> mac system folder(named Linux Kernels) and check ramdisk.image buton... >> That should start up the "anaconda" graphic installer that will drive you >> in a very easy way throug the installation... >> >>> I appreciate that the Apus 2000 is not officially supported, but I was >>> wondering if anyone could shed light on a little problem. The Umax runs >>> BootX quite happily and I start with the text install. I can get as far >>> as the "Select your Keyboard screen", then no matter what keyboard I >>> select, on the next screen (Installation Method), the machine just >>> doesn't respond to any keystrokes. (except one single space bar entry >>> which will move the cursor from CDROM to NFS Image, then no more) > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 7 17:44:02 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (David Waite) Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 17:44:02 +0100 Subject: YDL 3.0 install on 15" iLamp Message-ID: <1C0EE6F4-80AB-11D7-B602-000393967FBC@mac.com> According to the YDL hardware suport page the Imac 15" 2002 iLamp is supported in everything but the modem which is "unknown". It also states that "all information contained on this page is based upon the latest release of Yellow Dog Linux..." The reason i quote this is because i recently tried to install YDL 3.0 to the afore mentioned machine.The only problem i had was that the GUI Anaconda installer doesn't seem to work on my machine & after the install.I tried configuring the monitor as it didn't recognise it during the install but still no joy & as i'm a newbie i much prefer a GUI compared to command line!!!.The easist way to put it is that it's like a terrible tv picture - all wavy lines & what not!!I CAN HARDLY MAKE IT OUT!! I previously tried YDL 2.3 with no problems so i'm at loss as to why this doesn't work especially going with the website. I've also tried Mandrake 9.1 recently bit i can't seem to get sound when i try to play cd's even though i get sound from keys being pressed & such like.This was the main reason i tried YDL again as its purely a PPC distro... Anybody with the same problems.....? From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 7 18:00:29 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Tom Fowler) Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 13:00:29 -0400 Subject: [Fwd: Re: can I get my Apple_partition_map partition back?] In-Reply-To: <1051766389.1302.45.camel@skyfox.terraplex.com> Message-ID: <67F7743D-80AD-11D7-BBA3-000393B8A2C6@mac.com> Dan, Is there a way to prevent this bug from happening with a fresh install? I have already been a victim once, and before I read your solution, I had to reformat and re-install OS X. I would like to try again, but do not have the nerve to loose my stuff again after restoring from backups (about a day long job). If I removed all drives from the system except for the one I want to install yellowdog on? Would that prevent the error? Probably not if it sets the wrong label on the drive it installs too. Thanks in advance, Tom Fowler tomfowler@mac.com On Thursday, May 1, 2003, at 01:19 AM, Dan Burcaw wrote: > This is in reference to a problem brought up on yellowdog-general. > > > From: Dan Burcaw > Date: Thu May 1, 2003 12:51:57 AM US/Eastern > To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > Subject: Re: can I get my Apple_partition_map partition back? > Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > > > I've updated 'pdisk' to be able to easily fix the Apple_partition_map > issue. Again, this issue seems to only occur on machines with two hard > disks. Mac OS 9 or OS X may not boot because of this problem. The gist > is that the first partition of your (likely second hard drive) has the > 'boot' flag toggled. As a result, it is labled with the partition type > "Apple_Bootstrap" instead of "Apple_partition_map". This is due to a > big in Anaconda, the Yellow Dog installer and the Parted partition > program that it uses. It will be fixed in future ISO revisions of > Yellow Dog Linux 3.0, and future releases. > > > Follow the simple instructions below to fix the problem. You will > need to know what Linux device the drive affected is. E.g. /dev/hdb > > (Note: the following instructions assume you are logged in as > super-user.) > > 1) Type: /sbin/pdisk -l > (e.g. /dev/hdb) > > If pdisk reports partition #1 having a type of "Apple_Bootstrap", > please proceed to step two. Otherwise, verify that you have > provided > the correct hard drive device and try step one again. > > 2) Download the pdisk update at: > http://stage.terraplex.com/~dburcaw/pdisk-0.8-3a.ppc.rpm > > I've also pushed this update to the YDL 3.0 updates directory > so it should be available there soon (and via apt & yum.. although > apt may still be giving folks a problem.. fixes pending). > > 3) Install the pdisk update by typing:: > rpm -Uvh pdisk-0.8-3a.ppc.rpm > > 4) Type: /sbin/pdisk > > 5) At the pdisk prompt type 'p'. > Example output: > > Command (? for help): > > Partition map (with 512 byte blocks) on '/dev/hdb' > #: type name length base ( size ) > 1: Apple_Bootstrap untitled 63 @ 1 > 2: Apple_UNIX_SVR4 unitiled 11076123 @ 64 ( 5.3G) > > Device block size=512, Number of Blocks=11076183 (5.3G) > DeviceType=0x0, DeviceID=0x0 > > > Again, you should see that partition '1' has the incorrect > "Apple_bootstrap" type. > > 6) To fix this issue, type 't' at the pdisk prompt. > This option does NOT touch your partition data. It merely > relabels the partition type. > > Command (? help): t > > 7) You will be prompted to enter a partition number, type '1'. > > Partition number: 1 > > 8) You will be prompted to enter the new partition type, > be sure to type "Apple_partition_map" exactly as shown, > without quotes. > > New partition type: Apple_partition_map > > 9) Back at the pdisk prompt, type 'p', to make sure partition '1' > is now properly labeled "Apple_partition_map" with that exact case > and spelling. > > 10) Save your changes with the 'w' option. > > Command (? help): w > Writing the map destroys what was there before. Is that okay? > [n/y]:y > pdisk: Re-read of partition table failed (Device or resource busy) > Reboot your system to ensure the partition table i updated. > > 11) Quit pdisk to finish. > > Command (? for help): q > [root@localhost root]# > > > At this point you should be all good to go. The 'parted' utility, > which > broke like Mac OS X, due to this bug, should now work if you type: > > /sbin/parted print > > Also, Mac OS X should now boot as expected. > > > Regards, > Dan > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-general mailing list > yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general > > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 7 20:04:05 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (S.M.Kelly) Date: 07 May 2003 15:04:05 -0400 Subject: Laptop Crashes on Close In-Reply-To: <002201c314ac$1a6e42f0$6400a8c0@booboo351> References: <002201c314ac$1a6e42f0$6400a8c0@booboo351> Message-ID: <1052334245.1180.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> --=-uNFZu3aVvgEDLDSt55uF Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I also am having the same problem. It seems the sleep mode is kind of hit or miss. Usually miss. If anybody knows the solution, I'm all ears! I have a 2001 TiBook. Sean M. Kelly ========================= SMKSensei@Mac.com "A Windows professional who uses a Mac running Linux" On Wed, 2003-05-07 at 11:19, Richard Spillane wrote: > I have a 2001 Mercury Rev. A G4 PowerBook, and after installing YDL > 3.0 I find that when I try to close the lid the computer shows an > arrangement of scrambled vertical lines on a black backround. I can't > do anything such as kill the X-server or restart the machine (nor do I > know the control sequences to do this on a mac) but it seems as though > the computer stopped responding anyways. What is going on, how can I > fix it? Thanks for any help in advance. --=-uNFZu3aVvgEDLDSt55uF Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I also am having the same problem.  It seems the sleep mode is kind of hit or miss.  Usually miss.  If anybody knows the solution, I'm all ears! I have a 2001 TiBook. 

Sean M. Kelly
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SMKSensei@Mac.com
"A Windows professional who uses a Mac running Linux"



On Wed, 2003-05-07 at 11:19, Richard Spillane wrote:
I have a 2001 Mercury Rev. A G4 PowerBook, and after installing YDL 3.0 I find that when I try to close the lid the computer shows an arrangement of scrambled vertical lines on a black backround.  I can't do anything such as kill the X-server or restart the machine (nor do I know the control sequences to do this on a mac) but it seems as though the computer stopped responding anyways.  What is going on, how can I fix it?  Thanks for any help in advance.
--=-uNFZu3aVvgEDLDSt55uF-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 7 23:36:50 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Robert D. Nashner) Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 15:36:50 -0700 Subject: USB ACM Modem Help Message-ID: USB Modem and ACM driver Issues (need the fix or an update) THIS IS SAME HELP REQUEST YESTERDAY WITH INTERNAL WRAPPING OFF TO TRY TO MAKE MORE READABLE System is a PowerMac 7500 with 604 CPU, and has had for a while now a YDL Ver. 2.1 (kernel 2.4.10) installed dual booting with OS 8.6. USB interface is via Keyspan #1045 PCI card; it runs the mice, an Epson C60, and Zoom 2986L 56K modem. For my YDL installation, The usbdevfs uses OHCI v4.0 and ACM module v0.20. All USB devices are built-in now, not modular. Also I made 4 /dev/usb/ttyACM* nodes as the HowTo's advise. Once Linux boots, file /proc/bus/usb/devices has the following modem information: T: Bus=01 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=00 Cnt=01 Dev#= 2 Spd=12 MxCh= 0 D: Ver= 1.00 Cls=02(comm. ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs= 2 P: Vendor=0803 ProdID=9700 Rev= 1.00 S: Manufacturer=Zoom Telephonics, Inc. S: Product=Zoom V90 USB Faxmodem C:* #Ifs= 2 Cfg#= 1 Atr=a0 MxPwr=400mA I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 0 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=ff Driver=(none) I: If#= 1 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=ff Driver=(none) E: Ad=02(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 16 Ivl= 0ms E: Ad=84(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 63 Ivl= 2ms C: #Ifs= 2 Cfg#= 2 Atr=a0 MxPwr=400mA I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=02(comm.) Sub=02 Prot=01 Driver=(none) E: Ad=84(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 32 Ivl=128ms I: If#= 1 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=0a(data ) Sub=02 Prot=01 Driver=(none) E: Ad=02(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl= 0ms E: Ad=86(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl= 0ms Then after boot-up: the ACM driver installation message in file /var/log/messages is as follows: Apr 24 21:17:15 localhost kernel: usb.c: registered new driver acm Apr 24 21:17:15 localhost kernel: acm.c: v0.20:USB Abstract Control Model driver for USB modems and ISDN adapters After examining source acm.c I know from the log message that the ACM driver got registered; its acm_init() routine printed the above message. But the modem's usb/devices data shows as the current (c:*)configuration, the 1st one with the wrong vendor classes instead of the 2nd with standard looking comm and data interfaces. The acm's acm_probe() routine loops through all the configurations till it finds the right one. It looks OK, like it should have found the 2nd C: line of this modem if called with right device (dev) structure containing good modem data as seen in usb/devices. The 2986L is in the ACM compatability lists. The acm prober has a printk() call which when a compatable modem device is found, displays something like this in the messages log: localhost kernel: usb.c: ttyACM0: USB ACM device But this is never written; instead the message logged in log/dmesg is: usb.c: USB device 2 (vend/prod 0x803/0x9700) is not claimed by any active driver for the modem interfaces, and similarly, all interface drivers for the modem show up in usb/devices as (none) instaed of acm. Two possibilities seem most likely now; either the acm prober never runs - doesn't get called by the file system, or some usb_device structure is passed with device info. from usb/devices other than for the modem. The other drivers blp, hub, & hid get probed and seem to work as expected. I didn't see this issue discussed in the newbie messages archive. The acm prober also has a configuration number probing debug message (not enabled now) which otherwise could tell me if acm_probe() even ran. Before take the trouble to recompile with USB modules, insert more debug messages in the prober to examine I: and E lines, etc. I am asking, is there an driver update or more likely, what YDL Version fixes this?. I will probably upgrade it all to 3.0 eventually; but now I would be satisfied with the earliest version known to solve this problem, or whatever takes the least time to get what I have to work and go on line. Thanks for and additional information or advice RDN From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 8 01:04:50 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Nils Crompton) Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 10:04:50 +1000 Subject: Sound problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I get exactly the same thing but it is inter,mittent. Sometimes it does work??? On Monday, May 5, 2003, at 08:53 PM, Paolo G. Cordone wrote: > I have a question regarding YDL 3.0 > When I log in as my ordinary user account, the sound driver for some > reason does not load, so I get no startup up sound effects, nor > anything once I am in. > If I log in as root, everything works as expected. I don't recall > changing any settings after creating the ordinary user account. > Where should I look, in order to find what is going on? From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 8 05:30:02 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Austin Miller) Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 00:30:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Login problem Message-ID: <20030508043002.787431E421@xmxpita.excite.com> Hi. I'm a brand new linux user and I'm having problems logging in. When I try to log in I enter my username, press enter, and then I can't enter my password. Whatever I do, it doesn't show the *'s or anything. The install went fine and the keyboard seems to work fine. My Computer: 1998 iMac 233Mhz G3 4GB Hard Drive. Thanks, any help will be appreciated. _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 8 06:10:37 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (John) Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 15:10:37 +1000 Subject: I've got YellowDog installed -- where is Xconfigurator Message-ID: I've successfully installed Yellow Dog Linux 3 on a lamp-type iMac. Everything worked OK until I started messing with the display settings. I chose a display setting that made the monitor unusable -- and I was completely stuck. Research told me that I could configure the XWindows system with something called Xconfigurator. This was not installed with YD, and when I got into text mode, I couldn't fix the monitor problem. In the end I was so stuck I gave up and reinstalled. I've since found an RPM file for Xconfigurator, and I've downloaded it and done an rpm -i xconfigfilename.rpm, which didn't give me any error messages, but still, when I type Xconfigurator, I get nothing. So, a few questions: Where did I go wrong, and how could I have fixed this monitor problem? As YD boots up for me automatically into Graphic Mode, how would I over-ride this on a future boot? As it is, I used shift-alt-F2 to go into text mode, but with xwindows still running as well. Should I have Xconfigurator? Is that the right command for installing it? For running it? Would it, if I had managed to run it, have allowed me to fix my monitor problem? And finally, the reason I was messing with monitor settings is because the monitor is behaving weirdly -- it's wrapped around, just a little, so that the far right portion of the monitor, about 5%, is appearing over on the left. It's a small thing but very irritating. Any ideas why this would be happening? How to fix it? -- ------------------------------------------------------------ John Horner (+612 / 02) 9333 2110 Senior Developer, ABC Online http://abc.net.au/ ------------------------------------------------------------ From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 8 06:43:53 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Richard Spillane) Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 01:43:53 -0400 Subject: Laptop problem persists Message-ID: <003801c31524$cf5e8530$6400a8c0@booboo351> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C31503.481AD8B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK, so I have tried to do some research but have found nothing, and have = tried to reach the YDL irc server and posted on the mailing list, but no = response. I emplore anyone who can help to tell me why my laptop will = not sleep successfully. I run a G4 Mercury Rev. 2001 G4 Laptop. When I = try to sleep the computer, or close the lid, it won't wake, and the = X-server (if it sleeps while the X-server is the active tty) will render = streaking vertical lines on an all black backdrop, and do nothing else. = Any ideas as to why its doing this, and if and how I can fix it? ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C31503.481AD8B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
OK, so I have tried to do some research = but have=20 found nothing, and have tried to reach the YDL irc server and posted on = the=20 mailing list, but no response.  I emplore anyone who can help to = tell me=20 why my laptop will not sleep successfully.  I run a G4 Mercury Rev. = 2001 G4=20 Laptop.  When I try to sleep the computer, or close the lid, it = won't wake,=20 and the X-server (if it sleeps while the X-server is the active tty) = will render=20 streaking vertical lines on an all black backdrop, and do nothing = else. =20 Any ideas as to why its doing this, and if and how I can fix=20 it?
------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C31503.481AD8B0-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 8 08:27:50 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Jonas Stricker) Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 09:27:50 +0200 Subject: Login problem In-Reply-To: <20030508043002.787431E421@xmxpita.excite.com> References: <20030508043002.787431E421@xmxpita.excite.com> Message-ID: <3EBA06F6.2020904@br-online.de> Hi Austin! This is no malfunction. Linux (as most other Unices) simply doesn´t show you *s while entering your password. That´s a feature, not a bug. So no one can see how many characters your password has. Simply press enter after typing in your pw and you´re in! Have fun! :) jonas.--- Austin Miller schrieb: > Hi. I'm a brand new linux user and I'm having problems logging in. When I try to log in I enter my username, press enter, and then I can't enter my password. Whatever I do, it doesn't show the *'s or anything. The install went fine and the keyboard seems to work fine. My Computer: 1998 iMac 233Mhz G3 4GB Hard Drive. Thanks, any help will be appreciated. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 8 10:33:07 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_M=F8lsted?=) Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 11:33:07 +0200 Subject: Access HFS formated hard drive from CLI? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1396CED1-8138-11D7-A698-00039368D24E@mgraphics.dk> How do i access my HFS formated hard drive with Mac OS 9 installed) remotely from my SSH session? Rene Molsted From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 8 10:53:33 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Silicon Info Solutions) Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 15:23:33 +0530 Subject: C-Media CMi8738 Sound Ccard initialisation error Message-ID: <000801c31547$cbca4d00$0164a8c0@sis> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_AaZGCIcayPF0T/mQvocn+A) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I have Red Hat Linux 7.3 & C-Media CMi8738 Sound card, I get the following error while kde Starts & I can't hear any sound. Sound server informational message: Error while initializing the sound driver: device /dev/dsp can't be opened (No such device) The sound server will continue, using the null output device. Please help. Roy --Boundary_(ID_AaZGCIcayPF0T/mQvocn+A) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
I have Red Hat Linux 7.3 & C-Media CMi8738 Sound card, I get the following error while kde Starts & I can't hear any sound.
 
Sound server informational message: Error while initializing the sound driver: device /dev/dsp can't be opened (No such device) The sound server will continue, using the null output device.
 
Please help.
 
Roy
--Boundary_(ID_AaZGCIcayPF0T/mQvocn+A)-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 8 11:25:53 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_M=F8lsted?=) Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 12:25:53 +0200 Subject: Access HFS formated hard drive from CLI? In-Reply-To: <1396CED1-8138-11D7-A698-00039368D24E@mgraphics.dk> Message-ID: <7267BE93-813F-11D7-A698-00039368D24E@mgraphics.dk> Being a HFS+ formated drive. 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Best Regards EDO LAURENT KABILA (Jnr) REPLY EMAIL: edokabila60netscape.net --ba64c2b4-50c5-4987-8c4e-729d8def5ac2-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 8 17:40:30 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Soriano, Victor John (Vic)) Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 12:40:30 -0400 Subject: Kickstart? Message-ID: <00ce01c31580$89cbd520$a9129c87@odinvjs> Is there anything like the RedHat Kickstart Configurator for YDL? I'd like to install groups of packages without having to re-install the OS or install packages one by one, if possible. Thanks, Vic From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 8 17:50:40 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (nathan r. hruby) Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 12:50:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Kickstart? In-Reply-To: <00ce01c31580$89cbd520$a9129c87@odinvjs> Message-ID: On Thu, 8 May 2003, Soriano, Victor John (Vic) wrote: > Is there anything like the RedHat Kickstart Configurator for YDL? I'd like > to install groups of packages without having to re-install the OS or install > packages one by one, if possible. > There is experimental support for this in recent versions of YUM, which has been shipping with YDL-3.0, but the shhipped version does not have this support and I don't think the YDL yum archives have grouplists in them. As a quickie solution you can use "yum install package1 package2" and yum will handle all the dependacies for you, which should make your life a bit eaasier. For instance "yum install evolution" should make sure you have all the needed X, gnome, etc.. packages. This may get you where you need to be. -n -- ---------------------------------------- nathan hruby computer services specialist uga drama & theatre reality is a moving target ---------------------------------------- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 8 17:59:02 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (nathan r. hruby) Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 12:59:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Kickstart? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Duh.. YDL-3.0 also uses the redhat installer, so in theory theory could use the standard redhat kickstart stuff, though I'm not sure if 3.0 has support for that. -n On Thu, 8 May 2003, nathan r. hruby wrote: > On Thu, 8 May 2003, Soriano, Victor John (Vic) wrote: > > > Is there anything like the RedHat Kickstart Configurator for YDL? I'd like > > to install groups of packages without having to re-install the OS or install > > packages one by one, if possible. > > > > There is experimental support for this in recent versions of YUM, which > has been shipping with YDL-3.0, but the shhipped version does not have > this support and I don't think the YDL yum archives have grouplists in > them. > > As a quickie solution you can use "yum install package1 package2" and yum > will handle all the dependacies for you, which should make your life a bit > eaasier. For instance "yum install evolution" should make sure you have > all the needed X, gnome, etc.. packages. 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From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 9 16:00:55 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Ventura =?iso-8859-1?q?Valderr=E1bano=20Ornedo?=) Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 17:00:55 +0200 Subject: OS X & YDL 3.0 Message-ID: <200305091700.55839.vvalderrabano@wanadoo.es> Hi @ll. I've a Power Mac G4 "Quicksilver" with 2 hard drives. "Master" for YDL and "slave" for MacOS X. OSX was installed first and Yaboot can't detect OSX partition. I've changed the "Apple_partition_map" solution yet. Any sugestions?. Best regards. Ventura From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 9 16:52:58 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Marc Stergionis) Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 09:52:58 -0600 Subject: Install hang Message-ID: YDL 3 was installing beautifully, till a little after I inserted Disk 3. Then it just hangs at XFree86-tools. Yesterday, it also hung on Disk 3, but I don't remember what file. PM 8600, 288MB RAM, Linux partition = 3.7G. I was installing the Workstation setup. Any ideas what's going wrong? ... there are no error messages or anything. -ms -- Many have Montana envy ... the lucky get to live here! Marc Stergionis Communications/Web Specialist Benefis Healthcare http://www.benefis.org "Opinions expressed are not necessarily those of my employer." From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 9 18:30:31 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Hanz Harz) Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 17:30:31 +0000 Subject: three partitions two ATA controllers boot problem Message-ID: Hello all I just installed my new YDL 3 distro....as a complete newbie actually it went like a charm, the bug with more then 2 hard disc was touched immediately on the website so my problem with booting was gone too. Having two hard discs in a G3 350 B&W Rev 1 with the bad ATA controller on board i had to buy a second Tempo66 card (also known as ACARD) to install an extra disc I have on one disc OSX and Linux, on the other Disc ive installed the Classic OS, i was wondering how do i tell yaboot that "/dev/hdg6" its on a different device?! A short Note I tried Mandrake 9.1 and SuSe ftp install they all failed on this particular machine with my attached hardware, at work all with G4's SuSe and mandrake functioned fine and booted into installer. At home YDL was the only one capable of recognizing my Advansys scsci card and having no problems with the extra Tempo66..so thumb up for Yellow Dog My yaboot.conf: boot=/dev/hda10 device=/pci@80000000/pci-bridge@d/pci-ata@1/@0/disk@0: init-message="Welcome to Yellow Dog Linux!\nHit for boot options.\n\n" partition=11 timeout=30 install=/usr/lib/yaboot/yaboot magicboot=/usr/lib/yaboot/ofboot default=linux image=/boot/vmlinux-2.4.20-8d label=linux root=/dev/hda11 read-only initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.20-8d.img macosx=/dev/hda9 macos=/dev/hdg6 <-- this partition is on a different pci controller how do i tell yaboot this?? defaultos=linux delay=10 _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 9 18:44:33 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (mauro) Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 19:44:33 +0200 Subject: three partitions two ATA controllers boot problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ithink yaboot isn't the best way to instal YDL... it is better (in my opinion) start with vmlinux kernel, with the ramimage checked... it will drive you with anaconda that usually recognize the partitions and the disks... > Hello all > > I just installed my new YDL 3 distro....as a complete newbie actually it > went like a charm, the bug with more then 2 hard disc was touched > immediately on the website so my problem with booting was gone too. > > Having two hard discs in a G3 350 B&W Rev 1 with the bad ATA controller on > board i had to buy a second Tempo66 card (also known as ACARD) to install an > extra disc > > I have on one disc OSX and Linux, on the other Disc ive installed the > Classic OS, i was wondering how do i tell yaboot that "/dev/hdg6" its on a > different device?! > > A short Note > I tried Mandrake 9.1 and SuSe ftp install they all failed on this particular > machine with my attached hardware, at work all with G4's SuSe and mandrake > functioned fine and booted into installer. At home YDL was the only one > capable of recognizing my Advansys scsci card and having no problems with > the extra Tempo66..so thumb up for Yellow Dog > > My yaboot.conf: > boot=/dev/hda10 > device=/pci@80000000/pci-bridge@d/pci-ata@1/@0/disk@0: > init-message="Welcome to Yellow Dog Linux!\nHit for boot options.\n\n" > partition=11 > timeout=30 > install=/usr/lib/yaboot/yaboot > magicboot=/usr/lib/yaboot/ofboot > default=linux > > image=/boot/vmlinux-2.4.20-8d > label=linux > root=/dev/hda11 > read-only > initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.20-8d.img > > macosx=/dev/hda9 > macos=/dev/hdg6 <-- this partition is on a different pci controller how do i > tell yaboot this?? > defaultos=linux > delay=10 > > _________________________________________________________________ > Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 9 19:48:42 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Randy Sorenson) Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 14:48:42 -0400 Subject: Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root Message-ID: <001401c3165b$9d09dc50$7a02a8c0@ip149> I have been trying for several days to install YDL 3.0 on my G3 Beige tower. I tried several different ways and get the same error everytime. Both using OS 8.6 and OS 9.2 using BootX Goes through the installer fine, I used the automatic partitioning which shows the root partition, swap, usr, home don't see a boot partition... do I need to add that to the list? Where it fails is when it gets to: adb: starting probe task... kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k block-major-8, errno = 2 VFS: Cannot open root device "sdax or 08:09 Please append a correct "root=" boot option Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 08:09 What could be the problem? I installed 2.0 which mostly worked... at least I was able to get to a command line. Any help would be greatly appreciated. New to it all Thanks for any help RS From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 9 20:07:44 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Richard Spillane) Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 15:07:44 -0400 Subject: Power Management? In-Reply-To: <20030508180106.370251FBC7@newhope.terraplex.com> Message-ID: <000001c3165e$485f06f0$6400a8c0@booboo351> OK, so people can't figure out how to get my G4 TiBook to sleep correctly, I did a little experimentation and found it can sometimes sleep in terminal mode, but not necessarily for long durations. It could be related to the lid closing, but either way I've given up on it. I like the other aspects of YD, so I'm not giving up on it, but I would like to turn suspension off so I can manually engage it if I want. (After a period of time it sleeps, I'd like to get rid of that "feature"). Any ideas or answers? From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 9 20:15:04 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (mauro) Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 21:15:04 +0200 Subject: Power Management? In-Reply-To: <000001c3165e$485f06f0$6400a8c0@booboo351> Message-ID: Hey! That seems a real bug! So why don't post it on the YDL site? Maybe someone has yet ready a patch to fix the problem... Otherways it'll be hard to find a solution in a "newbies" forum...hehe > OK, so people can't figure out how to get my G4 TiBook to sleep > correctly, I did a little experimentation and found it can sometimes > sleep in terminal mode, but not necessarily for long durations. It > could be related to the lid closing, but either way I've given up on it. > I like the other aspects of YD, so I'm not giving up on it, but I would > like to turn suspension off so I can manually engage it if I want. > (After a period of time it sleeps, I'd like to get rid of that > "feature"). Any ideas or answers? > > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 9 20:35:01 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (mauro) Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 21:35:01 +0200 Subject: Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root In-Reply-To: <001401c3165b$9d09dc50$7a02a8c0@ip149> Message-ID: well, as i yet told before, it is better to install using bootX but with th= e vmlinux kernel finishing with the word "BOOT" and with the ramdisk image checked, then the graphical installer anaconda will do your job easily... It is IMPORTANT, on the old puters, use a BootX version such as the 1.1.3, that you can easily reach on the web searching with google/linux.com, and i= t is advice to make a basical partition first of all, better with an utility as HDT, in that way: first partition =3D macos extended (at least 1,5 GB) second =3D root (maybe 2 GB) third =3D swap (128/256 MB) fourth =3D home ( all th= e free space). Then, do a basical installation in the Mac part. (OS 9, better if with tcp/ip, apple talk and netcard active) then set up the bootx and all the required files as in the manual (BootX.app in control Panel, =80BootX.extension in extension folder, ramdiskimage.gz in the system folder and place the foler LinuxKernels in system folder with inside the two vmlinux and yaboot kernels. Now you can put the first cd in the reader, restart and boot using the vmlinux kernel finishing with the word "BOOT", with the ramdisk checked following all the instrutions... lemme know... and good look:) =20 > I have been trying for several days to install YDL 3.0 on my G3 Beige tow= er. > I tried several different ways and get the same error everytime. Both usi= ng > OS 8.6 and OS 9.2 using BootX > Goes through the installer fine, I used the automatic partitioning which > shows the root partition, swap, usr, home don't see a boot partition.= .. > do I need to add that to the list? >=20 > Where it fails is when it gets to: >=20 > adb: starting probe task... > kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k block-major-8, errno =3D 2 > VFS: Cannot open root device "sdax or 08:09 > Please append a correct "root=3D" boot option > Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 08:09 >=20 > What could be the problem? I installed 2.0 which mostly worked... at leas= t I > was able to get to a command line. >=20 > Any help would be greatly appreciated. >=20 > New to it all > Thanks for any help > RS >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 9 20:37:13 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Hanz Harz) Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 19:37:13 +0000 Subject: three partitions two ATA controllers boot problem Message-ID: be it yaboot or with anaconda how do i select in anaconda the disk? Thanks for you help >From: mauro >Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >To: >Subject: Re: three partitions two ATA controllers boot problem >Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 19:44:33 +0200 > >Ithink yaboot isn't the best way to instal YDL... it is better (in my >opinion) start with vmlinux kernel, with the ramimage checked... it will >drive you with anaconda that usually recognize the partitions and the >disks... > > Hello all > > > > I just installed my new YDL 3 distro....as a complete newbie actually it > > went like a charm, the bug with more then 2 hard disc was touched > > immediately on the website so my problem with booting was gone too. > > > > Having two hard discs in a G3 350 B&W Rev 1 with the bad ATA controller >on > > board i had to buy a second Tempo66 card (also known as ACARD) to >install an > > extra disc > > > > I have on one disc OSX and Linux, on the other Disc ive installed the > > Classic OS, i was wondering how do i tell yaboot that "/dev/hdg6" its on >a > > different device?! > > > > A short Note > > I tried Mandrake 9.1 and SuSe ftp install they all failed on this >particular > > machine with my attached hardware, at work all with G4's SuSe and >mandrake > > functioned fine and booted into installer. At home YDL was the only one > > capable of recognizing my Advansys scsci card and having no problems >with > > the extra Tempo66..so thumb up for Yellow Dog > > > > My yaboot.conf: > > boot=/dev/hda10 > > device=/pci@80000000/pci-bridge@d/pci-ata@1/@0/disk@0: > > init-message="Welcome to Yellow Dog Linux!\nHit for boot >options.\n\n" > > partition=11 > > timeout=30 > > install=/usr/lib/yaboot/yaboot > > magicboot=/usr/lib/yaboot/ofboot > > default=linux > > > > image=/boot/vmlinux-2.4.20-8d > > label=linux > > root=/dev/hda11 > > read-only > > initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.20-8d.img > > > > macosx=/dev/hda9 > > macos=/dev/hdg6 <-- this partition is on a different pci controller how >do i > > tell yaboot this?? > > defaultos=linux > > delay=10 > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > _______________________________________________ > > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > >_______________________________________________ >yellowdog-newbie mailing list >yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 9 20:40:16 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Hanz Harz) Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 19:40:16 +0000 Subject: return to castle wolfenstein anyone one able to install with ydl? Message-ID: Hello all Is it possible to install RtCW for linux on an YDL box? i know the package is called.."x86" does that mean it wont run on PPC...isnt linux universal.....? i hope it runs..if it does i will buy me those copies of YDL.! and support them Any game support forums specific for ydl? I really hope to run the ET expansion pack for RtCW! Regards Hans Peeters _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 9 20:46:57 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (mauro) Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 21:46:57 +0200 Subject: three partitions two ATA controllers boot problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: going on you should find a window that ask to you to partition and choose the mount point... chek it... anyway, install this version of YDL on a relative old mac isn't really that easy... should be different with the new puters, 'cause in my opinion they did it for the latest CPU... i never had such a problem with earlier version of YDL... > be it yaboot or with anaconda how do i select in anaconda the disk? > > Thanks for you help > > >> From: mauro >> Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >> To: >> Subject: Re: three partitions two ATA controllers boot problem >> Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 19:44:33 +0200 >> >> Ithink yaboot isn't the best way to instal YDL... it is better (in my >> opinion) start with vmlinux kernel, with the ramimage checked... it will >> drive you with anaconda that usually recognize the partitions and the >> disks... >>> Hello all >>> >>> I just installed my new YDL 3 distro....as a complete newbie actually it >>> went like a charm, the bug with more then 2 hard disc was touched >>> immediately on the website so my problem with booting was gone too. >>> >>> Having two hard discs in a G3 350 B&W Rev 1 with the bad ATA controller >> on >>> board i had to buy a second Tempo66 card (also known as ACARD) to >> install an >>> extra disc >>> >>> I have on one disc OSX and Linux, on the other Disc ive installed the >>> Classic OS, i was wondering how do i tell yaboot that "/dev/hdg6" its on >> a >>> different device?! >>> >>> A short Note >>> I tried Mandrake 9.1 and SuSe ftp install they all failed on this >> particular >>> machine with my attached hardware, at work all with G4's SuSe and >> mandrake >>> functioned fine and booted into installer. At home YDL was the only one >>> capable of recognizing my Advansys scsci card and having no problems >> with >>> the extra Tempo66..so thumb up for Yellow Dog >>> >>> My yaboot.conf: >>> boot=/dev/hda10 >>> device=/pci@80000000/pci-bridge@d/pci-ata@1/@0/disk@0: >>> init-message="Welcome to Yellow Dog Linux!\nHit for boot >> options.\n\n" >>> partition=11 >>> timeout=30 >>> install=/usr/lib/yaboot/yaboot >>> magicboot=/usr/lib/yaboot/ofboot >>> default=linux >>> >>> image=/boot/vmlinux-2.4.20-8d >>> label=linux >>> root=/dev/hda11 >>> read-only >>> initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.20-8d.img >>> >>> macosx=/dev/hda9 >>> macos=/dev/hdg6 <-- this partition is on a different pci controller how >> do i >>> tell yaboot this?? >>> defaultos=linux >>> delay=10 >>> >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. >>> http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> yellowdog-newbie mailing list >>> yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >>> http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie >> >> _______________________________________________ >> yellowdog-newbie mailing list >> yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >> http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > > _________________________________________________________________ > Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 9 20:50:35 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (mauro) Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 21:50:35 +0200 Subject: return to castle wolfenstein anyone one able to install with ydl? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Linux for PPC has different packages... it'll be much better you use the mac version game on MOL... it is fast and stable... > Hello all > > Is it possible to install RtCW for linux on an YDL box? i know the package > is called.."x86" does that mean it wont run on PPC...isnt linux > universal.....? i hope it runs..if it does i will buy me those copies of > YDL.! and support them > > Any game support forums specific for ydl? > I really hope to run the ET expansion pack for RtCW! > > Regards Hans Peeters > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 9 20:59:49 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Hanz Harz) Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 19:59:49 +0000 Subject: return to castle wolfenstein anyone one able to install withydl? Message-ID: Dear Mauro There might never be a a mac release for Enemy Territory... for mac, ID software is losing support for the mac platform...my hope was installing linux would give me the chance to run this new update. Yet installing seams rather hard what i read from the several info i find on the internet. To bad its a great game....maybe on of the best team based games outthere >From: mauro >Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >To: >Subject: Re: return to castle wolfenstein anyone one able to install >withydl? >Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 21:50:35 +0200 > >Linux for PPC has different packages... it'll be much better you use the >mac >version game on MOL... it is fast and stable... > > Hello all > > > > Is it possible to install RtCW for linux on an YDL box? i know the >package > > is called.."x86" does that mean it wont run on PPC...isnt linux > > universal.....? i hope it runs..if it does i will buy me those copies of > > YDL.! and support them > > > > Any game support forums specific for ydl? > > I really hope to run the ET expansion pack for RtCW! > > > > Regards Hans Peeters > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > _______________________________________________ > > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > >_______________________________________________ >yellowdog-newbie mailing list >yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 9 21:10:13 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Marc Stergionis) Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 14:10:13 -0600 Subject: Install hang In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At about 9:52 AM -0600 on 5/9/03, Marc Stergionis wrote: >YDL 3 was installing beautifully, till a little after I inserted >Disk 3. Then it just hangs at XFree86-tools. Yesterday, it also hung >on Disk 3, but I don't remember what file. > >PM 8600, 288MB RAM, Linux partition = 3.7G. I was installing the >Workstation setup. Any ideas what's going wrong? > >... there are no error messages or anything. Replying to self :( On reattempt, found it hangs at the same file. I decided to auto partition, but review the specs and it showed as 576MB swap and 3,214MB ext3 and my package install shows as a total of 2,276MB, so shouldn't be that. Bad media? Bad iso/download? -ms -- Many have Montana envy ... the lucky get to live here! Marc Stergionis Communications/Web Specialist Benefis Healthcare http://www.benefis.org "Opinions expressed are not necessarily those of my employer." From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 9 23:41:46 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Daniel Crosby) Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 15:41:46 -0700 Subject: Last plea with a MDD PowerMac Message-ID: Following up on my earlier question: I can't get yellowdog to install on my mirrored drive door (2002) PowerMac, dual 1GHz. It gets to the line Running /sbin/loader And freezes. I have disconnected all added hardware to no avail. The suggestion I received earlier was that it might be bad RAM; I tried each of my three DIMMs separately, with exactly the same result. I can't believe all three are bad, or I'd be getting errors in OS X. I guess I'm not really expecting help at this point because I know others have gotten it to work on this system. But if anybody has any thoughts I would certainly appreciate it. Dan From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 10 03:24:56 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Bradley Martin) Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 19:24:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: fdisk on a new hdd Message-ID: <20030510022456.39569.qmail@web14705.mail.yahoo.com> just installed a new 80gb ata drive in my machine--it's the slave to the existing 6gb drive. linux seems to recognize it as i can do an fdisk on /dev/hdb and it looks about the right size. but it gives me this everytime i run fdisk, even if i make a partition: Device contains neither a valid DOS partition table, nor Sun, SGI or OSF disklabel Building a new DOS disklabel. Changes will remain in memory only, until you decide to write them. After that, of course, the previous content won't be recoverable. The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 155061. There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024, and could in certain setups cause problems with: 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO) 2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK) OK, well sometimes it actually saves the partition table and i can run fdisk and it says i have a single 80gb partition on there, but when i try to mount the drive as ext2 or ext3 it tells me that isn't the filesystem on there...(i set it to 83/Linux in fdisk) help me? i've got a stack of cds waiting to hop on this disk... ===== __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 10 07:47:33 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (mauro) Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 08:47:33 +0200 Subject: fdisk on a new hdd In-Reply-To: <20030510022456.39569.qmail@web14705.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Well, it seems that YDL, needs absolutely a previous MacOs installation to be installed in a HD. So, you should Create a small (at least 2GB but can be much more if you want use both the OSs) mac os partition, installing there a basical (or full) OS9. Then you must set the OS9 to start the installation of YDL, putting the right files in the right folders of the "file system" (YDL calls in this way the Mac Installation). Then i advice you to choose in BootX the kernel "vmlinux-2.4.20-8dBOOT" with the "use ramdisk button" checked, it will drive you with anaconda (a nice and simple graphical installer) throug the installation, and (due to the large size of the HD) you can choose to do an automatic partition or a graphical manual one. The bootloader (lilo), will be installed into the first 1024 cilinder of the master slave, otherwise how you could choose the OSs to use? But every Distro do it automatically, asking before... heh. Another way is to partition all the disk before in at least 4 partition: 1= mac extended (for the file system and to use BootX) 2 = swap / 3 = root / 4 = home (swap could be small, as 256 MB). The best way is to partition with the utility HDT, cause the mac's Drive Setup doesn't works that fine for Linux partition. But with anaconda, you can leave it to do the job for you... do a choose and good look. > just installed a new 80gb ata drive in my > machine--it's the slave to the existing 6gb drive. > linux seems to recognize it as i can do an fdisk on > /dev/hdb and it looks about the right size. but it > gives me this everytime i run fdisk, even if i make a > partition: > > > Device contains neither a valid DOS partition table, > nor Sun, SGI or OSF disklabel > Building a new DOS disklabel. Changes will remain in > memory only, > until you decide to write them. After that, of course, > the previous > content won't be recoverable. > > > The number of cylinders for this disk is set to > 155061. > There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger > than 1024, > and could in certain setups cause problems with: > 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions > of LILO) > 2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs > (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK) > > > OK, well sometimes it actually saves the partition > table and i can run fdisk and it says i have a single > 80gb partition on there, but when i try to mount the > drive as ext2 or ext3 it tells me that isn't the > filesystem on there...(i set it to 83/Linux in fdisk) > > help me? i've got a stack of cds waiting to hop on > this disk... > > > > ===== > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > http://search.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 10 08:16:53 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Francis Maier) Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 01:16:53 -0600 Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: <0FB2DF78E0BA44428DB52BFA47E40B430103C863@stafford> Folks, I'm trying to install YDL on an external SCSI hard drive. I know it's frowned on, but why? and is it possible? From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 10 12:46:15 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Marc Bakker) Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 13:46:15 +0200 Subject: Network error,NTP port Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C316FA.86E5AD60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I succeeded in getting YDL 3.0 up and running. Reinitializing te drive = did it. Thanks! I get a bug when I want to configure my ethernet network card. I see 2 = duplicate entries in the hosts tab (both local IP addresses = 192.168.1.11). I don't need to map these addresses to a computer name so = I delete them both. Then I remove the DNS addresses since I activated = DHCP. 'Save' settings produces an error window. Below is the text. I also want to use a Network Time Sever in the Date / Time control = panel. I select one but the YDL security settings have to be configured = to open the NTP port. The Help tells me to put "udp:ntp" in the "Other = ports" section of the "Security level configuaration" control panel but = this is incorrect since that field accepts only entries in the form = : and nowhere (also not in te documentation can I find = what port te NTP uses. Thanks, Marc tracelog: Component: redhat-config-network Version: 1.2.0 Summary: TB = /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/rhpl/Conf.py:473:__delitem__:KeyError Traceback (most recent call last): File = "/var/tmp/redhat-config-network-1.2.0-root/usr/share/redhat-config-networ= k/netconfpkg/gui/maindialog.py", line 747, in = on_deviceActivateButton_clicked File = "/var/tmp/redhat-config-network-1.2.0-root/usr/share/redhat-config-networ= k/netconfpkg/gui/maindialog.py", line 291, in save File = "/var/tmp/redhat-config-network-1.2.0-root/usr/share/redhat-config-networ= k/netconfpkg/gui/maindialog.py", line 324, in saveProfiles File = "/var/tmp/redhat-config-network-1.2.0-root/usr/share/redhat-config-networ= k/netconfpkg/NCProfileList.py", line 349, in save File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/rhpl/Conf.py", line 473, in = __delitem__ del self.vars[varname] KeyError Local variables in innermost frame: varname:=20 self: ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C316FA.86E5AD60 Content-Type: text/plain; name="NC Panel Bug.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="NC Panel Bug.txt" Component: redhat-config-network Version: 1.2.0 Summary: TB = /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/rhpl/Conf.py:473:__delitem__:KeyError Traceback (most recent call last): File = "/var/tmp/redhat-config-network-1.2.0-root/usr/share/redhat-config-networ= k/netconfpkg/gui/maindialog.py", line 747, in = on_deviceActivateButton_clicked File = "/var/tmp/redhat-config-network-1.2.0-root/usr/share/redhat-config-networ= k/netconfpkg/gui/maindialog.py", line 291, in save File = "/var/tmp/redhat-config-network-1.2.0-root/usr/share/redhat-config-networ= k/netconfpkg/gui/maindialog.py", line 324, in saveProfiles File = "/var/tmp/redhat-config-network-1.2.0-root/usr/share/redhat-config-networ= k/netconfpkg/NCProfileList.py", line 349, in save File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/rhpl/Conf.py", line 473, in = __delitem__ del self.vars[varname] KeyError Local variables in innermost frame: varname:=20 self: ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C316FA.86E5AD60-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 10 13:55:36 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Marc Bakker) Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 14:55:36 +0200 Subject: Network error,NTP port Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C31704.370972E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I succeeded in getting YDL 3.0 up and running. Reinitializing te drive = did it. Thanks! I get a bug when I want to configure my ethernet network card. I see 2 = duplicate entries in the hosts tab (both local IP addresses = 192.168.1.11). I don't need to map these addresses to a computer name so = I delete them both. Then I remove the DNS addresses since I activated = DHCP. 'Save' settings produces an error window. Below is the text. I also want to use a Network Time Sever in the Date / Time control = panel. I select one but the YDL security settings have to be configured = to open the NTP port. The Help tells me to put "udp:ntp" in the "Other = ports" section of the "Security level configuaration" control panel but = this is incorrect since that field accepts only entries in the form = : and nowhere (also not in te documentation can I find = what port te NTP uses. Thanks, Marc tracelog: Component: redhat-config-network Version: 1.2.0 Summary: TB = /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/rhpl/Conf.py:473:__delitem__:KeyError Traceback (most recent call last): File = "/var/tmp/redhat-config-network-1.2.0-root/usr/share/redhat-config-networ= k/netconfpkg/gui/maindialog.py", line 747, in = on_deviceActivateButton_clicked File = "/var/tmp/redhat-config-network-1.2.0-root/usr/share/redhat-config-networ= k/netconfpkg/gui/maindialog.py", line 291, in save File = "/var/tmp/redhat-config-network-1.2.0-root/usr/share/redhat-config-networ= k/netconfpkg/gui/maindialog.py", line 324, in saveProfiles File = "/var/tmp/redhat-config-network-1.2.0-root/usr/share/redhat-config-networ= k/netconfpkg/NCProfileList.py", line 349, in save File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/rhpl/Conf.py", line 473, in = __delitem__ del self.vars[varname] KeyError Local variables in innermost frame: varname:=20 self: ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C31704.370972E0 Content-Type: text/plain; name="NC Panel Bug.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="NC Panel Bug.txt" Component: redhat-config-network Version: 1.2.0 Summary: TB = /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/rhpl/Conf.py:473:__delitem__:KeyError Traceback (most recent call last): File = "/var/tmp/redhat-config-network-1.2.0-root/usr/share/redhat-config-networ= k/netconfpkg/gui/maindialog.py", line 747, in = on_deviceActivateButton_clicked File = "/var/tmp/redhat-config-network-1.2.0-root/usr/share/redhat-config-networ= k/netconfpkg/gui/maindialog.py", line 291, in save File = "/var/tmp/redhat-config-network-1.2.0-root/usr/share/redhat-config-networ= k/netconfpkg/gui/maindialog.py", line 324, in saveProfiles File = "/var/tmp/redhat-config-network-1.2.0-root/usr/share/redhat-config-networ= k/netconfpkg/NCProfileList.py", line 349, in save File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/rhpl/Conf.py", line 473, in = __delitem__ del self.vars[varname] KeyError Local variables in innermost frame: varname:=20 self: ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C31704.370972E0-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 10 17:21:49 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (mauro) Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 18:21:49 +0200 Subject: Network error,NTP port In-Reply-To: Message-ID: well, being under DHCP you need just to be sure that the system recognize your netcard, then leave all blank, and restarting, YLD should reach the card, so the router will give it the right internal IP... Disable for now the YLD firewall, 'cause might be the router has its own active... and is better (if you need to use a firewall) to use the one of the router. bye > Hello, > > I succeeded in getting YDL 3.0 up and running. Reinitializing te drive did it. > Thanks! > > I get a bug when I want to configure my ethernet network card. I see 2 > duplicate entries in the hosts tab (both local IP addresses 192.168.1.11). I > don't need to map these addresses to a computer name so I delete them both. > Then I remove the DNS addresses since I activated DHCP. 'Save' settings > produces an error window. Below is the text. > > I also want to use a Network Time Sever in the Date / Time control panel. I > select one but the YDL security settings have to be configured to open the > NTP port. The Help tells me to put "udp:ntp" in the "Other ports" section of > the "Security level configuaration" control panel but this is incorrect since > that field accepts only entries in the form : and nowhere > (also not in te documentation can I find what port te NTP uses. > > Thanks, > > Marc > tracelog: > > Component: redhat-config-network > Version: 1.2.0 > Summary: TB > /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/rhpl/Conf.py:473:__delitem__:KeyError > Traceback (most recent call last): > File > "/var/tmp/redhat-config-network-1.2.0-root/usr/share/redhat-config-network/net > confpkg/gui/maindialog.py", line 747, in on_deviceActivateButton_clicked > File > "/var/tmp/redhat-config-network-1.2.0-root/usr/share/redhat-config-network/net > confpkg/gui/maindialog.py", line 291, in save > File > "/var/tmp/redhat-config-network-1.2.0-root/usr/share/redhat-config-network/net > confpkg/gui/maindialog.py", line 324, in saveProfiles > File > "/var/tmp/redhat-config-network-1.2.0-root/usr/share/redhat-config-network/net > confpkg/NCProfileList.py", line 349, in save > File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/rhpl/Conf.py", line 473, in __delitem__ > del self.vars[varname] > KeyError > > Local variables in innermost frame: > varname: > self: > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun May 11 13:49:43 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Abraham Kante) Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 05:49:43 -0700 Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: <20030511035550.880751FA6E@newhope.terraplex.com> FAX=3A 44 870 1348280 ATTN=3A THE MANAGING DIRECTOR=2FCEO Dear Sir=2C I know that you will be surprised to receive this business proposal=2EBut first=2C I must introduce myself=2EI am Mr=2EAbraham Kante=2E From the diamond- rich district of Sierra Leone=2E And my father=2C the former special adviser to the former Head of State of Sierra Leone=2C Major Johnny Koromah=2E During the war between our forces led by Ex-head of State=2C Major Johnny Koromah=2C and the West African Allied Forces =28ECOMOG=29=2C at this point=2C the key officers of the administration started making frantic efforts on how to leave Sierra Leone safely by sharing the proceeds=2Fmoney from this Diamond trade=2E In view of the fact that my father was one of the key officers of the then administration and in-law to Major Johnny Koromah=2C he succeeded in getting the sum of US$25 Million =28Twenty five million United State Dollars=29=2E My father made arrangements and transferred the money through Diplomatic means to Amsterdam while I left for London thereafter=2E Unfortunately=2C my father died of a heart attack after a few months of exile in South Africa=2E Automatically=2C all the money now belongs to me as the next to kin=2E Upon our arrival in Amsterdam and after due consultation=2C my father deposited the money with a private Security Company for security reasons as coded=2E The actual contents were not disclosed to them =28Security Company=29 his=2Fher account outside Amsterdam as the strict monetary laws here do not favour taking the money to the banks=2E However=2C I will be most grateful if you can assist me to accomplish this transaction and hoping that you will remain trustworthy=2E For your efforts and assistance=2C I have planned to give you 30% of the total sum while 10% will be set aside for all expenses incurred during the transaction=2C and I will keep 60% for my investment in your country=2E Please not that this transaction is 100% risk free for I have made Solid arrangements for the smooth conclusion of this transaction=2C as such the only thing I ask is your assurance to transfer this money with complete trust and honesty that my own part of the money will be safe when transferred to your account=2EI would also wish that you kept this proposal highly confidential=2E If you are interested in assisting me=2C give me a fax on my fax number above as soon as possible or send mail through email address =3A abramik=40indiatimes=2Ecom Thanks and God bless Best Regards=2C Mr Abraham Kante=2E From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun May 11 05:05:21 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Aaron Madlon-Kay) Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 23:05:21 -0500 Subject: YDL3.0 3rd disc corrupt Message-ID: I was having trouble installing YDL3 on my iBook, so I checked out the archive for solutions but didn't find any. I did, however, find that Mr. Bill Laundrie had the exact same problem--a corrupt 3rd disc. Encouraged, I redownloaded the iso from ftp.yellowdoglinux.com (redirected to jungle.metalab.unc.edu) and checked the md5 checksum. It was NOT the same as indicated in the md5sum file. I then located a local mirror (UW-Madison), downloaded, and did the checksum again. This time it matched. So people having mysterious problems with their 3rd discs should definitely try redownloading from a different server. -Aaron Madlon-Kay -- Out the 10Base-T, through the router, down the T1, over the leased line, off the bridge, past the firewall... nothing but Net. - http://wataru.cjb.net From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun May 11 05:30:59 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Austin Miller) Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 00:30:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: changing monitor settings Message-ID: <20030511043059.13A3C109EC0@xmxpita.excite.com> Hi. I've finally got yellowdog up and running but I'm having problems with my monitor. I have a 1998 iMac 233 Mhz and the resolution is all screwed up. I go to change the resolution and when I close the display window it says I have to log out and restart x server. The problem is that I dont know how to restart the x server. What is the command for this? Also, the screen isn't positioned in the center of the monitor. I don't see any way to reposition the screen. Any help will be greatly appreciated and thanks for your time. Austin. _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun May 11 09:52:44 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com) Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 10:52:44 +0200 (CEST) Subject: installing ydl3.0 on a ilamp ? Message-ID: <42335.80.61.161.82.1052643164.squirrel@www.cows.nl> Hello, I am new in this group but i hope you can help me. I try to install YDL on a imac 2002 (ilamp) with an 15¨ lcd monitor. When the installer starts the windows is repeated 3 times and scrolling. I tried to start the install-text but isnt found. Anybody got an idea? i tried the option: video=vmode:14. This mac has a nvidia graficalcard and when loading the installer it is found, only the monitor is unknown. Bye, Judica From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun May 11 18:11:06 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Steve) Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 10:11:06 -0700 Subject: return to castle wolfenstein anyone one able to install withydl? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3EBE842A.9060105@cyberianhamster.com> Hanz Harz wrote: > my hope was installing > linux would give me the chance to run this new update. You can't run linux RTCW binaries on a Mac based Linux system because they're compiled for x86 systems. If ET was a mod, like WolfTactics, or an update of RTCW then your chances of seeing it on a Mac system any time soon would be better. But it's not. ET is its own game, and it is being given away for free and has its own bugs to be worked out. A Mac port would require a good chunk of work. > Yet installing seams rather hard what i read from the several info i > find on the internet. Installing RTCW and ET on my x86 Linux system wasn't a problem. Steve From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 8 17:40:30 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Soriano, Victor John (Vic)) Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 12:40:30 -0400 Subject: Kickstart? Message-ID: <00ce01c31580$89cbd520$a9129c87@odinvjs> Is there anything like the RedHat Kickstart Configurator for YDL? I'd like to install groups of packages without having to re-install the OS or install packages one by one, if possible. Thanks, Vic _______________________________________________ yellowdog-general mailing list yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun May 11 21:10:16 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ventura_Valderr=E1bano_ornedo?=) Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 22:10:16 +0200 Subject: (no subject) In-Reply-To: <20030511035550.880751FA6E@newhope.terraplex.com> Message-ID: <94C552CE-83EC-11D7-AAB2-0003934BE1D6@wanadoo.es> =A1=A1=A1ANDA Y QUE TE FOLLEN SINVERGUENZA!!!, =A1=A1=A1TIMADOR DE = MIERDA!!!. El domingo, 11 mayo, 2003, a las 14:49 Europe/Madrid, Abraham Kante=20 escribi=F3: > FAX: 44 870 1348280 > > > ATTN: THE MANAGING DIRECTOR/CEO > > Dear Sir, > > I know that you will be surprised to receive this business=20 > proposal.But first, I must introduce myself.I am Mr.Abraham Kante.=20 > =46rom the diamond- rich district of Sierra Leone. And my father, the=20= > former special adviser to the former Head of State of Sierra Leone,=20 > Major Johnny Koromah. > > During the war between our forces led by Ex-head of State, Major=20 > Johnny Koromah, and the West African Allied Forces (ECOMOG), at this=20= > point, the key officers of the administration started making frantic=20= > efforts on how to leave Sierra Leone safely by sharing the=20 > proceeds/money from this Diamond trade. 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There seems to be several tools for setting the printer up. Each one finds my printer (Epson Stylus Photo 820) and the drivers. When I send a test page everything seems fine except no printing. I checked the HOW TO's and followed those instructions, but no luck. Anyone have a similar problem? Paul From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun May 11 22:23:16 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (xxx) Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 05:23:16 +0800 Subject: i have 100000000 emailaddress and emailsender soft(www.0755sz.com) Message-ID: <20030511212358.CF9741FAB4@newhope.terraplex.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format --a56f8ef5-a69b-428d-9147-a9b60e80f12c Content-Type: text/html; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --a56f8ef5-a69b-428d-9147-a9b60e80f12c-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon May 12 07:08:12 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Pietro Cristofoli) Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 08:08:12 +0200 Subject: I can't get video to works on Performa 5400/180 In-Reply-To: <20030511180105.B4C0C1FB2D@newhope.terraplex.com> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20030512074739.021b1d38@pop.univr.it> I've just installed YDL 3.0 on a Performa 5400/180 with a single 12 Gb=20 UATA hard drive and 72 Mb of RAM. I know it's a slow machine but I'm gonna= =20 add some RAM (to reach 136 Mb) and a 256 Kb 2L Cache module (YDL 3.0 runs=20 pretty well on my 8600/200 with 128 Mb of RAM although KDE is a bit= sluggish). I've choosed the "Personal Desktop" install option and it works well ... in= =20 CLI mode! I'm not able to start X. No way. I've even entered the right kernel arguments via-BootX but there's no way=20 to launch the GUI ... I've tryed a lot of combinations: video=3Dvalkyriefb3:vmode:6,cmode:16 video=3Dvalkyriefb3:vmode:6,cmode:8 video=3Dvalkyriefb3:vmode:13,cmode:8 ... and all the other resolution/refresh rate/bit depht combinations that=20 are supported by the 5400 graphics controller and by its CRT display ... Help! Pietro Cristofoli Universit=E0 degli Studi di Verona SIA - Servizi Informatici di Ateneo Consulenza e Supporto +39 045 8028512 pietro.cristofoli@univr.it From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon May 12 08:49:34 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (mauro) Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 09:49:34 +0200 Subject: I can't get video to works on Performa 5400/180 In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030512074739.021b1d38@pop.univr.it> Message-ID: Il tuo sembra, pi=F9 che un problema di monitor, un problema di configurazion= e del server X, hai provato a lavorare su una copia del file .conf o .config? Lavorando, come root, con emacs o vi su una shell puoi cambiare i parametri del display, ed infine dare il fatidico comando "startx" e vedere cosa succede... A proposito di monitor, il mio PPC 6500 ne ha perso l'uso durante l'installazione di YDL, causa i continui riavvii ai quali l'ho sottoposto nel tentativo di installare via anaconda... non dipende dal monitor, ne dal computer che parte con i giusti rumori, ed ho provato con un altro multiple scan, stessa solfa... credo quindi che sia andata la scheda video, che per questo modello =E8 la Ati Radeon II o II pro... sai dove posso reperirne una??? > I've just installed YDL 3.0 on a Performa 5400/180 with a single 12 Gb > UATA hard drive and 72 Mb of RAM. I know it's a slow machine but I'm gon= na > add some RAM (to reach 136 Mb) and a 256 Kb 2L Cache module (YDL 3.0 runs > pretty well on my 8600/200 with 128 Mb of RAM although KDE is a bit slugg= ish). >=20 > I've choosed the "Personal Desktop" install option and it works well ... = in > CLI mode! >=20 > I'm not able to start X. No way. > I've even entered the right kernel arguments via-BootX but there's no way > to launch the GUI ... >=20 > I've tryed a lot of combinations: >=20 > video=3Dvalkyriefb3:vmode:6,cmode:16 > video=3Dvalkyriefb3:vmode:6,cmode:8 > video=3Dvalkyriefb3:vmode:13,cmode:8 >=20 > ... and all the other resolution/refresh rate/bit depht combinations that > are supported by the 5400 graphics controller and by its CRT display ... >=20 > Help! >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Pietro Cristofoli > Universit=E0 degli Studi di Verona > SIA - Servizi Informatici di Ateneo > Consulenza e Supporto >=20 > +39 045 8028512 > pietro.cristofoli@univr.it >=20 > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon May 12 09:04:51 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Nils Crompton) Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 18:04:51 +1000 Subject: local usb printer problem In-Reply-To: <3EBEB7E6.6050200@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <683C7BA7-8450-11D7-ADED-00306559ED64@mac.com> I have exactly the same problem with my Epsaon 870. Either with printtool or CUPS I get the same result as you. The queue thinks it has printed it but it hasn't. Weird. nils On Monday, May 12, 2003, at 06:51 AM, Paul Green wrote: > I just installed YDL 3.0 on a Powermac G4 > and everything works great, except no printer. > There seems to be several tools for setting > the printer up. Each one finds my printer > (Epson Stylus Photo 820) and the drivers. > > When I send a test page everything seems fine > except no printing. I checked the HOW TO's > and followed those instructions, but no luck. > Anyone have a similar problem? > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon May 12 15:42:01 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Nils Crompton) Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 00:42:01 +1000 Subject: MOL fullscreen =badbadbad Message-ID: WOW, MOL in 3.0 just WORKS. Easy as 'startmol' or 'startmol -X'. BUT, I can't get 'molvconfig' to find a working display config for a Geforce4MX with a 17" MEA 1786FD on a 1999 Sawtooth AGP Slot G4 400mhz. The 'man' for 'molvconfig' isn't complete and there are no -options listed. Any ideas? Anyone gotten around this? Are there updated drivers out there for GF4MX? Hardware 3D acceleration wouldn't go astray either! Nils From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon May 12 15:51:02 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Soriano, Victor John (Vic)) Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 10:51:02 -0400 Subject: MOL fullscreen =badbadbad Message-ID: <01c601c31895$e878f220$d2129c87@odinvjs> I posted this EXACT same problem with my PowerMac GF4MX not too long ago. X11 works fine, but no HW accel and no fullscreen MOL :( Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. -Vic ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nils Crompton" To: Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 10:42 AM Subject: MOL fullscreen =badbadbad > WOW, > > MOL in 3.0 just WORKS. Easy as 'startmol' or 'startmol -X'. BUT, I > can't get 'molvconfig' to find a working display config for a > Geforce4MX with a 17" MEA 1786FD on a 1999 Sawtooth AGP Slot G4 400mhz. > The 'man' for 'molvconfig' isn't complete and there are no -options > listed. Any ideas? Anyone gotten around this? Are there updated > drivers out there for GF4MX? Hardware 3D acceleration wouldn't go > astray either! > > Nils > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon May 12 16:30:03 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Francis Maier) Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 09:30:03 -0600 Subject: Beige PowerMac G3 problem Message-ID: <0FB2DF78E0BA44428DB52BFA47E40B430103C865@stafford> Hi, =20 I've spent a couple of days trying to install YDL 3 on my beige PowerMac G3/300 desktop, Rev 3. I upgraded the CPU some time ago to an XLR8 G4/500. I have a SCSI external hard drive attached. Currently I have one internal hard drive, and my internal disk formatting is: a 7.9 gig Mac OS Extended partition for OS X; 14 gigs of unallocated free space in partition 2; and 6 gigs of Mac OS Standard for OS 9. On my external SCSI. I have two partitions of Mac OS Extended. No luck at all with the install. In fact, my whole system is screwy now. I'll probably have to reformat and start again. You'll recall that with the beige G3s, OSX must be installed in the first partition of the hard drive, and that partition cannot exceed 8 gigs. =20 I had earlier tried to install YDL (and then SuSe) on my external SCSI with different formatting schemes, obviously -- no luck with that either. Is this a CPU issue? Is it even possible to install YDL in anything but the master hard drive first partition? Would putting OSX on a second, slave hard drive work (sounds pretty unlikely). Thanks for any help. I'm out of ideas. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon May 12 19:38:30 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Ben Snitkoff) Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 14:38:30 -0400 Subject: Quicksilver Won't "C" boot off of Factory 2.3 CD Message-ID: A few months ago I bought the 2.3 CD's from Terra soft. Since I'm now on break for the summer I have some time to play with Linux, unfortunately I cannot get a burned 3.0 disk or the factory 2.3 disc to boot my computer when restarting with it in the dirve and holding down the c key. The 2.3 Disc worked on an iBook in January. Thanks Ben Snitkoff From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon May 12 22:27:21 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Jamie Pentland) Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 17:27:21 -0400 Subject: Crash on Disk Partitioning Setup with YDL 3.0 Install Message-ID: <83E53152-84C0-11D7-9CDE-003065A20DB0@atlanta-inc.com> Hello, I'm having some trouble installing Yellow Dog Linux 3.0 on a system. =20 The computer is a Power Computing Power Tower Pro 200 with 256 MB RAM =20= and two internal SCSI Hard Drives (one 2gb and one 4gb). The 4gb drive =20= is set up 250 mb hfs and the remaining unallocated, the 2gb is hfs. The =20= no matter which option I choose in the disk partitioning setup part of =20= the installer (Automatic, Disk Druid or PDisk) I always get the same =20 exception: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/anaconda/gui.py", line 634, in nextClicked self.dispatch.gotoNext() File "/usr/anaconda/dispatch.py", line 150, in gotoNext self.moveStep() File "/usr/anaconda/dispatch.py", line 215, in moveStep rc =3D apply (func, self.bindArgs(args)) File "/usr/anaconda/partitioning.py", line 57, in =20 partitionObjectsInitialize partitions.setFromDisk(diskset) File "/usr/anaconda/partitions.py", line 114, in setFromDisk ptype =3D =20 fsset.fileSystemTypeGet(partedUtils.map_foreign_to_fsname(part.mac_nativ=20= e_type)) File "/usr/anaconda/fsset.py", line 61, in fileSystemTypeGet return fileSystemTypes[key] Key error:foreign I've tried reformatting the drives =96 everything I can think of... Any =20= ideas anyone?? The help is appreciated very much! thanks -jamie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon May 12 22:47:43 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Nils Crompton) Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 07:47:43 +1000 Subject: Sound problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5C6CE21A-84C3-11D7-8760-00306559ED64@mac.com> On Monday, May 5, 2003, at 08:53 PM, Paolo G. Cordone wrote: > I have a question regarding YDL 3.0 > When I log in as my ordinary user account, the sound driver for some > reason does not load, so I get no startup up sound effects, nor > anything once I am in. > If I log in as root, everything works as expected. I don't recall > changing any settings after creating the ordinary user account. > Where should I look, in order to find what is going on? OK here is a quick fix. Go into the control center and navigate to sound. Change the quality from Auto to 8 bit then log out log in. Sound will work but be low-qual so change it to 16 bit and log out log in. Should be ok. Nils From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon May 12 23:09:40 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Jamie Pentland) Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 18:09:40 -0400 Subject: YDL 3.0 Text install on Oldworld system? Message-ID: <6D26FFAF-84C6-11D7-9CDE-003065A20DB0@atlanta-inc.com> How do I install YDL 3.0 with the text installer on an old world system? I can't find the same ramdisk image as on 2.3, and i can't type in install-text because it's an oldworld system... any suggestions? -jamie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon May 12 23:15:58 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Marc Stergionis) Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 16:15:58 -0600 Subject: Sound problem In-Reply-To: <5C6CE21A-84C3-11D7-8760-00306559ED64@mac.com> References: <5C6CE21A-84C3-11D7-8760-00306559ED64@mac.com> Message-ID: At about 7:47 AM +1000 on 5/13/03, Nils Crompton wrote: >On Monday, May 5, 2003, at 08:53 PM, Paolo G. Cordone wrote: > >>I have a question regarding YDL 3.0 >>When I log in as my ordinary user account, the sound driver for >>some reason does not load, so I get no startup up sound effects, >>nor anything once I am in. >>If I log in as root, everything works as expected. I don't recall >>changing any settings after creating the ordinary user account. >>Where should I look, in order to find what is going on? > >OK here is a quick fix. Go into the control center and navigate to >sound. Change the quality from Auto to 8 bit then log out log in. >Sound will work but be low-qual so change it to 16 bit and log out >log in. Should be ok. Same type of thing ... I get: Error while initializing sound driver. device /dev/dsp cant be opened (No such device) The wound server will continue, using the null output device. However I get the same message logging in as root and changing quality from Auto to 8 Logout/in and then 16 Logout/in does not change the error. -ms -- Many have Montana envy ... the lucky get to live here! Marc Stergionis Communications/Web Specialist Benefis Healthcare http://www.benefis.org "Opinions expressed are not necessarily those of my employer." From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon May 12 23:57:41 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Dylan Hand) Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 03:57:41 +0500 Subject: YDL 3.0 Text install on Oldworld system? In-Reply-To: <6D26FFAF-84C6-11D7-9CDE-003065A20DB0@atlanta-inc.com> References: <6D26FFAF-84C6-11D7-9CDE-003065A20DB0@atlanta-inc.com> Message-ID: <1052780261.29445.0.camel@ibook> In BootX, enter "text" in the text field at the bottom of the window. Dylan On Tue, 2003-05-13 at 03:09, Jamie Pentland wrote: > How do I install YDL 3.0 with the text installer on an old world > system? I can't find the same ramdisk image as on 2.3, and i can't type > in install-text because it's an oldworld system... > any suggestions? > -jamie > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 13 01:45:48 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Paul Green) Date: 12 May 2003 20:45:48 -0400 Subject: MOL fullscreen=badbadbad Message-ID: <1052786748.1446.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Nils Crompton wrote: WOW, MOL in 3.0 just WORKS. Easy as 'startmol' or 'startmol -X'. BUT, I can't get 'molvconfig' to find a working display config for a Geforce4MX with a 17" MEA 1786FD on a 1999 Sawtooth AGP Slot G4 400mhz. The 'man' for 'molvconfig' isn't complete and there are no -options listed. Any ideas? Anyone gotten around this? Are there updated drivers out there for GF4MX? Hardware 3D acceleration wouldn't go astray either! Nils I get the same results using a Powermac G4 with a Radeon 7500 on a Apple Studio 17. Only the configured resolution seems to work, which is pretty bad Paul From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 13 02:13:12 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (mauro) Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 03:13:12 +0200 Subject: MOL fullscreen=badbadbad In-Reply-To: <1052786748.1446.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1052786748.1446.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030513031312109342.GyazMail.imagemaker@macosx.com> Radeon linux drivers are not supported by ATI... You can try to find some, wrote from indipendent programmers, doing a search in google.com/linux. Nvidia care about linux, and they provides some drivers in their site; give a look... > WOW, > > MOL in 3.0 just WORKS. Easy as 'startmol' or 'startmol -X'. BUT, I > can't get 'molvconfig' to find a working display config for a > Geforce4MX with a 17" MEA 1786FD on a 1999 Sawtooth AGP Slot G4 400mhz. > The 'man' for 'molvconfig' isn't complete and there are no -options > listed. Any ideas? Anyone gotten around this? Are there updated > drivers out there for GF4MX? Hardware 3D acceleration wouldn't go > astray either! > > Nils > > I get the same results using a Powermac G4 with a Radeon 7500 on a > Apple Studio 17. Only the configured resolution seems to work, > which is pretty bad > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 13 02:26:53 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Enphilistor) Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 21:26:53 -0400 Subject: MOL fullscreen=badbadbad In-Reply-To: <20030513031312109342.GyazMail.imagemaker@macosx.com> Message-ID: Well certainly some ATI cards work fine. Well I have a 2002 PowerbookG4 which has a Radeon 9000 card in it and about a dozen graphics modes seem to work pretty well. So does hardware 3D acceleration. The only hardware problem I've had is with sleep. Or rather waking up from it -- the system simply won't. When one opens the lid the drive spins back up, but the display never comes back. Enphilistor On Monday, May 12, 2003, at 21:13 US/Eastern, mauro wrote: > Radeon linux drivers are not supported by ATI... You can try to find > some, > wrote from indipendent programmers, doing a search in google.com/linux. > Nvidia care about linux, and they provides some drivers in their site; > give a > look... > >> WOW, >> >> MOL in 3.0 just WORKS. Easy as 'startmol' or 'startmol -X'. BUT, I >> can't get 'molvconfig' to find a working display config for a >> Geforce4MX with a 17" MEA 1786FD on a 1999 Sawtooth AGP Slot G4 >> 400mhz. >> The 'man' for 'molvconfig' isn't complete and there are no -options >> listed. Any ideas? Anyone gotten around this? Are there updated >> drivers out there for GF4MX? Hardware 3D acceleration wouldn't go >> astray either! >> >> Nils >> >> I get the same results using a Powermac G4 with a Radeon 7500 on a >> Apple Studio 17. Only the configured resolution seems to work, >> which is pretty bad >> >> Paul >> >> _______________________________________________ >> yellowdog-newbie mailing list >> yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >> http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon May 12 22:38:32 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Oscar G. Maldonado) Date: 12 May 2003 21:38:32 +0000 Subject: local usb printer problem In-Reply-To: <20030512180102.636621FB10@newhope.terraplex.com> References: <20030512180102.636621FB10@newhope.terraplex.com> Message-ID: <1052775512.1434.20.camel@imac.burodigital.com.mx> El lun, 12-05-2003 a las 18:01, yellowdog-newbie-request@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com escribiķ: > > I just installed YDL 3.0 on a Powermac G4 > and everything works great, except no printer. > There seems to be several tools for setting > the printer up. Each one finds my printer > (Epson Stylus Photo 820) and the drivers. > > When I send a test page everything seems fine > except no printing. I checked the HOW TO's > and followed those instructions, but no luck. > Anyone have a similar problem? > > Paul This just happened to me when I connect the USB cable to the keyboard port, have you tried to connect the USB cable to the Mac port ? Just another question ? Have you chmoded your spool ? chmod 777 /dev/usb/lp0 Oscar G. Maldonado Cotero Consultoría en sistemas e Internet http://www.burodigital.com.mx ID Icq: 109124655 From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 13 03:54:14 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Austin Miller) Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 22:54:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Can't get java sdk to work. Message-ID: <20030513025414.CC8F5B6F5@xmxpita.excite.com> Hello. I've searched all over the internet on how to set the java path. I found some info but no matter what I try I can't get java working. I tried 'export PATH=/usr/j2sdk1.3.1/bin:$PATH and what not but when I enter java -version it says java: command not found. I've only gotten the plugin to work but nothing else. Thanks in advance. Austin. _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 13 04:27:09 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Rick Sheridan) Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 20:27:09 -0700 Subject: Sound problem Message-ID: This should work. I am assuming from the posts that you are running KDE. Open a terminal console, at the prompt enter "lsmod". This will list all the loaded modules. You should see a couple or three lines referencing "sound": dmasound_pmac dmasound_core soundcore If you do not see these lines, then do the following: In the terminal console enter "modprobe dmasound_pmac". You should simply return to a prompt. Now re-enter "lsmod" and you should see the lines listed above. Now open the 'Sound Server' Control Panel and reset the Sound Quality to 'Auto'. 'Apply' the change and 'Test' the Sound Server. All should be well. Now navigate to the directory '/etc/rc.d'. Open the file 'rc.local' in a text editor (any one will do, just be sure to save the file as plain text), and add the following line: modprobe dmasound_pmac Save the file, and your sound should work when you reboot. If you get the same errors in your user account, log in as 'root', then edit your user account adding the account to the 'sys' group. Hope this helps. Rick At about 7:47 AM +1000 on 5/13/03, Nils Crompton wrote: >On Monday, May 5, 2003, at 08:53 PM, Paolo G. Cordone wrote: > >>I have a question regarding YDL 3.0 >>When I log in as my ordinary user account, the sound driver for >>some reason does not load, so I get no startup up sound effects, >>nor anything once I am in. >>If I log in as root, everything works as expected. I don't recall >>changing any settings after creating the ordinary user account. >>Where should I look, in order to find what is going on? > >OK here is a quick fix. Go into the control center and navigate to >sound. Change the quality from Auto to 8 bit then log out log in. >Sound will work but be low-qual so change it to 16 bit and log out >log in. Should be ok. Same type of thing ... I get: Error while initializing sound driver. device /dev/dsp cant be opened (No such device) The wound server will continue, using the null output device. However I get the same message logging in as root and changing quality from Auto to 8 Logout/in and then 16 Logout/in does not change the error. -ms -- Many have Montana envy ... the lucky get to live here! Marc Stergionis Communications/Web Specialist Benefis Healthcare http://www.benefis.org "Opinions expressed are not necessarily those of my employer." From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 13 07:13:55 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Pietro Cristofoli) Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 08:13:55 +0200 Subject: I can't get video to works on Performa 5400/180 In-Reply-To: <20030512180102.636621FB10@newhope.terraplex.com> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20030513075819.0232db28@pop.univr.it> --=====================_88380578==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tutto a posto. Ho cambiato la scheda logica del mio 5400/180 con una del=20 5500/275 (la CPU, una 603ev, =E8 overclockata a 300 MHz ;) che un amico mi= ha=20 procurato. A differenza del 5400, il 5500 ha un vero chpset video (Ati Rage IIc con 2= =20 Mb di SGRAM) e non un semlive buffer da 512 kb. YDL =E8 andato su alla= grande=20 e funziona molto bene. I've found a solution by myself. I've swapped my 5400 logic board with a=20 loose 5500 logic board (thanks to a friend of mine that works as a hardware= =20 technician). Now, I've got a 5500/300 wirh a real video chipset (Ati Rage=20 IIc with 2 Mb di SGRAM) instead of a simple video buffer ... Now YDL works perfectly and it's very usable thanks to the 2D acceleration= =20 provided by the Ati chip. >A proposito di monitor, il mio PPC 6500 ne ha perso l'uso durante=20 >l'installazione di YDL, causa i continui riavvii ai quali l'ho sottoposto= =20 >nel tentativo di installare via anaconda... non dipende dal monitor, ne=20 >dal computer che parte con i giusti rumori, ed ho provato con un altro=20 >multiple scan, stessa solfa... credo quindi che sia andata la scheda=20 >video, che per questo modello =3DE8 la Ati Radeon II o II pro... sai dove= =20 >posso reperirne una??? Non esiste la Radeon II ... ne' la II Pro ... Se si tratta di una scheda PCI (per forza, visto che il 6500 non ha slot=20 AGP) ed =E8 una Ati, pu=F2 essere solo una Rage IIc, una Rage Pro, una Rage= 128=20 o una Radeon 32/Radeon 7000. Puoi cercare un usato su MacExchange o Macity oppure una Radeon 7000 nuova= =20 presso qualunque rivenditore Apple (occhio ... =E8 costosetta). Pietro Pietro Cristofoli Universit=E0 degli Studi di Verona SIA - Servizi Informatici di Ateneo Consulenza e Supporto +39 045 8028512 pietro.cristofoli@univr.it --=====================_88380578==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tutto a posto. Ho cambiato la scheda logica del mio 5400/180 con una del 5500/275 (la CPU, una 603ev, =E8 overclockata a 300 MHz ;) che un amico mi ha procurato.
A differenza del 5400, il 5500 ha un vero chpset video (Ati Rage IIc con 2 Mb di SGRAM) e non un semlive buffer da 512 kb. YDL =E8 andato su alla grande e funziona molto bene.

I've found a solution by myself. I've swapped my 5400 logic board with a loose 5500 logic board (thanks to a friend of mine that works as a hardware technician). Now, I've got a 5500/300 wirh a real video chipset (Ati Rage IIc with 2 Mb di SGRAM) instead of a simple video buffer ...
Now YDL works perfectly and it's very usable thanks to the 2D acceleration provided by the Ati chip.


A proposito di monitor, il mio PPC 6500 ne ha perso l'uso durante l'installazione di YDL, causa i continui riavvii ai quali l'ho sottoposto nel tentativo di installare via anaconda... non dipende dal monitor, ne dal computer che parte con i giusti rumori, ed ho provato con un altro multiple scan, stessa solfa... credo quindi che sia andata la scheda video, che per questo modello =3DE8 la Ati Radeon II o II pro... sai dove posso reperirne una???

Non esiste la Radeon II ... ne' la II Pro ...

Se si tratta di una scheda PCI (per forza, visto che il 6500 non ha slot AGP) ed =E8 una Ati, pu=F2 essere solo una Rage IIc, una Rage Pro, una Rage 128 o una Radeon 32/Radeon 7000.

Puoi cercare un usato su MacExchange o Macity oppure una Radeon 7000 nuova presso qualunque rivenditore Apple (occhio ... =E8 costosetta).

Pietro

Pietro Cristofoli
Universit=E0 degli Studi di Verona=20
SIA - Servizi Informatici di Ateneo=20
Consulenza e Supporto
+39 045 8028512=20
pietro.cristofoli@univr.it
--=====================_88380578==.ALT-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 13 09:09:49 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (mauro) Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 10:09:49 +0200 Subject: I can't get video to works on Performa 5400/180 In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030513075819.0232db28@pop.univr.it> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030513075819.0232db28@pop.univr.it> Message-ID: <20030513100949172019.GyazMail.imagemaker@macosx.com> >=20 > Se si tratta di una scheda PCI (per forza, visto che il 6500 non ha = slot=20 > AGP) ed =E8 una Ati, pu=F2 essere solo una Rage IIc, una Rage Pro, una = Rage 128=20 > o una Radeon 32/Radeon 7000. >=20 > Puoi cercare un usato su MacExchange o Macity oppure una Radeon 7000 = nuova=20 > presso qualunque rivenditore Apple (occhio ... =E8 costosetta). >=20 > Pietro >=20 La scheda in questione =E8 una Rage IIc ed =E8 purtroppo saldata sulla = scheda=20 madre. La miglior soluzione =E8 quella che mi suggerisci anche tu, cio=E8 = di=20 provare una scheda per slot PCI lasciando l resto cosi com'=E8... ma la = vedo=20 dura, dato che gli attuali slot PCI misurano 12" e quelli del PPC 6500=20 misurano 7"... Grazie comunque Saluti Mauro From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 13 15:35:07 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Nils Crompton) Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 00:35:07 +1000 Subject: MOL fullscreen=badbadbad In-Reply-To: <20030513031312109342.GyazMail.imagemaker@macosx.com> Message-ID: <17BA3104-8550-11D7-8B58-00306559ED64@mac.com> Hmmm, Checked out nvida website. No luck on the PPC front. There is a partition to sign here: http://www.imaclinux.net/ On Tuesday, May 13, 2003, at 11:13 AM, mauro wrote: > Radeon linux drivers are not supported by ATI... You can try to find > some, > wrote from indipendent programmers, doing a search in google.com/linux. > Nvidia care about linux, and they provides some drivers in their site; > give a > look... From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 13 16:19:02 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Kristian T.) Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 17:19:02 +0200 Subject: Can't get java sdk to work. In-Reply-To: <20030513025414.CC8F5B6F5@xmxpita.excite.com> Message-ID: 1) Make sure, that the JDK really is there... Go to the /bin directory and try the "java -version" there. If that doesn't work - make sure, that the user rights is set correctly, or (worst case) try installing the JDK again. 2) If 1) works then the problem might be your PATH. Checkout our path by typing "set" in your shell. You might want to place something like this in your /etc/profile to make java available for all users: export JAVA_HOME=/usr/j2sdk1.3.1 export PATH=$PATH:$JAVA_HOME/bin When you have added these lines you have to log in again - simply: 'su -l yourusername' Have fun :-) > From: "Austin Miller" > Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 22:54:14 -0400 (EDT) > To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > Subject: Can't get java sdk to work. > > > Hello. I've searched all over the internet on how to set the java path. I > found some info but no matter what I try I can't get java working. I tried > 'export PATH=/usr/j2sdk1.3.1/bin:$PATH and what not but when I enter java > -version it says java: command not found. I've only gotten the plugin to work > but nothing else. Thanks in advance. > Austin. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > The most personalized portal on the Web! > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 13 17:33:37 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (john mark) Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 12:33:37 -0400 Subject: From John. Message-ID: <20030513163334.C22933BA7A9@smtp.latinmail.com> From;Mr.John M Mark and Family, Johannesburg,South Africa. My Dear , Good day.This very confidential request should come as a surprise to you.But it is because of the nature of what is happening to me and my family urged me to contact you, and I quite understand that this is not the best way to contact you because of the nature of my request and the attention it requires.I got your contact information from your country's information directory during my desperate search for someone who can assist me secretly and confidentially in relocating and managing some family fortunes. My name is Mr.John M Mark, the second son of Mr.Stephen Nddu Mark, of Beitbridge Zimbabwe.At the height of the present political crisis in our country,in which the white farmers in our country are being slained and ripped off their belongings by the supporters of our president,Mr.Robert G.Mugabe,in their efforts to reclaim all the white owned farms in our country,my father and my elder brother were brutally slained to a painful death on the 13th of february,2002, in their struggle to protect some white farmers who ran to take refuge in our house. My father,during his life on earth was a prominent business man who traded on diamond and gold from some foreign countries.He publicly opposed the crude policies and crime against humanity on the white farmers by Mr.Robert Mugabe and his followers,which they enforced media law restrictions to protect their wicked acts.That not being enough,the president and his followers after winning the last undemocratic elections decided to block and confiscate all accounts and assets of our black indigenes [including my father's assets and accounts] who opposed his policies and rendered support to these white farmers,whose assets and accounts have already been confiscated.I therefore decided to move my mother and younger sister to the Republic of South Africa,where we presently live without anything and without any source of livelyhood. During my father's life on earth,he had deposited the sum of Seven Million and Four Hundred Thousand United States Dollars[$7.400.000.00],in a trunk box with a Finance and Security Company in the Republic of Togo for a cash and carry Diamond and Gold business with some foreign business customers, awaiting instructions to be moved to its destination,which he never concluded before he met his untimely death on that faithful day.In view of this and as the only surviving son of my father,and with the present clamp down, killing and confiscation of his assets as one of those who rendered support to the white farmers in our country,I therefore, humbly, wish to inform you of my intentions to use your name and address in making sure that this fund is lifted out of Africa to the Finance Company's affiliate office in Europe. Also to seek for your honest and trustworthy assistance to help me clear and accommodate this money over there before it is dictated out and blocked by the present Mugabe's regime.My mother is presently with the valid document covering this deposit. Now this is what I actually want you to do for me; 1.I want your personal information to be presented to the Finance and Security company in Togo as the person my family contacted to assist us clear this money when they lift it out to their Europe affiliate office. 2.To finally assist us in accommodating this money , and if you wish as my family has wished, we enter into a joint venture agreement with you on investing this money in your country when it is cleared. Please,I hope you will grant and view this very request with favour and much understanding of our situation now,and will be a very honest and reliable person to deal with.And also bearing in mind the confidential nature of this my request,I emphasize please that you keep every bit of it to yourself so as to protect my familys future. Thanking you in anticipation of your urgent response as soon as you read this very request. Best Regards, Mr.John M Mark and family. _______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Obtén gratis tu cuenta de correo en StarMedia Email. ĄRegístrate hoy mismo!. http://www.starmedia.com/email From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 13 17:35:45 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (john mark) Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 12:35:45 -0400 Subject: From John. Message-ID: <20030513163539.7234E3BA755@smtp.latinmail.com> From;Mr.John M Mark and Family, Johannesburg,South Africa. My Dear , Good day.This very confidential request should come as a surprise to you.But it is because of the nature of what is happening to me and my family urged me to contact you, and I quite understand that this is not the best way to contact you because of the nature of my request and the attention it requires.I got your contact information from your country's information directory during my desperate search for someone who can assist me secretly and confidentially in relocating and managing some family fortunes. My name is Mr.John M Mark, the second son of Mr.Stephen Nddu Mark, of Beitbridge Zimbabwe.At the height of the present political crisis in our country,in which the white farmers in our country are being slained and ripped off their belongings by the supporters of our president,Mr.Robert G.Mugabe,in their efforts to reclaim all the white owned farms in our country,my father and my elder brother were brutally slained to a painful death on the 13th of february,2002, in their struggle to protect some white farmers who ran to take refuge in our house. My father,during his life on earth was a prominent business man who traded on diamond and gold from some foreign countries.He publicly opposed the crude policies and crime against humanity on the white farmers by Mr.Robert Mugabe and his followers,which they enforced media law restrictions to protect their wicked acts.That not being enough,the president and his followers after winning the last undemocratic elections decided to block and confiscate all accounts and assets of our black indigenes [including my father's assets and accounts] who opposed his policies and rendered support to these white farmers,whose assets and accounts have already been confiscated.I therefore decided to move my mother and younger sister to the Republic of South Africa,where we presently live without anything and without any source of livelyhood. During my father's life on earth,he had deposited the sum of Seven Million and Four Hundred Thousand United States Dollars[$7.400.000.00],in a trunk box with a Finance and Security Company in the Republic of Togo for a cash and carry Diamond and Gold business with some foreign business customers, awaiting instructions to be moved to its destination,which he never concluded before he met his untimely death on that faithful day.In view of this and as the only surviving son of my father,and with the present clamp down, killing and confiscation of his assets as one of those who rendered support to the white farmers in our country,I therefore, humbly, wish to inform you of my intentions to use your name and address in making sure that this fund is lifted out of Africa to the Finance Company's affiliate office in Europe. Also to seek for your honest and trustworthy assistance to help me clear and accommodate this money over there before it is dictated out and blocked by the present Mugabe's regime.My mother is presently with the valid document covering this deposit. Now this is what I actually want you to do for me; 1.I want your personal information to be presented to the Finance and Security company in Togo as the person my family contacted to assist us clear this money when they lift it out to their Europe affiliate office. 2.To finally assist us in accommodating this money , and if you wish as my family has wished, we enter into a joint venture agreement with you on investing this money in your country when it is cleared. Please,I hope you will grant and view this very request with favour and much understanding of our situation now,and will be a very honest and reliable person to deal with.And also bearing in mind the confidential nature of this my request,I emphasize please that you keep every bit of it to yourself so as to protect my familys future. Thanking you in anticipation of your urgent response as soon as you read this very request. Best Regards, Mr.John M Mark and family. _______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Obtén gratis tu cuenta de correo en StarMedia Email. ĄRegístrate hoy mismo!. http://www.starmedia.com/email From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 13 17:36:45 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (john mark) Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 12:36:45 -0400 Subject: From John. Message-ID: <20030513163642.C1B6618F6D@smtp.latinmail.com> From;Mr.John M Mark and Family, Johannesburg,South Africa. My Dear , Good day.This very confidential request should come as a surprise to you.But it is because of the nature of what is happening to me and my family urged me to contact you, and I quite understand that this is not the best way to contact you because of the nature of my request and the attention it requires.I got your contact information from your country's information directory during my desperate search for someone who can assist me secretly and confidentially in relocating and managing some family fortunes. My name is Mr.John M Mark, the second son of Mr.Stephen Nddu Mark, of Beitbridge Zimbabwe.At the height of the present political crisis in our country,in which the white farmers in our country are being slained and ripped off their belongings by the supporters of our president,Mr.Robert G.Mugabe,in their efforts to reclaim all the white owned farms in our country,my father and my elder brother were brutally slained to a painful death on the 13th of february,2002, in their struggle to protect some white farmers who ran to take refuge in our house. My father,during his life on earth was a prominent business man who traded on diamond and gold from some foreign countries.He publicly opposed the crude policies and crime against humanity on the white farmers by Mr.Robert Mugabe and his followers,which they enforced media law restrictions to protect their wicked acts.That not being enough,the president and his followers after winning the last undemocratic elections decided to block and confiscate all accounts and assets of our black indigenes [including my father's assets and accounts] who opposed his policies and rendered support to these white farmers,whose assets and accounts have already been confiscated.I therefore decided to move my mother and younger sister to the Republic of South Africa,where we presently live without anything and without any source of livelyhood. During my father's life on earth,he had deposited the sum of Seven Million and Four Hundred Thousand United States Dollars[$7.400.000.00],in a trunk box with a Finance and Security Company in the Republic of Togo for a cash and carry Diamond and Gold business with some foreign business customers, awaiting instructions to be moved to its destination,which he never concluded before he met his untimely death on that faithful day.In view of this and as the only surviving son of my father,and with the present clamp down, killing and confiscation of his assets as one of those who rendered support to the white farmers in our country,I therefore, humbly, wish to inform you of my intentions to use your name and address in making sure that this fund is lifted out of Africa to the Finance Company's affiliate office in Europe. Also to seek for your honest and trustworthy assistance to help me clear and accommodate this money over there before it is dictated out and blocked by the present Mugabe's regime.My mother is presently with the valid document covering this deposit. Now this is what I actually want you to do for me; 1.I want your personal information to be presented to the Finance and Security company in Togo as the person my family contacted to assist us clear this money when they lift it out to their Europe affiliate office. 2.To finally assist us in accommodating this money , and if you wish as my family has wished, we enter into a joint venture agreement with you on investing this money in your country when it is cleared. Please,I hope you will grant and view this very request with favour and much understanding of our situation now,and will be a very honest and reliable person to deal with.And also bearing in mind the confidential nature of this my request,I emphasize please that you keep every bit of it to yourself so as to protect my familys future. Thanking you in anticipation of your urgent response as soon as you read this very request. Best Regards, Mr.John M Mark and family. _______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Obtén gratis tu cuenta de correo en StarMedia Email. ĄRegístrate hoy mismo!. http://www.starmedia.com/email From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 13 18:38:07 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Garth W Martin) Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 12:38:07 -0500 Subject: From John. References: <20030513163334.C22933BA7A9@smtp.latinmail.com> Message-ID: <001f01c31976$6b8528b0$404419ac@telvista.com> If he "lives without anything" how the hell is he sending this email???? And why are we getting them???? ----- Original Message ----- From: "john mark" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 11:33 AM Subject: From John. > From;Mr.John M Mark and Family, > Johannesburg,South Africa. > > My Dear , > > Good day.This very confidential request should come as a surprise to you.But it is because of the nature of what is happening to me and my family urged me to contact you, and I quite understand that this is not the best way to contact you because of the nature of > my request and the attention it requires.I got your contact information from your country's information directory during my desperate search for someone who can assist me secretly and confidentially in relocating and managing some family fortunes. > > My name is Mr.John M Mark, the second son of Mr.Stephen Nddu Mark, of Beitbridge Zimbabwe.At the height of the present political crisis in our country,in which the white farmers in our country are being slained and ripped off their belongings by the supporters of our president,Mr.Robert G.Mugabe,in their efforts to reclaim all the white owned farms in our country,my father and my elder brother were > brutally slained to a painful death on the 13th of february,2002, in their struggle to protect some white farmers who ran to take refuge in our house. > > My father,during his life on earth was a prominent > business man who traded on diamond and gold from some foreign countries.He publicly opposed the crude policies and crime against humanity on the white farmers by Mr.Robert Mugabe and his followers,which they enforced media law restrictions to protect their > wicked acts.That not being enough,the president and his followers after winning the last undemocratic elections decided to block and confiscate all accounts and assets of our black indigenes [including my father's assets and accounts] who opposed his policies and rendered support to these white farmers,whose assets and accounts have already been confiscated.I therefore decided to move my mother and younger sister to the Republic of South Africa,where we presently live without anything and without any source of livelyhood. > > During my father's life on earth,he had deposited the sum of Seven Million and Four Hundred Thousand United States Dollars[$7.400.000.00],in a trunk box with a Finance and Security Company in the Republic of Togo for a cash and carry Diamond and Gold business with some foreign business customers, awaiting instructions > to be moved to its destination,which he never concluded before he met his untimely death on that faithful day.In view of this and as the only surviving son of my father,and with the present clamp down, killing and confiscation of his assets as one of those who rendered support to the white farmers in our country,I therefore, humbly, wish to inform you of my intentions to use your name and address in making sure that this fund is lifted out of Africa to the Finance Company's affiliate office in Europe. Also to seek for your honest and trustworthy assistance to help me clear and accommodate this money over there before it is dictated out and blocked by the present Mugabe's regime.My mother is presently with the valid document covering this deposit. > > Now this is what I actually want you to do for me; > > 1.I want your personal information to be presented to the Finance and Security company in Togo as the person my family contacted to assist us clear this money when they lift it out to their Europe affiliate office. > 2.To finally assist us in accommodating this money , and if you wish as my family has wished, we enter into a joint venture agreement with you on investing this money in your country when it is cleared. > > Please,I hope you will grant and view this very request with favour and much understanding of our situation now,and will be a very honest and reliable person to deal with.And also bearing in mind the > confidential nature of this my request,I emphasize please that you keep every bit of it to yourself so as to protect my familys future. > > Thanking you in anticipation of your urgent response as soon as you read this very request. > > Best Regards, > > Mr.John M Mark and family. > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ ___________________________ > Obtén gratis tu cuenta de correo en StarMedia Email. ĄRegístrate hoy mismo!. http://www.starmedia.com/email > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 13 18:47:54 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Marc Stergionis) Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 11:47:54 -0600 Subject: From John. In-Reply-To: <001f01c31976$6b8528b0$404419ac@telvista.com> References: <20030513163334.C22933BA7A9@smtp.latinmail.com> <001f01c31976$6b8528b0$404419ac@telvista.com> Message-ID: At about 12:38 PM -0500 on 5/13/03, Garth W Martin wrote: >If he "lives without anything" how the hell is he sending this email???? >And why are we getting them???? >----- Original Message ----- >From: "john mark" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 11:33 AM >Subject: From John. > > > > From;Mr.John M Mark and Family, > > Johannesburg,South Africa. Three times, no less!! -ms -- Many have Montana envy ... the lucky get to live here! Marc Stergionis Communications/Web Specialist Benefis Healthcare http://www.benefis.org "Opinions expressed are not necessarily those of my employer." From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 13 18:48:19 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Pedro Gutierrez) Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 19:48:19 +0200 Subject: From John. In-Reply-To: <001f01c31976$6b8528b0$404419ac@telvista.com> Message-ID: <152F8B20-856B-11D7-BCFC-000A956871E2@mac.com> Don't know. But greed leads to the dark side of the force. Be careful!! =20= =3DD On Tuesday, May 13, 2003, at 07:38 PM, Garth W Martin wrote: > If he "lives without anything" how the hell is he sending this =20 > email???? > And why are we getting them???? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "john mark" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 11:33 AM > Subject: =46rom John. > > >> From;Mr.John M Mark and Family, >> Johannesburg,South Africa. >> >> My Dear , >> >> Good day.This very confidential request should come as a surprise to > you.But it is because of the nature of what is happening to me and my =20= > family > urged me to contact you, and I quite understand that this is not the =20= > best > way to contact you because of the nature of >> my request and the attention it requires.I got your contact =20 >> information > from your country's information directory during my desperate search =20= > for > someone who can assist me secretly and confidentially in relocating = and > managing some family fortunes. >> >> My name is Mr.John M Mark, the second son of Mr.Stephen Nddu Mark, of > Beitbridge Zimbabwe.At the height of the present political crisis in =20= > our > country,in which the white farmers in our country are being slained = and > ripped off their belongings by the supporters of our =20 > president,Mr.Robert > G.Mugabe,in their efforts to reclaim all the white owned farms in our > country,my father and my elder brother were >> brutally slained to a painful death on the 13th of february,2002, in =20= >> their > struggle to protect some white farmers who ran to take refuge in our =20= > house. >> >> My father,during his life on earth was a prominent >> business man who traded on diamond and gold from some foreign =20 >> countries.He > publicly opposed the crude policies and crime against humanity on the =20= > white > farmers by Mr.Robert Mugabe and his followers,which they enforced =20 > media law > restrictions to protect their >> wicked acts.That not being enough,the president and his followers =20 >> after > winning the last undemocratic elections decided to block and =20 > confiscate all > accounts and assets of our black indigenes [including my father's =20 > assets and > accounts] who opposed his policies and rendered support to these white > farmers,whose assets and accounts have already been confiscated.I =20 > therefore > decided to move my mother and younger sister to the Republic of South > Africa,where we presently live without anything and without any source = =20 > of > livelyhood. >> >> During my father's life on earth,he had deposited the sum of Seven =20= >> Million > and Four Hundred Thousand United States Dollars[$7.400.000.00],in a =20= > trunk > box with a Finance and Security Company in the Republic of Togo for a =20= > cash > and carry Diamond and Gold business with some foreign business =20 > customers, > awaiting instructions >> to be moved to its destination,which he never concluded before he met = =20 >> his > untimely death on that faithful day.In view of this and as the only > surviving son of my father,and with the present clamp down, killing = and > confiscation of his assets as one of those who rendered support to the = =20 > white > farmers in our country,I therefore, humbly, wish to inform you of my > intentions to use your name and address in making sure that this fund =20= > is > lifted out of Africa to the Finance Company's affiliate office in =20 > Europe. > Also to seek for your honest and trustworthy assistance to help me =20 > clear and > accommodate this money over there before it is dictated out and =20 > blocked by > the present Mugabe's regime.My mother is presently with the valid =20 > document > covering this deposit. >> >> Now this is what I actually want you to do for me; >> >> 1.I want your personal information to be presented to the Finance =20= >> and > Security company in Togo as the person my family contacted to assist = us > clear this money when they lift it out to their Europe affiliate =20 > office. >> 2.To finally assist us in accommodating this money , and if you =20 >> wish as > my family has wished, we enter into a joint venture agreement with you = =20 > on > investing this money in your country when it is cleared. >> >> Please,I hope you will grant and view this very request with favour =20= >> and > much understanding of our situation now,and will be a very honest and > reliable person to deal with.And also bearing in mind the >> confidential nature of this my request,I emphasize please that you =20= >> keep > every bit of it to yourself so as to protect my familys future. >> >> Thanking you in anticipation of your urgent response as soon as you =20= >> read > this very request. >> >> Best Regards, >> >> Mr.John M Mark and family. >> >> >> >> >> > = _______________________________________________________________________=20= > _____ > ___________________________ >> Obt=E9n gratis tu cuenta de correo en StarMedia Email. =A1Reg=EDstrate = hoy > mismo!. http://www.starmedia.com/email >> >> _______________________________________________ >> yellowdog-newbie mailing list >> yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >> http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie >> > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 13 19:31:14 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com) Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 14:31:14 -0400 Subject: From John. In-Reply-To: <152F8B20-856B-11D7-BCFC-000A956871E2@mac.com> Message-ID: <145B105F-8571-11D7-BB88-000A2789E5C6@mac.com> I doubt any of you will send this guy the information that he needs, =20 but if you were planning on it, don't. This is an ages old scam that has a name something like Nigera 401 =20 Scam, so keep a lookout for this and make sure none of your relatives =20= fall to it. Ben On Tuesday, May 13, 2003, at 01:48 PM, Pedro Gutierrez wrote: > Don't know. But greed leads to the dark side of the force. Be =20 > careful!! =3DD > > On Tuesday, May 13, 2003, at 07:38 PM, Garth W Martin wrote: > >> If he "lives without anything" how the hell is he sending this =20 >> email???? >> And why are we getting them???? >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "john mark" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 11:33 AM >> Subject: =46rom John. >> >> >>> From;Mr.John M Mark and Family, >>> Johannesburg,South Africa. >>> >>> My Dear , >>> >>> Good day.This very confidential request should come as a surprise to >> you.But it is because of the nature of what is happening to me and my = =20 >> family >> urged me to contact you, and I quite understand that this is not the =20= >> best >> way to contact you because of the nature of >>> my request and the attention it requires.I got your contact =20 >>> information >> from your country's information directory during my desperate search =20= >> for >> someone who can assist me secretly and confidentially in relocating =20= >> and >> managing some family fortunes. >>> >>> My name is Mr.John M Mark, the second son of Mr.Stephen Nddu Mark, = of >> Beitbridge Zimbabwe.At the height of the present political crisis in =20= >> our >> country,in which the white farmers in our country are being slained =20= >> and >> ripped off their belongings by the supporters of our =20 >> president,Mr.Robert >> G.Mugabe,in their efforts to reclaim all the white owned farms in our >> country,my father and my elder brother were >>> brutally slained to a painful death on the 13th of february,2002, in = =20 >>> their >> struggle to protect some white farmers who ran to take refuge in our =20= >> house. >>> >>> My father,during his life on earth was a prominent >>> business man who traded on diamond and gold from some foreign =20 >>> countries.He >> publicly opposed the crude policies and crime against humanity on the = =20 >> white >> farmers by Mr.Robert Mugabe and his followers,which they enforced =20 >> media law >> restrictions to protect their >>> wicked acts.That not being enough,the president and his followers =20= >>> after >> winning the last undemocratic elections decided to block and =20 >> confiscate all >> accounts and assets of our black indigenes [including my father's =20 >> assets and >> accounts] who opposed his policies and rendered support to these = white >> farmers,whose assets and accounts have already been confiscated.I =20 >> therefore >> decided to move my mother and younger sister to the Republic of South >> Africa,where we presently live without anything and without any =20 >> source of >> livelyhood. >>> >>> During my father's life on earth,he had deposited the sum of Seven =20= >>> Million >> and Four Hundred Thousand United States Dollars[$7.400.000.00],in a =20= >> trunk >> box with a Finance and Security Company in the Republic of Togo for a = =20 >> cash >> and carry Diamond and Gold business with some foreign business =20 >> customers, >> awaiting instructions >>> to be moved to its destination,which he never concluded before he =20= >>> met his >> untimely death on that faithful day.In view of this and as the only >> surviving son of my father,and with the present clamp down, killing =20= >> and >> confiscation of his assets as one of those who rendered support to =20= >> the white >> farmers in our country,I therefore, humbly, wish to inform you of my >> intentions to use your name and address in making sure that this fund = =20 >> is >> lifted out of Africa to the Finance Company's affiliate office in =20 >> Europe. >> Also to seek for your honest and trustworthy assistance to help me =20= >> clear and >> accommodate this money over there before it is dictated out and =20 >> blocked by >> the present Mugabe's regime.My mother is presently with the valid =20 >> document >> covering this deposit. >>> >>> Now this is what I actually want you to do for me; >>> >>> 1.I want your personal information to be presented to the Finance = =20 >>> and >> Security company in Togo as the person my family contacted to assist =20= >> us >> clear this money when they lift it out to their Europe affiliate =20 >> office. >>> 2.To finally assist us in accommodating this money , and if you =20= >>> wish as >> my family has wished, we enter into a joint venture agreement with =20= >> you on >> investing this money in your country when it is cleared. >>> >>> Please,I hope you will grant and view this very request with favour =20= >>> and >> much understanding of our situation now,and will be a very honest and >> reliable person to deal with.And also bearing in mind the >>> confidential nature of this my request,I emphasize please that you =20= >>> keep >> every bit of it to yourself so as to protect my familys future. >>> >>> Thanking you in anticipation of your urgent response as soon as you =20= >>> read >> this very request. >>> >>> Best Regards, >>> >>> Mr.John M Mark and family. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> = ______________________________________________________________________=20= >> ______ >> ___________________________ >>> Obt=E9n gratis tu cuenta de correo en StarMedia Email. =A1Reg=EDstrate= hoy >> mismo!. http://www.starmedia.com/email >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> yellowdog-newbie mailing list >>> yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >>> = http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> yellowdog-newbie mailing list >> yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >> http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie >> > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 13 20:07:30 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Rafael Terpins) Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 16:07:30 -0300 Subject: wacom Message-ID: Eh vc que esta vendendo um tablet wacom? Obrigado Rafael From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 13 20:42:51 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Jason Stevens) Date: 13 May 2003 22:42:51 +0300 Subject: iBook sound problems with YDL 3.0 Message-ID: <1052854971.13343.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> Running YDL 3.0 on my 12" iBook2, I get no sound when using the majority of sound applications, including Grip. Grip successfully reads from my combo drive and obtains album and track information from the web, but no audio is output. Within the Grip application, CD Config displays the CDRom device as /dev/cdrom. I have no idea if this is correct (still getting used to the whole concept of mount points :-\). I have the same problem in both root and user accounts. Jason From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 13 21:04:03 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Michel Letourneux) Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 16:04:03 -0400 Subject: yellowdog-newbie digest, Vol 1 #454 - 13 msgs References: <20030513061202.0B6C51FACE@newhope.terraplex.com> Message-ID: <3EC14FB3.6010909@aei.ca> Hi, A simple question. Is there, in YellowDog 3, a rpm utility? I can't find kpackage or gnorpm... I dont like to use "rpm" commands directly. Thanks, Michel From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 13 16:58:56 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Ted McDonald) Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 15:58:56 +0000 Subject: Sound problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200305131558.56051.tedmcdonald@mac.com> This didn't work for me. =20 On Tuesday 13 May 2003 03:27, Rick Sheridan wrote: > This should work. I am assuming from the posts that you are running KD= E. > Open a terminal console, at the prompt enter "lsmod". This will list a= ll > the loaded modules. You should see a couple or three lines referencing > "sound": > dmasound_pmac > dmasound_core > soundcore > > If you do not see these lines, then do the following: > > In the terminal console enter "modprobe dmasound_pmac". > > You should simply return to a prompt. Now re-enter "lsmod" and you sho= uld > see the lines listed above. > > Now open the 'Sound Server' Control Panel and reset the Sound Quality t= o > 'Auto'. 'Apply' the change and 'Test' the Sound Server. All should be > well. > > Now navigate to the directory '/etc/rc.d'. Open the file 'rc.local' in= a > text editor (any one will do, just be sure to save the file as plain te= xt), > and add the following line: > > modprobe dmasound_pmac > > Save the file, and your sound should work when you reboot. > > If you get the same errors in your user account, log in as 'root', then > edit your user account adding the account to the 'sys' group. > > Hope this helps. > > Rick > > At about 7:47 AM +1000 on 5/13/03, Nils Crompton wrote: > >On Monday, May 5, 2003, at 08:53 PM, Paolo G. Cordone wrote: > >>I have a question regarding YDL 3.0 > >>When I log in as my ordinary user account, the sound driver for > >>some reason does not load, so I get no startup up sound effects, > >>nor anything once I am in. > >>If I log in as root, everything works as expected. I don't recall > >>changing any settings after creating the ordinary user account. > >>Where should I look, in order to find what is going on? > > > >OK here is a quick fix. Go into the control center and navigate to > >sound. Change the quality from Auto to 8 bit then log out log in. > >Sound will work but be low-qual so change it to 16 bit and log out > >log in. Should be ok. > > Same type of thing ... I get: > > Error while initializing sound driver. > > device /dev/dsp cant be opened (No such device) > > The wound server will continue, using the null output device. > > > However I get the same message logging in as root and changing > quality from Auto to 8 Logout/in and then 16 Logout/in does not > change the error. > > -ms From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 14 00:00:36 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Dan Burcaw) Date: 13 May 2003 17:00:36 -0600 Subject: Experimental kernel w/ HFS+ suppor Message-ID: <1052866836.1420.2.camel@skyfox.terraplex.com> I've put together rpms of 2.4.21 RC2 with the HFS+ patch that was recently posted. While this is a prerelease, feel free to give it a try. http://stage.terraplex.com/~dburcaw/kernel-2.4.21-0.98a.ppc.rpm or the SMP variety: http://stage.terraplex.com/~dburcaw/kernel-smp-2.4.21-0.98a.ppc.rpm Source tree: http://stage.terraplex.com/~dburcaw/kernel-source-2.4.21-0.98a.ppc.rpm If you have problems, let me know. -D From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 14 00:26:54 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (John Horner) Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 09:26:54 +1000 Subject: Monitor Problem on iLamp Message-ID: I've got a problem on an iLamp-style iMac. The monitor is "wrapping around". The rightmost 5% of the screen is over on the left, i.e. instead of: ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ I would see YZABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWX which is, as I'm sure you can imagine, not critical but very annoying. Not least because those few far-right pixels are where the close-box of a maximised window can be found. Any help gratefully received. -- ------------------------------------------------------------ John Horner (+612 / 02) 9333 2110 Senior Developer, ABC Online http://abc.net.au/ ------------------------------------------------------------ From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 14 00:30:48 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Dan Burcaw) Date: 13 May 2003 17:30:48 -0600 Subject: Experimental kernel w/ HFS+ support (MOL too) In-Reply-To: <1052866836.1420.2.camel@skyfox.terraplex.com> References: <1052866836.1420.2.camel@skyfox.terraplex.com> Message-ID: <1052868648.1420.9.camel@skyfox.terraplex.com> On Tue, 2003-05-13 at 17:00, Dan Burcaw wrote: > I've put together rpms of 2.4.21 RC2 with the HFS+ patch that > was recently posted. While this is a prerelease, feel free to > give it a try. > > http://stage.terraplex.com/~dburcaw/kernel-2.4.21-0.98a.ppc.rpm > > or the SMP variety: > http://stage.terraplex.com/~dburcaw/kernel-smp-2.4.21-0.98a.ppc.rpm > > > Source tree: > http://stage.terraplex.com/~dburcaw/kernel-source-2.4.21-0.98a.ppc.rpm > > If yo Here is a new mol-kmods package compiled for the above kernel. http://stage.terraplex.com/~dburcaw/mol-kmods-0.9.68-2.0.98a.ppc.rpm From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 14 00:51:05 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (John Horner) Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 09:51:05 +1000 Subject: Graphic Login For Specific User? Message-ID: Might be a dumb question, but how do I set it so that one user has a graphic login and the others have a text login? -- ------------------------------------------------------------ John Horner (+612 / 02) 9333 2110 Senior Developer, ABC Online http://abc.net.au/ ------------------------------------------------------------ From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 14 13:49:20 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Alexander Car=?ISO-8859-1?B?9A==?=t) Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 14:49:20 +0200 Subject: clock problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi, I have a very weired problem setting my clock under YDL 2.3. I run the date/time command from the GUI I can set it with. The timeserver never works so I do it manually. When loggin in the next time I always get a wrong time which looks like the one of a timeserver. I don't where this is set - looks like a different option I havn't accessed yet. Can anyone help ? Thanks -- A l e x From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 14 13:59:54 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Mark Jenkins) Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 08:59:54 -0400 Subject: Install problem G3 All-In-One Message-ID: I am new to Linux on MAC, I am trying to install Yellow Dog 3 on a G3 All-In-One Mac w/128mb of ram. I have loaded bootx & am able to start the installation. When get to the point where I am asked for the media type (cdrom, hard drive, http, ftp) the machine locks. I am forced to reboot. Any help would be appreciated! Thanks Mark Jenkins From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 14 14:21:27 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Jason Stevens) Date: 14 May 2003 16:21:27 +0300 Subject: Install problem G3 All-In-One In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1052918487.1407.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> I have not seen such a stage in the YDL 3 installation. Assuming you are running a text-based installation from CD, YDL should recognize the media type. I know this doesn't offer a solution, but perhaps someone else has something insightful to add about this? On Wed, 2003-05-14 at 15:59, Mark Jenkins wrote: > I am new to Linux on MAC, I am trying to install Yellow Dog 3 on a G3 > All-In-One Mac w/128mb of ram. I have loaded bootx & am able to start > the installation. When get to the point where I am asked for the media > type (cdrom, hard drive, http, ftp) the machine locks. I am forced to > reboot. > > Any help would be appreciated! > > Thanks > Mark Jenkins > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 14 15:15:01 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Mark Jenkins) Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 10:15:01 -0400 Subject: Install problem G3 All-In-One In-Reply-To: <1052918487.1407.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1052918487.1407.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: Hi there, the first screen I come to is choose a language, the next is keyboard type, it is the 3rd screen that is causing the hang, this is where I can pick Installation Method. Thanks Mark yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com writes: >I have not seen such a stage in the YDL 3 installation. Assuming you are >running a text-based installation from CD, YDL should recognize the >media type. I know this doesn't offer a solution, but perhaps someone >else has something insightful to add about this? > >On Wed, 2003-05-14 at 15:59, Mark Jenkins wrote: >> I am new to Linux on MAC, I am trying to install Yellow Dog 3 on a G3 >> All-In-One Mac w/128mb of ram. I have loaded bootx & am able to start >> the installation. When get to the point where I am asked for the media >> type (cdrom, hard drive, http, ftp) the machine locks. I am forced to >> reboot. >> >> Any help would be appreciated! >> >> Thanks >> Mark Jenkins >> >> _______________________________________________ >> yellowdog-newbie mailing list >> yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >> http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > > >_______________________________________________ >yellowdog-newbie mailing list >yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 14 16:45:55 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (m b) Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 08:45:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Graphical RPM Package Manager Message-ID: <20030514154555.6964.qmail@web13304.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1706780241-1052927155=:6777 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello, I run YDL 3.0 on a G3 233 PPC. I wonder if you can manage installed software via a GUI. Is there a graphical Package Manager for YDL 3.0 like the one that comes with RedHat 8.0? I know RPM 4.1 comes with the distribution but this is a command line tool. Thanks, Marc --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. --0-1706780241-1052927155=:6777 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
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I run YDL 3.0 on a G3 233 PPC. I wonder if you can manage installed software via a GUI. Is there a graphical Package Manager for YDL 3.0 like the one that comes with RedHat 8.0? I know RPM 4.1 comes with the distribution but this is a command line tool.
 
Thanks,
 
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The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. --0-1706780241-1052927155=:6777-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 14 17:06:30 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (mauro) Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 18:06:30 +0200 Subject: Graphical RPM Package Manager In-Reply-To: <20030514154555.6964.qmail@web13304.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hello folks, i'm experienced just installing YDL on old word macs... now i got a new generation machine.... what's the easiest way to install YDL 3.0 in a 1Ghz G4/2003 (no boot from OS 9.2.2)? Thanx in advance Mauro (from Italy) From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 14 17:13:42 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (mauro) Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 18:13:42 +0200 Subject: YDL on new world macs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello folks, i'm experienced just installing YDL on old word macs... now i got a new generation machine.... what's the easiest way to install YDL 3.0 in a 1Ghz G4/2003 (no boot from OS 9.2.2)? Thanx in advance Mauro (from Italy) From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 14 17:16:45 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_M=F8lsted?=) Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 18:16:45 +0200 Subject: Graphical RPM Package Manager In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <7542AF16-8627-11D7-BFC0-0003936412AE@mgraphics.dk> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Booting from the YDL installationCD (holding down the C-key) Ren=E9 On onsdag, maj 14, 2003, at 06:06 PM, mauro wrote: > Hello folks, > i'm experienced just installing YDL on old word macs... now i got a = new > generation machine.... what's the easiest way to install YDL 3.0 in a=20= > 1Ghz > G4/2003 (no boot from OS 9.2.2)? > > Thanx in advance > Mauro (from Italy) > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 8.0.2 iQCVAwUBPsJr7hP8J6DAN1ixAQFjqgP/SY/C6KEjutZv6UNaneIPwAP9g1+bW4CA bDF+JeyhOCUBXZBrImtP94xnn7PgOybylcy7p8CsdxwiJO4od6QmzJpfYGRUr2Ka axEz4tB1mwV6NzDzgb5f50j9NzRsL2UaOg5GHe6hxMzSKBYWlOQGDucv40V01qTC S8vZHh02aKw=3D =3D+hLP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 14 17:47:13 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (m b) Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 09:47:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Apache onYDL3.0 Message-ID: <20030514164713.92989.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com> --0-404705281-1052930833=:92655 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello, The display control panel in YDL 3.0 has an option that lets you enter the screen width and height and calculates the DPI based on these numbers. At it's current settings (1152*864) my screen is 10 mm too wide and 10 mm to short so I thought I could correct this using this option. But adjusting these values makes no difference ar all - next time I login or restart the desktop still runs too wide and I have a black band above and below the screen. I have a ATI Mach 64 3D Rage II card, use the ATI driver. Any idea how can I resolve this? Thanks --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. --0-404705281-1052930833=:92655 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Hello,
 
The display control panel in YDL 3.0 has an option that lets you enter the screen width and height and calculates the DPI based on these numbers. At it's current settings (1152*864) my screen is 10 mm too wide and 10 mm to short so I thought I could correct this using this option. But adjusting these values makes no difference ar all - next time I login or restart the desktop still runs too wide and I have a black band above and below the screen.
 
I have a ATI Mach 64 3D Rage II card, use the ATI driver.
 
Any idea how can I resolve this?
 
Thanks

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The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. --0-404705281-1052930833=:92655-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 14 19:56:29 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (m b) Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 11:56:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Setting Scren Size Message-ID: <20030514185629.78483.qmail@web13305.mail.yahoo.com> Hello, The display control panel in YDL 3.0 has an option that lets you enter the screen width and height and calculates the DPI based on these numbers. At it's current settings (1152*864) my screen is 10 mm too wide and 10 mm to short so I thought I could correct this using this option. But adjusting these values makes no difference ar all - next time I login or restart the desktop still runs too wide and I have a black band above and below the screen. I have a ATI Mach 64 3D Rage II card, use the ATI driver. Any idea how can I resolve this? Thanks Marc __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 14 20:00:59 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (mauro) Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 21:00:59 +0200 Subject: Setting Scren Size In-Reply-To: <20030514185629.78483.qmail@web13305.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Il giorno 14-05-2003 20:56, m b, meelzooi2000@yahoo.com ha scritto: > Hello, > > The display control panel in YDL 3.0 has an option > that lets you enter the screen width and height and > calculates the DPI based on these numbers. At it's > current settings (1152*864) my screen is 10 mm too > wide and 10 mm to short so I thought I could correct > this using this option. But adjusting these values > makes no difference ar all - next time I login or > restart the desktop still runs too wide and I have a > black band above and below the screen. > > I have a ATI Mach 64 3D Rage II card, use the ATI > driver. > doing it as root and saving... > Any idea how can I resolve this? > > Thanks > > Marc > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > http://search.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 15 01:46:55 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Chris Ruzin) Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 19:46:55 -0500 Subject: Enabling Xft anti-aliasing Message-ID: > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3135786416_12492313 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable How would I go about enabling Xft anti-aliasing? I have installed OpenBox, which supports anti-aliased text through Xft, but it=B9s not working even though the style is calling for it. My only guess is that I don=B9t have Xft anti-aliasing enabled. I=B9m also not sure what version comes with YDL 3. Is it version 1 or 2? Thanks, Chris --B_3135786416_12492313 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Enabling Xft anti-aliasing How would I go about enabling Xft anti-aliasing?  = ;I have installed OpenBox, which supports anti-aliased text through Xft, but= it’s not working even though the style is calling for it.  My on= ly guess is that I don’t have Xft anti-aliasing enabled.

I’m also not sure what version comes with YDL 3.  Is it version = 1 or 2?

Thanks,
Chris --B_3135786416_12492313-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 15 06:37:30 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Chris Ruzin) Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 00:37:30 -0500 Subject: Xft font anti-aliasing Message-ID: > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3135803851_13349559 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Nevermind. I always seem to find the solution myself AFTER I ask for help. I found an excellent tutorial about getting Xft setup correctly here: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=4825 Now, OpenBox looks awesome and my custom style is looking very professional. Chris --B_3135803851_13349559 Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: Xft font anti-aliasing Nevermind.  I always seem to find the solution my= self AFTER I ask for help.  I found an excellent tutorial about getting= Xft setup correctly here: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=3D4825

Now, OpenBox looks awesome and my custom style is looking very professional= .

Chris --B_3135803851_13349559-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 15 10:34:23 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Charles Trois) Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 11:34:23 +0200 Subject: Graphical RPM Package Manager Message-ID: Message: 1 Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 08:45:55 -0700 (PDT) From: m b Subject: Graphical RPM Package Manager To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com --0-1706780241-1052927155=:6777 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello, I run YDL 3.0 on a G3 233 PPC. I wonder if you can manage installed software via a GUI. Is there a graphical Package Manager for YDL 3.0 like the one that comes with RedHat 8.0? I know RPM 4.1 comes with the distribution but this is a command line tool. Thanks, Marc On the KDE website, there is still a reference to KPackage, but the program itself is not available. I suppose that it is being updated. Charles From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 15 10:37:11 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Charles Trois) Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 11:37:11 +0200 Subject: yellowdog-newbie digest, Vol 1 #458 - 5 msgs In-Reply-To: <20030514180105.2FA631FB34@newhope.terraplex.com> Message-ID: le 14/05/03 20:01, yellowdog-newbie-request@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com =E0 yellowdog-newbie-request@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com a =E9crit=A0: > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 08:45:55 -0700 (PDT) > From: m b > Subject: Graphical RPM Package Manager > To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >=20 > --0-1706780241-1052927155=3D:6777 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii >=20 > Hello, >=20 > I run YDL 3.0 on a G3 233 PPC. I wonder if you can manage installed softw= are > via a GUI. Is there a graphical Package Manager for YDL 3.0 like the one = that > comes with RedHat 8.0? I know RPM 4.1 comes with the distribution but thi= s is > a command line tool. >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Marc >=20 On the KDE website, there is still a reference to KPackage, but the program itself is not available. I suppose that it is being updated. Charles From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 15 18:29:40 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (lcastlem) Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 13:29:40 -0400 Subject: Problem installing YDL3.0 on PowerPC 7500/100 Message-ID: <3EC3CE84.1080202@optonline.net> I recall having seen someone reporting this same problem, but I could not find the message after going through all of the May, April, and March Archive entries. So, here goes. When I attempt to install YDL 3.0 and begin with CD Install I., the installation procedure proceeds without a hitch until I choose package selection: Development Workstation (Recommended). "Reading local package database". After 2 minutes and 45 seconds of progress,I get the following output: "Traceback (innermost last) File /usr/lib/yi/yi/ line 56, in? sys.exit(yi(standalone 1)(1) File /usr/lib/yi/template.py/ line 57, in-call- return self.configure (args) " etc. (about 30 additional lines to be corrected) Error: Please correct this manually" My problems are these: (1)How do I find the location of File /usr/lib/yi/yi/ which obviously has errors that need to be corrected. I assume that it's supposed to be someplace in the kernel, but if so, where, and how can I get access to it? (2) My knowledge of hacking is limited, so I doubt that I am capable of "Please correct this manually". In retrospect, I suppose I should have paid for the Terrasoft Support option, but I did not because I had expected the YDL 3.0 release to be free of problems, unlike those that I ran into with YDL 2.2 and YDL 2.3. I would greatly appeciate any assistance that the readers of these Archives would be able to give me. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 15 17:32:35 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (iindigo lop) Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 12:32:35 -0400 Subject: Non-destructive partitioning tool? Message-ID: Does such a thing exist? Thanks! From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 15 17:49:17 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Paul Green) Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 12:49:17 -0400 Subject: HFS+ support Message-ID: <3EC3C50D.5050701@earthlink.net> I notice that Dan Burcaw posted the RPM for HFS+ support. Has anyone tried it? How do you mount the HFS+ partition for access to Mac OS X? Paul From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 15 18:03:09 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Enphilistor) Date: 15 May 2003 13:03:09 -0400 Subject: HFS+ support In-Reply-To: <3EC3C50D.5050701@earthlink.net> References: <3EC3C50D.5050701@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1053018189.18107.31.camel@dhcp25-200.wildfire.com> I would recommend being cautious with it! At the very least be sure to save a copy of the older kernel and make sure that you have an entry for it in your yaboot.conf file so that you have a choice of which kernel to boot with. Just installing the new RPM does NOT leave you with a system which contains both kernels in the yaboot.conf file and you may end up in trouble -- as I did. I neglected to save the old kernel and modify the yaboot.conf file and after updating to the new kernel ended up with a system which kept hanging on the "Checking for New Hardware" message. I have a Powerbook 2002 3,5 with the ATI 9000 graphics and an Airport card so if you have that configuration you might want to wait for a later update. Enphilistor On Thu, 2003-05-15 at 12:49, Paul Green wrote: > I notice that Dan Burcaw posted the RPM for HFS+ > support. Has anyone tried it? How do you mount > the HFS+ partition for access to Mac OS X? > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 15 18:09:54 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Madhusudan Katti) Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 10:09:54 -0700 Subject: HFS+ support In-Reply-To: <3EC3C50D.5050701@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <0BED8C29-86F8-11D7-9B4C-00306577F178@asu.edu> --Boundary_(ID_5XtXhrq6LVF19ddQ+eJ7zg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable I've tried it and had no trouble so far on my OldWorld PPC machine with=20= SCSI hard drives. After installing the rpm, I had to copy the new=20 vmlinux file to the OS 9 partition and place in in the /Linux Kernels/=20= folder in the /System Folder/. The system booted up fine once I pointed=20= BootX to the new kernel and everything else works as before - so thank=20= you Dan! To mount a HFS+ partition, I use the following command: #mount -t hfsplus /dev/sda6 /mnt/ where is the directory you want to use under /mnt/ for the=20 hfsplus partition. I have also tried the modprobe command from /sbin/ thus: #./modprobe hfsplus and that seemed to work also. I have not had time to figure out how to get the hfsplus drive to=20 automount on startup as I would like it to be available all the time.=20 I'd appreciate any input from wiser heads on how to do that. Madhu On Thursday, May 15, 2003, at 09:49 America/Phoenix, Paul Green wrote: > I notice that Dan Burcaw posted the RPM for HFS+ > support. Has anyone tried it?=A0 How do you mount > the HFS+ partition for access to Mac OS X? > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > --Boundary_(ID_5XtXhrq6LVF19ddQ+eJ7zg) Content-type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable I've tried it and had no trouble so far on my OldWorld PPC machine with SCSI hard drives. After installing the rpm, I had to copy the new vmlinux file to the OS 9 partition and place in in the /Linux Kernels/ folder in the /System Folder/. The system booted up fine once I pointed BootX to the new kernel and everything else works as before - so thank you Dan! To mount a HFS+ partition, I use the following command: #mount -t hfsplus /dev/sda6 /mnt/< where < is the directory you want to use under /mnt/ for the hfsplus partition. I have also tried the modprobe command from /sbin/ thus: #./modprobe hfsplus and that seemed to work also. I have not had time to figure out how to get the hfsplus drive to automount on startup as I would like it to be available all the time. I'd appreciate any input from wiser heads on how to do that. Madhu On Thursday, May 15, 2003, at 09:49 America/Phoenix, Paul Green wrote: I notice that Dan Burcaw posted the RPM for HFS+ support. Has anyone tried it?=A0 How do you mount the HFS+ partition for access to Mac OS X? Paul _______________________________________________ yellowdog-newbie mailing list yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com = 1999,1999,FFFFhttp://lists.terrasoftsolut= ions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie = --Boundary_(ID_5XtXhrq6LVF19ddQ+eJ7zg)-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 15 18:10:18 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (mauro) Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 19:10:18 +0200 Subject: Non-destructive partitioning tool? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Does such a thing exist? > > Thanks! Unfortunately it doesn't, for mac.... Mauro > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 15 19:45:46 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Perry Lund) Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 13:45:46 -0500 Subject: yaboot configuration Message-ID: <70CE7037-8705-11D7-BD41-00039303634A@arrowquick.com> I installed YDL 3 on a second IDE hard drive in a G4 tower. The install went smoothly and YDL booted up fine. However, I was expecting to see a choice to boot either Mac OS X (x) or Linux (l) at the boot screen. All I get is CD-ROM (c) and Linux (l). Is there any way to reconfigure the yaboot loader? Thanks. =+=+ =+=+ =+=+ =+=+ =+=+ =+=+ =+=+ =+=+ Perry Lund, Senior Partner ArrowQuick Solutions Office: 641-673-4109 Mobile: 641-660-5064 Website: http://www.arrowquick.com =+=+ =+=+ =+=+ =+=+ =+=+ =+=+ =+=+ =+=+ From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 15 19:47:53 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Perry Lund) Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 13:47:53 -0500 Subject: YDL Resolution Message-ID: I have installed YDL on a G4 Tower with a Rage 128 video card. I have a ViewSonic OptiQuestion Q95 monitor. The maximum resolution that YDL will allow me to change to is 832 x 624 at millions of colors. Any idea if that is normal for this particular Mac G4 tower and video card? Thanks =+=+ =+=+ =+=+ =+=+ =+=+ =+=+ =+=+ =+=+ Perry Lund, Senior Partner ArrowQuick Solutions Office: 641-673-4109 Mobile: 641-660-5064 Website: http://www.arrowquick.com =+=+ =+=+ =+=+ =+=+ =+=+ =+=+ =+=+ =+=+ From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 16 03:36:14 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (D. Scott Moore) Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 21:36:14 -0500 Subject: What a Weenie Message-ID: <200305152136.14282.smoore@gustavus.edu> Maybe I have been spoiled by my recent success with SuSE 8.2 for 386 machines, but I miss the graphical software installer on my YDL 3.0 machine. How do we install more packages from the CDs? Must we use the command line? -- D. Scott Moore, Bass Trombone Music Department Gustavus Adolphus College Saint Peter, Minnesota 56082 (507) 933-6260 smoore@gustavus.edu From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 16 03:42:44 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (D. Scott Moore) Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 21:42:44 -0500 Subject: What a Weenie Message-ID: <200305152142.44831.smoore@gustavus.edu> Maybe I have been spoiled by my recent success with SuSE 8.2 for 386 machines, but I miss the graphical software installer on my YDL 3.0 machine. How do we install more packages from the CDs? Must we use the command line? -- D. Scott Moore, Bass Trombone Music Department Gustavus Adolphus College Saint Peter, Minnesota 56082 (507) 933-6260 smoore@gustavus.edu From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 16 03:52:51 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Angela Kahealani) Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 16:52:51 -1000 Subject: What a Weenie In-Reply-To: <200305152142.44831.smoore@gustavus.edu> References: <200305152142.44831.smoore@gustavus.edu> Message-ID: <200305151652.51841.angela@kahealani.com> On Thu, 2003-05-15 16:42, D. Scott Moore wrote: > Maybe I have been spoiled by my recent success with SuSE 8.2 for 386 > machines, ...and your recent multiposting on the newdogs list... complete with inappropriate Subject: line too. > but I miss the graphical software installer on my YDL 3.0 > machine. well, maybe you left the .iso around... but most likely the installer is on a CD, not on your machine. > How do we install more packages from the CDs? That is correct. These would be Install CD 1, Install CD 2... > Must we use the command line? No, you can adopt an OS that fails to provide one... like Mac. -- Copyright 2003 Angela Kahealani. http://www.kahealani.com/ All Rights Reserved Without Prejudice, UCC 1-207, Non Assumsit, T.D.C. All information and transactions are private between the parties and are non negotiable. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 16 05:36:44 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com) Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 00:36:44 EDT Subject: Salvage YDL3 install? Message-ID: <1d9.9b5f548.2bf5c4dc@aol.com> I managed to bork my YDL3 install by accidentally deleting my /etc/fstab file while editing it. On startup I get "Warning: couldn't open /etc/fstab: No such file or directory." Reinstalling isn't an issue but would like the learning experience if recreating the /etc/fstab file is possible either manually or via install rescue with CD. My partitions are hda16 for ext3 and hda15 for swap. Any guidance gratefully appreciated. I'm not afraid to lose current install trying, there's nothing that can't be reinstalled. Thanks! From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 16 06:24:46 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Ron Smith) Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 22:24:46 -0700 Subject: Salvage YDL3 install? In-Reply-To: <1d9.9b5f548.2bf5c4dc@aol.com> References: <1d9.9b5f548.2bf5c4dc@aol.com> Message-ID: <3EC4761E.9060902@ydl.net> Well, you're off to a good start because you know what partitions you need to deal with. =) If you can get the machine to boot into something that can mount the partition with linux installed you can re-create the file (I don't know if the recovery or install CD would help with this or if OS X can mount an ext3 partition or not). Using my /etc/fstab as an example the file format/contents is: [ron@dogbook ron]$ more /etc/fstab /dev/hda6 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom udf,iso9660 noauto,owner,kudzu,ro 0 0 [ron@dogbook ron]$ That is an unmodified /etc/fstab from a new YDL3.0 install. Hope that helps, -Ron Bmhome1@aol.com wrote: > I managed to bork my YDL3 install by accidentally deleting my /etc/fstab file > while editing it. On startup I get "Warning: couldn't open /etc/fstab: No > such file or directory." Reinstalling isn't an issue but would like the > learning experience if recreating the /etc/fstab file is possible either > manually or via install rescue with CD. My partitions are hda16 for ext3 and > hda15 for swap. Any guidance gratefully appreciated. I'm not afraid to lose > current install trying, there's nothing that can't be reinstalled. > > Thanks! > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 16 22:01:46 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Dylan Hand) Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 02:01:46 +0500 Subject: What a Weenie In-Reply-To: <200305151652.51841.angela@kahealani.com> References: <200305152142.44831.smoore@gustavus.edu> <200305151652.51841.angela@kahealani.com> Message-ID: <1053118905.3640.8.camel@ibook> First, what does that have to do with the question. Second, Have you heard of Mac OS X? I guess not. Have a nice day Dylan. On Fri, 2003-05-16 at 07:52, Angela Kahealani wrote: > > Must we use the command line? > > No, you can adopt an OS that fails to provide one... like Mac. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 17 05:40:57 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Derick Centeno) Date: 17 May 2003 00:40:57 -0400 Subject: yellowdog-newbie digest, Vol 1 #460 - Message 4 + 5 In-Reply-To: <20030516180009.EED401FB96@newhope.terraplex.com> References: <20030516180009.EED401FB96@newhope.terraplex.com> Message-ID: <1053146456.1000.141.camel@arakus> There is an interesting story with these two messages and the group of people they represent. First, there is a confusion between developed products such as Anaconda by companies such as TerraSoft Solutions and what is defined as Open Source. You can't blame them really as even now SCO is confused enough to actually trying to consider suing every Linux user because they believe that Linux Open Source code, including KDE and Gnome, WindowMaker and others is actually their own UNIX code. As a pure Scorpio, whose ruler is Mars, I enjoy a really good fray and will glady pick up some hot dogs and popcorn, cheer and egg on all sides and watch everything go BOOM! But I also have some compassion like, Shiva, another God of War, does and have some sense to not enjoy an utterly useless and nonsensical effort. At least, I remember being told I had compassion; OK, maybe I don't. First Scott. Sir, you cannot sincerely expect work (graphical interfaces) such as the graphical interface which installs YDL to appear willy nilly on SUSE Linux supporting a 386 box!! The closest you may have come to that kind of support would have been purchasing the Red Hat version of Linux, which at least YDL utilizes to some extent. Scott and Angela You both really have no idea what Operating Systems you are dealing with. Your comments reveal how really innocent both of you really are (regarding this subject), and although this is a new users list. Even new users should have read or be studying what Unix and Linux and Mac OS X are. Stated in one sentence, from Mac OS X forward, ALL Macs using OS X, are defined as using a standard of Unix, known as BSD Unix which is SUPERIOR and MORE STABLE than any Linux version. As ALL such defined Macs are UNIX boxes essentially that means the command line is available at all times to the user that has researched sufficiently well on how to access and utilize it. The command line interface which Mac OS X, all Linux, and all other Unix's are built around is way way superior to anything DOS is capable of. It is because DOS has severe, systemic, performance and security limitations that Unix was developed in the first place. Which means there are unimagined possible utilities to be yet developed for the common masses via Open Source which, yes, ANY Unix, including Mac OS X, can take advantage of. This also means that the Mac OS is now more stable than any version of DOS or the Microsoft OS, can ever hope to be. By fact and by studies, (yes, you can find these studies published in the net from time to time) Unix servers and workstations NEVER crash or fail. The best answer Microsoft has to that is to copy back the prior state of the Microsoft OS prior TO whatever made it crash. This is all public information; everyone "knows" this stuff. So, Scott, why are you using a German repackaged Linux when Linux was developed in the US? I will admit to being tempted myself, all that spiffy talk of German engineering and such. But you, like Angela, went over to the PC, so why are you here?? To Lament?? Sing Auld Lang Syne?? Switching to Linux is great, switching to Linux on a 386 or higher acceptable (we could discuss code snippets, widgets, all sorts of stuff), but switching to Microsoft OS on any PC is just plain silly!! You did know that customer support for most PC vendors could be in Russia,Britain or Ireland or even India or Pakistan! Also as PCs have a very low level of standardization to the point that many times the floppy drive of one machine can't read the format created from its neighbor produced by the same company; and chips and other components fail from time to time (this happens to EVERY company, amazing how many people don't know that), even so you are very much on your own seeking support. It may interest you to know, although it may be little comfort, that Apple has consistently remained number 1 in overall design and engineering. How hard is that? Very... Again, both of you are now using PCs and/or have not done your Linux or Unix homework. So why are you here? I am sure you will not enjoy the dry and often incomprehensible writing which engineers typically engage in on a regular basis, assuming knowledge which most non-engineers do not have... Too bad... welcome to the world, no the Universe that is Unix and scientific programming. And let's not forget Math; not those silly magic number boxes of the middle ages but truth tables and advanced calculus as starting points. After all, serious explorers of the universe can't get by on just the math Pythagoras knew. Get your dictionary, various library references together with your thinking caps on folks because you, and every other "newbie", including myself, is in for what I heard one movie character say, "Get ready for a World of Pain! Sweet, Beautiful and Wonderful Pain!!" After you've done that don't forget to explore CPU design principles and understand, as best you can, the differences and advantages of RISC v. CISC design; then you'll appreciate and know that, if not how to utilize, the power of either Intel's or Motorola's CPU is something truly awesome. After that study you should be settled on staying either with an Intel or Risc box or even Sun or other system as a personal workstation, and you'll know why you will have chosen it from as close to an engineers perspective without being an engineer. As opposed to hype heard on TV or the local sales outlet or "friend" or "relative". Of course, one could close one's eyes to the challenge of real science and reality in particular and become like Pramahansa Yogi (author of The Bhagavadgita: As It Is) who as a meditation master announced that space travel was a useless activity as had had traveled throughout the Universe and been to the Moon already. He announced that the Moon was made of Diamonds... Of course, being proven wrong after the first Moon landing didn't matter to him. He died insisting modern science didn't have the "correct information". One can't live that kind of life of course and be current regarding science and operating systems. Come On, Step Up And Beyond Weeniehood!!! On Fri, 2003-05-16 at 14:00, -- > D. Scott Moore, Bass Trombone > Music Department > Gustavus Adolphus College > Saint Peter, Minnesota 56082 > (507) 933-6260 > smoore@gustavus.edu > > --__--__-- > > Message: 4 > From: "D. Scott Moore" > To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > Subject: What a Weenie > Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 21:42:44 -0500 > Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > > Maybe I have been spoiled by my recent success with SuSE 8.2 for 386 machines, > but I miss the graphical software installer on my YDL 3.0 machine. How do we > install more packages from the CDs? Must we use the command line? > -- > D. Scott Moore, Bass Trombone > Music Department > Gustavus Adolphus College > Saint Peter, Minnesota 56082 > (507) 933-6260 > smoore@gustavus.edu > > --__--__-- > > Message: 5 > From: Angela Kahealani > Organization: ANGELA KAHEALANI > To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com, > "D. Scott Moore" > Subject: Re: What a Weenie > Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 16:52:51 -1000 > Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > > On Thu, 2003-05-15 16:42, D. Scott Moore wrote: > > Maybe I have been spoiled by my recent success with SuSE 8.2 for 386 > > machines, > > ...and your recent multiposting on the newdogs list... > complete with inappropriate Subject: line too. > > > but I miss the graphical software installer on my YDL 3.0 > > machine. > > well, maybe you left the .iso around... > but most likely the installer is on a CD, not on your machine. > > > How do we install more packages from the CDs? > > That is correct. These would be Install CD 1, Install CD 2... > > > Must we use the command line? > > No, you can adopt an OS that fails to provide one... like Mac. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 17 11:44:14 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Jonas Sundstrom) Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 12:44:14 +0200 CEST Subject: yellowdog-newbie digest In-Reply-To: <1053146456.1000.141.camel@arakus> Message-ID: <5834020757-BeMail@host> Derick Centeno wrote: ... > First Scott. > Sir, you cannot sincerely expect work (graphical interfaces) > such as the graphical interface which installs YDL to appear > willy nilly on SUSE Linux supporting a 386 box!! The closest > you may have come to that kind of support would have been > purchasing the Red Hat version of Linux, which at least YDL > utilizes to some extent. Hey, you're jumping the gun here.. He's asking for a graphical package management app, for use -with YDL-. (similar to what is available in many other distros, like Suse, for example) ... > ALL Macs using OS X, are defined as using a standard > of Unix, known as BSD Unix which is SUPERIOR and > MORE STABLE than any Linux version. Superior is a very strong word to be using. Remember that this is just an operating system. This kind of 'advocacy' does more harm than good. I also wonder why you're here on the YDL list when you clearly prefer Darwin/MacOS X. > As ALL such defined Macs are UNIX boxes essentially > that means the command line is available at all times > to the user that has researched sufficiently well on how to > access and utilize it. The command line interface which > Mac OS X, all Linux, and all other Unix's are built around > is way way superior to anything DOS is capable of. It looks like you're just as not- up2date as Angela here. You can't buy a new PC with anything DOS-based anymore. Those with older computers running Win9x/ME (the deprecated DOS-branch of Microsofts platform offerings) would have to be compared to earlier Macs (603/604 based=3F) running earlier systems (System 7=3F) ... > the Mac OS is now more stable than any version > of DOS or the Microsoft OS, can ever hope to be. Much can be said for Microsofts business tactics, but to rule out the possibility of them ever delivering something really good is just foolish. > Unix servers and workstations NEVER crash or fail. Yes they do, occasionally, depending on the quality of your device drivers. User apps and system servers (AKA daemons) each run in their own protected space, but device drivers (kernel extensions, whatever) run in the kernel's adress space, (for performance reasons) and if one crashes the entire OS crashes. Ever heard of a 'kernel panic' =3F Linux and the BSD-based plaftorms are equally susceptible to this. There's a kernel/platform design called micro-kernel, where drivers, too, run in protected space, like www.qnx.com for example, but the common perception is that monolithic (addon-loading) kernels such as that of Linux, Darwin, WindowsNT/2000 (=3F), BeOS, etc, have better performance. There's also the issue of hardware failure. Traditionally, vendors of Unix servers (as well as other non-Unix server platforms) usually sell you their own hardware, with quality hardware (quality engineered, multiple redundant parts of all that essentiall components, fans, power, memory, processors, etc), and quality (close to bugfree) device drivers. Plus the system has a few quality server apps to run, filesharing, databased, email, etc. That's why those computers have a close to 100% uptime. It's not magic, it's the strenght of the weakest link. ... > So, Scott, why are you using a German repackaged > Linux when Linux was developed in the US=3F Linux was started in Finland. It's an international project. (Red Hat is just a distro, not the original, in case anyone's wondering. In fact, Linux is just the kernel, the rest: CLI, GUI, apps, utilities, is just bundling. Almost all of the software usually found in a Linux distro, that people interface with, either via CLI or GUI, can be used on other Unix (and similar) platforms too.) > I will admit to being tempted myself, all that spiffy talk of > German engineering and such. But you, like Angela, went > over to the PC, so why are you here=3F=3F To Lament=3F=3F > Sing Auld Lang Syne=3F=3F Some of us have both x86 -and- PowerPC harware. There's no need for hostility. ... > but switching to Microsoft OS on any PC is just plain silly!! > You did know that customer support for most PC vendors > could be in Russia,Britain or Ireland or even India or Pakistan! I'm in Sweden, and I think my Apple support is in Ireland. No big deal. > PCs have a very low level of standardization to the point > that many times the floppy drive of one machine can't > read the format created from its neighbor Come on... This is just FUD. I've never heard of anyone having this problem. Besides, who uses floppies anymore=3F Given the huge amount of PC hardware, there's bound to be the occasional "bad apple". (no pun intended) Apple hardware is usually great, but PC hardware is not as bad as you make it out to be. Conclusion: lighten up and embrace the world: Multiple races, nations, software and hardware platforms. /Jonas Sundstr=F6m. www.kirilla.com From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 17 12:00:20 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (MB) Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 04:00:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Update briQ firmware and YDL Message-ID: <20030517110020.18802.qmail@web13306.mail.yahoo.com> Hello, I try to update briq firmware and YDL 3,0 so I follow the Howto on http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/support/solutions/hardware/briQ.shtml First I modify /etc/apt/sources.list to point to the correct locations, then I do apt-get update. I get many lines (about 9) saying: "Unable to fetch file, server said '/pub/yellowdog/apt/3.0/base/pkglist.extr a.bz2: No such file or directory" (each for a different package of course) How can I correct this? Thanks, Marc __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 17 17:08:40 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com) Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 10:08:40 -0600 Subject: No video...all is darkness... In-Reply-To: <20030516180009.EED401FB96@newhope.terraplex.com> References: <20030516180009.EED401FB96@newhope.terraplex.com> Message-ID: <1053187720.3ec65e88e57e6@ydl.net> Hi, I have tried to install YDL 2, and now YDL 3 on several machines, with not much success. My latest attempt at an installation: YDL 3 on a Power Center 150, lots of ram, YDL installed on a 3 gig SCSI external hard drive, Applevision 17 monitor. Both attempts started with a clean hard drive, low level format, all data zeroed. Attempt #1...Installation went fine. Installation program worked great. I specified graphical login screen. Booted in Linux, and screen went black (with maybe one or two flickers of some text) when it got to the graphical login. Attempt #2...Installatin went fine. Installation program worked great. I specified text login screen. Booted in Linux, and text-based login and password prompts came as expected. Screen went black, but you could tell that KDE was loading because it made that little rhythmical sound while loading the KDE desktop. So obviously YDL does not like the video settings of some sort. I've specified both 800 x 600 and thousands of colors, and 1024 x 768 and thousands of colors. I didn't know how much video ram to specify during YDL installation, because I don't know how to figure that out. The default was 2 megs, so I went with that. Any clues? I really would like to get YDL running on SOMETHING. I also tried on an all-in-one-beige-G3, but it would only show the installation program in distorted weird colors, on the left half of the screen. How a common person is ever to use YDL, is beyond me, but I keep trying. Thanks R. Jay Goos -------------------------------------------- YDL.net - The online community for Yellow Dog Linux users From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 17 17:39:46 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Francis Maier) Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 10:39:46 -0600 Subject: No video...all is darkness... Message-ID: <0FB2DF78E0BA44428DB52BFA47E40B43D8233B@stafford> Amen to this. I have now attempted for a week (20+ times and ways) to install YDL 3 on my beige PowerMac G3 -- external hard drive, reformatting my internal drive, etc., etc. So far it's been nothing but frustration. One freeze after another. With Madrake, at least I can get it to install. Fran Maier -----Original Message----- From: rjgoos@ydl.net [mailto:rjgoos@ydl.net] Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 10:09 AM To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Subject: No video...all is darkness... Hi, I have tried to install YDL 2, and now YDL 3 on several machines, with not much success. My latest attempt at an installation: YDL 3 on a Power Center 150, lots of ram, YDL installed on a 3 gig SCSI external hard drive, Applevision 17 monitor. Both attempts started with a clean hard drive, low level format, all data zeroed. Attempt #1...Installation went fine. Installation program worked great. I specified graphical login screen. Booted in Linux, and screen went black (with maybe one or two flickers of some text) when it got to the graphical login. Attempt #2...Installatin went fine. Installation program worked great. I specified text login screen. Booted in Linux, and text-based login and password prompts came as expected. Screen went black, but you could tell that KDE was loading because it made that little rhythmical sound while loading the KDE desktop. So obviously YDL does not like the video settings of some sort. I've specified both 800 x 600 and thousands of colors, and 1024 x 768 and thousands of colors. I didn't know how much video ram to specify during YDL installation, because I don't know how to figure that out. The default was 2 megs, so I went with that. Any clues? I really would like to get YDL running on SOMETHING. I also tried on an all-in-one-beige-G3, but it would only show the installation program in distorted weird colors, on the left half of the screen. How a common person is ever to use YDL, is beyond me, but I keep trying. Thanks R. Jay Goos -------------------------------------------- YDL.net - The online community for Yellow Dog Linux users _______________________________________________ yellowdog-newbie mailing list yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 17 18:35:19 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (iindigo) Date: 17 May 2003 13:35:19 -0400 Subject: Some dumb newbie questions... Message-ID: <1053192918.7167.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi! Just got YDL 3 installed - pretty snappy! Writing this in Evolution... and I thought I would have to pay the big $$$ for all of Entourage/Outlook's goodies! Anyway, this is my first time experience in any Linux I have a few questions on how to do a few things: 1. How do I access/mount my iDisk? 2. How do I mount my Mac OS partitions? 3. How do I extract file formats other than .gz's (.sit, .zip, etc.)? 4. How do I mount my PC's shares? I am also having a problem. I cannot seem to mount any CD's - It always says something like "Problem mounting, due to bad block or too many mounted filesystems." Thanks! iindigo From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 17 19:49:37 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Jerome Lefebvre) Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 14:49:37 -0400 Subject: Installation from firewire disk target mode possible? Message-ID: <7582320.1053197377158.JavaMail.jelefebvre@mac.com> Hello, Trying to install YDL 3.0 on an old Pismo laptop ( g3 400 mhz, firewire ), first linux install as well. Problem I'm having is that the cd-rom drive is broken, been using an usb cd-rom reader instead, works fine for everything, expect booting from it using a YDL cd (burned it myself, but seems fine). I'm thinking I could use the firewire disk target mode on my pismo, and then run the installer from an other machine. Would this option work? I'm just worried it will fail since the installer won't know much of the targeted machine. Thank you for any help. Jerome Lefebvre From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 17 20:46:56 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Jean-patrick) Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 21:46:56 +0200 Subject: Non-destructive partitioning tool? References: Message-ID: <3EC691B0.4E41B2E2@wanadoo.fr> try gnuparted, http://xilun666.free.fr/parted-1.6.5-hfs-6.patch jp iindigo lop a *crit : > > Does such a thing exist? > > Thanks! > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun May 18 01:37:13 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (gelsey) Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 20:37:13 -0400 Subject: questions Message-ID: <2972053296d5e6.296d5e62972053@icomcast.net> Hi, I finally got 3.0 installed on my eMac last Friday (yay!) I'm really happy and excited about finally having Linux installed on my computer. However, I have a few questions regarding the use of Linux.. 1. If the 'eject cdrom' command opens the cdrom, then is there a command to close it? Right now I just push the tray back into the computer after I'm finished putting in or taking out a cd. 2. I want to create a wireless network with a PC running Windows 98 as the server, and my Linux box as the client, so I can share my internet connection between the two. How do I do that? Do I use Samba, or is that for file and printer sharing only? How do I configure the Airport? If anyone could help me with these, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks, Gelsey From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun May 18 02:09:42 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Jason DeVita) Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 21:09:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: questions In-Reply-To: <2972053296d5e6.296d5e62972053@icomcast.net> Message-ID: I don't know anything about wireless networks, but I do know how to close the cdrom tray! "eject -t cdrom" And, for future reference, the fastest way to learn tricks like that is to look at the man pages. To find out what I just told you above (and more), type "man eject". -J On Sat, 17 May 2003, gelsey wrote: > Hi, > > I finally got 3.0 installed on my eMac last Friday (yay!) I'm really > happy and excited about finally having Linux installed on my computer. > However, I have a few questions regarding the use of Linux.. > > 1. If the 'eject cdrom' command opens the cdrom, then is there a > command to close it? Right now I just push the tray back into the > computer after I'm finished putting in or taking out a cd. > > 2. I want to create a wireless network with a PC running Windows 98 as > the server, and my Linux box as the client, so I can share my internet > connection between the two. How do I do that? Do I use Samba, or is > that for file and printer sharing only? How do I configure the Airport? > > If anyone could help me with these, I'd really appreciate it. > > Thanks, > > Gelsey > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun May 18 19:17:32 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (iindigo) Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 14:17:32 -0400 Subject: Some dumb newbie questions... In-Reply-To: <1053192918.7167.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: Hi! Just got YDL 3 installed - pretty snappy! Writing this in Evolution... and I thought I would have to pay the big $$$ for all of Entourage/Outlook's goodies! Anyway, this is my first time on any Linux distro. I have a few questions on how to do a few things: 1. How do I access/mount my iDisk? 2. How do I mount my Mac OS partitions? 3. How do I extract file formats other than .gz's (.sit, .zip, etc.)? 4. How do I mount my PC's shares? I am also having a problem. I cannot seem to mount any CD's - It always says something like "Problem mounting, due to bad block or too many mounted filesystems." Can this be fixed? Thanks! iindigo _______________________________________________ yellowdog-newbie mailing list yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun May 18 20:35:08 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Monica Flynn) Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 19:35:08 +0000 Subject: Downloading trouble!! Message-ID: Please Help, Having serious problems with my imac, every time I try downloading anything it just say "ERROR" straight away in the download manager section. Any ideas or suggestions on how to fix this would be very much appreciated! Mika.. _________________________________________________________________ Worried what your kids see online? Protect them better with MSN 8 http://join.msn.com/?page=features/parental&pgmarket=en-gb&XAPID=186&DI=1059 From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun May 18 23:56:06 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Richard Osmond) Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 23:56:06 +0100 Subject: Wallstreet won't go into OS X Message-ID: I've installed YDL 3.0 on my Wallstreet powerbook without problems (well, not many :) ) but I cannot boot into MacOS X. The Wallstreet uses BootX, and I have only one drive, nevertheless I did check for the Apple_bootstrap bug thing. That's not the problem it would seem. When I select OS X (10.2.6) in the Startup Disk control panel under OS9, and then restart, it jumps up immediately with a Default Catch error, and dumps me into Open Firmware. Neither typing Boot nor Bye (as instructed onscreen) does anything. The only solution is to boot into OS9 with the install CD and reset Startup Disk to OS9. I have tried everything I know, including zapping PRAM, and nothing helps Ideas? From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun May 18 23:55:19 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Richard Osmond) Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 23:55:19 +0100 Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: I've installed YDL 3.0 on my Wallstreet powerbook without problems (well, not many :) ) but I cannot boot into MacOS X. The Wallstreet uses BootX, and I have only one drive, nevertheless I did check for the Apple_bootstrap bug thing. That's not the problem it would seem. When I select OS X (10.2.6) in the Startup Disk control panel under OS9, and then restart, it jumps up immediately with a Default Catch error, and dumps me into Open Firmware. Neither typing Boot nor Bye (as instructed onscreen) does anything. The only solution is to boot into OS9 with the install CD and reset Startup Disk to OS9. I have tried everything I know, including zapping PRAM, and nothing helps Ideas? From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon May 19 00:24:16 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Chad Tudor) Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 15:24:16 -0800 Subject: PPPoE, DSL with YellowDog 3.0 Message-ID: --Apple-Mail-6--168870950 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hello, Anybody connecting to the Internet using PPPoE with YellowDog 3.0? I am eagerly awaiting my CDs from Terasoft. The reason I ask is because X11 and OS-X's shells do not recognize my PPPoE, but they recognize the wireless network at my University. Thanks, Chad Tudor ctudor@acsalaska.net P.O. Box 210506 Auke Bay, Alaska 99821 (907) 789-1628 --Apple-Mail-6--168870950 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Hello, Anybody connecting to the Internet using PPPoE with YellowDog 3.0? I am eagerly awaiting my CDs from Terasoft. The reason I ask is because X11 and OS-X's shells do not recognize my PPPoE, but they recognize the wireless network at my University. Thanks, Chad Tudor 2023,222E,FFFFctudor@acsalaska.net 06CA,6717,1E01P.O. Box 210506 Auke Bay, Alaska 99821 8B00,12AE,193D(907) 789-1628 --Apple-Mail-6--168870950-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon May 19 00:38:32 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Paul Green) Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 19:38:32 -0400 Subject: flashplayer Message-ID: <3EC81978.6040602@earthlink.net> Is there a flashplayer to download for YDL 3.0? From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon May 19 01:00:20 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Andrew McVinnie) Date: 18 May 2003 18:00:20 -0600 Subject: Airport, YDL 3 and a 12" Powerbook Message-ID: <1053302418.1037.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi All, I'm new to YDL 3.0. Tried 2.3 for a bit. Very happy with 3.0! In 2.3 there was a HowTo for manually configuring Airport Cards with Kernal 2.4.x, specifiaclly at this address: http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/support/solutions/ydl_general/airport24.shtml I am unable to find ANY info on configuring an Airport Card in 3.0. Will the same HOWTO still work? YDL 3.0 still seems to be using kernal 2.4.x. If SO, will it work on an Airport Extreme Card in an 12" Powerbook? I would guess so, but it would be limited it to 802.11b rather than 802.11g,which is ok, since I only have an original airport base anyway. Thanks, Andrew McVinnie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon May 19 01:08:02 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Scott Kellogg) Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 19:08:02 -0500 Subject: Airport, YDL 3 and a 12" Powerbook In-Reply-To: <1053302418.1037.10.camel@localhost.localdomain>; from lintila@mac.com on Sun, May 18, 2003 at 06:00:20PM -0600 References: <1053302418.1037.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030518190802.A2284@mayhem.kiva.net> > If SO, will it work on an Airport Extreme Card in an 12" Powerbook? I > would guess so, but it would be limited it to 802.11b rather than > 802.11g,which is ok, since I only have an original airport base anyway. I recall reading somewhere on Yellow Dog's site that Airport Extreme is not yet supported. I don't know if that means the Extreme cards, or the protocol. /Scott From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon May 19 04:12:40 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Nils Crompton) Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 13:12:40 +1000 Subject: flashplayer In-Reply-To: <3EC81978.6040602@earthlink.net> Message-ID: On Monday, May 19, 2003, at 09:38 AM, Paul Green wrote: > Is there a flashplayer to download for YDL 3.0? Sign the petition mate. nils From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon May 19 07:07:18 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Nigel Horne) Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 07:07:18 +0100 Subject: flashplayer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200305190707.18803.njh@bandsman.co.uk> On Monday 19 May 2003 4:12 am, Nils Crompton wrote: > On Monday, May 19, 2003, at 09:38 AM, Paul Green wrote: > > Is there a flashplayer to download for YDL 3.0? > > Sign the petition mate. As previously noted, the petition requires fields to be filled in that can't be filled in unless you're in America, so it's useless for most people. > nils -Nigel -- Nigel Horne. Arranger, Composer, Typesetter. NJH Music, Barnsley, UK. ICQ#20252325 njh@despammed.com http://www.bandsman.co.uk From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon May 19 09:24:54 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Suzanne Payne) Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 09:24:54 +0100 Subject: questions In-Reply-To: <2972053296d5e6.296d5e62972053@icomcast.net> References: <2972053296d5e6.296d5e62972053@icomcast.net> Message-ID: <2147483647.1053336294@beefcake.alcina.org> --On Saturday, May 17, 2003 8:37 pm -0400 gelsey wrote: > 2. I want to create a wireless network with a PC running Windows 98 as > the server, and my Linux box as the client, so I can share my internet > connection between the two. How do I do that? Do I use Samba, or is > that for file and printer sharing only? How do I configure the Airport? This isn't really a Linux question but a Win98 question: How to I set up my Win98 machine to share its internet connection over a wireless network? You'd need to ask a Win98 mailing list that question. Are you sure you wouldn't prefer to do it the other way round? As far as setting up your airport on the YDL machine - although I've not setup wireless on YDL I should assume, once you have a signal, that you simply fill in the details much the same as you would with a normal ethernet connection: 1) if the server is DHCPing simply set your airport settings to obtain everything dynamically. 2) if the server isn't DHCPing use the following settings: IP: Unique IP number to your YDL machine eg. 192.168.1.6 Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 (in the case of 192.168.X.X) Router/Gateway: IP number of your Win98 machine. DNS: Probably the IP number of your Win98 machine Suzanne From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon May 19 14:17:33 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Nils Crompton) Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 23:17:33 +1000 Subject: flashplayer In-Reply-To: <200305190707.18803.njh@bandsman.co.uk> Message-ID: <406B4794-89FC-11D7-AC58-00306559ED64@mac.com> On Monday, May 19, 2003, at 04:07 PM, Nigel Horne wrote: > On Monday 19 May 2003 4:12 am, Nils Crompton wrote: >> On Monday, May 19, 2003, at 09:38 AM, Paul Green wrote: >>> Is there a flashplayer to download for YDL 3.0? >> >> Sign the petition mate. > > As previously noted, the petition requires fields to be filled in that > can't be filled in unless > you're in America, so it's useless for most people. No, it doesn't have US only fields. You are wrong. Anyone can fill it in. Follow this link for flash petition: http://www.wizdev.net/petFlash-add.html Nils From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon May 19 17:07:14 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (David Purdy) Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 09:07:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Howto?: network a Beige OSX and 7600 YDL2.3 Message-ID: <20030519160714.45220.qmail@web41106.mail.yahoo.com> Help! I want to network a Beige OSX machine with a PowerMac 7600 YDL 2.3 machine. I know how set up a simple (cross-over cable) network with the same Beige OSX machine and an iBook OS9 machine. I've tried the basics/listed how to's...but my knowledge how to...is...well...really basic. So, how to? (i'll need the gorey details...*really* spelled out)... Thanks, Dave __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon May 19 17:08:16 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (David Purdy) Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 09:08:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Howto?: network a Beige OSX and 7600 YDL2.3 Message-ID: <20030519160816.45507.qmail@web41106.mail.yahoo.com> Help! I want to network a Beige OSX machine with a PowerMac 7600 YDL 2.3 machine. I know how set up a simple (cross-over cable) network with the same Beige OSX machine and an iBook OS9 machine. I've tried the basics/listed how to's...but my knowledge how to...is...well...really basic. So, how to? (i'll need the gorey details...*really* spelled out)... Thanks, Dave __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon May 19 19:49:21 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Ron Smith) Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 11:49:21 -0700 Subject: Howto?: network a Beige OSX and 7600 YDL2.3 In-Reply-To: <20030519160816.45507.qmail@web41106.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9A3FC648-8A2A-11D7-A1D7-003065B10FF6@ydl.net> They will need to be connected physically, then configured logically. Physically what you will probably want to do is get a simple ethernet hub. Instead of using the crossover cable, you will use a straight-through cable to go from each machine to the hub. Once they are physically wired to the hub they will be able to "see" each other when you get the logical configuration correct. For the logical configuration you will need to set their IP address and netmasks to be on the same subnet. For instance you could configure the Beige OS X machine to be IP address 10.10.10.5 with a netmask of 255.255.255.0 then configure the PowerMac to be 10.10.10.6 with a netmask of 255.255.255.0 With both of them plugged into the hub (or with a crossover cable) they should be able to ping each other. If you are using the Beige OS X machine you would open up a terminal and use the command: ping 10.10.10.6 and it should return something similar to: 64 bytes from 10.10.10.6: icmp_seq=0 ttl=52 time=32.408 ms 64 bytes from 10.10.10.6: icmp_seq=1 ttl=52 time=43.476 ms 64 bytes from 10.10.10.6: icmp_seq=2 ttl=52 time=75.493 ms You will have to C to make it stop! =) At that point they are networked together and you can share files or use whatever network applications that you want to use. I hope that helps. -Ron On Monday, May 19, 2003, at 09:08 AM, David Purdy wrote: > Help! > > I want to network a Beige OSX machine with a PowerMac > 7600 YDL 2.3 machine. > > I know how set up a simple (cross-over cable) network > with the same Beige OSX machine and an iBook OS9 > machine. > > I've tried the basics/listed how to's...but my > knowledge how to...is...well...really basic. > > So, how to? (i'll need the gorey details...*really* > spelled out)... > > Thanks, > > Dave > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > http://search.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon May 19 20:45:00 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (James A. Ricken) Date: 19 May 2003 14:45:00 -0500 Subject: How do you install packages on yellowdog 3.0? Message-ID: <1053373499.1086.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi everyone I was wondering how to install rpm packages on yellow dog 3.0? I am trying to install opera 7.11 and I do not have a clue what to do Can anyone help? Jim From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon May 19 20:58:02 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Enphilistor) Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 15:58:02 -0400 Subject: How do you install packages on yellowdog 3.0? In-Reply-To: <1053373499.1086.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <32D7320B-8A34-11D7-A58B-9A19FD3B5C9C@ydl.net> Jim, Open up a terminal window (a shell). In that window become the root user -- type su and give the root password when challenged. Depending on which version of Opera you've downloaded the next line might change slightly but type something like: rpm -ihv opera-7.11-20030515.1-static-qt.ppc.rpm You'll see a couple of lines of ########### characters and perhaps some warning messages complaining about users and/or groups -- you can ignore those. Then type "exit" or "ctrl-D" to return to being a normal user. You're done. Enphilistor On Monday, May 19, 2003, at 03:45 PM, James A. Ricken wrote: > Hi everyone > I was wondering how to install rpm packages on yellow dog 3.0? > I am trying to install opera 7.11 and I do not have a clue what to do > > Can anyone help? > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon May 19 21:20:11 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (David Purdy) Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 13:20:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Howto?: network a Beige OSX and 7600 YDL2.3 In-Reply-To: <9A3FC648-8A2A-11D7-A1D7-003065B10FF6@ydl.net> Message-ID: <20030519202011.36081.qmail@web41108.mail.yahoo.com> Thanks Ron: I will try the ping, after making sure the physical and logical setups are complete. I already applied the 2.3 fix describe on the HowTo pages, to fix netatalk. If I may be so bold...a few questions... Q0. Can I still network the two via the crossovercable? Does the connection **have** to go through a router? Q1: Do I configure the machines via the respective configuring devices: mac osX box <-> Network System Preferences ydl 2.3 box <-> redhat-config-network ...? Q2: What commands/programs do I use to actually see/connect to the other machine, to see it on a desktop? Go To Server in Mac OSX? What will that access look like in Linux/YDL- ie. do I brows to it or what, in Linux? Q4. Is what you describe an AppleTalk-based connection, or is it some other protocol? Thanks, Dave --- Ron Smith wrote: > They will need to be connected physically, then > configured logically. > > Physically what you will probably want to do is get > a simple ethernet > hub. Instead of using the crossover cable, you will > use a > straight-through cable to go from each machine to > the hub. Once they > are physically wired to the hub they will be able to > "see" each other > when you get the logical configuration correct. > > For the logical configuration you will need to set > their IP address and > netmasks to be on the same subnet. For instance you > could configure the > Beige OS X machine to be IP address 10.10.10.5 with > a netmask of > 255.255.255.0 then configure the PowerMac to be > 10.10.10.6 with a > netmask of 255.255.255.0 With both of them plugged > into the hub (or > with a crossover cable) they should be able to ping > each other. If you > are using the Beige OS X machine you would open up a > terminal and use > the command: > > ping 10.10.10.6 > > and it should return something similar to: > > 64 bytes from 10.10.10.6: icmp_seq=0 ttl=52 > time=32.408 ms > 64 bytes from 10.10.10.6: icmp_seq=1 ttl=52 > time=43.476 ms > 64 bytes from 10.10.10.6: icmp_seq=2 ttl=52 > time=75.493 ms > > You will have to C to make it stop! =) > > At that point they are networked together and you > can share files or > use whatever network applications that you want to > use. > > I hope that helps. > > -Ron > > On Monday, May 19, 2003, at 09:08 AM, David Purdy > wrote: > > > Help! > > > > I want to network a Beige OSX machine with a > PowerMac > > 7600 YDL 2.3 machine. > > > > I know how set up a simple (cross-over cable) > network > > with the same Beige OSX machine and an iBook OS9 > > machine. > > > > I've tried the basics/listed how to's...but my > > knowledge how to...is...well...really basic. > > > > So, how to? (i'll need the gorey > details...*really* > > spelled out)... > > > > Thanks, > > > > Dave > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > http://search.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > > > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > > > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon May 19 21:23:49 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Andrew McVinnie) Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 14:23:49 -0600 Subject: How do you install packages on yellowdog 3.0? In-Reply-To: <32D7320B-8A34-11D7-A58B-9A19FD3B5C9C@ydl.net> Message-ID: Hi This answers my question as well. However, do yo have to know the path of the file you downloaded? or will the RPM command in the terminal just know where it is? For example, I downloaded Opera and put the .rpm file on my desktop. Will this work? Or does the rpm command in the terminal actually download the appication too? Another related question, after installing with the RPM command, will Opera automaticly be in my Gnome menus? or will I have to add it or something? Thanks Andrew McVinnie On Monday, May 19, 2003, at 01:58 PM, Enphilistor wrote: > Jim, > > Open up a terminal window (a shell). In that window become the root > user -- type su and give the root password when challenged. Depending > on which version of Opera you've downloaded the next line might change > slightly but type something like: > > rpm -ihv opera-7.11-20030515.1-static-qt.ppc.rpm > > You'll see a couple of lines of ########### characters and perhaps > some warning > messages complaining about users and/or groups -- you can ignore > those. Then > type "exit" or "ctrl-D" to return to being a normal user. You're done. > > Enphilistor > > On Monday, May 19, 2003, at 03:45 PM, James A. Ricken wrote: > >> Hi everyone >> I was wondering how to install rpm packages on yellow dog 3.0? >> I am trying to install opera 7.11 and I do not have a clue what to do >> >> Can anyone help? >> >> Jim >> >> _______________________________________________ >> yellowdog-newbie mailing list >> yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >> http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie >> > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon May 19 22:14:08 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Derick Centeno) Date: 19 May 2003 17:14:08 -0400 Subject: yellowdog-newbie digest, Vol 1 #463 - Response to Message 1 In-Reply-To: <20030519180105.414C21FC3A@newhope.terraplex.com> References: <20030519180105.414C21FC3A@newhope.terraplex.com> Message-ID: <1053378848.1513.36.camel@arakus> There exists a nifty program called Mac-on-Linux which allows the Mac OS to run within the YDL environment. It can either take over your entire screen (while you are in Linux) or it can run within a window at the same time you are running Linux apps. Within Mac On Linux you will see whatever partitions the Mac OS normally sees; and you have access (which is really really weird) to every Mac OS application with one or two exceptions. One exception I discovered is that you will confuse the Mac if you tell it to access your modem in any way while it is running within Mac On Linux; remember it is running within a Linux window after all which means that the pppdaemon controls the modem, not the Mac. I must admit however this limitation may have been overcome in the current version of Mac On Linux That should address all 4 of your questions. It is theoretically; that is, it should be possible, to run Mac On Linux such that when the Mac OS is in its window it is also running within a Mac window a PC environment!! That is a bit strange for most people but try it out. You won't know until you try it. Maybe as you gravitate more to Linux you'll leave behind both the Mac OS and the PC environment. You'll see what I mean when you start working with Open Office and how flexible the YDL environment is. Warning; don't expect to find TerraSoft's capabilities and thoughtful products such as Anaconda in other distros or even on other PPC's running Linux or even Red Hat or other Linux running on a Intel or knock-off chip. > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 14:17:32 -0400 > Subject: Some dumb newbie questions... > From: iindigo > To: > Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > > Hi! > > Just got YDL 3 installed - pretty snappy! > > Writing this in Evolution... and I thought I would have to pay the big > $$$ for all of Entourage/Outlook's goodies! > > Anyway, this is my first time on any Linux distro. I have a few > questions on how to do a few things: > > > 1. How do I access/mount my iDisk? > 2. How do I mount my Mac OS partitions? > 3. How do I extract file formats other than .gz's (.sit, .zip, etc.)? > 4. How do I mount my PC's shares? > > > I am also having a problem. I cannot seem to mount any CD's - It always > says something like "Problem mounting, due to bad block or too many > mounted filesystems." Can this be fixed? > > > Thanks! > > iindigo > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon May 19 23:08:51 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (ron) Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 15:08:51 -0700 Subject: Howto?: network a Beige OSX and 7600 YDL2.3 In-Reply-To: <20030519202011.36081.qmail@web41108.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <79529999-8A46-11D7-A1D7-003065B10FF6@attbi.com> Q0: Yes, you can still network 2 machines with the crossover cable. Now, just for clarity, there is a difference between a router, a switch, and a hub. A router is "smart" and must be configured so that it can make decisions about where/how to route traffic (data) through it. Routers tend to be more expensive and more difficult to configure than hubs or switches. A hub is "dumb" and simply talks to all the devices that are connected to it. For instance, if there is a hub with 3 computers attached to it (computers A, B, and C) and computer A wants to send something to computer C then it sends the traffic out of it's (A's) ethernet port. It reaches the hub and the hub " broadcasts" this traffic to *every* device plugged into it. It is up to computer C to recognize that the traffic is intended for it and for computer B to decide that the traffic is not intended for it and to ignore it. A hub cannot be configured, it just listens on all of its ports and whenever traffic is sent to it, it sends that traffic out of all the rest of its ports. A switch is "slightly smart" and does not "broadcast" all traffic to all computers attached to it. It is smart enough to know which computer is connected to which one of its ports and send the data it receives out to the correct computer. Generally there is not much configuring that needs to be done on a switch. Often there is no configuration needed. Q1: As far as OS X goes, yes, that is how you configure it. For YDL, I am not sure, maybe someone else can help out there. I have been using YDL for only a week and it is the 3.0 version. When I installed it I set my iBook up to get a DHCP lease, so I haven't had to manually configure any networking stuff. If you normally use the YDL machine on another network and only want to make a temporary change (until next reboot) you can use the ifconfig command to do that. I can probably help you figure that out if you want to go that route. Q2: That is a good question-- you can use just about anything you like: ftp, ssh, telnet, or whatever. All of those are command line utilities (I think there are some graphical front ends for X for some of them, but I have never used them). If you turn on the Personal Web Sharing in OS X (system prefs/sharing) you should be able to see the OS X machine with a the browser on YDL. You would just go to: http://10.10.10.5/ and unless you have something else set up it will probably just be the default apache web page. You can also turn on the Personal File Sharing and you should be able to: afp://10.10.10.5 If the browser you are using in YDL supports it. Once you have the two machines on the same network, you might want to try and set up SAMBA for filesharing between them. There might be an easier way to set up filesharing with OS X and YDL, but I am unaware of any. I will play around with this later today and see if I can come up with something more useful. Q4: The connections I have described are TCP/IP. I am not sure where AppleTalk fits into the picture other than I am pretty sure that AppleTalk can use TCP/IP to get from one machine to another. To the best of my knowledge it is just kind of magic and "just works." I wish I could be more help here. On Monday, May 19, 2003, at 01:20 PM, David Purdy wrote: > Thanks Ron: > > I will try the ping, after making sure the physical > and logical setups are complete. > > I already applied the 2.3 fix describe on the HowTo > pages, to fix netatalk. If I may be so bold...a few > questions... > > Q0. Can I still network the two via the > crossovercable? Does the connection **have** to go > through a router? > > Q1: Do I configure the machines via the respective > configuring devices: > > mac osX box <-> Network System Preferences > > ydl 2.3 box <-> redhat-config-network ...? > > Q2: What commands/programs do I use to actually > see/connect to the other machine, to see it on a > desktop? Go To Server in Mac OSX? What will that > access look like in Linux/YDL- ie. do I brows to it or > what, in Linux? > > Q4. Is what you describe an AppleTalk-based > connection, or is it some other protocol? > > > Thanks, > > Dave > > > --- Ron Smith wrote: >> They will need to be connected physically, then >> configured logically. >> >> Physically what you will probably want to do is get >> a simple ethernet >> hub. Instead of using the crossover cable, you will >> use a >> straight-through cable to go from each machine to >> the hub. Once they >> are physically wired to the hub they will be able to >> "see" each other >> when you get the logical configuration correct. >> >> For the logical configuration you will need to set >> their IP address and >> netmasks to be on the same subnet. For instance you >> could configure the >> Beige OS X machine to be IP address 10.10.10.5 with >> a netmask of >> 255.255.255.0 then configure the PowerMac to be >> 10.10.10.6 with a >> netmask of 255.255.255.0 With both of them plugged >> into the hub (or >> with a crossover cable) they should be able to ping >> each other. If you >> are using the Beige OS X machine you would open up a >> terminal and use >> the command: >> >> ping 10.10.10.6 >> >> and it should return something similar to: >> >> 64 bytes from 10.10.10.6: icmp_seq=0 ttl=52 >> time=32.408 ms >> 64 bytes from 10.10.10.6: icmp_seq=1 ttl=52 >> time=43.476 ms >> 64 bytes from 10.10.10.6: icmp_seq=2 ttl=52 >> time=75.493 ms >> >> You will have to C to make it stop! =) >> >> At that point they are networked together and you >> can share files or >> use whatever network applications that you want to >> use. >> >> I hope that helps. >> >> -Ron >> >> On Monday, May 19, 2003, at 09:08 AM, David Purdy >> wrote: >> >>> Help! >>> >>> I want to network a Beige OSX machine with a >> PowerMac >>> 7600 YDL 2.3 machine. >>> >>> I know how set up a simple (cross-over cable) >> network >>> with the same Beige OSX machine and an iBook OS9 >>> machine. >>> >>> I've tried the basics/listed how to's...but my >>> knowledge how to...is...well...really basic. >>> >>> So, how to? (i'll need the gorey >> details...*really* >>> spelled out)... >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> __________________________________ >>> Do you Yahoo!? >>> The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. >>> http://search.yahoo.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> yellowdog-newbie mailing list >>> yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >>> >> > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> yellowdog-newbie mailing list >> yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >> > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > http://search.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 20 00:34:57 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (David Purdy) Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 16:34:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Howto?: network a Beige OSX and 7600 YDL2.3 In-Reply-To: <79529999-8A46-11D7-A1D7-003065B10FF6@attbi.com> Message-ID: <20030519233457.52189.qmail@web41106.mail.yahoo.com> Thanks again, Ron: Your words encouraged me to give it another try... I did a /usr/lib/yi/network.py , like it says to do in the HowTo pages...and viola, ...ping returned 100%. I had tried to configure the network/ethernet via the control panels before, but it must not have worked. The command line stuff did the trick. I was able to ftp back and forth between the two computers...very successful. I was also able to afp from the OSX box to the YDL machine. I didn't try the reverse direction from the YDL machine. We just got a router/DSL modem and I am looking forward to hooking these things all up together (iBook, PowerBook, minitower and 7600 YDL box.). What fun! Thanks for the help. Regards, Dave --- ron wrote: > Q0: Yes, you can still network 2 machines with the > crossover cable. > > Now, just for clarity, there is a difference between > a router, a > switch, and a hub. > > A router is "smart" and must be configured so that > it can make > decisions about where/how to route traffic (data) > through it. Routers > tend to be more expensive and more difficult to > configure than hubs or > switches. > > A hub is "dumb" and simply talks to all the devices > that are connected > to it. For instance, if there is a hub with 3 > computers attached to it > (computers A, B, and C) and computer A wants to send > something to > computer C then it sends the traffic out of it's > (A's) ethernet port. > It reaches the hub and the hub " broadcasts" this > traffic to *every* > device plugged into it. It is up to computer C to > recognize that the > traffic is intended for it and for computer B to > decide that the > traffic is not intended for it and to ignore it. A > hub cannot be > configured, it just listens on all of its ports and > whenever traffic is > sent to it, it sends that traffic out of all the > rest of its ports. > > A switch is "slightly smart" and does not > "broadcast" all traffic to > all computers attached to it. It is smart enough to > know which computer > is connected to which one of its ports and send the > data it receives > out to the correct computer. Generally there is not > much configuring > that needs to be done on a switch. Often there is no > configuration > needed. > > Q1: As far as OS X goes, yes, that is how you > configure it. For YDL, I > am not sure, maybe someone else can help out there. > I have been using > YDL for only a week and it is the 3.0 version. When > I installed it I > set my iBook up to get a DHCP lease, so I haven't > had to manually > configure any networking stuff. > > If you normally use the YDL machine on another > network and only want to > make a temporary change (until next reboot) you can > use the ifconfig > command to do that. I can probably help you figure > that out if you want > to go that route. > > Q2: That is a good question-- you can use just about > anything you like: > ftp, ssh, telnet, or whatever. All of those are > command line utilities > (I think there are some graphical front ends for X > for some of them, > but I have never used them). If you turn on the > Personal Web Sharing in > OS X (system prefs/sharing) you should be able to > see the OS X machine > with a the browser on YDL. You would just go to: > > http://10.10.10.5/ > > and unless you have something else set up it will > probably just be the > default apache web page. > > You can also turn on the Personal File Sharing and > you should be able > to: > > afp://10.10.10.5 > > If the browser you are using in YDL supports it. > > Once you have the two machines on the same network, > you might want to > try and set up SAMBA for filesharing between them. > There might be an > easier way to set up filesharing with OS X and YDL, > but I am unaware of > any. I will play around with this later today and > see if I can come up > with something more useful. > > Q4: The connections I have described are TCP/IP. I > am not sure where > AppleTalk fits into the picture other than I am > pretty sure that > AppleTalk can use TCP/IP to get from one machine to > another. To the > best of my knowledge it is just kind of magic and > "just works." I wish > I could be more help here. > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 20 00:48:42 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (James A. Ricken) Date: 19 May 2003 18:48:42 -0500 Subject: My zip drives will not work Message-ID: <1053388121.2504.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> I have an older Apple PowerPC 6500/275MHz 128megs ram,it has 2 zip 100mg drives 1 of them is internal and the other is an external drive. when I try to mount them I get an error back that says "mount:I could not determine the filesystem type and none was specified." Can anyone help me on this? please. Jim From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 20 02:22:49 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Grant) Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 21:22:49 -0400 Subject: Can't recognize CD, at all.... Message-ID: <91C2DFF2-8A61-11D7-B9F0-003065EFB2DC@optonline.net> Hi folks, I downloaded and burned the YDL 2.3 ISOs. It all seems successful, and I was able to load boot-X on the old 6400 powermac (yep, i said old) and begin the install process. Somewhere along the line, though, things went poorly. When it began to install, it said something like" YDL only supports installs from the CD, and you haven;t got one I can read, ok?". Hmmm. Its an Apple machine, with an Apple CD drive, that works (it loaded the boot-X). Any advice? My error in CD formatting? Similar experience with my G4. i have a partition just waiting, but it refuses to boot from the CD. All advice welcome. Grant gfl1@optonline.net From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 20 03:24:09 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (David Purdy) Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 19:24:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Can't recognize CD, at all.... In-Reply-To: <91C2DFF2-8A61-11D7-B9F0-003065EFB2DC@optonline.net> Message-ID: <20030520022409.43891.qmail@web41110.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Grant: Say, did you burn your ISO images under the "Disk Image" option in Toast? (a HowTo at the YDL site explains this) I noticed that you said 2.3 (Dayton, right?). But you also said **"ISOs"** {plural} . I installed 2.3, and there is only 1 YDL 2.3 ISO. (YDL 3.0 has three install discs). Perhaps you are using another - or some second/incompatible CD. Correct me if I'm wrong (anyone else reading) but TTBOMK, the 2.3 install is a single-CD install. (the updates prm.ppc's do occupy another CD's worth of space, but that's not part of the install.) Also, did you let Toast verify your burn (after completing the burn) ? Did you check to see that disk mounts normally when you start up under MacOS (you should be able to open it in MacOS and see a whole ground of files - not just one big file)? I assume that you have OS 8 or OS 9 running on that 6400. Under the HowTo's there is a report of someone installing YDL (2.3, I think, on a 7500, running OS 7.5 - might deserve a look) I installed 2.3 on my 7300/233MHz, just to get the hang of it. I like it - nice that you can tinker under the hood now on very-legacy machines that OSX left out in the cold. I am becoming more and more convinced that I should load it onto my spare G3 Minitower. Good Luck, Dave --- Grant wrote: > Hi folks, > > I downloaded and burned the YDL 2.3 ISOs. It all > seems successful, and > I was able to load boot-X on the old 6400 powermac > (yep, i said old) > and begin the install process. > > Somewhere along the line, though, things went > poorly. When it began to > install, it said something like" YDL only supports > installs from the > CD, and you haven;t got one I can read, ok?". Hmmm. > Its an Apple > machine, with an Apple CD drive, that works (it > loaded the boot-X). > > Any advice? My error in CD formatting? > > Similar experience with my G4. i have a partition > just waiting, but it > refuses to boot from the CD. > > All advice welcome. > > Grant > gfl1@optonline.net > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 20 06:16:20 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (manolo) Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 07:16:20 +0200 Subject: eMac, YDL 3.0, modem connection: impossible Message-ID: <313AAB0C-8A82-11D7-8FE1-000393C54E88@ya.com> Hi! I can=B4t connect to internet, kppp don=B4t recognize my modem. Is it a=20= software modem? Conexant drivers are incompatible with this linux version. can you help me?= From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 20 15:13:14 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Andrew McVinnie) Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 08:13:14 -0600 Subject: Mac On Linux Message-ID: <3226C189-8ACD-11D7-AD54-000393DF0184@mac.com> Hi All, Im trying to get MOL to work and I have figured it out... mostly. I can't it to see any Mac OS drives. Am I correct in thinking that it should see my other partitions and boot right from my actuall install of OS9/OSX? Also I have tried adding the line blkdev: /dev/hda -rw blkdev: /dev/hda -rw which the docs say should reveal your other partitions to MOL, but they don't seem to. Is there a way in Gnome to figure out what the numbers are to my hard drive partitions? ie hda9 or hda7... I have looked around but cant figure out to get Gnome to see my other partition at all. Thanks Andy From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 20 18:15:23 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Jonas Sundstrom) Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 19:15:23 +0200 CEST Subject: yellowdog-newbie digest, Vol 1 #463 - Response to Message 1 In-Reply-To: <1053378848.1513.36.camel@arakus> Message-ID: <1871534714-BeMail@host> Derick Centeno wrote: ... > don't expect to find TerraSoft's capabilities and thoughtful > products such as Anaconda in other distros or even on > other PPC's running Linux or even Red Hat or other Linux > running on a Intel or knock-off chip. Expect to find Anaconda in Red Hat. Red Hat -makes- Anaconda. http://rhlinux.redhat.com/anaconda/ https://listman.redhat.com:443/archives/anaconda-devel-list/ =46rom TerraSoft's own site: "A Red Hat, RPM-based operating system, Yellow Dog Linux is for the home user [...]" /Jonas Sundstr=F6m. www.kirilla.com From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 20 22:16:48 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Netzer Antonio) Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 16:16:48 -0500 Subject: installer crashes on a 7300 mac Message-ID: <5E05127C-8B08-11D7-8A8F-0003930923CE@softhome.net> I'm able to initiate the installation, i get to the point where it asks me what type of installation i want No matter what I choose, the next step, to format/partition my hard drives, gives me an error whether I choose the default, or disk druid, or pdisk it goes into a bug screen, has anyone had this problem also? is there a way to fix this, my other question is, how can I install via ftp, since the cd i'm using might be bad (i've d'l 3.0 disc one twice to check) but same result with both... i've gone from having an ati 128xclaim vr, ide controller card, usb/firewire card, g3 upgrade card to just having the ide controller card, since I don't any scsi drives anymore during bootup, the ide drive with it's partitions seem to be recognized... any suggestions>?? i'm going to try to install 2.3, but it will take a while to d/l that Netz From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 20 22:23:47 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Steve Munsell) Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 17:23:47 -0400 Subject: installer crashes on a 7300 mac In-Reply-To: <5E05127C-8B08-11D7-8A8F-0003930923CE@softhome.net> Message-ID: <578EB0B4-8B09-11D7-A986-0003934BF97C@contagiousgraphics.com> --Apple-Mail-48--3300579 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-49--3300579 --Apple-Mail-49--3300579 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed put a 604 card back in for install and try that... then you can shut down and put g3 back in... i did same thing on my 7300 except with g4 card On Tuesday, May 20, 2003, at 05:16 PM, Netzer Antonio wrote: > I'm able to initiate the installation, i get to the point where it > asks me what type of installation i want > No matter what I choose, the next step, to format/partition my hard > drives, gives me an error > whether I choose the default, or disk druid, or pdisk > > it goes into a bug screen, > > has anyone had this problem also? > is there a way to fix this, > > my other question is, how can I install via ftp, since the cd i'm > using might be bad > (i've d'l 3.0 disc one twice to check) but same result with both... > > i've gone from having an ati 128xclaim vr, ide controller card, > usb/firewire card, g3 upgrade card > to just having the ide controller card, since I don't any scsi drives > anymore > > > during bootup, the ide drive with it's partitions seem to be > recognized... > > any suggestions>?? > > > i'm going to try to install 2.3, but it will take a while to d/l that > > Netz > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > > "The power of the press goes to the individual who owns one..." Damn Right This Was Created On A Mac... If Not Mac, Then Linux or BSD Running On A Mac... But Never Will It Be Windows. Steve Munsell steve@contagiousgraphics.com (work) sneferu@mac.com (personal) Contagious Graphics 8107 Arrowridge Blvd Suite S Charlotte, NC 28273 704-529-5600 --Apple-Mail-49--3300579 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII put a 604 card back in for install and try that... then you can shut down and put g3 back in... i did same thing on my 7300 except with g4 card On Tuesday, May 20, 2003, at 05:16 PM, Netzer Antonio wrote: I'm able to initiate the installation, i get to the point where it asks me what type of installation i want No matter what I choose, the next step, to format/partition my hard drives, gives me an error whether I choose the default, or disk druid, or pdisk it goes into a bug screen, has anyone had this problem also? is there a way to fix this, my other question is, how can I install via ftp, since the cd i'm using might be bad (i've d'l 3.0 disc one twice to check) but same result with both... i've gone from having an ati 128xclaim vr, ide controller card, usb/firewire card, g3 upgrade card to just having the ide controller card, since I don't any scsi drives anymore during bootup, the ide drive with it's partitions seem to be recognized... any suggestions>?? i'm going to try to install 2.3, but it will take a while to d/l that Netz _______________________________________________ yellowdog-newbie mailing list yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie "The power of the press goes to the individual who owns one..." Damn Right This Was Created On A Mac... If Not Mac, Then Linux or BSD Running On A Mac... But Never Will It Be Windows. Steve Munsell steve@contagiousgraphics.com (work) sneferu@mac.com (personal) Contagious Graphics 8107 Arrowridge Blvd Suite S Charlotte, NC 28273 704-529-5600 --Apple-Mail-49--3300579-- --Apple-Mail-48--3300579 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=Steve.vcf Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/directory; x-unix-mode=0644; name="Steve.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD=0D VERSION:3.0=0D N:Munsell;Steve;;;=0D FN:Steve Munsell=0D ORG:Contagious Graphics;=0D TITLE:Boss Man=0D EMAIL;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:steve@contagiousgraphics.com=0D EMAIL;type=3DHOME:sneferu@mac.com=0D TEL;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:704-529-5600=0D TEL;type=3DHOME:704-563-1427=0D TEL;type=3DCELL:704-618-0115=0D ADR;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:;;8107 Arrowridge Blvd Suite = S;Charlotte;NC;28273;USA=0D ADR;type=3DHOME:;;1748 Flynnwood Dr;Charlotte;NC;28205;USA=0D URL:www.contagiousgraphics.com=0D X-AIM;type=3DHOME;type=3Dpref:TheSneferu=0D END:VCARD=0D --Apple-Mail-48--3300579 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-50--3300578 --Apple-Mail-50--3300578 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed --Apple-Mail-50--3300578 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII --Apple-Mail-50--3300578-- --Apple-Mail-48--3300579-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 21 01:31:40 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Grant) Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 20:31:40 -0400 Subject: yellowdog-newbie digest, Vol 1 #465 - 6 msgs In-Reply-To: <20030520180105.25CB31FB37@newhope.terraplex.com> Message-ID: <97230E9E-8B23-11D7-B9F0-003065EFB2DC@optonline.net> purdyd_at_wisheights@yahoo.com wrote: > Hi Grant: > hello, and thanks up front! > Say, did you burn your ISO images under the "Disk > Image" option in Toast? (a HowTo at the YDL site > explains this) It was some time back, I believe so. I did read the instructions. one BIG note, I only have "toast lite", not toast titanium. > > I noticed that you said 2.3 (Dayton, right?). But you > also said **"ISOs"** {plural} . Typo, one CD. > > Also, did you let Toast verify your burn (after > completing the burn) ? yes, I believe so. > > Did you check to see that disk mounts normally when > you start up under MacOS (you should be able to open > it in MacOS and see a whole ground of files - not just > one big file)? Yes, this was the point that i made earlier- the entire folder structure is there, and I was able to extract Yaboot and BootX, and it ran - until it needed more files from the CD. on my G4, it simply would not boot from the CD (but, alas, that's a common problem, even, occasionally, with an Apple (r) system disk :-( If you spot anything suspicious int eh above, pls shout! Grant > > I installed 2.3 on my 7300/233MHz, just to get the > hang of it. I like it - nice that you can tinker > under the hood now on very-legacy machines that OSX > left out in the cold. I am becoming more and more > convinced that I should load it onto my spare G3 > Minitower. > > Good Luck, > > Dave From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 21 02:35:47 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com) Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 03:35:47 +0200 Subject: I am looking for Dan and Allen. Message-ID: Hi. I really do not know if I am sending mail to right adress. My name is Ennis Maltez-Svanstr=F6m and I am living in Sweden. I have t= wo cousins who live in a canada , St.John=B4s , and i found this side at internet "http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/pipermail/yellowdog-newbie/2002-No= vember/001228.html" and the only adrss I could find was this, so I decidet to try anyway. I am sorry If the adress is wrong. regards, Ennis, Sweden. = From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 21 03:42:13 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com) Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 22:42:13 EDT Subject: installer crashes on a 7300 mac Message-ID: <146.11d6397d.2bfc4185@aol.com> How big is your hard drive and how much memory do you have? From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 21 03:53:43 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Dmitry Kipa) Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 20:53:43 -0600 Subject: PowerBook G4 17" Message-ID: This is a MIME message. If you are reading this text, you may want to consider changing to a mail reader or gateway that understands how to properly handle MIME multipart messages. --=_5B04A22D.D9B8E54D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello YDL, The product page on YDL 3.0 states that the product works just fine on PowerPC and supports all hardware components with no problem whatsoever. In talking to some of my friends I found that not all is supported. For example, built-in modem is not supported (I am not sure if the modem is win-modem-like), USB, etc. Could anyone clarify this for me please. I am in the process of buying a PowerBook for me and am very much interested in running RISC-based Linux rather then X. I would like to know if every singe hardware component on the latest 17" PB is supported by YDL. Thanks in advance, //dm --=_5B04A22D.D9B8E54D Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hello YDL,
 
The product page on YDL 3.0 states that the product works just fine on PowerPC and supports all hardware components with no problem whatsoever. In talking to some of my friends I found that not all is supported. For example, built-in modem is not supported (I am not sure if the modem is win-modem-like), USB, etc. Could anyone clarify this for me please. I am in the process of buying a PowerBook for me and am very much interested in running RISC-based Linux rather then X. I would like to know if every singe hardware component on the latest 17" PB is supported by YDL.
 
Thanks in advance,
//dm
 
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May his soul rest in perfect peace. As you might have heard how a lot of my father's bank account in Switzerland and North America have been frozen. Following the above named reasons, I am soliciting for your humble and confidential assistance to take custody of THIRTY Million United States Dollars ( US$30,000,000.00 ), also to front for me in the areas of business you desire profitable. These funds have secretly been deposited into a confidential Security Company, where it can easily be withdrawn or paid to a recommended beneficiary. The funds will be released to you by the Security Company, based on my recommendations, on that note, you will be presented as my partner who will be fronting for me and my family in any subsequent ventures. Myself and my mother have decided to give 20% to you if you are able to help us claim this consignment. We have also decided to give you any money spent on phone calls or traveling expenses in the course of this transaction at the end of the transaction. Please, I need your entire support and co-operation for the success of this transaction, your utmost confidentiality and secrecy is highly required, due to my family's present predicament. I sincerely will appreciate your willingness to assist us as soon as possible. I am presently in the refugee camp here in the Netherlands under the united nations refugee camp in Netherlands and I can be reached on phone number +31-645-238-205 or E-mail me at josephmobutu12730@rediffmail.com = for more information on how we can proceed in this transaction. Please indicate your interest by sending your telephone and fax number or call me up at anytime. I sincerely will appreciate your acknowledgement as soon as possible. Warmest regards, Joseph Mobutu Sese-Seko. --ce9eeed1-5aa9-452d-8415-048975965ad7-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 21 15:36:01 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Netzer Antonio) Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 09:36:01 -0500 Subject: installer crashes on a 7300 mac In-Reply-To: <146.11d6397d.2bfc4185@aol.com> Message-ID: <8B9336ED-8B99-11D7-8A8F-0003930923CE@softhome.net> It's a 60 gig hard drive, 30 for os 9 and backup files 25 for os x and more backup files 5 for linux (set up as free space) - I had make this space by first optimizing the hard drive(diskwarrior) and using a disk tools (norton) to divide the once 30gig os x partition. as you can see, initializing the whole hard drive is not really an option these are approximate sizes.... memory : I have 308mb( 2 * 128, 2 * 16, 2 * 8 ) in it - I had removed all but one 128m chip and tried it with that , but same result.... i'm trying to initialize another spare drive, that is just 3.5 gigs, and use it solely to install linux on it, I'll see if that works also , i;m going to try 2.3 and see what results i get with that thanks for any input On Tuesday, May 20, 2003, at 09:42 PM, PPCLinux@aol.com wrote: > How big is your hard drive and how much memory do you have? > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 21 16:02:15 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Ventura =?iso-8859-1?q?Valderr=E1bano=20Ornedo?=) Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 17:02:15 +0200 Subject: URGENT ASSISTANCE In-Reply-To: <20030521112515.008511FAB2@newhope.terraplex.com> References: <20030521112515.008511FAB2@newhope.terraplex.com> Message-ID: <200305211702.29032.vvalderrabano@wanadoo.es> =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Please Mr Mobutu, print this reply. Once you have printed it, take it and t= ry=20 to introduce it in your ass. If this practise is difficult for you, you wou= ld=20 think what your e-mails are for us. Best regards. El Mi=E9rcoles, 21 de Mayo de 2003 13:26, JOSEPH MOBUTU SESE-SEKO escribi= =F3: | You may be surprise to receive this email since you do not know me. | I am the son of the late president of Democratic Republic Of Zaire, | President Mobutu Sese Seko, ( now The Republic of Congo, under the | leadership of the son of Mr. Laurent Kabila). I presume you are aware | there is a financial dispute between my family ( THEMOBUTUS ) and the | present civilian Government. This is based on what they believe as bad and | corrupt governance on my late father's part. May his soul rest in perfect | peace. As you might have heard how a lot of my father's bank account in | Switzerland and North America have been frozen. Following the above named | reasons, I am soliciting for your humble and confidential assistance to | take custody of THIRTY Million United States Dollars ( US$30,000,000.00 ), | also to front for me in the areas of business you desire profitable. | These funds have secretly been deposited into a confidential Security | Company, where it can easily be withdrawn or paid to a recommended | beneficiary. The funds will be released to you by the Security Company, | based on my recommendations, on that note, you will be presented as my | partner who will be fronting for me and my family in any subsequent | ventures. Myself and my mother have decided to give 20% to you if you are | able to help us claim this consignment. We have also decided to give you | any money spent on phone calls or traveling expenses in the course of this | transaction at the end of the transaction. | Please, I need your entire support and co-operation for the success of th= is | transaction, your utmost confidentiality and secrecy is highly required, | due to my family's present predicament. | I sincerely will appreciate your willingness to assist us as soon as | possible. I am presently in the refugee camp here in the Netherlands under | the united nations refugee camp in Netherlands and I can be reached on | phone number +31-645-238-205 or E-mail me at | josephmobutu12730@rediffmail.com for more information on how we can | proceed in this transaction. Please indicate your interest by sending your | telephone and fax number or call me up at anytime. I sincerely will | appreciate your acknowledgement as soon as possible. | Warmest regards, | Joseph Mobutu Sese-Seko. =2D --=20 Saludos. Ventura ******************************************** El correo electr=F3nico no encriptado no es seguro y puede no ser aut=E9nti= co. Si=20 tiene alguna duda sobre el contenido, por favor, telefonee para confirmarlo= =2E=20 La informaci=F3n contenida en este mensaje es confidencial y destinada=20 exclusivamente para la/s direcci=F3n/es arriba indicadas. Si ha recibido es= te=20 mensaje por error o ha habido alg=FAn problema, por favor, notifiquelo=20 inmediatamente al remitente. El uso no autorizado, revelaci=F3n, copia o=20 alteraci=F3n de este mensaje est=E1 estrictamente prohibido. ********************************************* =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-rc1-SuSE (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+y5UBgeGU3fB1bboRAg13AJ9ZIvCSsrT67mk5/smgCHn3aFM7kACgnW6q lvVE4qOi2grTrz8ipDgeOV8=3D =3D0PsF =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 21 17:07:39 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (David Purdy) Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 09:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: fixing "weird & unchangeable" monitor settings (!?) In-Reply-To: <8B9336ED-8B99-11D7-8A8F-0003930923CE@softhome.net> Message-ID: <20030521160739.69487.qmail@web41110.mail.yahoo.com> Monitor resolution/config problem... I installed YDL 3 on a beige G3/400MHz, w/ stock ATI Rage II card, using old spare Apple RGB monitor (640x480) from my LC III (all right, stop snickering!, LOL!),... The install seemed to go fine, but when finished with login, & I went to graphical login, my screen had that stretched look to it (stretched vertically), and the display setting say that I'm running the monitor at 800x600. I can't view the top & bottom 1/2inch of my screen image. The system display settings interface will not accept changes to either the resolution, or the refresh rates. It seems that it is misidentifying the monitor. I've looked at the Config & HowTo pages, and noticed the link to the dexter.py monitor configuration. Does this still work in YDL 3 ? What are my other options? What is easiest & most bombproof? ?Can I go in and pico-edit the XF86Config file manually? (!!I found and printed the official Apple Specs on the monitor's resolution and refresh rates)... ?Can I restore the settings (the good ones in effect at the time of YDL 3 installation!), by copying the previous install-time monitor-configuration onto/inplace of the current messy-stretched XF86Config file-settings? Thanks in advance, Dave __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 21 17:20:56 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (David Purdy) Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 09:20:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: fixing "weird & unchangeable" monitor settings (!?) In-Reply-To: <20030521160739.69487.qmail@web41110.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030521162056.10635.qmail@web41101.mail.yahoo.com> Oh, yeah... any and all help will be appreciated, and I may need to be walked through the process in small steps... Thanks, Dave --- David Purdy wrote: > Monitor resolution/config problem... > > I installed YDL 3 on a beige G3/400MHz, w/ stock ATI > Rage II card, using old spare Apple RGB monitor > (640x480) from my LC III (all right, stop > snickering!, > LOL!),... > > The install seemed to go fine, but when finished > with > login, & I went to graphical login, my screen had > that > stretched look to it (stretched vertically), and the > display setting say that I'm running the monitor at > 800x600. I can't view the top & bottom 1/2inch of my > screen image. The system display settings interface > will not accept changes to either the resolution, or > the refresh rates. It seems that it is > misidentifying > the monitor. > > I've looked at the Config & HowTo pages, and noticed > the link to the dexter.py monitor configuration. > Does > this still work in YDL 3 ? > > What are my other options? What is easiest & most > bombproof? > > ?Can I go in and pico-edit the XF86Config file > manually? (!!I found and printed the official Apple > Specs on the monitor's resolution and refresh > rates)... > > ?Can I restore the settings (the good ones in effect > at the time of YDL 3 installation!), by copying the > previous install-time monitor-configuration > onto/inplace of the current messy-stretched > XF86Config > file-settings? > > > Thanks in advance, > > Dave > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > http://search.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 21 17:24:02 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (mauro) Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 18:24:02 +0200 Subject: URGENT ASSISTANCE In-Reply-To: <200305211702.29032.vvalderrabano@wanadoo.es> Message-ID: hahahahaha!!!! Good answer Ventura...LOL I wonder how much assholes like this one will go on to send foolish msgs like this... and what their advantage could be acting this way??? Greets Mauro >=20 > Please Mr Mobutu, print this reply. Once you have printed it, take it and= try > to introduce it in your ass. If this practise is difficult for you, you w= ould > think what your e-mails are for us. >=20 > Best regards. >=20 >=20 > El Mi=E9rcoles, 21 de Mayo de 2003 13:26, JOSEPH MOBUTU SESE-SEKO escribi=F3: > | You may be surprise to receive this email since you do not know me. > | I am the son of the late president of Democratic Republic Of Zaire, > | President Mobutu Sese Seko, ( now The Republic of Congo, under the > | leadership of the son of Mr. Laurent Kabila). I presume you are aware > | there is a financial dispute between my family ( THEMOBUTUS ) and the > | present civilian Government. This is based on what they believe as bad = and > | corrupt governance on my late father's part. May his soul rest in perfe= ct > | peace. As you might have heard how a lot of my father's bank account in > | Switzerland and North America have been frozen. Following the above nam= ed > | reasons, I am soliciting for your humble and confidential assistance to > | take custody of THIRTY Million United States Dollars ( US$30,000,000.00= ), > | also to front for me in the areas of business you desire profitable. > | These funds have secretly been deposited into a confidential Security > | Company, where it can easily be withdrawn or paid to a recommended > | beneficiary. The funds will be released to you by the Security Company, > | based on my recommendations, on that note, you will be presented as my > | partner who will be fronting for me and my family in any subsequent > | ventures. Myself and my mother have decided to give 20% to you if you a= re > | able to help us claim this consignment. We have also decided to give yo= u > | any money spent on phone calls or traveling expenses in the course of t= his > | transaction at the end of the transaction. > | Please, I need your entire support and co-operation for the success of = this > | transaction, your utmost confidentiality and secrecy is highly required= , > | due to my family's present predicament. > | I sincerely will appreciate your willingness to assist us as soon as > | possible. I am presently in the refugee camp here in the Netherlands un= der > | the united nations refugee camp in Netherlands and I can be reached on > | phone number +31-645-238-205 or E-mail me at > | josephmobutu12730@rediffmail.com for more information on how we can > | proceed in this transaction. Please indicate your interest by sending y= our > | telephone and fax number or call me up at anytime. I sincerely will > | appreciate your acknowledgement as soon as possible. > | Warmest regards, > | Joseph Mobutu Sese-Seko. >=20 > - --=20 > Saludos. > Ventura >=20 > ******************************************** > El correo electr=F3nico no encriptado no es seguro y puede no ser aut=E9ntico= . Si > tiene alguna duda sobre el contenido, por favor, telefonee para confirmar= lo. > La informaci=F3n contenida en este mensaje es confidencial y destinada > exclusivamente para la/s direcci=F3n/es arriba indicadas. Si ha recibido es= te > mensaje por error o ha habido alg=FAn problema, por favor, notifiquelo > inmediatamente al remitente. El uso no autorizado, revelaci=F3n, copia o > alteraci=F3n de este mensaje est=E1 estrictamente prohibido. > ********************************************* > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-rc1-SuSE (GNU/Linux) >=20 > iD8DBQE+y5UBgeGU3fB1bboRAg13AJ9ZIvCSsrT67mk5/smgCHn3aFM7kACgnW6q > lvVE4qOi2grTrz8ipDgeOV8=3D > =3D0PsF > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >=20 > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 22 14:21:11 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Office Mluetz) Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 15:21:11 +0200 Subject: SCSI Problem with Symbios sym53c8xx Message-ID: <004d01c32065$035b80e0$4601a8c0@pclinks> *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C32075.C6D81BE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There is an Problem to Install YDL 3.0 on an OldWorld PPC 7300 (G3 = Works...) There is a PCI Formac Symbios (sym53c8xx) Card. There were no problems with YDL 2.3 with the vmlinux 2.2 Kernel. - Installing direktly on the concerned HD (4GB) through this card. But now happens the following : Booting with BootX 1.2.3 (1.2.2 works also) Kernel vmlinux 2.4. . . . = -8boot, Ramdisk 40MB . . . the sym53c8xx Driver is loaded short before the further installing = procedure. No Problem to install YDL 3.0 on this disk. After installing and restarting the system can't find the HD which works = under the Formac Symbios 53c8xx card. CD Drive, internal and external HD are found by the included Linux = drivers. How can I activate the sym53c8xx driver with the vmlinux 2.4. . . .-8 = Kernel during starting ? Is there any argument I can use within BootX ?! ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C32075.C6D81BE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
There is an Problem to Install YDL 3.0 = on an=20 OldWorld PPC 7300 (G3 Works...)
 
There is a PCI Formac Symbios = (sym53c8xx)=20 Card.
 
There were no problems with YDL 2.3 = with the=20 vmlinux 2.2 Kernel.
- Installing direktly on the concerned = HD (4GB)=20 through this card.
 
But now happens the following = :
 
Booting with BootX 1.2.3 (1.2.2 works = also) Kernel=20 vmlinux 2.4. . . . -8boot, Ramdisk 40MB  . . .
the sym53c8xx Driver is loaded short = before the=20 further installing procedure. No Problem to install
YDL 3.0 on this disk.
 
After installing and restarting the = system can't=20 find the HD which works under the Formac Symbios 53c8xx = card.
CD Drive, internal and external HD are = found by the=20 included Linux drivers.
 
How can I activate the sym53c8xx driver = with the=20 vmlinux 2.4. . . .-8 Kernel during starting ?
Is there any argument I can use within = BootX=20 ?!
------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C32075.C6D81BE0-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 22 14:31:33 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Office Mluetz) Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 15:31:33 +0200 Subject: can't load SCSI sym53c8xx driver on system Message-ID: <006101c32066$7636ed10$4601a8c0@pclinks> *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* There is an Problem to Install YDL 3.0 on an OldWorld PPC 7300 (G3 Works...) There is a PCI Formac Symbios (sym53c8xx) Card. There were no problems with YDL 2.3 with the vmlinux 2.2 Kernel. - Installing direktly on the concerned HD (4GB) through this card. But now happens the following : Booting with BootX 1.2.3 (1.2.2 works also) Kernel vmlinux 2.4. . . . -8boot, Ramdisk 40MB . . . the sym53c8xx Driver is loaded short before the further installing procedure. No Problem to install YDL 3.0 on this disk. After installing and restarting the system can't find the HD which works under the Formac Symbios 53c8xx card. CD Drive, internal and external HD are found by the included Linux drivers. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 22 20:25:54 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (David Purdy) Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 12:25:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: can't transfer files between networked YDL boxes In-Reply-To: <006101c32066$7636ed10$4601a8c0@pclinks> Message-ID: <20030522192554.54126.qmail@web41115.mail.yahoo.com> Hi: I have two macs running YDL (3.0 on BeigeG3 and 2.3 on 7600/233). The are connected via crossover cable, set with IP addresses, and they ping each other with 0% signal loss. (Later I will be setting them and several others up on a router, for a small home/office network, mixture of MacOSX and YDL 3.0). I want to transfer files between the two via ftp or some other method. I am sure (from pinging) that they are network-connected. But when I try to ftp from either machine into the other to get something I get an error message in from ftp, saying 'connection refused', from either side. How can I transfer successfully (and hopefully, painlessly)? Is there something more that I have to do with setup & installation? Does there have to be a ftp service listed in the services configuration panel? How do I set this all up? Note: I know how to and can currently transfer between a MacOS machine and a YDL box, using atalk/netatalk. That part works just fine. Thanks, Dave Purdy __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 22 21:04:57 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Ron Smith) Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 13:04:57 -0700 Subject: can't transfer files between networked YDL boxes In-Reply-To: <20030522192554.54126.qmail@web41115.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I don't think that YDL enables FTP by default. Do you have ssh running? If so you can scp (secure copy) the files from one machine to the other. This is a bit overkill since it is *highly* unlikely that anyone is going to intercept your data over a crossover cable, but it might be easier than starting up ftpd. Plus you won't have the security liability of having ftp running when you do end up connecting them to the public network. If you are not familiar with ssh, it is basically a secure replacement for telnet. From the user perspective it works just like telnet. Under the hood it is really creating an encrypted session between the two machines and *never* sends your password across the network in plain text (telnet does). Instead of: telnet machine2.mydomain.com you would: ssh machine2.mydomain.com Or you telnet/ssh directly to the IP address instead of by domain name. The first time you use ssh to a particular machine it will ask you if you want to accept the key from the remote machine. After that it is just like telnet in that it will ask for your password, then you are logged in with your normal prompt and at your home directory. As long as ssh works, scp will work too. If ssh is running and you want to give that a try it is a good way to transfer files. Unlike ftp it will give you the status of the file transfer (% complete). It can be a little tricky at first so if you can't figure it out from the scp man page, let me know and I will try to explain it more clearly. On Thursday, May 22, 2003, at 12:25 PM, David Purdy wrote: > Hi: > > I have two macs running YDL (3.0 on BeigeG3 and 2.3 on > 7600/233). The are connected via crossover cable, set > with IP addresses, and they ping each other with 0% > signal loss. (Later I will be setting them and > several others up on a router, for a small home/office > network, mixture of MacOSX and YDL 3.0). > > I want to transfer files between the two via ftp or > some other method. I am sure (from pinging) that they > are network-connected. But when I try to ftp from > either machine into the other to get something I get > an error message in from ftp, saying 'connection > refused', from either side. > > How can I transfer successfully (and hopefully, > painlessly)? Is there something more that I have to > do with setup & installation? Does there have to be a > ftp service listed in the services configuration > panel? How do I set this all up? > > > Note: I know how to and can currently transfer between > a MacOS machine and a YDL box, using atalk/netatalk. > That part works just fine. > > Thanks, > > Dave Purdy > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > http://search.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 22 21:23:59 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (David Purdy) Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 13:23:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: can't transfer files between networked YDL boxes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030522202359.17253.qmail@web41112.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Ron: Thanks so much. I will try it as soon as I get home. It sounds pretty straightforward...though "straightforward" is a relative term - especially in the case of a newbie like me. I will give the man pages of ssh and scp a good looking over, for command syntax & such. Much appreciated...I'll let you know either way how it goes. Thanks, Dave Purdy --- Ron Smith wrote: > I don't think that YDL enables FTP by default. > > Do you have ssh running? If so you can scp (secure > copy) the files from > one machine to the other. This is a bit overkill > since it is *highly* > unlikely that anyone is going to intercept your data > over a crossover > cable, but it might be easier than starting up ftpd. > Plus you won't > have the security liability of having ftp running > when you do end up > connecting them to the public network. > > If you are not familiar with ssh, it is basically a > secure replacement > for telnet. From the user perspective it works just > like telnet. Under > the hood it is really creating an encrypted session > between the two > machines and *never* sends your password across the > network in plain > text (telnet does). > > Instead of: > telnet machine2.mydomain.com > > you would: > ssh machine2.mydomain.com > > Or you telnet/ssh directly to the IP address instead > of by domain name. > The first time you use ssh to a particular machine > it will ask you if > you want to accept the key from the remote machine. > After that it is > just like telnet in that it will ask for your > password, then you are > logged in with your normal prompt and at your home > directory. > > As long as ssh works, scp will work too. If ssh is > running and you want > to give that a try it is a good way to transfer > files. Unlike ftp it > will give you the status of the file transfer (% > complete). It can be a > little tricky at first so if you can't figure it out > from the scp man > page, let me know and I will try to explain it more > clearly. > > On Thursday, May 22, 2003, at 12:25 PM, David Purdy > wrote: > > > Hi: > > > > I have two macs running YDL (3.0 on BeigeG3 and > 2.3 on > > 7600/233). The are connected via crossover cable, > set > > with IP addresses, and they ping each other with > 0% > > signal loss. (Later I will be setting them and > > several others up on a router, for a small > home/office > > network, mixture of MacOSX and YDL 3.0). > > > > I want to transfer files between the two via ftp > or > > some other method. I am sure (from pinging) that > they > > are network-connected. But when I try to ftp from > > either machine into the other to get something I > get > > an error message in from ftp, saying 'connection > > refused', from either side. > > > > How can I transfer successfully (and hopefully, > > painlessly)? Is there something more that I have > to > > do with setup & installation? Does there have to > be a > > ftp service listed in the services configuration > > panel? How do I set this all up? > > > > > > Note: I know how to and can currently transfer > between > > a MacOS machine and a YDL box, using > atalk/netatalk. > > That part works just fine. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Dave Purdy > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > http://search.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > > > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > > > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 22 21:40:32 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com) Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 21:40:32 +0100 Subject: My zip drives will not work Message-ID: <200305222140.32384.samtygier@yahoo.co.uk> i have a usb zip250, but this might help hfs and ext2 mounting lines from my /etc/fstab: /dev/sda4 /mnt/ziphfs hfs user 0= 0 /dev/sda /mnt/zipext2 ext2 user = 0 0 for hfs you need to mount the 4th partition. i have had no joy with hfs+,= but=20 i have not tryed any of the new hfs stuff. try: mount /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip/ -t hfs From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 23 00:09:31 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Richard Osmond) Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 00:09:31 +0100 Subject: Wallstreet OS X boot update..... Message-ID: <72037112-8CAA-11D7-891B-000393A94A6E@mac.com> I have found a workaround to the problem described a few days ago, being unable to get OS X to boot on a Wallstrett with YDL installed. Essentially it involves ensuring that you install YDL BEFORE OS X, and put OS 9 and OS X on different partitions. Fuller details will hopefully be posted by Dan Burcaw, either here or on the website, in the next few days - I've sent him a complete description of the process for him to tidy up..... Hurrah! Richard Osmond From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 23 00:56:13 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Steve Munsell) Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 19:56:13 -0400 Subject: Wallstreet OS X boot update..... In-Reply-To: <72037112-8CAA-11D7-891B-000393A94A6E@mac.com> Message-ID: --Apple-Mail-41-178646239 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-42-178646239 --Apple-Mail-42-178646239 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed on my wall street (99-2000 model) i put 9 and x on the same partition, and ydl in the later partitions... i press the d key on boot and it picks the default or first system it finds... os x in my case, but if i do not hit d on boot up, yaboot brings me into ydl 3... On Thursday, May 22, 2003, at 07:09 PM, Richard Osmond wrote: > I have found a workaround to the problem described a few days ago, > being unable to get OS X to boot on a Wallstrett with YDL installed. > Essentially it involves ensuring that you install YDL BEFORE OS X, and > put OS 9 and OS X on different partitions. Fuller details will > hopefully be posted by Dan Burcaw, either here or on the website, in > the next few days - I've sent him a complete description of the > process for him to tidy up..... > > Hurrah! > > Richard Osmond > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > > "The power of the press goes to the individual who owns one..." Steve Munsell steve@contagiousgraphics.com (work) sneferu@mac.com (personal) IM - TheSneferu Contagious Graphics 8107 Arrowridge Blvd Suite S Charlotte, NC 28273 704-529-5600 --Apple-Mail-42-178646239 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII on my wall street (99-2000 model) i put 9 and x on the same partition, and ydl in the later partitions... i press the d key on boot and it picks the default or first system it finds... os x in my case, but if i do not hit d on boot up, yaboot brings me into ydl 3... On Thursday, May 22, 2003, at 07:09 PM, Richard Osmond wrote: I have found a workaround to the problem described a few days ago, being unable to get OS X to boot on a Wallstrett with YDL installed. Essentially it involves ensuring that you install YDL BEFORE OS X, and put OS 9 and OS X on different partitions. Fuller details will hopefully be posted by Dan Burcaw, either here or on the website, in the next few days - I've sent him a complete description of the process for him to tidy up..... Hurrah! Richard Osmond _______________________________________________ yellowdog-newbie mailing list yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie "The power of the press goes to the individual who owns one..." Steve Munsell 1919,1919,FFFFsteve@contagiousgraphics.com (work) 1919,1919,FFFFsneferu@mac.com (personal) IM - TheSneferu Contagious Graphics 8107 Arrowridge Blvd Suite S Charlotte, NC 28273 704-529-5600 --Apple-Mail-42-178646239-- --Apple-Mail-41-178646239 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=Steve.vcf Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/directory; x-unix-mode=0666; name="Steve.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD=0D VERSION:3.0=0D N:Munsell;Steve;;;=0D FN:Steve Munsell=0D ORG:Contagious Graphics;=0D TITLE:Boss Man=0D EMAIL;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:steve@contagiousgraphics.com=0D EMAIL;type=3DHOME:sneferu@mac.com=0D TEL;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:704-529-5600=0D TEL;type=3DHOME:704-563-1427=0D TEL;type=3DCELL:704-618-0115=0D ADR;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:;;8107 Arrowridge Blvd Suite = S;Charlotte;NC;28273;USA=0D ADR;type=3DHOME:;;1748 Flynnwood Dr;Charlotte;NC;28205;USA=0D URL:www.contagiousgraphics.com=0D X-AIM;type=3DHOME;type=3Dpref:TheSneferu=0D END:VCARD=0D --Apple-Mail-41-178646239 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-43-178646240 --Apple-Mail-43-178646240 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed --Apple-Mail-43-178646240 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII --Apple-Mail-43-178646240-- --Apple-Mail-41-178646239-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 23 02:23:34 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (David Purdy) Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 18:23:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: can't transfer files between networked YDL boxes In-Reply-To: <20030522202359.17253.qmail@web41112.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030523012334.94817.qmail@web41109.mail.yahoo.com> Ron: I was able to connect via ssh and scp just fine. It took a moment to figure out the command formats, but I got it. LOL, on my first try I ended up copying the file from the remote home directory to the remote desktop! Well, I got it...thanks. The one machine (G3 w/ YDL 3.0) seemed to have a ssh server already running on it. I don't think the 2.3 machine had it listed in the services. I'm not sure why that is. Is it possible to install ssh after basic installation? Back to the FTP thing... how hard is it to install and configure a basic ftp server anyway? Any good references for the newbie like me? (reads as: I will have to have *everything spelled out.) Thanks again, Dave Purdy --- David Purdy wrote: > Hi Ron: > > Thanks so much. I will try it as soon as I get > home. > It sounds pretty straightforward...though > "straightforward" is a relative term - especially in > the case of a newbie like me. > > I will give the man pages of ssh and scp a good > looking over, for command syntax & such. > > Much appreciated...I'll let you know either way how > it > goes. > > Thanks, > > Dave Purdy > > --- Ron Smith wrote: > > I don't think that YDL enables FTP by default. > > > > Do you have ssh running? If so you can scp (secure > > copy) the files from > > one machine to the other. This is a bit overkill > > since it is *highly* > > unlikely that anyone is going to intercept your > data > > over a crossover > > cable, but it might be easier than starting up > ftpd. > > Plus you won't > > have the security liability of having ftp running > > when you do end up > > connecting them to the public network. > > > > If you are not familiar with ssh, it is basically > a > > secure replacement > > for telnet. From the user perspective it works > just > > like telnet. Under > > the hood it is really creating an encrypted > session > > between the two > > machines and *never* sends your password across > the > > network in plain > > text (telnet does). > > > > Instead of: > > telnet machine2.mydomain.com > > > > you would: > > ssh machine2.mydomain.com > > > > Or you telnet/ssh directly to the IP address > instead > > of by domain name. > > The first time you use ssh to a particular machine > > it will ask you if > > you want to accept the key from the remote > machine. > > After that it is > > just like telnet in that it will ask for your > > password, then you are > > logged in with your normal prompt and at your > home > > directory. > > > > As long as ssh works, scp will work too. If ssh is > > running and you want > > to give that a try it is a good way to transfer > > files. Unlike ftp it > > will give you the status of the file transfer (% > > complete). It can be a > > little tricky at first so if you can't figure it > out > > from the scp man > > page, let me know and I will try to explain it > more > > clearly. > > > > On Thursday, May 22, 2003, at 12:25 PM, David > Purdy > > wrote: > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 23 02:47:14 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (James A. Ricken) Date: 22 May 2003 20:47:14 -0500 Subject: does anyone know how to get a Newertech G3 processor upgrade to run yellowdog 3.0? Message-ID: <1053654433.3553.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi I own a old Mac 6500 ( yes people it's really old)and I was wondering if anyone knew how to get yellow dog linux 3.0 to run on this Mac 6500 with 128 megs ram and a Newertech maxpowr G3 Processor that runs in the cache slot. Any ideas? Jim From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 23 03:28:32 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Ron Smith) Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 19:28:32 -0700 Subject: can't transfer files between networked YDL boxes In-Reply-To: <20030523012334.94817.qmail@web41109.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3F34F66B-8CC6-11D7-8857-003065B10FF6@ydl.net> Hi Dave, If the 2.3 machine has it installed (just not started) it should be in the /usr/sbin directory. If it is there you should be able to just ./sshd to start it. If it is not there, you should be able to rpm or yum it, I think. So far (both weeks of life with YDL), I have not had to install anything, nor have I had a chance to go through and figure out how it boots up-- what scripts it runs to start services, so we are heading out of my area of experience. =( I am sure it is possible to install ssh after initial install, but I can't venture a guess for how easy or how difficult it may be to do on YDL. I have only manually installed it on Solaris (major pain to install/configure) and OpenBSD (medium pain). It could be more complex than installing ftp because it may or may not automatically run the scripts that generate crypto keys and such. Installing ftp should be a breeze because it doesn't really need any configuration. You would just install it and then start ftpd. YDL (and most other Linuxes) installs the ftp client, I found it on mine, but I didn't see the ftp server on my machine, so I don't think it installs it by default. I think you can just yum install ftpd and it will figure things out. I just did that on my machine and it is doing *something*.... looks like building a list and taking a few minutes to do it. Installing ssh might be as easy as yum install ssh? Sorry I'm not much help on this one. -Ron On Thursday, May 22, 2003, at 06:23 PM, David Purdy wrote: > Ron: > > I was able to connect via ssh and scp just fine. It > took a moment to figure out the command formats, but I > got it. LOL, on my first try I ended up copying the > file from the remote home directory to the remote > desktop! Well, I got it...thanks. > > The one machine (G3 w/ YDL 3.0) seemed to have a ssh > server already running on it. I don't think the 2.3 > machine had it listed in the services. I'm not sure > why that is. Is it possible to install ssh after > basic installation? > > Back to the FTP thing... how hard is it to install and > configure a basic ftp server anyway? Any good > references for the newbie like me? (reads as: I will > have to have *everything spelled out.) > > Thanks again, > > Dave Purdy > > > --- David Purdy > wrote: >> Hi Ron: >> >> Thanks so much. I will try it as soon as I get >> home. >> It sounds pretty straightforward...though >> "straightforward" is a relative term - especially in >> the case of a newbie like me. >> >> I will give the man pages of ssh and scp a good >> looking over, for command syntax & such. >> >> Much appreciated...I'll let you know either way how >> it >> goes. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Dave Purdy >> >> --- Ron Smith wrote: >>> I don't think that YDL enables FTP by default. >>> >>> Do you have ssh running? If so you can scp (secure >>> copy) the files from >>> one machine to the other. This is a bit overkill >>> since it is *highly* >>> unlikely that anyone is going to intercept your >> data >>> over a crossover >>> cable, but it might be easier than starting up >> ftpd. >>> Plus you won't >>> have the security liability of having ftp running >>> when you do end up >>> connecting them to the public network. >>> >>> If you are not familiar with ssh, it is basically >> a >>> secure replacement >>> for telnet. From the user perspective it works >> just >>> like telnet. Under >>> the hood it is really creating an encrypted >> session >>> between the two >>> machines and *never* sends your password across >> the >>> network in plain >>> text (telnet does). >>> >>> Instead of: >>> telnet machine2.mydomain.com >>> >>> you would: >>> ssh machine2.mydomain.com >>> >>> Or you telnet/ssh directly to the IP address >> instead >>> of by domain name. >>> The first time you use ssh to a particular machine >>> it will ask you if >>> you want to accept the key from the remote >> machine. >>> After that it is >>> just like telnet in that it will ask for your >>> password, then you are >>> logged in with your normal prompt and at your >> home >>> directory. >>> >>> As long as ssh works, scp will work too. If ssh is >>> running and you want >>> to give that a try it is a good way to transfer >>> files. Unlike ftp it >>> will give you the status of the file transfer (% >>> complete). It can be a >>> little tricky at first so if you can't figure it >> out >>> from the scp man >>> page, let me know and I will try to explain it >> more >>> clearly. >>> >>> On Thursday, May 22, 2003, at 12:25 PM, David >> Purdy >>> wrote: >>> > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > http://search.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 23 03:30:24 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Ron Smith) Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 19:30:24 -0700 Subject: does anyone know how to get a Newertech G3 processor upgrade to run yellowdog 3.0? In-Reply-To: <1053654433.3553.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <824CA413-8CC6-11D7-8857-003065B10FF6@ydl.net> I don't have any personal experience with this, but I have read in a couple of places that putting the original processor back into it, installing YDL, then putting the G3 back into it is the way to do this. -Ron On Thursday, May 22, 2003, at 06:47 PM, James A. Ricken wrote: > Hi > I own a old Mac 6500 ( yes people it's really old)and I was wondering > if anyone knew how to get yellow dog linux 3.0 to run on this Mac 6500 > with 128 megs ram and a Newertech maxpowr G3 Processor that runs in the > cache > slot. > Any ideas? > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 23 03:53:54 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (David Purdy) Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 19:53:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: can't transfer files between networked YDL boxes In-Reply-To: <3F34F66B-8CC6-11D7-8857-003065B10FF6@ydl.net> Message-ID: <20030523025354.9925.qmail@web41109.mail.yahoo.com> Hi back, Ron: I guess I overlooked the HowTo page, now reorganized by version, etc, and in the General Yellow Dog Linux, under networking, Kai Staats tells how to install sshd. It was remarkably simple...and it worked right away, out of the box. I just popped in the 2.3 CD, mounted it and changed directory to point to the rpm's, did just what the HowTo says. Done in seconds. A restart and I was up and running, sshd running on both machines. It was deceivingly subtle how ssh suddenly changed the command line prompt to ... a different machine. Wow, what a concept. I may try that fptd install in a few days. Thanks, Dave --- Ron Smith wrote: > Hi Dave, > > If the 2.3 machine has it installed (just not > started) it should be in > the /usr/sbin directory. If it is there you should > be able to just > > ./sshd > > to start it. > > If it is not there, you should be able to rpm or yum > it, I think. So > far (both weeks of life with YDL), I have not had to > install anything, > nor have I had a chance to go through and figure out > how it boots up-- > what scripts it runs to start services, so we are > heading out of my > area of experience. =( > > I am sure it is possible to install ssh after > initial install, but I > can't venture a guess for how easy or how difficult > it may be to do on > YDL. I have only manually installed it on Solaris > (major pain to > install/configure) and OpenBSD (medium pain). It > could be more complex > than installing ftp because it may or may not > automatically run the > scripts that generate crypto keys and such. > > Installing ftp should be a breeze because it doesn't > really need any > configuration. You would just install it and then > start ftpd. YDL (and > most other Linuxes) installs the ftp client, I found > it on mine, but I > didn't see the ftp server on my machine, so I don't > think it installs > it by default. > > I think you can just > > yum install ftpd > > and it will figure things out. I just did that on my > machine and it is > doing *something*.... looks like building a list and > taking a few > minutes to do it. > > Installing ssh might be as easy as yum install ssh? > > Sorry I'm not much help on this one. > > -Ron > > On Thursday, May 22, 2003, at 06:23 PM, David Purdy __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 23 04:11:05 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Ron Smith) Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 20:11:05 -0700 Subject: can't transfer files between networked YDL boxes In-Reply-To: <20030523025354.9925.qmail@web41109.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <311FC04E-8CCC-11D7-8857-003065B10FF6@ydl.net> Oh cool, I am glad that you got ssh up and running. I am obviously biased toward ssh and scp over telnet and ftp. Once you move things to/from the wrong places a couple of times scp will become second nature. ;-) As far as the yum install ftp thing goes,.... it didn't work! I need to figure out how to use yum anyway, so I'll let you know what I find out. I am sure there is a tutorial on yum somewhere that I haven't looked yet. =) -Ron On Thursday, May 22, 2003, at 07:53 PM, David Purdy wrote: > Hi back, Ron: > > I guess I overlooked the HowTo page, now reorganized > by version, etc, and in the General Yellow Dog Linux, > under networking, Kai Staats tells how to install > sshd. It was remarkably simple...and it worked right > away, out of the box. > > I just popped in the 2.3 CD, mounted it and changed > directory to point to the rpm's, did just what the > HowTo says. Done in seconds. A restart and I was up > and running, sshd running on both machines. > > It was deceivingly subtle how ssh suddenly changed the > command line prompt to ... a different machine. Wow, > what a concept. > > I may try that fptd install in a few days. > > Thanks, > > Dave > > > --- Ron Smith wrote: >> Hi Dave, >> >> If the 2.3 machine has it installed (just not >> started) it should be in >> the /usr/sbin directory. If it is there you should >> be able to just >> >> ./sshd >> >> to start it. >> >> If it is not there, you should be able to rpm or yum >> it, I think. So >> far (both weeks of life with YDL), I have not had to >> install anything, >> nor have I had a chance to go through and figure out >> how it boots up-- >> what scripts it runs to start services, so we are >> heading out of my >> area of experience. =( >> >> I am sure it is possible to install ssh after >> initial install, but I >> can't venture a guess for how easy or how difficult >> it may be to do on >> YDL. I have only manually installed it on Solaris >> (major pain to >> install/configure) and OpenBSD (medium pain). It >> could be more complex >> than installing ftp because it may or may not >> automatically run the >> scripts that generate crypto keys and such. >> >> Installing ftp should be a breeze because it doesn't >> really need any >> configuration. You would just install it and then >> start ftpd. YDL (and >> most other Linuxes) installs the ftp client, I found >> it on mine, but I >> didn't see the ftp server on my machine, so I don't >> think it installs >> it by default. >> >> I think you can just >> >> yum install ftpd >> >> and it will figure things out. I just did that on my >> machine and it is >> doing *something*.... looks like building a list and >> taking a few >> minutes to do it. >> >> Installing ssh might be as easy as yum install ssh? >> >> Sorry I'm not much help on this one. >> >> -Ron >> >> On Thursday, May 22, 2003, at 06:23 PM, David Purdy > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > http://search.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 23 06:52:06 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Steve Munsell) Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 01:52:06 -0400 Subject: does anyone know how to get a Newertech G3 processor upgrade to run yellowdog 3.0? In-Reply-To: <824CA413-8CC6-11D7-8857-003065B10FF6@ydl.net> Message-ID: --Apple-Mail-58-199998698 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-59-199998698 --Apple-Mail-59-199998698 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed i did what ron had suggested in a 7300 a month ago... and it solved all of my install problems... then placed g4 card back in and it picked it right up... The 6500 being such an upgrade challenged machine is you biggest problem (especially the ram limitations apple stuck us on that box). Switching the card in and out may work, but i have a feeling that ydl really may not know where to look for it or find it, or even use it. It may take lots of work to get it to see and/or use the card and at that maybe even never run smooth. My advice is to do a text install using original proc on board (and it will run better and faster than it ever did with os 8 or 9), use it for whatever tasks you can, and look on ebay for a 7300, 8500, 9500 etc ($50 - $100)... if you want a linux powerhouse... Those machines work like a champ and run very well with 604 processors and/or upgraded g3/4 cards, video cards, usb cards, firewire etc... I am running 3 of them as lightweight servers, and getting ready to use a 6500 in text only... for dns and mail services... It sounds like an interesting project, i hope it works for you, but for me it is a dead end machine and i'd give up before it drove me crazy... Curious to know how it worked though... steve On Thursday, May 22, 2003, at 10:30 PM, Ron Smith wrote: > I don't have any personal experience with this, but I have read in a > couple of places that putting the original processor back into it, > installing YDL, then putting the G3 back into it is the way to do > this. > > -Ron > > On Thursday, May 22, 2003, at 06:47 PM, James A. Ricken wrote: > >> Hi >> I own a old Mac 6500 ( yes people it's really old)and I was wondering >> if anyone knew how to get yellow dog linux 3.0 to run on this Mac 6500 >> with 128 megs ram and a Newertech maxpowr G3 Processor that runs in >> the >> cache >> slot. >> Any ideas? >> Jim >> >> _______________________________________________ >> yellowdog-newbie mailing list >> yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >> http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie >> > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > > "The power of the press goes to the individual who owns one..." Steve Munsell steve@contagiousgraphics.com (work) sneferu@mac.com (personal) IM - TheSneferu Contagious Graphics 8107 Arrowridge Blvd Suite S Charlotte, NC 28273 704-529-5600 --Apple-Mail-59-199998698 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII i did what ron had suggested in a 7300 a month ago... and it solved all of my install problems... then placed g4 card back in and it picked it right up... The 6500 being such an upgrade challenged machine is you biggest problem (especially the ram limitations apple stuck us on that box). Switching the card in and out may work, but i have a feeling that ydl really may not know where to look for it or find it, or even use it. It may take lots of work to get it to see and/or use the card and at that maybe even never run smooth. My advice is to do a text install using original proc on board (and it will run better and faster than it ever did with os 8 or 9), use it for whatever tasks you can, and look on ebay for a 7300, 8500, 9500 etc ($50 - $100)... if you want a linux powerhouse... Those machines work like a champ and run very well with 604 processors and/or upgraded g3/4 cards, video cards, usb cards, firewire etc... I am running 3 of them as lightweight servers, and getting ready to use a 6500 in text only... for dns and mail services... It sounds like an interesting project, i hope it works for you, but for me it is a dead end machine and i'd give up before it drove me crazy... Curious to know how it worked though... steve On Thursday, May 22, 2003, at 10:30 PM, Ron Smith wrote: I don't have any personal experience with this, but I have read in a couple of places that putting the original processor back into it, installing YDL, then putting the G3 back into it is the way to do this. -Ron On Thursday, May 22, 2003, at 06:47 PM, James A. Ricken wrote: Hi I own a old Mac 6500 ( yes people it's really old)and I was wondering if anyone knew how to get yellow dog linux 3.0 to run on this Mac 6500 with 128 megs ram and a Newertech maxpowr G3 Processor that runs in the cache slot. Any ideas? Jim _______________________________________________ yellowdog-newbie mailing list yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie _______________________________________________ yellowdog-newbie mailing list yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie "The power of the press goes to the individual who owns one..." 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Message-ID: Steve - if you can use yaboot then you don't have a Wallstreet. The problem with the Wallstreet is that it is the last of the powerbooks to need the oldboot BootX solution, and also insists on having MacOS X in a partition within the first 8 Gb on the drive....basically it's picky. Sounds to me like what you've got there is a Pismo.... :) Richard From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 23 08:05:36 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Jonas Stricker) Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 09:05:36 +0200 Subject: can't transfer files between networked YDL boxes In-Reply-To: <20030523025354.9925.qmail@web41109.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20030523025354.9925.qmail@web41109.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3ECDC840.7090908@br-online.de> Hi David, when you install ftpd, don´t forget to open the firewall (lokkit) port for it. Jonas Stricker David Purdy wrote: > I may try that fptd install in a few days. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 23 13:39:06 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Jason Stevens) Date: 23 May 2003 15:39:06 +0300 Subject: Installing MPlayer via apt Message-ID: <1053693546.2576.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> I would like to install MPlayer using apt, but haven't managed to figure out the process. The package I want is located at: http://ayo.freshrpms.net/yellowdog/3.0/ppc/RPMS.freshrpms I have already tried to add this location to my apt source list by running (as root) "pico /etc/apt/sources.list" and adding an entry for the new location, but it failed to work. Instead, a new file named "/etc/apt/sources.list" was created and running "apt-get install mplayer" does not find the package. Is there an easier way to install the package, or must I do something differently to the sources list? From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 23 14:15:19 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (David Purdy) Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 06:15:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: can't transfer files between networked YDL boxes In-Reply-To: <3ECDC840.7090908@br-online.de> Message-ID: <20030523131519.74469.qmail@web41106.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Jonas: Lokkit? What is that? I understand the concept of ports... but only in a very basic way... I understand that they are numbered... How do I determine whether it is open or closed? And how do I go about opening it if it closed? Is there a special port number for ftp transfers, a convention that the internet expects us to follow? (like a default port number) Thanks, Dave Purdy --- Jonas Stricker wrote: > Hi David, > > when you install ftpd, don´t forget to open the > firewall (lokkit) port > for it. > > Jonas Stricker > > David Purdy wrote: > > > I may try that fptd install in a few days. > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 23 15:53:42 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Jonas Stricker) Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 16:53:42 +0200 Subject: can't transfer files between networked YDL boxes In-Reply-To: <20030523131519.74469.qmail@web41106.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20030523131519.74469.qmail@web41106.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3ECE35F6.6090609@br-online.de> David Purdy schrieb: > Hi Jonas: Hi David! > Lokkit? What is that? I understand the concept of Lokkit is a graphical interface to configure the "iptables" packet-filter of the linux kernel in a redhat or redhat-based linux distribution. > ports... but only in a very basic way... I understand > that they are numbered... You can get basical info about which port is used for what service when looking at the file /etc/services on your linux system: [jonas@vademecum jonas]$ cat /etc/services | grep ftp ftp-data 20/tcp ftp-data 20/udp # 21 is registered to ftp, but also used by fsp ftp 21/tcp ftp 21/udp fsp fspd tftp 69/tcp tftp 69/udp sftp 115/tcp sftp 115/udp tftp-mcast 1758/tcp tftp-mcast 1758/udp venus-se 2431/udp # udp sftp side effect codasrv-se 2433/udp # udp sftp side effectQ Here you see, what ports are used by FTP: 21 and 20 It uses two ports because it´s got - well - a data channel and a control channel. > How do I determine whether it is open or closed? To see what iptables configuration is in use at the moment on your system, do something like this (as root!): # iptables -L You´ll get a lot of lines telling you the firewall policies and rules active on your machine, quite confusing if seen the first time... :) > And how do I go about opening it if it closed? Edit your /etc/sysconfig/iptables file. Mine looks like this (ATTENTION, I haven´t enabled FTP): [root@vademecum root]# cat /etc/sysconfig/iptables # Firewall configuration written by lokkit # Manual customization of this file is not recommended. # Note: ifup-post will punch the current nameservers through the # firewall; such entries will *not* be listed here. *filter :INPUT ACCEPT [0:0] :FORWARD ACCEPT [0:0] :OUTPUT ACCEPT [0:0] :RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT - [0:0] -A INPUT -j RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT -A RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 --syn -j ACCEPT -A RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 22 --syn -j ACCEPT -A RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 139 --syn -j ACCEPT -A RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT -A RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 0:1023 --syn -j REJECT -A RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 2049 --syn -j REJECT -A RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 0:1023 -j REJECT -A RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 2049 -j REJECT -A RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 6000:6009 --syn -j REJECT -A RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 7100 --syn -j REJECT COMMIT In my file you can see that the ports 22 (ssh), 80 (http/web server) and 139 (samba) are opened for TCP connections. You probably don´t need all of them except ssh. You should insert (as root!) two more lines after the line containing "-A INPUT -j RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT": -A RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 20 --syn -j ACCEPT -A RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 21 --syn -j ACCEPT Then save the file and do: [root@vademecum root]# /etc/init.d/iptables restart to reload the changed firewall config. Now everything should work fine! Best reference in terms of firewalls and packet-filtering: http://www.netfilter.org Hope that helps, Jonas From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 23 15:53:58 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (David Purdy) Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 07:53:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: No ProFTP server for YDL 3.0? Why, other options? In-Reply-To: <20030523131519.74469.qmail@web41106.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030523145358.46238.qmail@web41115.mail.yahoo.com> Hi: Does anyone know why there is ProFTP server for 2.3 (listed in the 2.3 RPMs, for instance) but none for 3.0? The standard UNIX ftp client is in the 3.0 RPM's, and some other ftp related times, but no ProFTP server. There is a VSFTP server listed. Is this the successor to ProFTP? Is is as easy as ProFTP to set up? I am assuming that the 2.3's ProFTP wouldn't be compatible in the 3.0 environment - is that a false/untrue assumption? Thanks, Dave Purdy __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 23 16:02:28 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (David Purdy) Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 08:02:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: can't transfer files between networked YDL boxes In-Reply-To: <3ECE35F6.6090609@br-online.de> Message-ID: <20030523150228.24614.qmail@web41109.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Jonas: Thanks, I'll try it out when I get home. Much appreciated. Regards, Dave Purdy --- Jonas Stricker wrote: > David Purdy schrieb: > > Hi Jonas: > > Hi David! > > > Lokkit? What is that? I understand the concept > of > > Lokkit is a graphical interface to configure the > "iptables" > packet-filter of the linux kernel in a redhat or > redhat-based linux > distribution. > > ports... but only in a very basic way... I > understand > > that they are numbered... > > You can get basical info about which port is used > for what service when > looking at the file /etc/services on your linux > system: > > [jonas@vademecum jonas]$ cat /etc/services | grep > ftp > ftp-data 20/tcp > ftp-data 20/udp > # 21 is registered to ftp, but also used by fsp > ftp 21/tcp > ftp 21/udp fsp fspd > tftp 69/tcp > tftp 69/udp > sftp 115/tcp > sftp 115/udp > tftp-mcast 1758/tcp > tftp-mcast 1758/udp > venus-se 2431/udp # > udp sftp side effect > codasrv-se 2433/udp # > udp sftp side effectQ > > Here you see, what ports are used by FTP: 21 and 20 > > It uses two ports because it´s got - well - a data > channel and a control > channel. > > > How do I determine whether it is open or closed? > > To see what iptables configuration is in use at the > moment on your > system, do something like this (as root!): > > # iptables -L > > You´ll get a lot of lines telling you the firewall > policies and rules > active on your machine, quite confusing if seen the > first time... :) > > > And how do I go about opening it if it closed? > > Edit your /etc/sysconfig/iptables file. Mine looks > like this (ATTENTION, > I haven´t enabled FTP): > > [root@vademecum root]# cat /etc/sysconfig/iptables > # Firewall configuration written by lokkit > # Manual customization of this file is not > recommended. > # Note: ifup-post will punch the current nameservers > through the > # firewall; such entries will *not* be listed > here. > *filter > :INPUT ACCEPT [0:0] > :FORWARD ACCEPT [0:0] > :OUTPUT ACCEPT [0:0] > :RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT - [0:0] > -A INPUT -j RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT > -A RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 > --syn -j ACCEPT > -A RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 22 > --syn -j ACCEPT > -A RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 139 > --syn -j ACCEPT > -A RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT > -A RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 0:1023 > --syn -j REJECT > -A RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 2049 > --syn -j REJECT > -A RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 0:1023 > -j REJECT > -A RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 2049 > -j REJECT > -A RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport > 6000:6009 --syn -j REJECT > -A RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 7100 > --syn -j REJECT > COMMIT > > > In my file you can see that the ports 22 (ssh), 80 > (http/web server) and > 139 (samba) are opened for TCP connections. You > probably don´t need all > of them except ssh. > > You should insert (as root!) two more lines after > the line containing > "-A INPUT -j RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT": > > -A RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 20 > --syn -j ACCEPT > -A RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 21 > --syn -j ACCEPT > > Then save the file and do: > > [root@vademecum root]# /etc/init.d/iptables restart > > to reload the changed firewall config. > > Now everything should work fine! > > Best reference in terms of firewalls and > packet-filtering: > > http://www.netfilter.org > > > Hope that helps, > > Jonas > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 23 19:13:45 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (David Purdy) Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 11:13:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: No ProFTP server for YDL 3.0? Why, other options? In-Reply-To: <20030523145358.46238.qmail@web41115.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030523181345.48984.qmail@web41105.mail.yahoo.com> I did some digging... VSFTP stands for very secure ftp. Catchy... well they say that it is written from scratch and avoids some of the structural problems of ProFTP and other predecessors, ... I will try to set it up at home tonight on the 3.0 machine. A very useful page is the README file at . More information (general and specific) can be found at this site http://vsftpd.beasts.org/ . The directory at ftp://vsftpd.beasts.org/users/cevans/untar/vsftpd-1.1.3/EXAMPLE/ seems to contain a lot of information as well. If anyone has recent practical experience in installing this and avoiding pitfalls, whatever those may have been, advice and tips would be most appreciated. Thanks, Dave Purdy --- David Purdy wrote: > Hi: > > Does anyone know why there is ProFTP server for 2.3 > (listed in the 2.3 RPMs, for instance) but none for > 3.0? > > The standard UNIX ftp client is in the 3.0 RPM's, > and > some other ftp related times, but no ProFTP server. > There is a VSFTP server listed. Is this the > successor > to ProFTP? Is is as easy as ProFTP to set up? > > I am assuming that the 2.3's ProFTP wouldn't be > compatible in the 3.0 environment - is that a > false/untrue assumption? > > Thanks, > > Dave Purdy > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > http://search.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 23 20:03:03 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Christopher Baskind) Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 14:03:03 -0500 Subject: Spellcheck in Konqueror Message-ID: <200305231403.03764.mylists@paperfrog.com> Something I miss in YellowDog that works on Mandrake 9.1PPC is spellcheck within Konqueror. Very handy for us bloggers. Anyone know how to enable this in YD? I'd love to put the dawg back on my iBook. Thanks, kit From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 23 21:12:54 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Netzer Antonio) Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 15:12:54 -0500 Subject: 2.3 on a 7300, dhcp config problems In-Reply-To: <20030523150228.24614.qmail@web41109.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: well I was able to install 2.3 on a 7300, with a g3 card, ide controller card, ati 128vr, and usb./firewire card all attached no problems i have a cable network w/router at installation time, it could not configure itself using dhcp, so now I have to do it manually, just not sure how here are my network settings /etc/sysconfig/network networking=yes hostname=localhost.localdomain forward_IPV4=no defrag_ipv4=no gateway= gatewaydev=eth0 nisdomain= ipx=no ipxautoprimary=off ipxautoframe=off ipxinternalnetnum= ipinternalnodenum= can someplease guide as to what i need to change/add to have dhcp configured or at least tell it where to input the tcp settings? thanks netz From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 24 03:33:02 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Dustin Lacina) Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 22:33:02 -0400 Subject: G4 DP500 Modem Issues Message-ID: Tried installing YDL3.0 this evening, the modem is not detected, I've tried the various ports(?) in the redhat network manager program, but it can't find it. Does anyone have any advice? From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 23 15:46:35 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Andrew McVinnie) Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 08:46:35 -0600 Subject: Installing MPlayer via apt In-Reply-To: <1053693546.2576.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <59DC0BAA-8D2D-11D7-A0EA-000393DF0184@mac.com> I went to your URL, downloaded all three MPlayer files and tried to install them via RPM in the terminal. It did not install that way either, it had a crap load of dependancies that failed. Andrew McVinnie On Friday, May 23, 2003, at 06:39 AM, Jason Stevens wrote: > I would like to install MPlayer using apt, but haven't managed to > figure > out the process. The package I want is located at: > http://ayo.freshrpms.net/yellowdog/3.0/ppc/RPMS.freshrpms > I have already tried to add this location to my apt source list by > running (as root) "pico /etc/apt/sources.list" and adding an entry for > the new location, but it failed to work. Instead, a new file named > "/etc/apt/sources.list" was created and running "apt-get install > mplayer" does not find the package. > Is there an easier way to install the package, or must I do something > differently to the sources list? > > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 24 05:55:38 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Seth Matheson) Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 00:55:38 -0400 Subject: YDL 3, iBook Modem Message-ID: <20030524005538868092.GyazMail.sethmath@mac.com> I just installed YDL 3 on my 700Mhz iBook, runs pretty well. One thing, I can't configure my modem to connect to the internet. Using, KPPP I think its called, it can never find the modem. I've selected every type of modem in the config menu, even the types that are only supposed to work on windows machines. The closest I can get is selecting /dev/modem, where it says the modem is ready, but then never responds to anything else, and then says it can't find it. The modem works fine in 10.2.6, (dual boot) and i remember it being referred to somewhere in X as /dev/cu.modem, however this is not an option on the config menu of KPPP. Help? thanks! ~Seth Matheson From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 24 07:05:30 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Netzer Antonio) Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 01:05:30 -0500 Subject: YDL 2.3 can i upgrade to 3.0 from within 2.3? In-Reply-To: <20030524005538868092.GyazMail.sethmath@mac.com> Message-ID: 7300/308mb ram, g3 upgrade card, ide controller card, 80 gig hard drive (3g for linux), ati 128xclaim vr, usb/firewire pci card. i was able to install and run 2.3, i've tried everything to get 3.0 to install, but installer crashes upon choosing a partitioning method... so i'm wondering if it's possible to do the upgrade within 2.3, which boots up fine... thanks Netz From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 24 07:37:40 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Steve Munsell) Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 02:37:40 -0400 Subject: YDL 2.3 can i upgrade to 3.0 from within 2.3? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <377EFA9C-8DB2-11D7-86A0-000393C838C2@contagiousgraphics.com> --Apple-Mail-87-289132903 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-88-289132903 --Apple-Mail-88-289132903 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed i had similar crashes on install of v3... i took my g4 card out of the 7300 put a 604 card back in, and after install put g4 card back in and it runs like a champ... On Saturday, May 24, 2003, at 02:05 AM, Netzer Antonio wrote: > 7300/308mb ram, g3 upgrade card, ide controller card, 80 gig hard > drive (3g for linux), ati 128xclaim vr, usb/firewire pci card. > > i was able to install and run 2.3, > i've tried everything to get 3.0 to install, but installer crashes > upon choosing a partitioning method... > so i'm wondering if it's possible to do the upgrade within 2.3, which > boots up fine... > > thanks > > > Netz > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > > "The power of the press goes to the individual who owns one..." Steve Munsell steve@contagiousgraphics.com (work) sneferu@mac.com (personal) IM - TheSneferu Contagious Graphics 8107 Arrowridge Blvd Suite S Charlotte, NC 28273 704-529-5600 --Apple-Mail-88-289132903 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII i had similar crashes on install of v3... i took my g4 card out of the 7300 put a 604 card back in, and after install put g4 card back in and it runs like a champ... On Saturday, May 24, 2003, at 02:05 AM, Netzer Antonio wrote: 7300/308mb ram, g3 upgrade card, ide controller card, 80 gig hard drive (3g for linux), ati 128xclaim vr, usb/firewire pci card. i was able to install and run 2.3, i've tried everything to get 3.0 to install, but installer crashes upon choosing a partitioning method... so i'm wondering if it's possible to do the upgrade within 2.3, which boots up fine... thanks Netz _______________________________________________ yellowdog-newbie mailing list yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie "The power of the press goes to the individual who owns one..." Steve Munsell 1919,1919,FFFFsteve@contagiousgraphics.com (work) 1919,1919,FFFFsneferu@mac.com (personal) IM - TheSneferu Contagious Graphics 8107 Arrowridge Blvd Suite S Charlotte, NC 28273 704-529-5600 --Apple-Mail-88-289132903-- --Apple-Mail-87-289132903 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=Steve.vcf Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/directory; x-unix-mode=0666; name="Steve.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD=0D VERSION:3.0=0D N:Munsell;Steve;;;=0D FN:Steve Munsell=0D ORG:Contagious Graphics;=0D TITLE:Boss Man=0D EMAIL;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:steve@contagiousgraphics.com=0D EMAIL;type=3DHOME:sneferu@mac.com=0D TEL;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:704-529-5600=0D TEL;type=3DHOME:704-563-1427=0D TEL;type=3DCELL:704-618-0115=0D ADR;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:;;8107 Arrowridge Blvd Suite = S;Charlotte;NC;28273;USA=0D ADR;type=3DHOME:;;1748 Flynnwood Dr;Charlotte;NC;28205;USA=0D URL:www.contagiousgraphics.com=0D X-AIM;type=3DHOME;type=3Dpref:TheSneferu=0D END:VCARD=0D --Apple-Mail-87-289132903 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-89-289132904 --Apple-Mail-89-289132904 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed --Apple-Mail-89-289132904 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII --Apple-Mail-89-289132904-- --Apple-Mail-87-289132903-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 24 08:39:35 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Jeff Burton) Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 00:39:35 -0700 Subject: G3 ibook cdrom install problem Message-ID: Problem: -when trying to install YDL 3.0 on my G3 iBook, the process hangs up. sometimes during the installation of packages, sometimes before i even get to the graphical install screen, sometimes during the pre-install selections, partitioning and such. -first time install, over 50% of packages installed, subsequent tries, usually no more than 30 packages or so. -what happens is the cd-rom starts making noises, spinning up, stopping, etc. sounds like the cd is speeding up, slowing down, lots o' chunka-chunka noises all through. This continues, and the install process stops. The same install discs worked perfectly on my G4, and I can install OS9 fine on the ibook. ibook previously had YDL 2.3 and OS9 on it, I decided to upgrade to YDL 3, and the ibook has a 3 gig HD (no more OS9).... I read somewhere else in the list archive about the same thing happening on a G3 iMac. Suggestions were: lower the burner write speed, and that the noises were due to the older optical drive trying to read newer 700mb cds. So i burned the install discs onto 650's instead, no work. Lowered burn speed...try again still chunka-chunka and a stopped install. I've left the process going for an hour or so...nothing moves, and i really don't like the sound that cd drive is making.... Anyone know what I should be doing? Alternatively, the YDL site says that with anaconda, you can install from cdrom, ftp, http, etc... I would like to do an ftp install....how do i do that? I can't find a how-to for some reason...only stuff about upgrading from 2.3 to 3, and I'd rather do a nice clean install with YDL3.0.. help! thankyou. jeff From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 24 09:53:04 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Christopher Baskind) Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 03:53:04 -0500 Subject: iBook CUPS problem Message-ID: <200305240353.04980.kit@paperfrog.com> Feeling dumb here. I can see my printer under USB devices in the KDE control center. Ran through the web-based CUPS configuration, and everything looked fine. But the print job simply queues. On boot, I see one error: cannot update /etc/fstab. CUPS starts normally. I also see this error in CUPS administration: "Unable to open USB device "usb:/dev/usb/lp0": No such device" What am I missing? Printing is nice to have. ;-) Thanks, kit From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 24 10:51:15 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Suzanne Payne) Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 10:51:15 +0100 Subject: X on Pismo failing to start! Message-ID: <2147483647.1053773475@[192.168.1.2]> I'm having major problems getting the XF86Config correct for my Pismo. I installed via the text install as I originally had a problem with the network settings when I tried the graphical installer. Ironically I could get X to start after the graphical install (why oh why oh why didn't I save the XF86Config file from that install!!!), but I had no network and couldn't work out how to manually get the network up and running - so I thought another reinstall from scratch would be easier! :-( This is now the third time I've reinstalled YDL 3.0 in an effort to get the installers to set everything correctly! The relevant section of the XF86Config says: Section "Device" Identifier "ATI Rage 128 Mobility" Driver "r128" Option "UseFBDev" VendorName "ATI Rage 128 Mobility" BoardName "ATI Rage 128 Mobility" EndSection But when I startx it crashes out with no screens and the log says: (II) Loading sub module "fbdevhw" (II) LoadModule "fbdevhw" (II) Reloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libfbdevhw.a (WW) Open /dev/fb2: No such device (WW) Open /dev/fb3: No such device ...... (it tries to open up to /dev/fb7 with the same result) (EE) R128(0) failed to open framebuffer device /dev/fb0-31 do exist! I've checked! I've run Xautoconfig and its XF86Config file (which uses the driver "fbdev instead of "r128") also crashes out with another FBDEV error: (EE) FBDEV(0): FBIOPUT_VSCREENINFO: Invalid argument (EE) FBDEV(0): Mode init failed Getting sooooooooooooooo annoyed :( Anyone? Suzanne From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 24 16:50:53 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Greg Torok) Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 08:50:53 -0700 Subject: Powerbook 2400 PCMCIA Message-ID: <5832878.1053791453234.JavaMail.appleseed@mac.com> I am trying to configure YDL 3.0 for the first time (from CD) on my Powerbook 2400c. Installation went beautifully, but I can't get YDL to recognize the 2400's PCMCIA slots. I tried editing the /etc/sysconfig/pcmcia and /etc/pcmcia/config.opts files using the information posted elsewhere for previous Linux distros on the 2400, but no luck. In the System Tools - System Info, the PCI info shows that the PCMCIA hardware is there, but in the PCMCIA info it always says something to the effect of PCMCIA not detected. Also, in the startup sequence, it appears that PCMCIA does load successfully. Has anyone figured out how to get PCMCIA working on a 2400c? Greg From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 24 17:13:29 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Ren=?ISO-8859-1?B?6SBN+A==?=lsted) Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 18:13:29 +0200 Subject: Apt-get not working Message-ID: Hi there I'm trying to update my system (YDL 3.0) via apt but get this error: [root@localhost Desktop]# atp-get update bash: atp-get: command not found [root@localhost Desktop]# apt-get update Get:1 ftp://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com apt/3.0 release [486B] Fetched 486B in 2s (168B/s) Get:1 ftp://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com apt/3.0/base pkglist Err ftp://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com apt/3.0/base pkglist Unable to fetch file, server said '/pub/yellowdog/apt/3.0/base/pkglist.base.bz2: No such file or directory ' Get:2 ftp://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com apt/3.0/base release Ign ftp://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com apt/3.0/base release Get:3 ftp://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com apt/3.0/base srclist Err ftp://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com apt/3.0/base srclist Unable to fetch file, server said '/pub/yellowdog/apt/3.0/base/srclist.base.bz2: No such file or directory ' Hit ftp://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com apt/3.0/update pkglist Hit ftp://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com apt/3.0/update release Hit ftp://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com apt/3.0/update srclist Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com/pub/yellowdog/apt/3.0/base/pkglist.base Unable to fetch file, server said '/pub/ye llowdog/apt/3.0/base/pkglist.base.bz2: No such file or directory ' Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com/pub/yellowdog/apt/3.0/base/srclist.base Unable to fetch file, server said '/pub/ye llowdog/apt/3.0/base/srclist.base.bz2: No such file or directory ' Reading Package Lists... Done W: Release file did not contain checksum information for ftp://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com/pub/yellowdog/apt/3.0/base/pkglist.base W: Release file did not contain checksum information for ftp://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com/pub/yellowdog/apt/3.0/base/release.base W: Release file did not contain checksum information for ftp://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com/pub/yellowdog/apt/3.0/base/srclist.base W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. Hope someone can inlight me ;o) Ren=E9 M=F8lsted From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 24 18:29:12 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Nigel Horne) Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 18:29:12 +0100 Subject: Powerbook 2400 PCMCIA In-Reply-To: <5832878.1053791453234.JavaMail.appleseed@mac.com> References: <5832878.1053791453234.JavaMail.appleseed@mac.com> Message-ID: <200305241829.12194.njh@bandsman.co.uk> --Boundary-00=_ov6z+AuOaCLfPUD Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I can't speak for the YDL3.0 on the 2400, but the PCMCIA config that YD shipped with 2.2 didn't work on a Powerbook G4. I've attached the config.opts that I used. I make no promises, but it can do no harm to try... -Nigel -- Nigel Horne. Arranger, Composer, Typesetter. NJH Music, Barnsley, UK. ICQ#20252325 njh@despammed.com http://www.bandsman.co.uk --Boundary-00=_ov6z+AuOaCLfPUD Content-Type: text/x-csrc; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="config.opts" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="config.opts" # # Local PCMCIA Configuration File # #---------------------------------------------------------------------- # System resources available for PCMCIA devices include memory 0x90000000-0x9003ffff # njh@despammed.com include memory 0xa0000000-0xafffffff include port 0x1000-0x1fff include port 0x100-0x4ff # Extra port range for IBM Token Ring #include port 0xa00-0xaff # Resources we should not use, even if they appear to be available # First built-in serial port #exclude irq 4 # Second built-in serial port #exclude irq 3 # First built-in parallel port #exclude irq 7 # PS/2 Mouse controller port, comment this out if you don't have a PS/2 # based mouse #exclude irq 12 #---------------------------------------------------------------------- # Examples of options for loadable modules # To fix sluggish network with IBM ethernet adapter... #module "pcnet_cs" opts "mem_speed=600" # Options for IBM Token Ring adapters #module "ibmtr_cs" opts "mmiobase=0xd0000 srambase=0xd4000" # Options for Raylink/WebGear driver: uncomment only one line... # Generic ad-hoc network module "ray_cs" opts "essid=ADHOC_ESSID hop_dwell=128 beacon_period=256 translate=1" # Infrastructure network for older cards #module "ray_cs" opts "net_type=1 essid=ESSID1" # Infrastructure network for WebGear #module "ray_cs" opts "net_type=1 essid=ESSID1 translate=1 hop_dwell=128 beacon_period=256" # Options for WaveLAN/IEEE driver (AccessPoint mode)... module "wvlan_cs" opts "station_name=lombard" # Options for WaveLAN/IEEE driver (ad-hoc mode)... #module "wvlan_cs" opts "port_type=3 channel=1 station_name=lombard" # Options for Xircom Netwave driver... #module "netwave_cs" opts "domain=0x100 scramble_key=0x0" --Boundary-00=_ov6z+AuOaCLfPUD-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 24 23:04:58 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Dan A. Milisic) Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 18:04:58 -0400 Subject: YDL 2.3 can i upgrade to 3.0 from within 2.3? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002201c32240$85fe1b20$0200a8c0@zerok7> This might help... I successfully upgraded a 2.3 base install to 3.0 = using apt-get. D. -----Original Message----- From: Dan A. Milisic [mailto:dmilisic@canada.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 2:17 AM To: 'yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com' Subject: Upgrading to 2.3 to 3.0 -- Shotgun Approach, one more thing... If anyone is brave enough to try this on an existing install, make = -sure- you delete any old 2.3 .rpm's in /var/cache/apt/archives/ before you download the 3.0 updates! Bad things will obviously happen if you force install multiple versions of the same package. On a clean install, /var/cache/apt/archives/ would have already been empty. Don't let this = bite you! =20 D. -----Original Message----- BrianDump... My experience upgrading a "Base" YDL 2.3 install to 3.0 on OldWorld Mac (PM8600) so as always, YMMV. I guess backing off some 2.3 packages from an existing install (Gnome/Kde pkgs and associated .prefs, etc..) would yield similar results. Installing YDL 3.0 from a 2.3 CD. Do a clean YDL 2.3 install, select the option "Base Install" and set up = your networking Login as root: Edit your /etc/apt/sources.list to point at your 3.0 repository=20 Pick a 3.0 Mirror, this as an example: rpm ftp://ftp.uit.no/pub/linux/yellowdog/ apt/3.0 main =20 rpm-src ftp://ftp.uit.no/pub/linux/yellowdog/ apt/3.0 main =20 rpm ftp://ftp.uit.no/pub/linux/yellowdog/ apt/3.0 update =20 rpm-src ftp://ftp.uit.no/pub/linux/yellowdog/ apt/3.0 update =20 Once that's done. [root@powermac root]# apt-get update [root@powermac root]# apt-get dist-upgrade After apt gets all the updates, rpm will proceed to freak out when it attempts to install the 3.0 .rpm files: rpmlib(PartialHardlinkSets) <=3D 4.0.4-1 is needed by ... Okay then, fine. Shotgun time:=20 [root@powermac root]# Rpm -uvh --nodeps --force /var/cache/apt/archives/*.rpm rpm force-installs *all* the 3.0 rpm's we got from the dist-upgrade = earlier. [root@powermac root]# reboot <.> _________________________________ Yellow Dog Linux release 3.0 (Sirius) Kernel 2.4.20 on an ppc powermac login: Looks good. login and dist-upgrade again: [root@powermac root]# apt-get dist-upgrade At this point apt will start to upgrade packages that were missed on the last go-round. It will warn you that your computer may explode or kill = your dog in the upgrade process. Reply to apt's dire warnings with "Yes, do = as I say!" These packages get the upgrade treatment on the second-go round, FYI: =20 initscripts pam cyrus-sasl-plain cyrus-sasl-gssapi cyrus-sasl-md5 openldap libuser passwd usermode compat-libstdc++ compat-db compat-pwdb gnupg kbd Apt should successfully install the above packages. Not sure if all the reboots are necessary but. [root@powermac root]# reboot There may be a couple of minor startup errors you'll have to correct, = but at this point you've officially joined the 3.0 party. I browsed the = package list and used apt-get to put together a Gnome 2 environment. Went = directly to rpmfind and grabbed synaptic, a fantastic apt frontend I used a lot = in Debian, makes distro customization a breeze. I have an OldWorld box so = I had to mess with getting the 'official' kernel downloaded and on to my = HFS partition for BootX. So far I'm very, very impressed with YDL 3.0. The stock 2.4.20 kernel handled all my semi-weird hardware with no hiccups (except an = intermittent Opti USB chip bug, but that's not the distro's fault.) MOL ran OSX 10.2 with minimal configuration, and dare I say it, faster than native OSX in some areas. Not to mention my 8600's 'control' Video now runs OSX in 1280x1024xThousands, something OSX could -never- do natively. And OSX's volume control slider now works in MOL where it didn't natively. Go = figure. This is a release worth owning on CD, the test-drive just sold me ;) Regards, Dan. -----Original Message----- From: yellowdog-newbie-admin@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com [mailto:yellowdog-newbie-admin@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com] On Behalf = Of Netzer Antonio Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2003 2:06 AM To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Subject: YDL 2.3 can i upgrade to 3.0 from within 2.3? 7300/308mb ram, g3 upgrade card, ide controller card, 80 gig hard drive=20 (3g for linux), ati 128xclaim vr, usb/firewire pci card. i was able to install and run 2.3, i've tried everything to get 3.0 to install, but installer crashes=20 upon choosing a partitioning method... so i'm wondering if it's possible to do the upgrade within 2.3, which=20 boots up fine... thanks Netz _______________________________________________ yellowdog-newbie mailing list yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun May 25 01:40:25 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (TJ) Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 20:40:25 -0400 Subject: Want to post to the list?? Message-ID: My email is - maclinux@macdynamix.com How do I post now? From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun May 25 05:05:59 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (TJ) Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 00:05:59 -0400 Subject: Need help installing on 8500/180 please... Message-ID: I seem to be having troubles also... Not necessarily with burning the ISO's but the actually installs... I've gotten all the ISO's to mount and burn properly, and I'll get it to run the anaconda installer and go through initial configuring but during the install process I get errors at random points and it quits the installer and I have to start over. What's most odd is that on the RPMs where it catches errors it is not always the same one. So I'm totally dumbfounded now. Maybe if I describe my set up and how I am trying to do it you can point out a mistake I'm doing? 8500/180 320 RAM Radeon PCI 32 meg Video ADB mouse & keyboard 40 & 20 gig HDs My 40 gig Hard drive houses my main Mac OS 9.1 and I put the 20 gig Hard drive on the 2nd channel on the ATA cable. Where I'm trying to install YDL is on the 20 gig HD by itself. All the BootX and ramdisk files and kernels are on the 40 gig in their respectable locations. Does the Linux have to be on the same drive as Mac??? I completely understand you are a newbie also but you got it to install successfully and it is now irking me to do the same :) Any further light you shine would be much appreciated. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun May 25 05:11:52 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Steve Munsell) Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 00:11:52 -0400 Subject: Need help installing on 8500/180 please... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <03EFF58E-8E67-11D7-B344-000393C838C2@contagiousgraphics.com> --Apple-Mail-4-366785310 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5-366785310 --Apple-Mail-5-366785310 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed i scratched my first cd's up a little, so i kept popping them out and back in, and it would work eventually, and if not burn a second set and when it sticks, put in the identical disk and it may pick back up... mine did On Sunday, May 25, 2003, at 12:05 AM, TJ wrote: > I seem to be having troubles also... > Not necessarily with burning the ISO's but the actually installs... > I've > gotten all the ISO's to mount and burn properly, and I'll get it to > run the > anaconda installer and go through initial configuring but during the > install > process I get errors at random points and it quits the installer and I > have > to start over. What's most odd is that on the RPMs where it catches > errors > it is not always the same one. So I'm totally dumbfounded now. > > Maybe if I describe my set up and how I am trying to do it you can > point > out a mistake I'm doing? > > 8500/180 > 320 RAM > Radeon PCI 32 meg Video > ADB mouse & keyboard > 40 & 20 gig HDs > > My 40 gig Hard drive houses my main Mac OS 9.1 and I put the 20 gig > Hard > drive on the 2nd channel on the ATA cable. Where I'm trying to install > YDL > is on the 20 gig HD by itself. All the BootX and ramdisk files and > kernels > are on the 40 gig in their respectable locations. Does the Linux have > to be > on the same drive as Mac??? I completely understand you are a newbie > also > but you got it to install successfully and it is now irking me to do > the > same :) Any further light you shine would be much appreciated. > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > > "The power of the press goes to the individual who owns one..." Steve Munsell steve@contagiousgraphics.com (work) sneferu@mac.com (personal) IM - TheSneferu Contagious Graphics 8107 Arrowridge Blvd Suite S Charlotte, NC 28273 704-529-5600 --Apple-Mail-5-366785310 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII i scratched my first cd's up a little, so i kept popping them out and back in, and it would work eventually, and if not burn a second set and when it sticks, put in the identical disk and it may pick back up... mine did On Sunday, May 25, 2003, at 12:05 AM, TJ wrote: I seem to be having troubles also... Not necessarily with burning the ISO's but the actually installs... I've gotten all the ISO's to mount and burn properly, and I'll get it to run the anaconda installer and go through initial configuring but during the install process I get errors at random points and it quits the installer and I have to start over. What's most odd is that on the RPMs where it catches errors it is not always the same one. So I'm totally dumbfounded now. Maybe if I describe my set up and how I am trying to do it you can point out a mistake I'm doing? 8500/180 320 RAM Radeon PCI 32 meg Video ADB mouse & keyboard 40 & 20 gig HDs My 40 gig Hard drive houses my main Mac OS 9.1 and I put the 20 gig Hard drive on the 2nd channel on the ATA cable. Where I'm trying to install YDL is on the 20 gig HD by itself. All the BootX and ramdisk files and kernels are on the 40 gig in their respectable locations. Does the Linux have to be on the same drive as Mac??? I completely understand you are a newbie also but you got it to install successfully and it is now irking me to do the same :) Any further light you shine would be much appreciated. _______________________________________________ yellowdog-newbie mailing list yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie "The power of the press goes to the individual who owns one..." Steve Munsell 1919,1919,FFFFsteve@contagiousgraphics.com (work) 1919,1919,FFFFsneferu@mac.com (personal) IM - TheSneferu Contagious Graphics 8107 Arrowridge Blvd Suite S Charlotte, NC 28273 704-529-5600 --Apple-Mail-5-366785310-- --Apple-Mail-4-366785310 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=Steve.vcf Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/directory; x-unix-mode=0666; name="Steve.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD=0D VERSION:3.0=0D N:Munsell;Steve;;;=0D FN:Steve Munsell=0D ORG:Contagious Graphics;=0D TITLE:Boss Man=0D EMAIL;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:steve@contagiousgraphics.com=0D EMAIL;type=3DHOME:sneferu@mac.com=0D TEL;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:704-529-5600=0D TEL;type=3DHOME:704-563-1427=0D TEL;type=3DCELL:704-618-0115=0D ADR;type=3DWORK;type=3Dpref:;;8107 Arrowridge Blvd Suite = S;Charlotte;NC;28273;USA=0D ADR;type=3DHOME:;;1748 Flynnwood Dr;Charlotte;NC;28205;USA=0D URL:www.contagiousgraphics.com=0D X-AIM;type=3DHOME;type=3Dpref:TheSneferu=0D END:VCARD=0D --Apple-Mail-4-366785310 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6-366785311 --Apple-Mail-6-366785311 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed --Apple-Mail-6-366785311 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII --Apple-Mail-6-366785311-- --Apple-Mail-4-366785310-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun May 25 05:44:31 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (TJ) Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 00:44:31 -0400 Subject: Would a Sonnet card fail the installer? Message-ID: Does anyone know if it would cause issues during installation? From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun May 25 06:47:01 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Andrew McVinnie) Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 23:47:01 -0600 Subject: Would a Sonnet card fail the installer? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4E735AF4-8E74-11D7-A042-000393DF0184@mac.com> they have been known to cause issues in the installer. just pop the old card back in, then install, then pop the upgrade card back in afterward On Saturday, May 24, 2003, at 10:44 PM, TJ wrote: > Does anyone know if it would cause issues during installation? > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun May 25 09:56:53 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Jason Stevens) Date: 25 May 2003 11:56:53 +0300 Subject: Apt-get not working In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1053853012.1265.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> This happens every time I run apt-get. What works for me is typing "apt-get update -f" and then "apt-get upgrade -f". On Sat, 2003-05-24 at 19:13, Ren=?ISO-8859-1?B?6SBN+A==?=lsted wrote: > Hi there > I'm trying to update my system (YDL 3.0) via apt but get this error: > > [root@localhost Desktop]# atp-get update > bash: atp-get: command not found > [root@localhost Desktop]# apt-get update > Get:1 ftp://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com apt/3.0 release [486B] > Fetched 486B in 2s (168B/s) > Get:1 ftp://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com apt/3.0/base pkglist > Err ftp://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com apt/3.0/base pkglist > Unable to fetch file, server said > '/pub/yellowdog/apt/3.0/base/pkglist.base.bz2: No such file or > directory ' > Get:2 ftp://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com apt/3.0/base release > Ign ftp://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com apt/3.0/base release > Get:3 ftp://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com apt/3.0/base srclist > Err ftp://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com apt/3.0/base srclist > Unable to fetch file, server said > '/pub/yellowdog/apt/3.0/base/srclist.base.bz2: No such file or > directory ' > Hit ftp://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com apt/3.0/update pkglist > Hit ftp://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com apt/3.0/update release > Hit ftp://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com apt/3.0/update srclist > Failed to fetch > ftp://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com/pub/yellowdog/apt/3.0/base/pkglist.base > Unable to fetch file, server said '/pub/ye > llowdog/apt/3.0/base/pkglist.base.bz2: No such file or directory ' > Failed to fetch > ftp://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com/pub/yellowdog/apt/3.0/base/srclist.base > Unable to fetch file, server said '/pub/ye > llowdog/apt/3.0/base/srclist.base.bz2: No such file or directory ' > Reading Package Lists... Done > W: Release file did not contain checksum information for > ftp://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com/pub/yellowdog/apt/3.0/base/pkglist.base > W: Release file did not contain checksum information for > ftp://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com/pub/yellowdog/apt/3.0/base/release.base > W: Release file did not contain checksum information for > ftp://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com/pub/yellowdog/apt/3.0/base/srclist.base > W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems > E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old > ones used instead. > > Hope someone can inlight me ;o) > > René Mølsted > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun May 25 10:51:01 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Jason Stevens) Date: 25 May 2003 12:51:01 +0300 Subject: Installing MPlayer via apt In-Reply-To: <59DC0BAA-8D2D-11D7-A0EA-000393DF0184@mac.com> References: <59DC0BAA-8D2D-11D7-A0EA-000393DF0184@mac.com> Message-ID: <1053856260.1421.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Andrew, thanks for the information. What is the procedure for installing the files via RPM in the terminal? I imagine I'll need to know this if I want to install extra programs in the future. On Fri, 2003-05-23 at 17:46, Andrew McVinnie wrote: > I went to your URL, downloaded all three MPlayer files and tried to > install them via RPM in the terminal. It did not install that way > either, it had a crap load of dependancies that failed. > > Andrew McVinnie > > On Friday, May 23, 2003, at 06:39 AM, Jason Stevens wrote: > > > I would like to install MPlayer using apt, but haven't managed to > > figure > > out the process. The package I want is located at: > > http://ayo.freshrpms.net/yellowdog/3.0/ppc/RPMS.freshrpms > > I have already tried to add this location to my apt source list by > > running (as root) "pico /etc/apt/sources.list" and adding an entry for > > the new location, but it failed to work. Instead, a new file named > > "/etc/apt/sources.list" was created and running "apt-get install > > mplayer" does not find the package. > > Is there an easier way to install the package, or must I do something > > differently to the sources list? > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun May 25 19:04:44 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Seth Matheson) Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 14:04:44 -0400 Subject: iBook Modem Message-ID: <20030525140444913694.GyazMail.sethmath@mac.com> I just installed YDL 3 on my 700Mhz iBook, runs pretty well. One thing, I can't configure my modem to connect to the internet. Using, KPPP, it can never find the modem. I've selected every type of modem in the config menu, even the types that are only supposed to work on windows machines. The closest I can get is selecting /dev/modem, where it says the modem is ready, but then never responds to anything else, and then says it can't find it. The modem works fine in 10.2.6, (dual boot) and i remember it being referred to somewhere in X as /dev/cu.modem, however this is not an option on the config menu of KPPP. Help? ~Seth Matheson From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun May 25 19:29:31 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (mauro) Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 20:29:31 +0200 Subject: iBook Modem In-Reply-To: <20030525140444913694.GyazMail.sethmath@mac.com> Message-ID: That is a normal trouble having an hardware or internal modem, and it happens with all the distros, for both macs or peecees... The problem can be fixed using an external modem, or searching the right driver for your internal modem chipset for linux, even i think it'll be hard to find it for Mac, being the Mac's distros much less developed then Intel based computer ones... anyway, try to search it with google.com/linux, giving before a glance to the Apple system profiler to reach all the info about your modem. Good Louck Mauro > I just installed YDL 3 on my 700Mhz iBook, runs pretty well. One > thing, I can't configure my modem to connect to the internet. Using, > KPPP, it can never find the modem. I've selected > every type of modem in the config menu, even the types that are only > supposed to work on windows machines. The closest I can get is > selecting /dev/modem, where it says the modem is ready, but then never > responds to anything else, and then says it can't find it. The modem > works fine in 10.2.6, (dual boot) and i remember it being referred to > somewhere in X as /dev/cu.modem, however this is not an option on the > config menu of KPPP. Help? > > ~Seth Matheson > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun May 25 21:13:37 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Edward M. Corrado) Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 16:13:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Upgrading OS X Message-ID: I have a iBook running YDL 2.3 and an OS X 10.1.5. I just received the newest version of OS X and want to do an upgrade (but at the same time don't want to wipe out YDL). I don't expect any problems, but just wanted to know if anyone who has done this has any "heads up" for me before I start doing this. Thanks, Ed C. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun May 25 22:46:47 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Jonas Nilsson) Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 22:46:47 +0100 Subject: X problems Message-ID: <1053895607016619@lycos-europe.com> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --=_NextPart_Lycos_0166191053895607_ID Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Installed YDL today on my new DP 1.25 G4. The instalation was a no brainer however when YDL started for the first time from the disk the X screen got all messed up. I got a Radeon 9000 in my computer and I did choose that card in the installer. Strange thing is that the mouse is showing up as it should which would point to a software problem with YDL. I also got the partition bug problem but to fix that i need YDL up and running! Thanx in advance!! _____________________________________________________________ H=E4r b=F6rjar internet! Skaffa gratis e-mail och gratis internet p=E5 http://www.spray.se Hitta r=E4tt p=E5 internet med Lycos - http://lycos.spray.se --=_NextPart_Lycos_0166191053895607_ID-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun May 25 22:39:14 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (TJ) Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 17:39:14 -0400 Subject: Redhat-config-network Errors?? Message-ID: I just installed YDL 3.0 on an iBook bwing that I can't get it to install on my 8500 :( When I try to run this: System Stteings>Network I always get a Exception Occurred... Am I the only the one with this issue... Did it not install properly?? Any help would be appreciated.. Thank you once again. Jack From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun May 25 22:39:26 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Jack) Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 17:39:26 -0400 Subject: Redhat-config-network Errors?? Message-ID: I just installed YDL 3.0 on an iBook bwing that I can't get it to install on my 8500 :( When I try to run this: System Stteings>Network I always get a Exception Occurred... Am I the only the one with this issue... Did it not install properly?? Any help would be appreciated.. Thank you once again. Jack From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun May 25 22:41:18 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Beartooth) Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 14:41:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: "Guide to Installation" my foot! Message-ID: All right, I bought the CDs, intending to install over the top of 2.3 -- and sacrifice everything already there , since there seems to be no option of preserving any, as for instance RH9 does. That's one crock already, though not a surprise. But 2.3 is so bad at the multiple connections you need with a laptop that it's gotta be done, The accompanying book and pamphlet both insist that one use the so-called Guide to Installation, printed out from the Yellowdoglinux.com site. All I can find seems to be identical to the little pamphlet (called a Companion, not a guide), which came with the CDs, which insists that it is only an addendum. That's another and more disgusting crock. Joseph Heller, are you YDL's silent partner?? So I decide to try to go ahead -- after all, they brag about how easy it is, and how much like RH9 (which I have just installed on my desktop). First I go read the manual and the non-guide "companion" -- which tell me to start by repartitioning, using the apple install disk. So I go dig that out. When I get to something remotely resembling the place they tell me, a window labelled Select a Destination, there are images of hard drives labelled Mac OS X 10.3GB, share 1.0GB, and a faint image of a CD labelled Mac OS X Install CD 639MB Now I'm supposed to double-click on the install CD. But if you put a cursor near it, you get a message saying "This disk is dimmed because it is read only" -- and if you double-click it anyway, nothing happens. You can't even get to the Utilities folder, let alone one inside it. Still another crock, and still getting worse. All right, trying to get out of that, I go back and re-boot, with the C key held down till my arm about falls off, while the CD makes a huge racket, just as I did (and it did) before. That simply closes the loop, and gets me back to the dim disk. Still another crock. So maybe it's just the ostensibly fine manual that's snafu'd. Put in 3.0 Install 1 without reartitioning first; maybe that'll do it. Of course they don't tell you you have to hold C again -- unless it's in that boot message, which is so tiny and goes by in seconds, anyway; so you waste still more time. But you do eventually get to "Welcome to Yellow Dog Linux" -- which tells you yet again to read the fine but non-extant Guide ... [To Be Continued -- stay tuned] -- Beartooth Implacable FREE at last: Retired to the Mountains, No Mortgage From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun May 25 22:56:00 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Seth Matheson) Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 17:56:00 -0400 Subject: Redhat-config-network Errors?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20030525175600116115.GyazMail.sethmath@mac.com> Your not alone, I just installed YDL 3 on my 700 Mhz iBook, same errors. ethernet connections work though, I just can't change / view any settings. ~Seth Matheson On Sun, 25 May 2003 17:39:14 -0400, TJ wrote: > I just installed YDL 3.0 on an iBook bwing that I can't get it to install on > my 8500 :( > > When I try to run this: > System Stteings>Network I always get a Exception Occurred... > > Am I the only the one with this issue... Did it not install properly?? > > Any help would be appreciated.. Thank you once again. > > Jack > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun May 25 23:15:55 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Jason Stevens) Date: 26 May 2003 01:15:55 +0300 Subject: "Guide to Installation" my foot! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1053900955.1635.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> OK, it sounds like you are trying to just do a fresh install of YDL 3.0, so you need to start by preparing your hard drive using a bootable Mac OS install CD. Grab a paper clip, because you'll need it. First, insert the Mac OS install CD1 and restart the computer with the C key depressed. When you enter the Mac OS installer, access the Disk Utility from one of the menus at the top of the screen (I think it's the one just to the right of the Apple menu). You'll need to click to select the drive(s) in question. This should probably include any disk or partition other than the Mac OS install CD (since it can't be initialized). Next, click on the Partition tab. If you plan to run a Linux-only system, select 1 partition from the drop-down list. If you need more partitions, select the appropriate number. You'll then need to size each partition (if more than one) and select a format for each, and whether you want to install OS 9 drivers (unnecessary if you won't be installing OS 9). For the Linux partition, you'll want to select Free Space. The name of the partition will default to Extra. Then proceed by clicking the Partition button. The process should only take a matter of seconds. When it's done, assuming you won't be installing Mac OS, just exit the Disk Utility and use a straightened paper clip to eject the CD out of the drive. If you've not done this before, Apple CD drives have a little hole somewhere on them into which you can insert a paper clip for manually ejecting a disk. Now that your disk is ready, insert the YDL install disk 1 into the CD drive. You'll need to force the computer off by holding the power button down for a few seconds. After the machine powers down, hold down the C key and power the computer back on. You'll enter the YDL installer and all will be grand. Paljon onnea! Terveisin, Jason On Mon, 2003-05-26 at 00:41, Beartooth wrote: > All right, I bought the CDs, intending to install over the top > of 2.3 -- and sacrifice everything already there , > since there seems to be no option of preserving any, as for instance RH9 > does. That's one crock already, though not a surprise. But 2.3 is so bad > at the multiple connections you need with a laptop that it's gotta be > done, > > The accompanying book and pamphlet both insist that one use the > so-called Guide to Installation, printed out from the Yellowdoglinux.com > site. All I can find seems to be identical to the little pamphlet > (called a Companion, not a guide), which came with the CDs, which > insists that it is only an addendum. That's another and more disgusting > crock. Joseph Heller, are you YDL's silent partner?? > > So I decide to try to go ahead -- after all, they brag about how > easy it is, and how much like RH9 (which I have just installed on my > desktop). > > First I go read the manual and the non-guide "companion" -- > which tell me to start by repartitioning, using the apple install disk. > So I go dig that out. When I get to something remotely resembling the > place they tell me, a window labelled Select a Destination, there are > images of hard drives labelled Mac OS X 10.3GB, share 1.0GB, and a faint > image of a CD labelled Mac OS X Install CD 639MB > > Now I'm supposed to double-click on the install CD. But if you > put a cursor near it, you get a message saying "This disk is dimmed > because it is read only" -- and if you double-click it anyway, nothing > happens. You can't even get to the Utilities folder, let alone one > inside it. Still another crock, and still getting worse. > > All right, trying to get out of that, I go back and re-boot, > with the C key held down till my arm about falls off, while the CD makes > a huge racket, just as I did (and it did) before. That simply closes the > loop, and gets me back to the dim disk. Still another crock. > > So maybe it's just the ostensibly fine manual that's snafu'd. > Put in 3.0 Install 1 without reartitioning first; maybe that'll do it. > > Of course they don't tell you you have to hold C again -- unless > it's in that boot message, which is so tiny and goes by in seconds, > anyway; so you waste still more time. But you do eventually get to > "Welcome to Yellow Dog Linux" -- which tells you yet again to read the > fine but non-extant Guide ... > > [To Be Continued -- stay tuned] From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun May 25 23:21:28 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Jason Stevens) Date: 26 May 2003 01:21:28 +0300 Subject: Upgrading OS X In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1053901288.1634.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> You can safely upgrade your Mac OS without affecting your YDL installation. The Mac OS is contained on another partition of your hard drive, so what you do there won't affect other partitions containing different operating systems. Just boot the computer from your new OS X install CD and start the installation. You'll be prompted for the destination disk early on, and the only disk(s) that will be displayed will be those formatted for Mac OS. On Sun, 2003-05-25 at 23:13, Edward M. Corrado wrote: > I have a iBook running YDL 2.3 and an OS X 10.1.5. I just received the > newest version of OS X and want to do an upgrade (but at the same time > don't want to wipe out YDL). I don't expect any problems, but just wanted > to know if anyone who has done this has any "heads up" for me before I > start doing this. > > Thanks, > > Ed C. > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun May 25 23:29:40 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Jack) Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 18:29:40 -0400 Subject: Redhat-config-network Errors?? Message-ID: >Your not alone, I just installed YDL 3 on my 700 Mhz iBook, same >errors. ethernet connections work though, I just can't change / view >any settings. >~Seth Matheson I've tried removing that rom and reinstalling it to no avail either... I would really like to config the network so that I can use my airport card if possible and use the wireless router I bought... Any light someone can shed?? Please? Seth are you using the 10/100 port ot wireless??? From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun May 25 23:30:52 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Bert Knabe) Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 17:30:52 -0500 Subject: Ugly yellow highlighting Message-ID: I just installed YD 3.0 on a Motorola Starmax 3000/180 with a Newertech G3/320 upgrade (160mb RAM). It runs great, but there is a very ugly, very annoying yellow cast to the screen. If you shade a window then unshade it again, the highlight will disappear from the window proper, although the borders and title bar remain highlighted. I've tried changing every display setting I can find and nothing helps. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon May 26 02:59:58 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Jack) Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 21:59:58 -0400 Subject: Error installing YDL 3.0 (/mnt/source/.discinfo) UPDATE Message-ID: Dan, I guess it makes sense that only the CD used for booting would need to be HFS. I'm just wondering if anyone else has had the same problem with the ISO files just put on the FTP servers. It almost seems like a problem with the installer scripts or something. I guess time will tell if others have the same issue. The only reason I thought it might be a problem is because OS 9 will show the file .diskinfo as _DISKINFO. instead, and I thought perhaps that might be due to the disc being in Joliet format. After doing a little experimenting, it turns out that I was barking up the wrong tree. If anyone has any ideas on what is causing the error while installing, I'd appreciate any info. Thanks again! Hi Dan, I also am getting errors when tring to locate that .discinfo directory... Seems as if that file is used by the installer to locate whatever information that is needed for installation... Seems you were absolutely correct too! disc one is HFS format and the disc 2 & 3 are ? Format and that file is names _DISKINFO :( so of course is not find its' proper ".discinfo". Have you over come this for 9 users? Please if ou have any light to shine on this I would be apprecitive :) Jack From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon May 26 02:16:24 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Seth Matheson) Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 21:16:24 -0400 Subject: Redhat-config-network Errors?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20030525211624099644.GyazMail.sethmath@mac.com> Ethernet, the 10/100. Haven't had the opportunity to try the Airport card, but wouldn't matter anyway, I can't config it to turn it on. It was working at my college campus, I just plugged it in, I guess the default is DHCP networks. Tried to set up a ethernet connection at home, sharing internet with my G4, but it didn't work. Works in OS x, just not linux. ~Seth Matheson On Sun, 25 May 2003 18:29:40 -0400, Jack wrote: >> Your not alone, I just installed YDL 3 on my 700 Mhz iBook, same >> errors. ethernet connections work though, I just can't change / view >> any settings. > >> ~Seth Matheson > > > I've tried removing that rom and reinstalling it to no avail either... I > would really like to config the network so that I can use my airport card if > possible and use the wireless router I bought... Any light someone can > shed?? Please? > > Seth are you using the 10/100 port ot wireless??? > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon May 26 07:50:03 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Nigel Horne) Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 07:50:03 +0100 Subject: Upgrading OS X In-Reply-To: <1053901288.1634.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1053901288.1634.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200305260750.03907.njh@bandsman.co.uk> So upgrading won't overwrite your (yaboot based) boot sector? -Nigel -- Nigel Horne. Arranger, Composer, Typesetter. NJH Music, Barnsley, UK. ICQ#20252325 njh@despammed.com http://www.bandsman.co.uk From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon May 26 09:42:00 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Goofus) Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 04:42:00 -0400 Subject: EXTREME newbie -- iMac Rev A Message-ID: Hi folks, First of all, I'm a Linux newbie -- and by "newbie" I mean NEWBIE! Think of me as that spiked punch served at the prom where your parents first danced! I'm not going to go into too much detail yet, because like every question I've asked about this iMac since January 2000 I expect the answer to be "you can't do [xxxxxxxxx] because you have an original iMac". If I don't get that response from this I'll post more detail. Mac OS 9 installed just fine, YDL 3.0 installed just fine, Yaboot's loading at startup just fine but it won't send me anywhere. I select "l" for Linux and it freezes at "please wait, loading kernel...", I select "m" for Mac OS and it freezes at "booting MacOS..." Now, I'll tell the stories later about why this is day #15, attempt #13,502 of me trying to get Linux on this machine, but for now...HELP?!?!?! There's a screen that says "some systems may require special commands to be sent to the bootloader..." or something like that -- do I need to put something in there? Specs: iMac, Rev. A (Bondi) 30gb hard drive 233 mhz 96mb RAM Rage IIC (Mach64), 2MB video Rage and Frustration in potential user: uncalculable Thanks in advance -- I'm sure Linux is a wonderful OS, hopefully someday I'll get to see it for myself. ;-) Donald From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon May 26 13:18:27 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Beartooth) Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 05:18:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Success anyhow -- mostly (was Re: "Guide to Installation" my foot!) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 25 May 2003, I, Beartooth wrote: > All right, I bought the CDs, intending to install over the top > of 2.3 -- and sacrifice everything already there snarl>, (snip!) > So I decide to try to go ahead -- after all, they brag about how > easy it is, and how much like RH9 (which I have just installed on my > desktop). (snip!) > ... you do eventually get to "Welcome to Yellow Dog Linux" -- which > tells you yet again to read the fine but non-extant Guide ... > > [To Be Continued -- stay tuned] Turns out they do themselves an injustice: the install process is clearer and easier than RH8, and it avoided or prevented one of the two gotchas I encountered with that: my monitor seems to be identified and configured correctly. But the other gotcha seems to be here too: now it doesn't want me to boot into the old part. I tell it x, and it asks me again -- very quickly, and still in tiny print -- saying something about "stage 1." Then, depending whether or not I keep hitting x, it either boots YDL anyway, or goes into a blank white screen that just sits there. The only reason I'm keeping OSX is for the occasional nasty case of an ISP I can't make YDL connect to; it may turn out that I don't need it any more, and if not I certainly won't miss it. If I really don't, I'll gladly re-install to let 3.0 have the whole 35GB. But meanwhile it's my backup access to the Net: how do I get to it?? -- Beartooth Implacable FREE at last: Retired to the Mountains, No Mortgage Keep iin mind that I have little idea what I'm talking about. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon May 26 14:25:43 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Jason Stevens) Date: 26 May 2003 16:25:43 +0300 Subject: Success anyhow -- mostly (was Re: "Guide to Installation" my foot!) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1053955543.1248.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> During the YDL installation, you should have encountered a screen which allows you to configure the bootloader. At that point, you can add another OS to the bootloader. If OS X was already installed, it should have appeared as an available option. At this point, you can either play with your boot options from within YDL to add an option to boot into OS X at system startup, or, preferably, install and run MOL OSX. To do that, just open a terminal as root and type "molvconfig." Carefully choose your display type from those you want to probe, and set up the appropriate display. When that's done, and you're still logged in as root, type "install mol --osx" in a terminal. It will install. Next, you'll need to run MOL by typing "startmol --osx" (you don't need to be root at this point). OS X will launch in another window with a MOL installer icon on in the Finder. You need to run the installer, which adds ethernet and audio support for running OS X within Linux. Each subsequent time you start MOL, you'll be able to connect to the Internet from OS X right on your YDL desktop. Finally, you'll probably discover that OS X is just dead weight on your system and you'll abandon it in favor of YDL. I'm hard pressed to think of something that OS X does that YDL does not. On Mon, 2003-05-26 at 15:18, Beartooth wrote: > On Sun, 25 May 2003, I, Beartooth wrote: > > > All right, I bought the CDs, intending to install over the top > > of 2.3 -- and sacrifice everything already there > snarl>, > (snip!) > > So I decide to try to go ahead -- after all, they brag about how > > easy it is, and how much like RH9 (which I have just installed on my > > desktop). > (snip!) > > ... you do eventually get to "Welcome to Yellow Dog Linux" -- which > > tells you yet again to read the fine but non-extant Guide ... > > > > [To Be Continued -- stay tuned] > > Turns out they do themselves an injustice: the install process > is clearer and easier than RH8, and it avoided or prevented one of the > two gotchas I encountered with that: my monitor seems to be identified > and configured correctly. > > But the other gotcha seems to be here too: now it doesn't want > me to boot into the old part. I tell it x, and it asks me again -- very > quickly, and still in tiny print -- saying something about "stage 1." > Then, depending whether or not I keep hitting x, it either boots YDL > anyway, or goes into a blank white screen that just sits there. > > The only reason I'm keeping OSX is for the occasional nasty case > of an ISP I can't make YDL connect to; it may turn out that I don't need > it any more, and if not I certainly won't miss it. If I really don't, > I'll gladly re-install to let 3.0 have the whole 35GB. > > But meanwhile it's my backup access to the Net: how do I get to > it?? From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sun May 25 16:12:05 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Alexander Car=?ISO-8859-1?B?9A==?=t) Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 17:12:05 +0200 Subject: Screenshot from MTR In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi to all, can anyone tell me how I can make a screenshot from a terminalcontent if it is the output of a running application like MTR ? In this case I can=B4t copy-paste the content. Any idea how to do this or is a screeshot possible and how ? Thanks in advance -- A l e x From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Mon May 26 19:37:56 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Netzer Antonio) Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 13:37:56 -0500 Subject: YDL 2.3 can i upgrade to 3.0 from within 2.3? In-Reply-To: <002201c32240$85fe1b20$0200a8c0@zerok7> Message-ID: <2AE1041B-8FA9-11D7-8A8F-0003930923CE@softhome.net> > 7300/308mb ram, g3 upgrade card, ide controller card, 80 gig hard drive > (3g for linux), ati 128xclaim vr, usb/firewire pci card. Ok, I almost ready to try this.. but just one question, I have an old word mac ,7300 and I read the following line " I have an OldWorld box so I had to mess with getting the 'official' kernel downloaded and on to my HFS partition for BootX." what exactly did you have to do??? I don't want to try the update and then find that I can't boot into it thanks Netz On Saturday, May 24, 2003, at 05:04 PM, Dan A. Milisic wrote: > This might help... I successfully upgraded a 2.3 base install to 3.0 > using > apt-get. > > D. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan A. Milisic [mailto:dmilisic@canada.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 2:17 AM > To: 'yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com' > Subject: Upgrading to 2.3 to 3.0 -- Shotgun Approach, one more thing... > > If anyone is brave enough to try this on an existing install, make > -sure- > you delete any old 2.3 .rpm's in /var/cache/apt/archives/ before you > download the 3.0 updates! Bad things will obviously happen if you > force > install multiple versions of the same package. On a clean install, > /var/cache/apt/archives/ would have already been empty. Don't let > this bite > you! > > D. > -----Original Message----- > > BrianDump... My experience upgrading a "Base" YDL 2.3 install to 3.0 on > OldWorld Mac (PM8600) so as always, YMMV. I guess backing off some 2.3 > packages from an existing install (Gnome/Kde pkgs and associated > .prefs, > etc..) would yield similar results. > > Installing YDL 3.0 from a 2.3 CD. > > Do a clean YDL 2.3 install, select the option "Base Install" and set > up your > networking > > Login as root: > > Edit your /etc/apt/sources.list to point at your 3.0 repository > > Pick a 3.0 Mirror, this as an example: > > rpm ftp://ftp.uit.no/pub/linux/yellowdog/ apt/3.0 main > rpm-src ftp://ftp.uit.no/pub/linux/yellowdog/ apt/3.0 main > > rpm ftp://ftp.uit.no/pub/linux/yellowdog/ apt/3.0 update > rpm-src ftp://ftp.uit.no/pub/linux/yellowdog/ apt/3.0 update > > Once that's done. > > [root@powermac root]# apt-get update > [root@powermac root]# apt-get dist-upgrade > > After apt gets all the updates, rpm will proceed to freak out when it > attempts to install the 3.0 .rpm files: > > rpmlib(PartialHardlinkSets) <= 4.0.4-1 is needed by ... > > Okay then, fine. Shotgun time: > > [root@powermac root]# Rpm -uvh --nodeps --force > /var/cache/apt/archives/*.rpm > > rpm force-installs *all* the 3.0 rpm's we got from the dist-upgrade > earlier. > > [root@powermac root]# reboot > > <.> > _________________________________ > > Yellow Dog Linux release 3.0 (Sirius) > Kernel 2.4.20 on an ppc > > powermac login: > > Looks good. login and dist-upgrade again: > > [root@powermac root]# apt-get dist-upgrade > > At this point apt will start to upgrade packages that were missed on > the > last go-round. It will warn you that your computer may explode or > kill your > dog in the upgrade process. Reply to apt's dire warnings with "Yes, > do as I > say!" > > These packages get the upgrade treatment on the second-go round, FYI: > > initscripts > pam > cyrus-sasl-plain > cyrus-sasl-gssapi > cyrus-sasl-md5 > openldap > libuser > passwd > usermode > compat-libstdc++ > compat-db > compat-pwdb > gnupg > kbd > > Apt should successfully install the above packages. Not sure if all > the > reboots are necessary but. > > [root@powermac root]# reboot > > There may be a couple of minor startup errors you'll have to correct, > but at > this point you've officially joined the 3.0 party. I browsed the > package > list and used apt-get to put together a Gnome 2 environment. Went > directly > to rpmfind and grabbed synaptic, a fantastic apt frontend I used a lot > in > Debian, makes distro customization a breeze. I have an OldWorld box > so I > had to mess with getting the 'official' kernel downloaded and on to my > HFS > partition for BootX. > > So far I'm very, very impressed with YDL 3.0. The stock 2.4.20 kernel > handled all my semi-weird hardware with no hiccups (except an > intermittent > Opti USB chip bug, but that's not the distro's fault.) MOL ran OSX > 10.2 > with minimal configuration, and dare I say it, faster than native OSX > in > some areas. Not to mention my 8600's 'control' Video now runs OSX in > 1280x1024xThousands, something OSX could -never- do natively. And > OSX's > volume control slider now works in MOL where it didn't natively. Go > figure. > > > > This is a release worth owning on CD, the test-drive just sold me ;) > > Regards, > Dan. > > -----Original Message----- > From: yellowdog-newbie-admin@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > [mailto:yellowdog-newbie-admin@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com] On Behalf > Of > Netzer Antonio > Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2003 2:06 AM > To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > Subject: YDL 2.3 can i upgrade to 3.0 from within 2.3? > > 7300/308mb ram, g3 upgrade card, ide controller card, 80 gig hard drive > (3g for linux), ati 128xclaim vr, usb/firewire pci card. > > i was able to install and run 2.3, > i've tried everything to get 3.0 to install, but installer crashes > upon choosing a partitioning method... > so i'm wondering if it's possible to do the upgrade within 2.3, which > boots up fine... > > thanks > > > Netz > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 27 00:50:09 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com) Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 19:50:09 -0400 Subject: pb Ti install trouble ( graphic ) Message-ID: <20030526235009.3540.qmail@prospect.ath.cx> Hello, I tried to install YDL to my PBTi 667. The graphic install didn't work ( black screen) I did the install in text mode, but when I tried to boot on my new os, black screen again. The YDL boot, and I supose that I just don't see it. I try to go to a regular console with all key combination and the key 1 or F1 impossible. I try to kill X with ctr-alt-delete , that produce some line in the screen and always the black . How change that ? From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 27 03:32:31 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Jordan Parnass) Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 22:32:31 -0400 Subject: scsi card drivers Message-ID: <000101c323f8$3cf952a0$6501a8c0@uberbox> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C323D6.B5E7B2A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am having trouble installing YDL 3 on an 8500 with an adaptec 2940UW = card pulled from a powercenter pro. =20 I am able to install to a drive connected to the scsi card, but when I = go to reboot, the system doesn't load the drivers necessary to allow the root partition to mount, and I get a kernel panic during boot. =20 The installer clearly indicates "loading AIC-7xxx" drivers (or something similar) and is able to see, partition and install to the drive. I then restart the computer, set BootX to load the vmlinux-2.4.20-8d kernel, = and specify "/dev/sdb8" as the boot partition (as instructed by the = installer). I have tried checking and unchecking the "force scsi" without success. = When the system tries to boot into linux, I can see the MACE onboard scsi = being recognized, as it enumerates the partitions on /dev/sda, but sdb never = shows up. =20 I am able to install and boot from the puny 1GB drive which I have = attached to the motherboard scsi, but it is not large enough for anything but the most basic install. When this install boots, it doesn't see the scsi = card or drive either. =20 Is there some basic thing I'm not doing? Some other distros seem to use initrd as a ramdisk to load drivers, but it seems YDL does not? Is = there some other way to instruct the installer to install the drivers? Is = there some file I'm missing somewhere? =20 Someone on some other post from a while back said something about not = being able to boot to drives on a scsi card (which could be used if booted = from another drive), but the 2940 is on YDL's list of approved and supported hardware.... =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C323D6.B5E7B2A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
I am = having trouble=20 installing YDL 3 on an 8500 with an adaptec 2940UW card pulled from a=20 powercenter pro.
 
I am = able to install=20 to a drive connected to the scsi card, but when I go to reboot, the = system=20 doesn't load the drivers necessary to allow the root partition to mount, = and I=20 get a kernel panic during boot.
 
The = installer=20 clearly indicates "loading AIC-7xxx" drivers (or something similar) and = is able=20 to see, partition and install to the drive. I then restart the = computer,=20 set BootX to load the vmlinux-2.4.20-8d kernel, and specify = "/dev/sdb8" as=20 the boot partition (as instructed by the installer).  I have tried = checking=20 and unchecking the "force scsi" without success.  When the system = tries to=20 boot into linux, I can see the MACE onboard scsi being recognized, as it = enumerates the partitions on /dev/sda, but sdb never shows=20 up.
 
I am = able to install=20 and boot from the puny 1GB drive which I have attached to the = motherboard=20 scsi, but it is not large enough for anything but the most basic = install. =20 When this install boots, it doesn't see the scsi card or drive=20 either.
 
Is = there some basic=20 thing I'm not doing?  Some other distros seem to use initrd as a = ramdisk to=20 load drivers, but it seems YDL does not?  Is there some other way = to=20 instruct the installer to install the drivers? Is there some file I'm = missing=20 somewhere?
 
Someone on some=20 other post from a while back said something about not being able to boot = to=20 drives on a scsi card (which could be used if booted from another = drive), but=20 the 2940 is on YDL's list of approved and supported=20 hardware....
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C323D6.B5E7B2A0-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 27 03:49:54 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Jordan Parnass) Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 22:49:54 -0400 Subject: scsi card drivers Message-ID: <000601c323fa$aa912160$6501a8c0@uberbox> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C323D9.237F8160 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am having trouble installing YDL 3 on an 8500 with an adaptec 2940UW = card pulled from a powercenter pro. =20 I am able to install to a drive connected to the scsi card, but when I = go to reboot, the system doesn't load the drivers necessary to allow the root partition to mount, and I get a kernel panic during boot. =20 The installer clearly indicates "loading AIC-7xxx" drivers (or something similar) and is able to see, partition and install to the drive. I then restart the computer, set BootX to load the vmlinux-2.4.20-8d kernel, = and specify "/dev/sdb8" as the boot partition (as instructed by the = installer). I have tried checking and unchecking the "force scsi" without success. = When the system tries to boot into linux, I can see the MACE onboard scsi = being recognized, as it enumerates the partitions on /dev/sda, but sdb never = shows up. =20 I am able to install and boot from the puny 1GB drive which I have = attached to the motherboard scsi, but it is not large enough for anything but the most basic install. When this install boots, it doesn't see the scsi = card or drive either. =20 I updated the card firmware to the latest mac version available on the adaptec website. It works fine in os 9. Pdisk, when run in os 9 = correctly identifies and shows the partitions. =20 Is there some basic thing I'm not doing? Some other distros seem to use initrd as a ramdisk to load drivers, but it seems YDL does not? Is = there some other way to instruct the installer to install the drivers? Is = there some driver file I'm missing somewhere? =20 Someone on some other post from a while back said something about not = being able to boot to drives on a scsi card (which could be used if booted = from another drive), but the 2940 is on YDL's list of approved and supported hardware.... =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C323D9.237F8160 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
I am = having trouble=20 installing YDL 3 on an 8500 with an adaptec 2940UW card pulled from a=20 powercenter pro.
 
I am = able to install=20 to a drive connected to the scsi card, but when I go to reboot, the = system=20 doesn't load the drivers necessary to allow the root partition to mount, = and I=20 get a kernel panic during boot.
 
The = installer=20 clearly indicates "loading AIC-7xxx" drivers (or something similar) and = is able=20 to see, partition and install to the drive. I then restart the = computer,=20 set BootX to load the vmlinux-2.4.20-8d kernel, and specify = "/dev/sdb8" as=20 the boot partition (as instructed by the installer).  I have tried = checking=20 and unchecking the "force scsi" without success.  When the system = tries to=20 boot into linux, I can see the MACE onboard scsi being recognized, as it = enumerates the partitions on /dev/sda, but sdb never shows=20 up.
 
I am = able to install=20 and boot from the puny 1GB drive which I have attached to the = motherboard=20 scsi, but it is not large enough for anything but the most basic = install. =20 When this install boots, it doesn't see the scsi card or drive=20 either.
 
I = updated the card=20 firmware to the latest mac version available on the adaptec = website.  It=20 works fine in os 9.  Pdisk, when run in os 9 correctly identifies = and shows=20 the partitions.
 
Is = there some basic=20 thing I'm not doing?  Some other distros seem to use initrd as a = ramdisk to=20 load drivers, but it seems YDL does not?  Is there some other way = to=20 instruct the installer to install the drivers? Is there some = driver file=20 I'm missing somewhere?
 
Someone on some=20 other post from a while back said something about not being able to boot = to=20 drives on a scsi card (which could be used if booted from another = drive), but=20 the 2940 is on YDL's list of approved and supported=20 hardware....
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C323D9.237F8160-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 27 09:08:51 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Suzanne Payne) Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 09:08:51 +0100 Subject: Redhat-config-network Errors?? In-Reply-To: <20030525175600116115.GyazMail.sethmath@mac.com> References: <20030525175600116115.GyazMail.sethmath@mac.com> Message-ID: <580796335.1054026531@beefcake.alcina.org> At the risk of saying "me too"...me too! On a Powerbook G3 (Pismo). I assumed it's something to do with the fact that I have an airport card installed and certainly during the GUI install I could not configure both ports correctly. So I then tried the text install which seems to have configured eth0 correctly, but....I don't get X! Sigh.... Suzanne --On Sunday, May 25, 2003 5:56 pm -0400 Seth Matheson wrote: > Your not alone, I just installed YDL 3 on my 700 Mhz iBook, same > errors. ethernet connections work though, I just can't change / view > any settings. > > ~Seth Matheson > > On Sun, 25 May 2003 17:39:14 -0400, TJ wrote: >> I just installed YDL 3.0 on an iBook bwing that I can't get it to >> install on my 8500 :( >> >> When I try to run this: >> System Stteings>Network I always get a Exception Occurred... >> >> Am I the only the one with this issue... Did it not install properly?? >> >> Any help would be appreciated.. Thank you once again. >> >> Jack From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 27 12:24:20 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Goofus) Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 07:24:20 -0400 Subject: iMac Rev A -- newbie help References: Message-ID: I'm reposting this only because the subject line kinda looked like porn spam the first time it came through...sorry about that. Thanks in advance. ------------------------------------------------------- Hi folks, First of all, I'm a Linux newbie -- and by "newbie" I mean NEWBIE! Think of me as that spiked punch served at the prom where your parents first danced! I'm not going to go into too much detail yet, because like every question I've asked about this iMac since January 2000 I expect the answer to be "you can't do [xxxxxxxxx] because you have an original iMac". If I don't get that response from this I'll post more detail. Mac OS 9 installed just fine, YDL 3.0 installed just fine, Yaboot's loading at startup just fine but it won't send me anywhere. I select "l" for Linux and it freezes at "please wait, loading kernel...", I select "m" for Mac OS and it freezes at "booting MacOS..." Now, I'll tell the stories later about why this is day #15, attempt #13,502 of me trying to get Linux on this machine, but for now...HELP?!?!?! There's a screen that says "some systems may require special commands to be sent to the bootloader..." or something like that -- do I need to put something in there? Specs: iMac, Rev. A (Bondi) 30gb hard drive 233 mhz 96mb RAM Rage IIC (Mach64), 2MB video Rage and Frustration in potential user: uncalculable I'm sure Linux is a wonderful OS, hopefully someday I'll get to see it for myself. ;-) Donald From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 27 12:45:49 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Suzanne Payne) Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 12:45:49 +0100 Subject: iMac Rev A -- newbie help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2147483647.1054039549@beefcake.alcina.org> --On Tuesday, May 27, 2003 7:24 am -0400 Goofus wrote: > Mac OS 9 installed just fine, YDL 3.0 installed just fine, Yaboot's > loading at startup just fine but it won't send me anywhere. I select "l" > for Linux and it freezes at "please wait, loading kernel...", I select > "m" for Mac OS and it freezes at "booting MacOS..." > > Specs: > > iMac, Rev. A (Bondi) > 30gb hard drive > 233 mhz > 96mb RAM > Rage IIC (Mach64), 2MB video > Rage and Frustration in potential user: uncalculable I had this happen to me on a Bondai Blue (Rev B I think it is though!). I put it down to installing OSX/9 and Linux on the wrong partitions. On the 3.0 installation bumf it lists the order of the partitions on which you should install YDL and the various MacOss. I repartitioned, changed the order and it all worked. Of course, I helpfully now can't remember the order! I can tell you, however, from my molrc that the two mac partitions are hda7 (OSX) and hda8 (OS9), so I assume that hda10 is the 1mb yaboot bootstrap loader doobrie which leaves hda11 as my swap and hda12 as the YDL install itself. I think that's it! But I'd check the installation guide for sure! Hope this helps Suzanne From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 27 20:26:37 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Goofus) Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 15:26:37 -0400 Subject: iMac Rev A -- newbie help References: <2147483647.1054039549@beefcake.alcina.org> Message-ID: That does help a little, but not only can I not install OSX on here, I don't have $120 twice a year to keep it up to date anyway. :-) I was told by my Mac guru that the original Rev A Bondi boxes can only support 96mb of RAM, and OSX needs 128. That's fine since I don't like OSX, but I digress... I've tried literally EVERY partitioning scheme known to man, even deciding at one point to just trash the MacOS and install Linux exclusively. Same thing happened, nothing. Now, something interesting happened just last night that I *think* might be one problem, maybe the only one -- during install attempt #13,504 the YDL installer forced itself into text mode. THAT suddenly made me think "gee, you know all this may be being caused by my lack of VRAM" (I only have 2mb), so I made a call this morning and have the 4mb iMac upgrade chip on the way for a mere $13. That *could* solve my problem, and could also explain my boot-freeze and the occassional "input/output" error I see after various installs. Any thoughts? Or did I waste $13? Actually no, I didn't waste $13 either way, this thing really does need more than 2mb of VRAM no matter what it ends up running. ;-) D. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suzanne Payne" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 7:45 AM Subject: Re: iMac Rev A -- newbie help > > > --On Tuesday, May 27, 2003 7:24 am -0400 Goofus > wrote: > > Mac OS 9 installed just fine, YDL 3.0 installed just fine, Yaboot's > > loading at startup just fine but it won't send me anywhere. I select "l" > > for Linux and it freezes at "please wait, loading kernel...", I select > > "m" for Mac OS and it freezes at "booting MacOS..." > > > > Specs: > > > > iMac, Rev. A (Bondi) > > 30gb hard drive > > 233 mhz > > 96mb RAM > > Rage IIC (Mach64), 2MB video > > Rage and Frustration in potential user: uncalculable > > I had this happen to me on a Bondai Blue (Rev B I think it is though!). I > put it down to installing OSX/9 and Linux on the wrong partitions. On the > 3.0 installation bumf it lists the order of the partitions on which you > should install YDL and the various MacOss. I repartitioned, changed the > order and it all worked. Of course, I helpfully now can't remember the > order! I can tell you, however, from my molrc that the two mac partitions > are hda7 (OSX) and hda8 (OS9), so I assume that hda10 is the 1mb yaboot > bootstrap loader doobrie which leaves hda11 as my swap and hda12 as the YDL > install itself. I think that's it! But I'd check the installation guide > for sure! > > Hope this helps > Suzanne From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 27 20:45:20 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (David Purdy) Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 12:45:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: how to change BootX default startup? Message-ID: <20030527194520.34886.qmail@web41107.mail.yahoo.com> Hi All: I have successfully installed and troubleshooted (shot?) both YDL 3 and 2.3... liking them pretty much...only one nagging problem... on the 3.0 installation on my Beige G3/400MHz, when the machine boots up and switches from the happy mac to the BootX panel, the default (bolded) button is the MacOS, not the Linux button. On the 2.3 machine (an older 604e/200MHz PM7600), the opposite is true... the default is set to Linux, so that if you let it sit for 10 seconds or so... it automatically resumes the bootup ...into the desired YDL. Is there a way to set the default to boot into YDL 3.0? As is, if I'm not there during that 10 second startup window, it automatically goes into MacOS, rather than Linux. I've searched resources, and haven't come up with a way to set the default startup to Linux? Help, anybody? Thanks, Dave Purdy Wisconsin __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 27 20:50:25 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Jakob Malm) Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 21:50:25 +0200 Subject: X problems on iMac DV SE Message-ID: <7612714C-907C-11D7-AC72-000A27B4CD2A@dd.chalmers.se> I installed YDL 3 on an iMac DV SE 400 Mhz. The graphic installer couldn't start X, so it switched to text install. The text mode installer seemed to work fine. In the post install I used the default setup, that is ATI Rage 128 video card, 8 MB, iMac screen, 16-bit color, Gnome, graphical login by default. Now, when I start the system up and X seems to start I get a black screen. I can still access the terminal by Ctrl-Alt-F1. Can I set the X environment up by hand? Is there something else that I should do? Thanks, Jakob Malm From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 27 20:53:06 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Andrew McVinnie) Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 13:53:06 -0600 Subject: how to change BootX default startup? In-Reply-To: <20030527194520.34886.qmail@web41107.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: HA! this is an easy one that even my pee-brain can answer! When you get to the BootX screen, right after the happy Mac screen... the BootX window has a button for MacOS and a button for Linux. The button with the double circle around is the one that will be loaded automatically, to change it. do this: Press tab. thats it! but press tab before it gets done counting to ten, and the double circle outline of the button should move from one button to the other, setting the other button as default. Then click it with the mouse to get it to be permanent. Hope that helps Andy McVinnie On Tuesday, May 27, 2003, at 01:45 PM, David Purdy wrote: > Hi All: > > I have successfully installed and troubleshooted > (shot?) both YDL 3 and 2.3... liking them pretty > much...only one nagging problem... on the 3.0 > installation on my Beige G3/400MHz, > > when the machine boots up and switches from the happy > mac to the BootX panel, the default (bolded) button is > the MacOS, not the Linux button. On the 2.3 machine > (an older 604e/200MHz PM7600), the opposite is true... > the default is set to Linux, so that if you let it sit > for 10 seconds or so... it automatically resumes the > bootup ...into the desired YDL. > > Is there a way to set the default to boot into YDL > 3.0? As is, if I'm not there during that 10 second > startup window, it automatically goes into MacOS, > rather than Linux. I've searched resources, and > haven't come up with a way to set the default startup > to Linux? > > Help, anybody? > > Thanks, > > Dave Purdy > > Wisconsin > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > http://search.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 27 20:59:32 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Daniel Koskinen) Date: 27 May 2003 22:59:32 +0300 Subject: X problems on iMac DV SE In-Reply-To: <7612714C-907C-11D7-AC72-000A27B4CD2A@dd.chalmers.se> References: <7612714C-907C-11D7-AC72-000A27B4CD2A@dd.chalmers.se> Message-ID: <1054065572.1373.58.camel@localhost.localdomain> I had the same problem on my iMac DV on first boot. The same thing also happened without fail every time I logged out. Since I've installed YDL 3 again and opted for the "text-login". No problems now. On Tue, 2003-05-27 at 22:50, Jakob Malm wrote: > I installed YDL 3 on an iMac DV SE 400 Mhz. The graphic installer couldn't > start X, so it switched to text install. The text mode installer seemed to > work fine. In the post install I used the default setup, that is ATI Rage > 128 video card, 8 MB, iMac screen, 16-bit color, Gnome, graphical login by > default. Now, when I start the system up and X seems to start I get a black > screen. I can still access the terminal by Ctrl-Alt-F1. Can I set the X environment > up by hand? Is there something else that I should do? > > Thanks, > Jakob Malm > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 27 21:15:12 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (David Purdy) Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 13:15:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: how to change BootX default startup? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030527201512.92286.qmail@web41110.mail.yahoo.com> Thanks, Andrew! I'll give it a try tonight when I get home. ...and if your's is a pea, then my sometimes feels like a pin-head! Regards, Dave Purdy --- Andrew McVinnie wrote: > HA! this is an easy one that even my pee-brain can > answer! > > When you get to the BootX screen, right after the > happy Mac screen... > the BootX window has a button for MacOS and a button > for Linux. > > The button with the double circle around is the one > that will be loaded > automatically, to change it. do this: > > Press tab. > > thats it! but press tab before it gets done > counting to ten, and the > double circle outline of the button should move from > one button to the > other, setting the other button as default. Then > click it with the > mouse to get it to be permanent. > > Hope that helps > Andy McVinnie > > > On Tuesday, May 27, 2003, at 01:45 PM, David Purdy > wrote: > > > Hi All: > > > > I have successfully installed and troubleshooted > > (shot?) both YDL 3 and 2.3... liking them pretty > > much...only one nagging problem... on the 3.0 > > installation on my Beige G3/400MHz, > > > > when the machine boots up and switches from the > happy > > mac to the BootX panel, the default (bolded) > button is > > the MacOS, not the Linux button. On the 2.3 > machine > > (an older 604e/200MHz PM7600), the opposite is > true... > > the default is set to Linux, so that if you let it > sit > > for 10 seconds or so... it automatically resumes > the > > bootup ...into the desired YDL. > > > > Is there a way to set the default to boot into YDL > > 3.0? As is, if I'm not there during that 10 > second > > startup window, it automatically goes into MacOS, > > rather than Linux. I've searched resources, and > > haven't come up with a way to set the default > startup > > to Linux? > > > > Help, anybody? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Dave Purdy > > > > Wisconsin > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > http://search.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > > > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 27 21:36:16 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Angela Kahealani) Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 10:36:16 -1000 Subject: how to change BootX default startup? In-Reply-To: <20030527194520.34886.qmail@web41107.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20030527194520.34886.qmail@web41107.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200305271036.16761.angela@kahealani.com> On Tue, 2003-05-27 09:45, David Purdy wrote: > BootX panel, the default (bolded) button... > the MacOS, not the Linux button. On the 2.3 machine > Is there a way to set the default to boot into YDL > 3.0? The default is part of BootX prefs, stored to disk when you click "save prefs". Which OS Button is highlighted can be changed with the Tab Key... so when it starts counting down, hit the tab key then save prefs. -- Copyright 2003 Angela Kahealani. http://www.kahealani.com/ All Rights Reserved Without Prejudice, UCC 1-207, Non Assumsit, T.D.C. All information and transactions are private between the parties and are non negotiable. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 27 21:59:47 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Varga Balazs) Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 22:59:47 +0200 (CEST) Subject: How to change a few keys in local keyboard layout? (YDL 3.0) Message-ID: Hi, I am writting from Hungary. I use an iBook with YDL 3.0. My problem is the following: There are 2 different hungarian keyboard layouts in YDL, that i can choose from, but unfortunatly they are not good for iBook. I miss some characters, and it is important to use them, since they are part of the hungarian alphabet. What I would like to change: Instead of "0" at the place of "`", i would like to use "=ED" (charactercode: U00ED in unicode, 0xED under ISO-8859-2). I would like to use the capital version with pressing shift On the other hand, it would be usefull to use the "fn" key for using numbers instead of letters. Like "FN+l" for "3" Is there another way besides rewritting the keymap file? Hope so... Sorry for the poor english :-) Balazs Varga vargabp@freemail.hu From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Tue May 27 22:06:10 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Joe Froehlich) Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 17:06:10 -0400 Subject: Install from HD? Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C32472.4514D250 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is it possible to install YD3 from a hard drive or partition instead of from the CD? Joe ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C32472.4514D250 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C32472.4514D250-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 28 02:45:10 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Geno Endicott) Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 18:45:10 -0700 Subject: wireless card for YDL Message-ID: <1054086310.3ed414a60bec4@64.91.235.246> I have a Orinoco wireless silver card. Has anyone used one with YDL 2.3 or 3.0? how does it work? I can't find a driver online, any ideas? geno. http://www.barbaloot.com AIM: BARBALUT "when you die," says a dark-haired woman at the next table, "they can make you into diamonds now. It's scientific. That's how I want to be remembered. I want to shine." -neil gaiman From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 28 03:34:14 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Michael J. E. Swift) Date: 27 May 2003 22:34:14 EDT Subject: nVidia Help Message-ID: <12730782@newdancer.Dartmouth.EDU> Hi all, I've been trying for two weeks now to configure the X server = correctly for my GeForce 2 MX card with Apple 15 inch LCD. The = best I've been able to do is get a subsection of my screen working = (640x480 centered in the screen). I've looked through a lot of the = old postings and couldn't find a solution there. I was wondering = if this problem had been resolved or not. Any help would be = appreciated. Michael Swift From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 28 03:36:12 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Netzer Antonio) Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 21:36:12 -0500 Subject: linux equivalent for most common os x apps In-Reply-To: <1054086310.3ed414a60bec4@64.91.235.246> Message-ID: <25C7E672-90B5-11D7-91D5-0003930923CE@softhome.net> i'm running 2.3, haven't done the upgrade to 3.0 yet i'm using the kde gui. i was wondering what your favorites apps, or the ones that most closely resemble these other apps music player:iTunes ...... instant messenger: Fire (allows me to connect to several accounts within one app) browser: I use camino and safari is there a caller id app for linux??? these are the apps the people using the computer use mostly..... i'll try to upgrade my 2.3 to 3.0 over the weekend, maybe there are better programs with it. also, is there a good web page, to find linux software? i've tried download.com thanks Netz From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 28 06:12:26 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Oscar G. Maldonado) Date: 28 May 2003 00:12:26 -0500 Subject: Sirius install problem... In-Reply-To: <20030527180106.503981FAF1@newhope.terraplex.com> References: <20030527180106.503981FAF1@newhope.terraplex.com> Message-ID: <1054098745.1112.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi everybody... I just reformated my Imac DV 400 (indigo) I was running YDL 2.3 just fine, but now I get some kind of trouble and I need some assistance here... First, the yaboot does not recognize mi OS 9 and OS X partitions but I can boot to linux without problems, I need some hint to get the "m" and "x" at the yaboot prompt. Second, my X configuration does not work either but Iget kind of lost because I did not find the Xconfigurator program to try to get my X system to work. So I will appreciate any help and thanks in advance... From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 28 06:27:15 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Chris Ruzin) Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 00:27:15 -0500 Subject: linux equivalent for most common os x apps In-Reply-To: <25C7E672-90B5-11D7-91D5-0003930923CE@softhome.net> Message-ID: On 5/27/03 9:36 PM, "Netzer Antonio" wrote: > i'm running 2.3, haven't done the upgrade to 3.0 yet > i'm using the kde gui. > > i was wondering what your favorites apps, or the ones that most closely > resemble these other apps > > music player:iTunes ...... > instant messenger: Fire (allows me to connect to several accounts > within one app) > browser: I use camino and safari > is there a caller id app for linux??? > these are the apps the people using the computer use mostly..... > > i'll try to upgrade my 2.3 to 3.0 over the weekend, maybe there are > better programs with it. > > > also, is there a good web page, to find linux software? > i've tried download.com > > thanks > > Netz > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie Itunes - use XMMS. It not as smooth as iTunes, but it has most of the functionality. Browser - Galeon or Firebird are both good. Fire - GAIM, which is better than Fire in my opinion. Don't know about a caller ID app. Go to tucows.com for linux stuff. Also, freshmeat.com is good. -- Chris Ruzin www.chrisruzin.net From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 28 07:23:19 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Christopher Baskind) Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 01:23:19 -0500 Subject: linux equivalent for most common os x apps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200305280123.19471.mylists@paperfrog.com> On Wednesday 28 May 2003 00:27, Chris Ruzin wrote: > Browser - Galeon or Firebird are both good. You know, Konqueror is pretty darn good, too. Faster than just about anything, and it uses the KHTML rendering engine familiar to users of Safari. Plus, of course, it's the Swiss Army Knife of KDE (with its many file management features and so on). > Fire - GAIM, which is better than Fire in my opinion. You'll get no argument from me. What a terrific IM client. XMMS is a decent equivalent of iTunes. The "G-Force" pluging is quite similar to iTunes' visualization, too. kit -- PaperFrog.com Words, free of charge. http://paperfrog.com From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 28 07:52:51 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Charles Trois) Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 08:52:51 +0200 Subject: nVidia Help Message-ID: Hello Michael, As I recounted in a recent posting, I had exactly the same problem and was able to solve it by just running Xautoconfig. Perhaps this will help you. Charles. Original message: Message: 11 Date: 27 May 2003 22:34:14 EDT From: Michael.J.E.Swift@Dartmouth.EDU (Michael J. E. Swift) Subject: nVidia Help To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Hi all, I've been trying for two weeks now to configure the X server = correctly for my GeForce 2 MX card with Apple 15 inch LCD. The = best I've been able to do is get a subsection of my screen working = (640x480 centered in the screen). I've looked through a lot of the = old postings and couldn't find a solution there. I was wondering = if this problem had been resolved or not. Any help would be = appreciated. Michael Swift From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 28 09:56:25 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Jason Stevens) Date: 28 May 2003 11:56:25 +0300 Subject: linux equivalent for most common os x apps In-Reply-To: <25C7E672-90B5-11D7-91D5-0003930923CE@softhome.net> References: <25C7E672-90B5-11D7-91D5-0003930923CE@softhome.net> Message-ID: <1054112184.31211.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> Netz: In YDL 3.0, if you want to install a lot of good extra programs, you'll get better results if you customize the package installation and choose the "Everything" option. Sure, it's about a 5GB install, but if you have room for it, it's worth it. If you don't install all the packages, you'll run into problems trying to install multimedia packages. There are no good sound or video applications included with YDL 3.0, at least in my opinion. You'll need to get them later. The best player for DVDs and CD audio is Xine. There are some good chat programs included with the YDL installation, such as Gaim. I believe it's a multi-protocol client like Fire. With the full install of YDL, you'll get the Galeon web browser for the Gnome environment. It is perhaps the most like Camino and Safari. To add any extra applications, the easiest way to do so is to log in as root and open a text editor. Open the file /etc/apt/sources.list and add the following to the end of the file: # freshrpms rpm http://ayo.freshrpms.net yellowdog/3.0/ppc freshrpms rpm-src http://ayo.freshrpms.net yellowdog/3.0/ppc freshrpms Save the file. Then open a terminal and type the following: apt-get update && apt-get install synaptic -f This will install a very amazing front-end tool for managing RPMs. Once you have installed the Synaptic package, you can log out and log back in as user. Then go to System Settings > Synaptic. All the packages will be nicely grouped into categories with detailed descriptions. Find Xine in the list and click the Install button, then the Proceed button--within a couple of minutes you'll have an application that puts iTunes to shame (you'll still need to use another application like Grip or KAudioCreator to rip or encode CD audio). XMMS, which is included with YDL, is probably the best choice for playing back MP3's. There is even an AAC plug-in available for it in case you've converted all your songs using iTunes 4. Jason On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 05:36, Netzer Antonio wrote: > i'm running 2.3, haven't done the upgrade to 3.0 yet > i'm using the kde gui. > > i was wondering what your favorites apps, or the ones that most closely > resemble these other apps > > music player:iTunes ...... > instant messenger: Fire (allows me to connect to several accounts > within one app) > browser: I use camino and safari > is there a caller id app for linux??? > these are the apps the people using the computer use mostly..... > > i'll try to upgrade my 2.3 to 3.0 over the weekend, maybe there are > better programs with it. > > > also, is there a good web page, to find linux software? > i've tried download.com > > thanks > > Netz > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 28 09:57:47 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Suzanne Payne) Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 09:57:47 +0100 Subject: iMac Rev A -- newbie help In-Reply-To: References: <2147483647.1054039549@beefcake.alcina.org> Message-ID: <2147483647.1054115867@beefcake.alcina.org> --On Tuesday, May 27, 2003 3:26 pm -0400 Goofus =20 wrote: > That does help a little, but not only can I not install OSX on here, I > don't have $120 twice a year to keep it up to date anyway. :-) I > was told by my Mac guru that the original Rev A Bondi boxes can only > support 96mb of RAM, and OSX needs 128. That's fine since I don't like > OSX, but I digress... The max is 256Mb according to www.everymac.com. I have 160Mb in my Rev B.=20 A lot of these "the machine can only take blah ram" things are because at=20 the time of release the biggest chips you could put into your two slots=20 were only 32Mb or 64Mb, whereas now they sell 128Mb or 256Mb chips that fit = in the machine and the machine can address every last byte of them! Not=20 always mind, the LCII will only ever see 10Mb no matter how much you put=20 in...but I digress... > I've tried literally EVERY partitioning scheme known to man, even = deciding > at one point to just trash the MacOS and install Linux exclusively. Same > thing happened, nothing. I've had just YDL (using the original 4 gig drive) and YDL with 2 extra=20 partitions for the various macos not to boot into macos but to use them=20 under mol. The machine only actually boots into YDL. > Any thoughts? Or did I waste $13? Actually no, I didn't waste $13 = either > way, this thing really does need more than 2mb of VRAM no matter what it > ends up running. ;-) No, extra vram is always useful. The Rev B shipped with 6Mb (and has a=20 Rage Pro card as opposed to a Rage IIc which is in the Rev A). Ok...not wishing to tell you what you already know, I guess the easiest is=20 to start with just YDL. So..boot off a macos CD and format the drive.=20 Make the whole of it "empty space" as opposed to some sort of hfs=20 partitioning (set the single partition to 0Mb). Then boot off YDL disc=20 one. You might try the text install instead, it's very easy and is less=20 demanding of the vram, but that's up to you. Select all the bits and=20 pieces you want until you get to partitioning. You should already have I=20 think 6 partitions with various apple names, and a lot of "free space".=20 Don't delete the apple partitions already there, click on the free space=20 and create a 1mb bootstrap partition, a 192mb swap space and fill the rest=20 of the drive with a single ext3 partition with the mount point of / Then=20 sit and feed it CDs, make a cup of coffee, walk the dog, answer a few=20 questions whilst it tries to set up X, personally I'd set it to have a text = login not a graphical login (you type "startx" once you're logged in to=20 start X Windows), reboot, and hopefully.....fingers crossed...voil=E0! Hope this helps! I have to say the install on my Rev B Bondi Blue iMac has = been far less problematic than on my Pismo! Suzanne From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 28 10:10:07 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com) Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 10:10:07 +0100 Subject: Post-install on a Powerbook 3400 Message-ID: SGkgdGhlcmUhDQogDQpJJ20gdHJ5aW5nIHRvIGNvbm5lY3QgdG8gdGhlIGludGVybmV0IHdpdGgg bXkgUEIgMzQwMCdzIFBDTUNJQSBtb2RlbSB3aXRoIFlETCAzLjAgIEknbSBoYXZpbmcgbm8gbHVj ay4NCiANCldoYXQgY2FuIEkgZG8/DQogDQpUaGFuayB5b3UhDQogDQogDQo= From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 28 10:21:44 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Jason Stevens) Date: 28 May 2003 12:21:44 +0300 Subject: Post-install on a Powerbook 3400 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1054113703.31233.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> What kind of modem is it? On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 12:10, linuxppc_user@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: > Hi there! > > I'm trying to connect to the internet with my PB 3400's PCMCIA modem with YDL 3.0 I'm having no luck. > > What can I do? > > Thank you! > > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 28 11:18:57 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Goofus) Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 06:18:57 -0400 Subject: iMac Rev A -- newbie help References: <2147483647.1054039549@beefcake.alcina.org> <2147483647.1054115867@beefcake.alcina.org> Message-ID: The problem with that is my (original) iMac only has a system bus speed of 66mhz, and I've been unable (after two years) to find anything greater than 96mb that can run on that -- newer chips are 100mhz and 133mhz. In fact, to add insult to injury, I have the original 32mb chip here in my hand that came out of this piece of refuse when I got the new 96mb one -- I could *technically* have 128mb of RAM as I type this, but with only one slot for RAM there's nowhere to stick it. Again, I don't mean that dirty. :-) D. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suzanne Payne" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 4:57 AM Subject: Re: iMac Rev A -- newbie help The max is 256Mb according to www.everymac.com. I have 160Mb in my Rev B. A lot of these "the machine can only take blah ram" things are because at the time of release the biggest chips you could put into your two slots were only 32Mb or 64Mb, whereas now they sell 128Mb or 256Mb chips that fit in the machine and the machine can address every last byte of them! From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 28 12:11:05 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Goofus) Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 07:11:05 -0400 Subject: iMac Rev A -- newbie help References: <2147483647.1054039549@beefcake.alcina.org> <2147483647.1054115867@beefcake.alcina.org> Message-ID: OK, tried it, same result -- only this time it told me I only had 512k of VRAM instead of the 2048k (accurate) number. Still froze at "loading kernel...please wait" just like 15,000 previous attempts. I'm putting this project on hold until I get that 4mb VRAM upgrade in the mail, hopefully by Friday. After that, I'll be abandoning this project altogether, pulling the RAM chips and 30gb hard drive and sticking this waste of plastic up on eBay for $20. Apple screwed long-time users like me with the switch to a Unix-based OS, leaving users like me with $1300 iMac boxes that are nothing more than useless four years later (with one year of payments still left to go I might add). Now it's looking like I can't even run Linux on this overpriced heater. My venture into the Mac world back in '93 was mostly to do my small part to fight the evil that is Microsoft, plus the Mac environment took me less than 20 minutes to learn and I couldn't get enough of it. Now that I'm hooked Apple wants nothing more than to upgrade their new OS every six months and render previous versions invalid and (also) unusable. I've had enough and I'm done fighting with them. My Windows XP machine sitting next to me has done everything I need it to do and 300% more (built it myself by the way), so I'll just stick with that for now -- if I decide to re-enter the Linux world I'll take that 30gb hard drive, shove it in here, and try a dual-boot Windows/Linux system. This iMac has cost me to date $1825 (including RAM upgrades, new hard drive, and a compatible printer) plus almost three weeks of non-stop Linux battles -- this XP machine I'm running @ 800mhz...? $410 (including monitor, hard drive addition, 128mb RAM, keyboard, mouse, and video capture card). It even ran MacOS9 for a month before I realized it was useless on here. I'm starting to babble, so I'll shut up for now. Suzanne -- THANK YOU!!!! Even though your tip didn't help (yet), you managed to somehow find an option I had not tried -- you get HUGE thanks (and congratulations) for that! Any more tips are certainly welcomed! Thanks again! D. ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suzanne Payne" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 4:57 AM Subject: Re: iMac Rev A -- newbie help Ok...not wishing to tell you what you already know, I guess the easiest is to start with just YDL. So..boot off a macos CD and format the drive. Make the whole of it "empty space" as opposed to some sort of hfs partitioning (set the single partition to 0Mb). Then boot off YDL disc one. You might try the text install instead, it's very easy and is less demanding of the vram, but that's up to you. Select all the bits and pieces you want until you get to partitioning. You should already have I think 6 partitions with various apple names, and a lot of "free space". Don't delete the apple partitions already there, click on the free space and create a 1mb bootstrap partition, a 192mb swap space and fill the rest of the drive with a single ext3 partition with the mount point of / Then sit and feed it CDs, make a cup of coffee, walk the dog, answer a few questions whilst it tries to set up X, personally I'd set it to have a text login not a graphical login (you type "startx" once you're logged in to start X Windows), reboot, and hopefully.....fingers crossed...voilā! Hope this helps! I have to say the install on my Rev B Bondi Blue iMac has been far less problematic than on my Pismo! From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 28 13:24:57 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Joe Froehlich) Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 08:24:57 -0400 Subject: Sirius install problem... In-Reply-To: <1054098745.1112.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: Try this... Enter pdisk --list to find the parition numbers on your drive. Then, open /etc/yaboot.conf in a text editor and make sure the operating system references point to the appropriate partitions. Joe -----Original Message----- From: yellowdog-newbie-admin@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com [mailto:yellowdog-newbie-admin@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com]On Behalf Of Oscar G. Maldonado Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 1:12 AM To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Subject: Re: Sirius install problem... Hi everybody... I just reformated my Imac DV 400 (indigo) I was running YDL 2.3 just fine, but now I get some kind of trouble and I need some assistance here... First, the yaboot does not recognize mi OS 9 and OS X partitions but I can boot to linux without problems, I need some hint to get the "m" and "x" at the yaboot prompt. Second, my X configuration does not work either but Iget kind of lost because I did not find the Xconfigurator program to try to get my X system to work. 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(YDL 3.0) Message-ID: <000501c32520$1b774b90$0400a8c0@Hades> Hi, I am writting from Hungary. I use an iBook with YDL 3.0. My problem is the following: There are 2 different hungarian keyboard layouts in YDL, that i can choose from, but unfortunatly they are not good for iBook. I miss some characters, and it is important to use them, since they are part of the hungarian alphabet. What I would like to change: Instead of "0" at the place of "`", I would like to use "í" (charactercode: U00ED in unicode, 0xED under ISO-8859-2). I would like to use the capital version with pressing "shift" On the other hand, it would be usefull to use the "fn" key for using numbers instead of letters. Like "FN+l" for "3" Is there another way besides rewritting the keymap file? Hope so... Sorry for the poor english :-) Balazs Varga ydl@freemail.hu From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 28 16:46:31 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Andrew McVinnie) Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 09:46:31 -0600 Subject: iMac Rev A -- newbie help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8D4F49A5-9123-11D7-B074-000393DF0184@mac.com> OK Goofus, You can put any ram you want in you iMac... Yes your iMac has a 66mhz bus, and yes, the ram it originally came with is 66mhz, but you can buy and use 100, 133 mhz chips. Your mother board will never know the difference. The faster ram will just run at a slower speed of your mother board. Go buy two 128 chips and put one in each memory slot of your iMac. It will work i promise. 256 is the max your iMac can take though. There are 2 slots on the iMac. One on top and one underneath the daughter card. I'm sure you are familiar with the upper one, but to get to the lower one, you have to pop the daughter board off the mother board. The second slot is in the same place as the first, just on the bottom. I have about 12 original iMac all running Mac OS X in my office. They have all been upgrade like this. Andrew McVinnie On Wednesday, May 28, 2003, at 04:18 AM, Goofus wrote: > The problem with that is my (original) iMac only has a system bus > speed of > 66mhz, and I've been unable (after two years) to find anything greater > than > 96mb that can run on that -- newer chips are 100mhz and 133mhz. > > In fact, to add insult to injury, I have the original 32mb chip here > in my > hand that came out of this piece of refuse when I got the new 96mb one > -- I > could *technically* have 128mb of RAM as I type this, but with only > one slot > for RAM there's nowhere to stick it. > > Again, I don't mean that dirty. :-) > > D. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Suzanne Payne" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 4:57 AM > Subject: Re: iMac Rev A -- newbie help > > The max is 256Mb according to www.everymac.com. I have 160Mb in my > Rev B. > A lot of these "the machine can only take blah ram" things are > because at > the time of release the biggest chips you could put into your two slots > were only 32Mb or 64Mb, whereas now they sell 128Mb or 256Mb chips > that fit > in the machine and the machine can address every last byte of them! > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 28 20:45:35 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Jakob Malm) Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 21:45:35 +0200 Subject: X problems on iMac DV SE In-Reply-To: <20030528050803.ACD831FAED@newhope.terraplex.com> Message-ID: Daniel, are you able to start X manually when you have logged in at the console? I reinstalled and selected "text-login", but I still can't get X started when I have logged in. Did you have to change any settings for XFree86? Should I use startx to start the X-server? /Jakob > Daniel Koskinen wrote: > > I had the same problem on my iMac DV on first boot. The same thing also > happened without fail every time I logged out. Since I've installed YDL > 3 again and opted for the "text-login". No problems now. > > On Tue, 2003-05-27 at 22:50, Jakob Malm wrote: >> I installed YDL 3 on an iMac DV SE 400 Mhz. The graphic installer couldn' >> t >> start X, so it switched to text install. The text mode installer seemed >> to >> work fine. In the post install I used the default setup, that is ATI Rage >> 128 video card, 8 MB, iMac screen, 16-bit color, Gnome, graphical login >> by >> default. Now, when I start the system up and X seems to start I get a black >> screen. I can still access the terminal by Ctrl-Alt-F1. Can I set the X >> environment >> up by hand? Is there something else that I should do? >> >> Thanks, >> Jakob Malm >> >> _______________________________________________ >> yellowdog-newbie mailing list >> yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >> http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 28 21:05:16 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Daniel Koskinen) Date: 28 May 2003 23:05:16 +0300 Subject: X problems on iMac DV SE In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1054152315.30327.3.camel@user-46.catv.tpo.fi> Yes, startx works fine, and I didn't need to change any settings. I don't know whether it is necessary, but the first time I logged in as root and started x as root. I then logged out again and logged in as myself and so on. On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 22:45, Jakob Malm wrote: > Daniel, are you able to start X manually when you have logged in at the console? > I reinstalled and selected "text-login", but I still can't get X started > when I have logged in. Did you have to change any settings for XFree86? Should > I use startx to start the X-server? > > /Jakob-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 28 21:09:23 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Michael J. E. Swift) Date: 28 May 2003 16:09:23 EDT Subject: MOL Message-ID: <12779083@newdancer.Dartmouth.EDU> From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 28 21:10:56 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Michael J. E. Swift) Date: 28 May 2003 16:10:56 EDT Subject: MOL Message-ID: <12779210@newdancer.Dartmouth.EDU> Hi, Is there a way to force the use of the console mode? It seems to always choose the X window from the basic install. Thanks. Michael Swift From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 28 22:48:04 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com) Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 22:48:04 +0100 Subject: linux equivalent for most common os x apps Message-ID: <200305282248.04693.samtygier@yahoo.co.uk> i would suggest trying yammi as an itunes replacement. it lets you browse= you=20 music in a similar way to itunes and does playlists. it works as a front = end=20 to xmms. it also has a nice music queue thingy, so you can queue songs to= be=20 played. sam From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Wed May 28 23:58:48 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Oscar G. Maldonado) Date: 28 May 2003 17:58:48 -0500 Subject: Big problems after install 3.0... In-Reply-To: <20030528180105.ECA091FB2A@newhope.terraplex.com> References: <20030528180105.ECA091FB2A@newhope.terraplex.com> Message-ID: <1054162726.14294.38.camel@localhost.localdomain> I just installed YDL 3.0 on my Imac DV indigo (400 Mhz/DVD/256 RAM/80 Gb HD), the install went just fine, but I found a couple issues that don't let me use my mac. Fist, yaboot didn't include the appropiate entries for mi macos and osx partitions. I need this entries because sometimes I need to reboot to macos's and mol isn't always the rigth solution. Second, I just can't figure out how to get my X server working, so I'll really appreciate if some one can share with me the XF86Config file to see how to setup my config file to get my Desktop back Thanks in advance for any help... From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 29 00:01:28 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Andrew McVinnie) Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 17:01:28 -0600 Subject: Big problems after install 3.0... In-Reply-To: <1054162726.14294.38.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <507F1ED2-9160-11D7-B61C-000393DF0184@mac.com> the easiest way to get into Mac OS is hold down OPTION while starting up iMac. This will give you a list of all bootable partitions. Simply choose OS X or OS 9 or Linix. Yaboot did the same thing to me after installing. Andrew McVinnie On Wednesday, May 28, 2003, at 04:58 PM, Oscar G. Maldonado wrote: > I just installed YDL 3.0 on my Imac DV indigo (400 Mhz/DVD/256 RAM/80 > Gb HD), the install went just fine, but I found a couple issues that > don't let me use my mac. > > Fist, yaboot didn't include the appropiate entries for mi macos and > osx partitions. I need this entries because sometimes I need to reboot > to macos's and mol isn't always the rigth solution. > > Second, I just can't figure out how to get my X server working, so > I'll really appreciate if some one can share with me the XF86Config > file to see how to setup my config file to get my Desktop back > > Thanks in advance for any help... > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 29 01:14:21 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Michael J. E. Swift) Date: 28 May 2003 20:14:21 EDT Subject: Kernel Compiling Message-ID: <12792832@newdancer.Dartmouth.EDU> From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 29 01:17:24 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Michael J. E. Swift) Date: 28 May 2003 20:17:24 EDT Subject: Kernel Compiling Message-ID: <12792970@newdancer.Dartmouth.EDU> Hi, I'm trying to enable video4linux and firewire support on my machine here, but when i go to build the kernel, it crashes. The following is the last few lines (where it broke), so if anyone could give me some pointers, I would appreciate it. I'm working with 2.4.20-8d from the install cd. make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-8d/arch/ppc/platforms' make all_targets make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-8d/arch/ppc/platforms' gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-8d/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -fomit-frame-pointer -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-8d/arch/ppc -fsigned-char -msoft-float -pipe -ffixed-r2 -Wno-uninitialized -mmultiple -mstring -nostdinc -iwithprefix include -DKBUILD_BASENAME=pmac_pic -c -o pmac_pic.o pmac_pic.c gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-8d/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -fomit-frame-pointer -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-8d/arch/ppc -fsigned-char -msoft-float -pipe -ffixed-r2 -Wno-uninitialized -mmultiple -mstring -nostdinc -iwithprefix include -DKBUILD_BASENAME=pmac_setup -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-8d/drivers/scsi -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-8d/fs/partitions -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-8d/arch/ppc/mm -c -o pmac_setup.o pmac_setup.c pmac_setup.c:675:44: macro "set_task_state" requires 2 arguments, but only 1 given pmac_setup.c: In function `pmac_discover_root': pmac_setup.c:675: `set_task_state' undeclared (first use in this function) pmac_setup.c:675: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once pmac_setup.c:675: for each function it appears in.) make[2]: *** [pmac_setup.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-8d/arch/ppc/platforms' make[1]: *** [first_rule] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.20-8d/arch/ppc/platforms' make: *** [_dir_arch/ppc/platforms] Error 2 From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 29 06:25:30 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com) Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 22:25:30 -0700 Subject: Video problems on a Wallstreet Message-ID: I could not find where you put the video information they list on the website while doing the install. Because of this my screen is split up into four. Basically the install went the same way. To the left is a partial screen which shows the location, part of edit, view and go and then that is it. At the bottom of the screen is another partial screen. I want the window to be the full screen. I have changed the monitor to what I have, but still no luck. Please help as right now YDL 3 is unusable. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 29 07:11:53 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Goofus) Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 02:11:53 -0400 Subject: iMac Rev A -- newbie help References: <8D4F49A5-9123-11D7-B074-000393DF0184@mac.com> Message-ID: OK, I received and installed the 4mb VRAM chip today and YDL still won't install correctly -- this time one of the error messages I get is "could not set new controlling tty", whatever that is. The install proceeds as before (text only) but two hours later I'm just now able to boot into Mac OS 9 after several OS9 initializations/installs and zapping the PRAM 300 times. Yaboot didn't even show itself this go-round. This coming Saturday will mark a full three weeks I've spent trying to get Linux on here (YDL, Mandrake, Debian, etc., etc.), and at a rate of five full hours per night I'm more than done with this project. It's good to know that I can in fact have 256mb of RAM in here, and good to know that (in theory) I can run OSX as well -- I don't have the funds or interest in pursuing either of those avenues when getting Linux on here was my original (and only) goal. Thanks everyone for your help, it is sincerely appreciated despite my ultimate defeat. Donald :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew McVinnie" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 11:46 AM Subject: Re: iMac Rev A -- newbie help > OK Goofus, > > You can put any ram you want in you iMac... Yes your iMac has a 66mhz > bus, and yes, the ram it originally came with is 66mhz, but you can buy > and use 100, 133 mhz chips. Your mother board will never know the > difference. The faster ram will just run at a slower speed of your > mother board. Go buy two 128 chips and put one in each memory slot of > your iMac. It will work i promise. 256 is the max your iMac can take > though. > > There are 2 slots on the iMac. One on top and one underneath the > daughter card. I'm sure you are familiar with the upper one, but to get > to the lower one, you have to pop the daughter board off the mother > board. The second slot is in the same place as the first, just on the > bottom. > > I have about 12 original iMac all running Mac OS X in my office. They > have all been upgrade like this. > > Andrew McVinnie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 29 14:14:05 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com) Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 06:14:05 -0700 Subject: Never Mind Message-ID: <6C8F3A62-91D7-11D7-802F-0005024794B2@atsecure.net> I figured out my video problem with my Wallstreet. I now realize what I was supposed to do. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 29 19:22:43 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (John Dennis) Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 11:22:43 -0700 Subject: Screen resolution Message-ID: <200305291122.AA59179098@atsecure.net> I would like to be able to change my screen from 640X480 and have it saved. I have tried different things, but it reverts back to this setting. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 29 21:10:34 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (David Purdy) Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 13:10:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Screen resolution In-Reply-To: <200305291122.AA59179098@atsecure.net> Message-ID: <20030529201034.95303.qmail@web41101.mail.yahoo.com> Hi John: What kind of monitor are you using? I don't know if this will help, but I had a problem when I installed YDL 3.0 on my G3, coupled with an older (ancient!) Apple Color Monitor (originally from an old LCIII) - which functions only at 640 by 480. The install went just fine, but when I rebooted, the resolution was set to 800 by 600, resulting in a stretched, difficult to read image. I tried changing the settings using the monitor settings panel, and I got nowhere - the screen settings would not "save" or "take hold". I tried using all of the built in configurator programs, too. They all failed, leaving me back to the barely usable 800 x 600. It seemed to me as though some part of the auto-sensing function of the install program or autoconfiguration program did not work correctly, resulting in a configuration file that had faulty settings. I read over the HowTos - one in particular gave me some great ideas. and this is how I fixed my situation... see... http://yellowdoglinux.com/support/solutions/ydl_2.3/rage.shtml . Read the section where he talks about fine tuning the video settings. I researched (on the web) my monitor to find its settings.... horizontal refresh, vertical refresh and the resolution that I wanted. If you have an Apple monitor, then Gamba's OS site is great. see http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/vid-mon-matrix.html ,for instance. I went to a console shell, su'ed to login as root, pico-edited the file /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 {see caution comment below} so that the ranges listed in this configuration file were wide enough for my monitor's values to fall within. I saved it, rebooted and voila, no more monitor-resolution weirdness. You can read through the config file to search for the correct place where the monitor's values/ranges on vertical & horizontal refresh, and resolution are shown. I used pico to edit the file, while the writer of the HowTo used vi. Guess you could use the emacs editor, too. ***Caution:{I ***think*** it was the file ending in Config-4 ,...,there were two other similar configuration files in the same directory - one I seem to remember as a 'backup' settings file. It could have been one ending in simple Config. Also, I am using boht 2.3 and 3.0...there may have been a slight difference in the location and naming of the configuruation file. You can use Konqueror to browse the /etc/ directory, and peek around in there. XXXXXXXX!!!!! You should read other HowTos to see how to drop out of the X window system, so that if experimentation doesn't work out on the first try, you can still work in full-screen console mode. I'm not at home right now, so I can't check the exact specifics for you.} It worked for me and the writer of the HowTo, maybe it will work for you. Good Luck, and let me know if it works... Dave Purdy Wisconsin --- John Dennis wrote: > I would like to be able to change my screen from > 640X480 and have it saved. I have tried different > things, but it reverts back to this setting. > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 29 21:56:26 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Longman, Bill) Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 13:56:26 -0700 Subject: Recover disk partitions on a 3400 Message-ID: I have a new (ha!) 3400 and upon inspection, it looks like all partitions have been deleted from the drive. What would be the solution to get the drive reformatted/partitioned so YDL can be loaded? Bill From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 29 22:13:22 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com) Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 16:13:22 -0500 Subject: YD3.0 Wireless Inoperative Message-ID: <200305292113.h4TLDM3s002194@web6.bluedomino.net> I have just installed YD3.0 on a new iBook 800MHz 12 laptop. It is dual boot, 10G for OS X and 17G for YD. Both OS's are running just fine. The installs were simple. However, wireless is dead. I went to this machine because I could not get wireless with WEP to work on my Gateway Solo with RH or SuSE and reports were good on YD. Looks like I may still be stuck (hope not). During boot, eth0 comes up fine if connected to the LAN (wire). eth1 fails. I'm ASSUMMING that the airport card is eth1. The Redhat network config utility fails on line 137 with a message that indicates the problem is probably a bug. I checked out eth1 with iwconfig and found that it was, indeed, set up for wireless, but with no config info. I entered the essd and key with iwconfig. That now checks out OK. Still won't boot and run. Anyone have any thoughts? Anyone running YD3.0 on a new iBook? George --- Msg sent via WebMail@litenverden.com - http://mail.litenverden.com/ From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 29 22:50:59 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Andrew McVinnie) Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 15:50:59 -0600 Subject: Recover disk partitions on a 3400 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Boot from an OS 8.6 or OS 9.x cd and repartition the hard drive leaving the partition as Unallocated. Andy On Thursday, May 29, 2003, at 02:56 PM, Longman, Bill wrote: > I have a new (ha!) 3400 and upon inspection, it looks like all > partitions > have been deleted from the drive. What would be the solution to get the > drive reformatted/partitioned so YDL can be loaded? > > Bill > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 29 22:50:08 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Andrew McVinnie) Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 15:50:08 -0600 Subject: YD3.0 Wireless Inoperative In-Reply-To: <200305292113.h4TLDM3s002194@web6.bluedomino.net> Message-ID: <840C74A2-921F-11D7-BD06-000393DF0184@mac.com> The set up HOW TO on YDL web site for YDL 2.3 still works for YDL 3. HOWEVER if you have airport extreme card, you are screwed. YDL does not have drivers for the Extreme card yet. Nothing I have tried will get it to work with mt 12" power book Someday, maybe YDL will come with a complete feature set. If it doesnt support Extreme, then it doesnt support a 12" PB Andy On Thursday, May 29, 2003, at 03:13 PM, wrote: > I have just installed YD3.0 on a new iBook 800MHz 12 laptop. It is > dual boot, > 10G for OS X and 17G for YD. Both OS's are running just fine. The > installs were > simple. > > However, wireless is dead. I went to this machine because I could not > get > wireless with WEP to work on my Gateway Solo with RH or SuSE and > reports were > good on YD. Looks like I may still be stuck (hope not). > > During boot, eth0 comes up fine if connected to the LAN (wire). eth1 > fails. I'm > ASSUMMING that the airport card is eth1. The Redhat network config > utility fails > on line 137 with a message that indicates the problem is probably a > bug. I > checked out eth1 with iwconfig and found that it was, indeed, set up > for > wireless, but with no config info. I entered the essd and key with > iwconfig. > That now checks out OK. Still won't boot and run. > > Anyone have any thoughts? Anyone running YD3.0 on a new iBook? > > George > > > --- Msg sent via WebMail@litenverden.com - http://mail.litenverden.com/ > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 29 23:07:06 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (YD) Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 18:07:06 -0400 Subject: YD3.0 Wireless Inoperative References: <840C74A2-921F-11D7-BD06-000393DF0184@mac.com> Message-ID: <000a01c3262e$a5b3a1f0$6900a8c0@Harry> Great! I'll give this a whirl. I do not have an extreme card. If I read you correctly, you're saying even the how to won't help me with my 12 inch iBook? George ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew McVinnie" To: Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 5:50 PM Subject: Re: YD3.0 Wireless Inoperative > The set up HOW TO on YDL web site for YDL 2.3 still works for YDL 3. > HOWEVER if you have airport extreme card, you are screwed. YDL does not > have drivers for the Extreme card yet. Nothing I have tried will get it > to work with mt 12" power book > > Someday, maybe YDL will come with a complete feature set. If it doesnt > support Extreme, then it doesnt support a 12" PB > > Andy > > On Thursday, May 29, 2003, at 03:13 PM, wrote: > > > I have just installed YD3.0 on a new iBook 800MHz 12 laptop. It is > > dual boot, > > 10G for OS X and 17G for YD. Both OS's are running just fine. The > > installs were > > simple. > > > > However, wireless is dead. I went to this machine because I could not > > get > > wireless with WEP to work on my Gateway Solo with RH or SuSE and > > reports were > > good on YD. Looks like I may still be stuck (hope not). > > > > During boot, eth0 comes up fine if connected to the LAN (wire). eth1 > > fails. I'm > > ASSUMMING that the airport card is eth1. The Redhat network config > > utility fails > > on line 137 with a message that indicates the problem is probably a > > bug. I > > checked out eth1 with iwconfig and found that it was, indeed, set up > > for > > wireless, but with no config info. I entered the essd and key with > > iwconfig. > > That now checks out OK. Still won't boot and run. > > > > Anyone have any thoughts? Anyone running YD3.0 on a new iBook? > > > > George > > > > > > --- Msg sent via WebMail@litenverden.com - http://mail.litenverden.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Thu May 29 23:54:28 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Longman, Bill) Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 15:54:28 -0700 Subject: Recover disk partitions on a 3400 Message-ID: Thanks, Andy! It's, um, not booting off the CD, though. I've got a 9.2.1 CD and it doesn't even seem to seek on that disk. All I get is the QuestionMark-FloppyDisk and a whirring sound that repeats every five seconds from the internal drive. I can get to Open Firmware 2.0.1 but that's it. Where to from here?.... Bill > Boot from an OS 8.6 or OS 9.x cd and repartition the hard > drive leaving > the partition as Unallocated. > > Andy > > On Thursday, May 29, 2003, at 02:56 PM, Longman, Bill wrote: > > > I have a new (ha!) 3400 and upon inspection, it looks like all > > partitions > > have been deleted from the drive. What would be the > solution to get the > > drive reformatted/partitioned so YDL can be loaded? > > > > Bill From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 00:38:52 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Bert Knabe) Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 18:38:52 -0500 Subject: Monitor problem Message-ID: I'll try one more time. ;) In MacOS, the monitor is fine, but when I boot into Linux, the monitor takes on a yellow cast, but the yellow cast is not universal. Minimizing a window and restoring it will result in the contents of the window returning to their normal color. Anyone have any idea if this is a messed up setting or what I can do to get rid of it? Bert -- "... God, not man, is the final authority. God has rights. Human beings have duties; we deny God his rights at our peril. Paul Johnson From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 01:16:23 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Angela Kahealani) Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 14:16:23 -1000 Subject: Monitor problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200305291416.31863.angela@kahealani.com> On Thu, 2003-05-29 13:38, Bert Knabe wrote: > "... God, not man, is the final authority. God has rights. > Human beings have duties; we deny God his rights > at our peril. -- Paul Johnson > Bert This is NOT the place for religious expression... take it to another forum. -- Copyright 2003 Angela Kahealani. http://www.kahealani.com/ All Rights Reserved Without Prejudice, UCC 1-207, Non Assumsit, T.D.C. All information and transactions are private between the parties and are non negotiable. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 01:16:53 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Andrew McVinnie) Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 18:16:53 -0600 Subject: YD3.0 Wireless Inoperative In-Reply-To: <000a01c3262e$a5b3a1f0$6900a8c0@Harry> Message-ID: <043ACA1A-9234-11D7-B62C-000393DF0184@mac.com> Hi George, If youu have a regualr airport card, 802.11b, the How-To fir YDL will work in setting up your YDL 3.0 for airport. If you have a 12" PowerBook, and it has an Airport card, then you DO have an Airport Extreme card. It is impossible to put an older card in tot the 12" PB. therefore, if you have YDL 3 on a PowerBook 12" you can not use wireless. (Or at least I have not figured it out, nor does there seem to be any discussion of the matter other than YDL listing Extreme as not supported on their hardware pages). Andy On Thursday, May 29, 2003, at 04:07 PM, YD wrote: > Great! > > I'll give this a whirl. I do not have an extreme card. If I read you > correctly, you're saying even the how to won't help me with my 12 inch > iBook? > > George > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew McVinnie" > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 5:50 PM > Subject: Re: YD3.0 Wireless Inoperative > > >> The set up HOW TO on YDL web site for YDL 2.3 still works for YDL 3. >> HOWEVER if you have airport extreme card, you are screwed. YDL does >> not >> have drivers for the Extreme card yet. Nothing I have tried will get >> it >> to work with mt 12" power book >> >> Someday, maybe YDL will come with a complete feature set. If it doesnt >> support Extreme, then it doesnt support a 12" PB >> >> Andy >> >> On Thursday, May 29, 2003, at 03:13 PM, wrote: >> >>> I have just installed YD3.0 on a new iBook 800MHz 12 laptop. It is >>> dual boot, >>> 10G for OS X and 17G for YD. Both OS's are running just fine. The >>> installs were >>> simple. >>> >>> However, wireless is dead. I went to this machine because I could >>> not >>> get >>> wireless with WEP to work on my Gateway Solo with RH or SuSE and >>> reports were >>> good on YD. Looks like I may still be stuck (hope not). >>> >>> During boot, eth0 comes up fine if connected to the LAN (wire). eth1 >>> fails. I'm >>> ASSUMMING that the airport card is eth1. The Redhat network config >>> utility fails >>> on line 137 with a message that indicates the problem is probably a >>> bug. I >>> checked out eth1 with iwconfig and found that it was, indeed, set up >>> for >>> wireless, but with no config info. I entered the essd and key with >>> iwconfig. >>> That now checks out OK. Still won't boot and run. >>> >>> Anyone have any thoughts? Anyone running YD3.0 on a new iBook? >>> >>> George >>> >>> >>> --- Msg sent via WebMail@litenverden.com - >>> http://mail.litenverden.com/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> yellowdog-newbie mailing list >>> yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >>> http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie >> >> _______________________________________________ >> yellowdog-newbie mailing list >> yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >> http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 01:33:32 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Andrew McVinnie) Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 18:33:32 -0600 Subject: Recover disk partitions on a 3400 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <577087D2-9236-11D7-B62C-000393DF0184@mac.com> If I am not mistaken, a powerbook 3400 can not run Mac OS 9.2 at all. HTe last supported OS it could run is Mac OS 9.1. Mac OS 9.2 requires a G3 or G4. So you will have to boot from a 9.1 CD Andy On Thursday, May 29, 2003, at 04:54 PM, Longman, Bill wrote: > Thanks, Andy! > > It's, um, not booting off the CD, though. I've got a 9.2.1 CD and it > doesn't > even seem to seek on that disk. All I get is the > QuestionMark-FloppyDisk and > a whirring sound that repeats every five seconds from the internal > drive. > > I can get to Open Firmware 2.0.1 but that's it. > > Where to from here?.... > > Bill > >> Boot from an OS 8.6 or OS 9.x cd and repartition the hard >> drive leaving >> the partition as Unallocated. >> >> Andy >> >> On Thursday, May 29, 2003, at 02:56 PM, Longman, Bill wrote: >> >>> I have a new (ha!) 3400 and upon inspection, it looks like all >>> partitions >>> have been deleted from the drive. What would be the >> solution to get the >>> drive reformatted/partitioned so YDL can be loaded? >>> >>> Bill > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 01:22:25 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Andrew McVinnie) Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 18:22:25 -0600 Subject: Monitor problem In-Reply-To: <200305291416.31863.angela@kahealani.com> Message-ID: I agree, please keep your religion to yourself. On Thursday, May 29, 2003, at 06:16 PM, Angela Kahealani wrote: > On Thu, 2003-05-29 13:38, Bert Knabe wrote: >> "... God, not man, is the final authority. God has rights. >> Human beings have duties; we deny God his rights >> at our peril. -- Paul Johnson >> Bert > > This is NOT the place for religious expression... > take it to another forum. > > -- > Copyright 2003 Angela Kahealani. http://www.kahealani.com/ > All Rights Reserved Without Prejudice, UCC 1-207, > Non Assumsit, T.D.C. All information and transactions > are private between the parties and are non negotiable. > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 01:21:17 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Andrew McVinnie) Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 18:21:17 -0600 Subject: Monitor problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: sounds like a monitor setting was set wrong during the installation process, but I really have no idea. I would try re-installing and verifying the monitor settings at the appropriate time during the installation. If that fails to work yet again, then i would try it all again, this time trying different monitor settings. For example, I have never gotten YDL to use Millions of Colors... On any machine with any monitor, on any graphics card. I always have to use Thousands. Other than that, i don't know what the problem is. Andy On Thursday, May 29, 2003, at 05:38 PM, Bert Knabe wrote: > I'll try one more time. ;) > > In MacOS, the monitor is fine, but when I boot into Linux, the monitor > takes > on a yellow cast, but the yellow cast is not universal. Minimizing a > window > and restoring it will result in the contents of the window returning to > their normal color. Anyone have any idea if this is a messed up > setting or > what I can do to get rid of it? > > Bert > > -- > "... God, not man, is the final authority. God has rights. Human > beings have > duties; we deny God his rights at our peril. > Paul Johnson > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 01:55:50 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Daniel Koskinen) Date: 30 May 2003 03:55:50 +0300 Subject: Monitor problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1054256149.20627.4.camel@user-46.catv.tpo.fi> > I have never gotten YDL to use Millions of Colors... On any machine with > any monitor, on any graphics card. I always have to use Thousands. How odd, it works fine here on a 400 MHz iMac. It slows down gui responsivess, though. My problem is that when YDL is in thousands of colors, MOL will only show 256 colors properly when displayed in an X-window. The thousands of colors -setting results in really weird colors. When both MOL and YDL are at millions of colors, everything is fine. Also console-mode works fine at any color depth. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 01:53:21 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com) Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 17:53:21 -0700 Subject: Proxy server Message-ID: <1C6FB0C8-9239-11D7-A6FF-0005024794B2@atsecure.net> I was trying to set up my internet settings through the Internet Configuration Wizard and I had problems. Well it was easy to set up, but I have to set up proxy settings for Web Proxy and Secure Web Proxy. I did not see where I could put these settings. I am not sure if I have to edit some thing else to do this or what. I know in OS X I have to put these down under Network. Can some one please help me so I can connect on the internet. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 02:03:52 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Andrew McVinnie) Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 19:03:52 -0600 Subject: Monitor problem In-Reply-To: <1054256149.20627.4.camel@user-46.catv.tpo.fi> Message-ID: <941F0538-923A-11D7-85BE-000393DF0184@mac.com> Thats good to know... Is it possible to change the Monitor settings with out reinstalling YDL? I would like to try the GUI at Millions, but cant find a place to change it. Thanks Andrew McVinnie On Thursday, May 29, 2003, at 06:55 PM, Daniel Koskinen wrote: >> I have never gotten YDL to use Millions of Colors... On any machine >> with >> any monitor, on any graphics card. I always have to use Thousands. > > How odd, it works fine here on a 400 MHz iMac. It slows down gui > responsivess, though. My problem is that when YDL is in thousands of > colors, MOL will only show 256 colors properly when displayed in an > X-window. The thousands of colors -setting results in really weird > colors. When both MOL and YDL are at millions of colors, everything is > fine. Also console-mode works fine at any color depth. > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 02:09:42 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (David Roth) Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 18:09:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Powerbook g3 wallstreet floppy drives Message-ID: <20030530010942.56881.qmail@web11005.mail.yahoo.com> OK. how do I get to my floppy drives? I can use mdir to see the floppy in the right module, but i normally use the floppy in the left module! also, how do I see a mac formatted disk in either module? I see that a swim driver was loaded for both fd0 and fd1, but I cannot get them to mount! From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 06:08:58 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Bert Knabe) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 00:08:58 -0500 Subject: Monitor problem In-Reply-To: <200305291416.31863.angela@kahealani.com> Message-ID: It's sig with, separated from the main email, after my name, not before. If you find it offensive, don't read it, or make a responding sig and give me something to laugh about. Bert On 05/29/2003 07:16 PM, "Angela Kahealani" wrote: > On Thu, 2003-05-29 13:38, Bert Knabe wrote: >> "... God, not man, is the final authority. God has rights. >> Human beings have duties; we deny God his rights >> at our peril. -- Paul Johnson >> Bert > > This is NOT the place for religious expression... > take it to another forum. -- Always keep in mind that ignorance is curable. Stupidity, however, is a lifelong problem. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 06:14:33 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Bert Knabe) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 00:14:33 -0500 Subject: Monitor problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It is a sig, which is usually accepted as a place for personal expression, placed after my name so people should know anything after that point is not part of the main message. Ms. Kahealani rearranged the email to place the sig before my name and make it look like I'd sent it as a message to the group. On 05/29/2003 07:22 PM, "Andrew McVinnie" wrote: > I agree, please keep your religion to yourself. >=20 >=20 > On Thursday, May 29, 2003, at 06:16 PM, Angela Kahealani wrote: >=20 >> On Thu, 2003-05-29 13:38, Bert Knabe wrote: >>> "... God, not man, is the final authority. God has rights. >>> Human beings have duties; we deny God his rights >>> at our peril. -- Paul Johnson >>> Bert >>=20 >> This is NOT the place for religious expression... >> take it to another forum. >>=20 >> --=20 >> Copyright 2003 Angela Kahealani. http://www.kahealani.com/ >> All Rights Reserved Without Prejudice, UCC 1-207, >> Non Assumsit, T.D.C. All information and transactions >> are private between the parties and are non negotiable. >> _______________________________________________ >> yellowdog-newbie mailing list >> yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >> http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie >=20 > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie --=20 Most of the people I know use Macs, and it feels like we=B9re a privileged minority, though the odd thing is that, unlike Mercedes=B9 or BMWs, they are not significantly more expensive than the competition. Why does anybody use anything else? -Douglas Adams From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 06:22:01 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Bert Knabe) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 00:22:01 -0500 Subject: Monitor problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ms. Kahealoni, I want to apologize. My sigs come up randomly, and I didn't notice that the "Ignorance is curable" one came up on my response to your email. That was not intentional, and I am sincerely sorry. Bert On 05/30/2003 12:08 AM, "Bert Knabe" wrote: > > > It's sig with, separated from the main email, after my name, not before. If > you find it offensive, don't read it, or make a responding sig and give me > something to laugh about. > > Bert > > On 05/29/2003 07:16 PM, "Angela Kahealani" wrote: > >> On Thu, 2003-05-29 13:38, Bert Knabe wrote: >>> "... God, not man, is the final authority. God has rights. >>> Human beings have duties; we deny God his rights >>> at our peril. -- Paul Johnson >>> Bert >> >> This is NOT the place for religious expression... >> take it to another forum. > -- "DOS Computers, manufactured by millions of companies, are by far the most popular, with about 70 million machines in use worldwide. Macintosh fans, on the other hand, may note that cockroaches are far more numerous than humans, and that numbers alone do not denote a higher life form." -Douglas Adams From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 06:30:40 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Bert Knabe) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 00:30:40 -0500 Subject: Apology to list Message-ID: I should have responded to comments about my sig privately and not cluttered up the list. It won't happen again. Bert -- Mac OS X. Because making Unix user-friendly is easier than debugging Windows. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 06:43:56 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Angela Kahealani) Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 19:43:56 -1000 Subject: Monitor problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200305291943.56751.angela@kahealani.com> On Thu, 2003-05-29 19:22, Bert Knabe wrote: > Ms. Kahealoni, I want to apologize. My sigs come up randomly, and I didn't > notice that the "Ignorance is curable" one came up on my response to your well, I guess ignorance is NOT curable... there's always that annoying free will choice to ignore other peoples rights not to be off-topic solicted by your belief systems. This is NOT the place for religious expression... take it to another forum. I don't give a damn if it's in the headers, body, or signature. Take your religious beliefs out of the Linux forums. Either remove THAT signature from your random pool, or stop randomization on postings to Linux forums. -- Copyright 2003 Angela Kahealani. http://www.kahealani.com/ All Rights Reserved Without Prejudice, UCC 1-207, Non Assumsit, T.D.C. All information and transactions are private between the parties and are non negotiable. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 06:45:39 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Angela Kahealani) Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 19:45:39 -1000 Subject: Monitor problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200305291945.40002.angela@kahealani.com> On Thu, 2003-05-29 19:08, Bert Knabe wrote: > It's sig with, separated from the main email, after my name, not before. If > you find it offensive, don't read it, or make a responding sig and give me > something to laugh about. This is a LINUX forum NOT a religous forum. I'll HAPPILY discuss spiritual matters with you, BUT NOT IN THIS FORUM.. and your response to my notification to you that is is inappropriate is to suggest escalating the off topic postings. Get BACK ON TOPIC! -- Copyright 2003 Angela Kahealani. http://www.kahealani.com/ All Rights Reserved Without Prejudice, UCC 1-207, Non Assumsit, T.D.C. All information and transactions are private between the parties and are non negotiable. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 07:03:37 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (S.M.Kelly) Date: 30 May 2003 02:03:37 -0400 Subject: Monitor problem In-Reply-To: <200305291943.56751.angela@kahealani.com> References: <200305291943.56751.angela@kahealani.com> Message-ID: <1054274549.1196.22.camel@pcp01464176pcs.lpaxtn01.pa.comcast.net> Mam, You are WAY out of line. You have to be so obnoxious. And if you get so easily offended by someone's INDIRECT signature ... get a life, or at least a cup of coffee! You live in a democracy, not communism, therefore sometimes you just have to put up with other people's beliefs instead of trying to shut everybody else up but yourself. geesh, grow up people and let's talk about Linux. On Fri, 2003-05-30 at 01:43, Angela Kahealani wrote: > On Thu, 2003-05-29 19:22, Bert Knabe wrote: > > Ms. Kahealoni, I want to apologize. My sigs come up randomly, and I didn't > > notice that the "Ignorance is curable" one came up on my response to your > > well, I guess ignorance is NOT curable... > there's always that annoying free will choice > to ignore other peoples rights not to be off-topic solicted > by your belief systems. > > This is NOT the place for religious expression... > take it to another forum. > > I don't give a damn if it's in the headers, body, or signature. > Take your religious beliefs out of the Linux forums. Either > remove THAT signature from your random pool, or stop > randomization on postings to Linux forums. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 08:29:15 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Goofus) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 03:29:15 -0400 Subject: Monitor problem References: <200305291943.56751.angela@kahealani.com> <1054274549.1196.22.camel@pcp01464176pcs.lpaxtn01.pa.comcast.net> Message-ID: I wholeheartedly agree -- if this person had simply posted his beliefs here and tried to start a discussion about religion it would be a different story; however, it's a quote that's part of his SIGNATURE line on (likely) ALL of his outgoing e-mail, so if you don't like it and can't ignore it I suggest you pay for his internet access; THEN (and only then) can you dictate how he signs his personal e-mail and where he's allowed to send it. And for someone so blatantly offended by something so innocent, you've certainly managed to call attention to it and start quite the posting frenzy about it. Congratulations. D. ----- Original Message ----- From: "S.M.Kelly" To: Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 2:03 AM Subject: Re: Monitor problem > Mam, > You are WAY out of line. > > You have to be so obnoxious. > > And if you get so easily offended by someone's INDIRECT signature ... > get a life, or at least a cup of coffee! > > You live in a democracy, not communism, therefore sometimes you just > have to put up with other people's beliefs instead of trying to shut > everybody else up but yourself. > > > geesh, grow up people and let's talk about Linux. > > > > > On Fri, 2003-05-30 at 01:43, Angela Kahealani wrote: > > On Thu, 2003-05-29 19:22, Bert Knabe wrote: > > > Ms. Kahealoni, I want to apologize. My sigs come up randomly, and I didn't > > > notice that the "Ignorance is curable" one came up on my response to your > > > > well, I guess ignorance is NOT curable... > > there's always that annoying free will choice > > to ignore other peoples rights not to be off-topic solicted > > by your belief systems. > > > > This is NOT the place for religious expression... > > take it to another forum. > > > > I don't give a damn if it's in the headers, body, or signature. > > Take your religious beliefs out of the Linux forums. Either > > remove THAT signature from your random pool, or stop > > randomization on postings to Linux forums. > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 08:36:08 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Goofus) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 03:36:08 -0400 Subject: copyright info (was "Monitor problem") References: <200305291943.56751.angela@kahealani.com> Message-ID: Angela, Speaking of e-mail signatures -- I don't appreciate the fact that you quote posts from others here, include them in your replies, then attach that faux 'Copyright 2003 Angela Kahealani' to everything coming out of YOUR e-mail box. Our words belong to US, and unless we sign over to you rights and clearances to our thoughts and e-mails here, then you have no permission whatsoever to use a signature line so blatantly violating our personal rights by claiming your posts have copyrights attached to them. Get the "copyright" garbage out of YOUR e-mails or don't post here. Thanks. D. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angela Kahealani" To: ; "Bert Knabe" Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 1:43 AM Subject: Re: Monitor problem > On Thu, 2003-05-29 19:22, Bert Knabe wrote: > > Ms. Kahealoni, I want to apologize. My sigs come up randomly, and I didn't > > notice that the "Ignorance is curable" one came up on my response to your > > well, I guess ignorance is NOT curable... > there's always that annoying free will choice > to ignore other peoples rights not to be off-topic solicted > by your belief systems. > > This is NOT the place for religious expression... > take it to another forum. > > I don't give a damn if it's in the headers, body, or signature. > Take your religious beliefs out of the Linux forums. Either > remove THAT signature from your random pool, or stop > randomization on postings to Linux forums. > > -- > Copyright 2003 Angela Kahealani. http://www.kahealani.com/ > All Rights Reserved Without Prejudice, UCC 1-207, > Non Assumsit, T.D.C. All information and transactions > are private between the parties and are non negotiable. > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 09:12:11 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Suzanne Payne) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 09:12:11 +0100 Subject: Powerbook g3 wallstreet floppy drives In-Reply-To: <20030530010942.56881.qmail@web11005.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20030530010942.56881.qmail@web11005.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2147483647.1054285931@beefcake.alcina.org> --On Thursday, May 29, 2003 6:09 pm -0700 David Roth wrote: > OK. how do I get to my floppy drives? I can use mdir > to see the floppy in the right module, but i normally > use the floppy in the left module! I seem to recall reading something on the YDL site about the floppy module must be in the right slot, otherwise it won't work. Sorry, Suzanne From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 09:38:30 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Angela Kahealani) Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 22:38:30 -1000 Subject: copyright info (was "Monitor problem") In-Reply-To: References: <200305291943.56751.angela@kahealani.com> Message-ID: <200305292238.30100.angela@kahealani.com> On Thu, 2003-05-29 21:36, Goofus wrote: > Angela, > > Speaking of e-mail signatures -- I don't appreciate the fact that you quote > posts from others here, include them in your replies, then attach that faux > 'Copyright 2003 Angela Kahealani' to everything coming out of YOUR e-mail > box. Please quote the law, statue, case, common, or admiralty, that renders my Copyright invalid? We're in private law here. Obviously I can only copyright that which I author. I do. Obviously my copyright cannot apply to that which another authored. Therefore, it is to be understood that my copyright notice applies to the portions of a posting I authored, not quoted. The quotes still belong to the author. Further, as copyright law has evolved, it has been legally construed that EVERY original work is AUTOMATICALLY copyrighted even without a copyright notice, unless there is something which indicates that the person has released their rights. I use my own form of copyleft on my website, but my e-mails and usenet news postings are copyrighted. > Our words belong to US, and unless we sign over to you rights and > clearances to our thoughts and e-mails here, then you have no permission > whatsoever to use a signature line so blatantly violating our personal > rights by claiming your posts have copyrights attached to them. You may need to research copyright law. I have made no claims to your words. I specifically disclaim copyright of anything authored by another person, past, present, and future. > Get the "copyright" garbage out of YOUR e-mails or don't post here. > > Thanks. > > D. not until it becomes official policy of the mailing list owner. ...speaking of which, I think it's time for a ruling that religious issues either are or are not approriate in this forum, from the forum owner. ... signature or no, a statement of SUPPOSED spiritual truth has been made by a participant of this forum, and if I ever again see ANY religious postings here, I will begin rebutting them voluminously until religion is excommunicated from this forum. "--" separating body from signature, does not make any difference about the SUBJECT of the words written, and this is a LINUX forum, nothing else. -- Copyright 2003 Angela Kahealani. http://www.kahealani.com/ All Rights Reserved Without Prejudice, UCC 1-207, Non Assumsit, T.D.C. All information and transactions are private between the parties and are non negotiable. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 09:54:46 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Angela Kahealani) Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 22:54:46 -1000 Subject: Monitor problem In-Reply-To: References: <1054274549.1196.22.camel@pcp01464176pcs.lpaxtn01.pa.comcast.net> Message-ID: <200305292254.46259.angela@kahealani.com> On Thu, 2003-05-29 21:29, Goofus wrote: > I wholeheartedly agree -- if this person had simply posted his beliefs here > and tried to start a discussion about religion it would be a different > story; He did post his beliefs here. This is a discussion forum. Posting to a discussion forum is an attempt to start a discussion. > however, it's a quote that's part of his SIGNATURE line on (likely) > ALL of his outgoing e-mail, so if you don't like it and can't ignore it I > suggest you pay for his internet access; THEN (and only then) can you > dictate how he signs his personal e-mail and where he's allowed to send it. He can send anything he likes to anyone he chooses, right up to the point where it violates the rights of others. Others have made this a Linux forum, not a religious one. > And for someone so blatantly offended by something so innocent, His spiritual lies are not in the least innocent. > you've > certainly managed to call attention to it and start quite the posting > frenzy about it. Congratulations. Either his statements will be rebutted here, or they will be excluded here, or we will expand this discussion until it takes over the forum. If religion is acceptable here, I'll begin rebutting his lies about spirit. If not, I'll keep my spiritual beliefs where they belong, OUT of LINUX forums. I'm not the authority on this newsgroup. THE authority needs to make a choice.. religion yes, or religion no. I will abide by the choice. Can we PLEASE get back on topic?... the ENTIRE point of my original protest! I replace my usual signature with an expanded explanation for those who don't know enough law to understand: "Copyright 2003 Angela Kahealani. " I own my words. "http://www.kahealani.com/" Where you can find my information that is off topic to the forum I'm emailing or newsposting... i.e. I DO respect the TOPICALITY of each forum. "All Rights Reserved Without Prejudice, UCC 1-207" I reserve ALL my rights, not just copyright. "Non Assumsit, T.D.C. " I refuse all contracts of adhesion, and only have ANYthing to do with the PUBLIC POLICY when forced to do so under Threat, Duress and Coersion. " All information and transactions are private between the parties and are non negotiable." That I share my words in one forum does not mean they can be taken to another, they are private between myself and the persons I CHOSE to share them with. Nothing in my interaction with any other human on Ter-Ra can be brought before any "judge" of statutory jurisdiction, since I operate ONLY in private law. Now, do you understand that I have made no claim whatsoever to the words of any other person, merely that you innocently do not understand enough law to interpret my signature? If this brief description is insufficient, visit kahealani.com/ucc From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 10:15:58 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Brook Calverley) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 10:15:58 +0100 Subject: [OT] Off topic [was Re: Monitor problem] In-Reply-To: <200305292254.46259.angela@kahealani.com> Message-ID: May I make an observation? Another newsgroup I belong to has developed a brilliant device called [OT]. It means Off Topic. Adding [OT] to the subject line of any post not directly related to Linux, allows uninterested subscribers the freedom to filter [OT] posts by the use of a simple rule. Much as I've enjoyed reading this utterly bizarre argument [and, BTW, one of you is clearly nuts] I'm sure others would have been happy for the whole lot to have been automatically consigned to the delete file. b// -- Brook Calverley On 30/5/03 9:54 am, "Angela Kahealani" wrote: > Either his statements will be rebutted here, > or they will be excluded here, or we will expand > this discussion until it takes over the forum. > > If religion is acceptable here, I'll begin rebutting > his lies about spirit. If not, I'll keep my spiritual > beliefs where they belong, OUT of LINUX forums. > etc. etc. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 10:18:36 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Angela Kahealani) Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 23:18:36 -1000 Subject: Monitor problem In-Reply-To: <1054274549.1196.22.camel@pcp01464176pcs.lpaxtn01.pa.comcast.net> References: <200305291943.56751.angela@kahealani.com> <1054274549.1196.22.camel@pcp01464176pcs.lpaxtn01.pa.comcast.net> Message-ID: <200305292318.36106.angela@kahealani.com> On Thu, 2003-05-29 20:03, S.M.Kelly wrote: > And if you get so easily offended by someone's INDIRECT signature ... Indirect? what's indirect about it? what link did I follow to get to it? It's the last four DIRECT lines of the e-mail. (we DO recall that internet standard is maximum 4 lines in the sig?) > get a life, or at least a cup of coffee! I have a life. Coffee is deleterious to health. > You live in a democracy, not communism, what, now I must also tolerate POLITICS in my inbox? FROM a LINUX forum? You have stated a lie. It IS the lie taught in the Federally Programmed State Run Brainwashing Centers for Children (public schools), but it is not the truth. YOU live as the wholly owned chattel property of a bank. When the united States of America went Bankrupt, a corporation named The United States, Inc. was formed to administer the bankruptcy for the interersts of the international bankers. A meeting of the governors of the 48 Republics (not democracies) with F.D.R. was arranged at which the entire physical property, including all the slaves on the U.S. Plantation (you) were promised along with the fruits of all your labor, as the collateral for The United States, Inc. to get operational funding (loans) from the bankers. Your Birth Certificate, unless you redeemed it and became the holder in due course of title to your body, is the title of ownership of your body, just as houses and cars have "titles". YOU live in The Matrix, a chattel property slave. The Matrix feeds you the illusion that you are a free democrat, and that the religious beliefs presented by our other poster are true. They are lies. > therefore sometimes you just > have to put up with other people's beliefs instead of trying to shut > everybody else up but yourself. Then you're in FAVOR of SPAM? The point is I'm remaining shut-up about my spiritual beliefs because religion/spirituality are OFF TOPIC in a Linux discussion forum. I'm only demanding that everyone else equally remain shut up IN THIS FORUM about topics which are OFF TOPIC to this forum. So I guess we should merge EVERY Usenet Newsgroup into ONE... where democracy can be expressed by everyone equally. If you DON'T vote for that, then what we have is more than one forum, and certain topics are either ON or OFF topic in each forum. This is a forum. Religion and Politics either are or are not appropriate here. PERIOD. It is not my choice to make. Listowner? > geesh, grow up people and let's talk about Linux. THANK YOU... my sentiments exactly, and the very reason I protested the religious content. -- Copyright 2003 Angela Kahealani. http://www.kahealani.com/ All Rights Reserved Without Prejudice, UCC 1-207, Non Assumsit, T.D.C. All information and transactions are private between the parties and are non negotiable. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 10:25:01 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Angela Kahealani) Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 23:25:01 -1000 Subject: [OT] Off topic [was Re: Monitor problem] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200305292325.01090.angela@kahealani.com> On Thu, 2003-05-29 23:15, Brook Calverley wrote: > May I make an observation? Another newsgroup I belong to has developed a > brilliant device called [OT]. > > It means Off Topic. > > Adding [OT] to the subject line of any post not directly related to Linux, > allows uninterested subscribers the freedom to filter [OT] posts by the use > of a simple rule. So, the poster with the religious evangelism should have used [OT], right? MY signature describes only two things: 1: the url of my website so that I never have to post off topic 2: the terms and conditions and legal status of my participation. It is required (read UCC 1-207) that I ALWAYS in EVERY case protect my rights, or I lose them... IT'S THE LAW. > Much as I've enjoyed reading this utterly bizarre argument [and, BTW, one > of you is clearly nuts] I'm sure others would have been happy for the whole > lot to have been automatically consigned to the delete file. > > b// He's nuts, I'm the crazy one. Lunatic. Looney. By dictionary defintion, if you believe differently than the democratic majority, your beliefs are "crazy". look it up.... it's in the dictionary. Yes, I'm crazy, my beliefs are anything but common ordinary majority. I would never stoop so low as to align with the insanity of the majority of humans living on this planet: Ter-Ra. -- Copyright 2003 Angela Kahealani. http://www.kahealani.com/ All Rights Reserved Without Prejudice, UCC 1-207, Non Assumsit, T.D.C. All information and transactions are private between the parties and are non negotiable. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 10:44:56 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Goofus) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 05:44:56 -0400 Subject: Monitor problem References: <200305291943.56751.angela@kahealani.com> <1054274549.1196.22.camel@pcp01464176pcs.lpaxtn01.pa.comcast.net> <200305292318.36106.angela@kahealani.com> Message-ID: Is there a list owner around here that can (PLEASE) boot this bitch????? Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angela Kahealani" To: ; "S.M.Kelly" Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 5:18 AM Subject: Re: Monitor problem > On Thu, 2003-05-29 20:03, S.M.Kelly wrote: > > And if you get so easily offended by someone's INDIRECT signature ... > > Indirect? what's indirect about it? > what link did I follow to get to it? > It's the last four DIRECT lines of the e-mail. > (we DO recall that internet standard is maximum 4 lines in the sig?) > > > get a life, or at least a cup of coffee! > > I have a life. Coffee is deleterious to health. > > > You live in a democracy, not communism, > > what, now I must also tolerate POLITICS in my inbox? > FROM a LINUX forum? > You have stated a lie. It IS the lie taught in the Federally > Programmed State Run Brainwashing Centers for Children > (public schools), but it is not the truth. > > YOU live as the wholly owned chattel property of a bank. > When the united States of America went Bankrupt, a > corporation named The United States, Inc. was formed > to administer the bankruptcy for the interersts of the > international bankers. A meeting of the governors of > the 48 Republics (not democracies) with F.D.R. was > arranged at which the entire physical property, including > all the slaves on the U.S. Plantation (you) were promised > along with the fruits of all your labor, as the collateral > for The United States, Inc. to get operational funding > (loans) from the bankers. Your Birth Certificate, unless > you redeemed it and became the holder in due course > of title to your body, is the title of ownership of your > body, just as houses and cars have "titles". YOU live > in The Matrix, a chattel property slave. The Matrix > feeds you the illusion that you are a free democrat, > and that the religious beliefs presented by our other > poster are true. They are lies. > > > therefore sometimes you just > > have to put up with other people's beliefs instead of trying to shut > > everybody else up but yourself. > > Then you're in FAVOR of SPAM? > > The point is I'm remaining shut-up about my spiritual beliefs > because religion/spirituality are OFF TOPIC in a Linux > discussion forum. I'm only demanding that everyone else > equally remain shut up IN THIS FORUM about topics > which are OFF TOPIC to this forum. > > So I guess we should merge EVERY Usenet Newsgroup into ONE... > where democracy can be expressed by everyone equally. If you DON'T > vote for that, then what we have is more than one forum, and > certain topics are either ON or OFF topic in each forum. This is a forum. > Religion and Politics either are or are not appropriate here. PERIOD. > It is not my choice to make. Listowner? > > > geesh, grow up people and let's talk about Linux. > > THANK YOU... my sentiments exactly, and the very reason > I protested the religious content. > > -- > Copyright 2003 Angela Kahealani. http://www.kahealani.com/ > All Rights Reserved Without Prejudice, UCC 1-207, > Non Assumsit, T.D.C. All information and transactions > are private between the parties and are non negotiable. > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 10:46:10 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Goofus) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 05:46:10 -0400 Subject: copyright info (was "Monitor problem") References: <200305291943.56751.angela@kahealani.com> <200305292238.30100.angela@kahealani.com> Message-ID: DON'T QUOTE MY WORDS INTO YOUR "COPYRIGHTED" REPLIES. THANKS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angela Kahealani" To: ; "Goofus" Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 4:38 AM Subject: Re: copyright info (was "Monitor problem") > On Thu, 2003-05-29 21:36, Goofus wrote: > > Angela, > > > > Speaking of e-mail signatures -- I don't appreciate the fact that you quote > > posts from others here, include them in your replies, then attach that faux > > 'Copyright 2003 Angela Kahealani' to everything coming out of YOUR e-mail > > box. > > Please quote the law, statue, case, common, or admiralty, > that renders my Copyright invalid? We're in private law here. > Obviously I can only copyright that which I author. I do. > Obviously my copyright cannot apply to that which another authored. > Therefore, it is to be understood that my copyright notice applies > to the portions of a posting I authored, not quoted. The quotes > still belong to the author. Further, as copyright law has evolved, it > has been legally construed that EVERY original work is AUTOMATICALLY > copyrighted even without a copyright notice, unless there is something > which indicates that the person has released their rights. I use my own > form of copyleft on my website, but my e-mails and usenet news postings > are copyrighted. > > > Our words belong to US, and unless we sign over to you rights and > > clearances to our thoughts and e-mails here, then you have no permission > > whatsoever to use a signature line so blatantly violating our personal > > rights by claiming your posts have copyrights attached to them. > > You may need to research copyright law. > I have made no claims to your words. > I specifically disclaim copyright of anything authored by another person, > past, present, and future. > > > Get the "copyright" garbage out of YOUR e-mails or don't post here. > > > > Thanks. > > > > D. > > not until it becomes official policy of the mailing list owner. > > ...speaking of which, I think it's time for a ruling that > religious issues either are or are not approriate in this forum, > from the forum owner. > > ... signature or no, a statement of SUPPOSED spiritual > truth has been made by a participant of this forum, and > if I ever again see ANY religious postings here, I will > begin rebutting them voluminously until religion is > excommunicated from this forum. > > "--" separating body from signature, does not make > any difference about the SUBJECT of the words written, > and this is a LINUX forum, nothing else. > > -- > Copyright 2003 Angela Kahealani. http://www.kahealani.com/ > All Rights Reserved Without Prejudice, UCC 1-207, > Non Assumsit, T.D.C. All information and transactions > are private between the parties and are non negotiable. > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 10:54:00 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Brook Calverley) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 10:54:00 +0100 Subject: [OT] Re: Monitor problem In-Reply-To: <200305292318.36106.angela@kahealani.com> Message-ID: Angela, whatever minor indiscretion you believe Bert may have made, you have now WAY eclipsed him in terms of inappropriate content. For fear of hypocrisy this will be my last post on the matter; but I wanted to point out that you're doubly guilty of the very same practice that you so angrily denounced in the first place... b// On 30/5/03 10:18 am, "Angela Kahealani" wrote: > YOU live as the wholly owned chattel property of a bank. > When the united States of America went Bankrupt, a > corporation named The United States, Inc. was formed > etc. etc. -- Brook Calverley From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 10:54:31 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Goofus) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 05:54:31 -0400 Subject: [OT] Off topic [was Re: Monitor problem] References: Message-ID: This is beyond "OT" -- this Angela person needs to be removed from this list. Period. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brook Calverley" To: Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 5:15 AM Subject: [OT] Off topic [was Re: Monitor problem] > May I make an observation? Another newsgroup I belong to has developed a > brilliant device called [OT]. > > It means Off Topic. > > Adding [OT] to the subject line of any post not directly related to Linux, > allows uninterested subscribers the freedom to filter [OT] posts by the use > of a simple rule. > > Much as I've enjoyed reading this utterly bizarre argument [and, BTW, one of > you is clearly nuts] I'm sure others would have been happy for the whole lot > to have been automatically consigned to the delete file. > > b// > > -- > Brook Calverley > > > On 30/5/03 9:54 am, "Angela Kahealani" wrote: > > > Either his statements will be rebutted here, > > or they will be excluded here, or we will expand > > this discussion until it takes over the forum. > > > > If religion is acceptable here, I'll begin rebutting > > his lies about spirit. If not, I'll keep my spiritual > > beliefs where they belong, OUT of LINUX forums. > > > etc. etc. > > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 11:08:16 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Goofus) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 06:08:16 -0400 Subject: [OT] Off topic [was Re: Monitor problem] References: <200305292325.01090.angela@kahealani.com> Message-ID: At least it's good to see the fruitcake got here early this year. Merry Christmas everyone!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angela Kahealani" To: ; "Brook Calverley" Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 5:25 AM Subject: Re: [OT] Off topic [was Re: Monitor problem] > On Thu, 2003-05-29 23:15, Brook Calverley wrote: > > May I make an observation? Another newsgroup I belong to has developed a > > brilliant device called [OT]. > > > > It means Off Topic. > > > > Adding [OT] to the subject line of any post not directly related to Linux, > > allows uninterested subscribers the freedom to filter [OT] posts by the use > > of a simple rule. > > So, the poster with the religious evangelism should have used [OT], > right? > > MY signature describes only two things: > 1: the url of my website so that I never have to post off topic > 2: the terms and conditions and legal status of my participation. > It is required (read UCC 1-207) that I ALWAYS in EVERY case > protect my rights, or I lose them... IT'S THE LAW. > > > Much as I've enjoyed reading this utterly bizarre argument [and, BTW, one > > of you is clearly nuts] I'm sure others would have been happy for the whole > > lot to have been automatically consigned to the delete file. > > > > b// > > He's nuts, I'm the crazy one. Lunatic. Looney. > > By dictionary defintion, if you believe differently than > the democratic majority, your beliefs are "crazy". > > look it up.... it's in the dictionary. Yes, I'm crazy, my beliefs > are anything but common ordinary majority. > > I would never stoop so low as to align with the insanity of > the majority of humans living on this planet: Ter-Ra. > > -- > Copyright 2003 Angela Kahealani. http://www.kahealani.com/ > All Rights Reserved Without Prejudice, UCC 1-207, > Non Assumsit, T.D.C. All information and transactions > are private between the parties and are non negotiable. > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 11:19:07 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Pedro Gutierrez) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 12:19:07 +0200 Subject: [OT] Re: Monitor problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <25A39FC8-9288-11D7-BAEA-000A956871E2@mac.com> Goofus, I side with you but I think calling her 'bitch' isn't the way to go. You should apologize. Angela: it seems that you won't quit until everyone agrees with you. Have you noticed that nobody else was offended by Bert's random sig? I'm not saying that what everybody accepts is true and good, but you have made your point that you don't like those, and when sigs talk about spirituality/politics you are offended. That's ok, but would you please stop? Your very sig is also at fault 'cause people here in this forum live all over the world and copyright legislation is different. Or have you read copyright law from Mexico (where I'm from) and Spain (where I'm right now)?? I could find your sig offensive or even not legal from my perspective. Know what? I will use my common sense and won't be offended because the matter at hand is PPC Linux and your 'copyright' is clearly a sig; one I thought was just a joke. I sometimes use a quote from a mexican revolution leader as a sig. Someone could call it a political sig, but it isn't, at least not for me. I get all kinds of mail with custom (or random) sigs and I take them for what they are and move on. What you have said and done IS WAY BEYOND the purposes of this list. I didn't want to get involved in the discussion but the last Goofus e-mails will surely give us all a lot of your thoughts, so I decided to speak up. Hoping this will stop, Pedro On Friday, May 30, 2003, at 11:44 AM, Goofus wrote: > Is there a list owner around here that can (PLEASE) boot this > bitch????? > > Thanks > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Angela Kahealani" > To: ; "S.M.Kelly" > > Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 5:18 AM > Subject: Re: Monitor problem > > >> On Thu, 2003-05-29 20:03, S.M.Kelly wrote: >>> And if you get so easily offended by someone's INDIRECT signature ... >> >> Indirect? what's indirect about it? >> what link did I follow to get to it? >> It's the last four DIRECT lines of the e-mail. >> (we DO recall that internet standard is maximum 4 lines in the sig?) >> >>> get a life, or at least a cup of coffee! >> >> I have a life. Coffee is deleterious to health. >> >>> You live in a democracy, not communism, >> >> what, now I must also tolerate POLITICS in my inbox? >> FROM a LINUX forum? >> You have stated a lie. It IS the lie taught in the Federally >> Programmed State Run Brainwashing Centers for Children >> (public schools), but it is not the truth. >> >> YOU live as the wholly owned chattel property of a bank. >> When the united States of America went Bankrupt, a >> corporation named The United States, Inc. was formed >> to administer the bankruptcy for the interersts of the >> international bankers. A meeting of the governors of >> the 48 Republics (not democracies) with F.D.R. was >> arranged at which the entire physical property, including >> all the slaves on the U.S. Plantation (you) were promised >> along with the fruits of all your labor, as the collateral >> for The United States, Inc. to get operational funding >> (loans) from the bankers. Your Birth Certificate, unless >> you redeemed it and became the holder in due course >> of title to your body, is the title of ownership of your >> body, just as houses and cars have "titles". YOU live >> in The Matrix, a chattel property slave. The Matrix >> feeds you the illusion that you are a free democrat, >> and that the religious beliefs presented by our other >> poster are true. They are lies. >> >>> therefore sometimes you just >>> have to put up with other people's beliefs instead of trying to shut >>> everybody else up but yourself. >> >> Then you're in FAVOR of SPAM? >> >> The point is I'm remaining shut-up about my spiritual beliefs >> because religion/spirituality are OFF TOPIC in a Linux >> discussion forum. I'm only demanding that everyone else >> equally remain shut up IN THIS FORUM about topics >> which are OFF TOPIC to this forum. >> >> So I guess we should merge EVERY Usenet Newsgroup into ONE... >> where democracy can be expressed by everyone equally. If you DON'T >> vote for that, then what we have is more than one forum, and >> certain topics are either ON or OFF topic in each forum. This is a >> forum. >> Religion and Politics either are or are not appropriate here. PERIOD. >> It is not my choice to make. Listowner? >> >>> geesh, grow up people and let's talk about Linux. >> >> THANK YOU... my sentiments exactly, and the very reason >> I protested the religious content. >> >> -- >> Copyright 2003 Angela Kahealani. http://www.kahealani.com/ >> All Rights Reserved Without Prejudice, UCC 1-207, >> Non Assumsit, T.D.C. All information and transactions >> are private between the parties and are non negotiable. >> _______________________________________________ >> yellowdog-newbie mailing list >> yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >> http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie >> > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 11:29:02 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Goofus) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 06:29:02 -0400 Subject: [OT] Off topic [was Re: Monitor problem] References: <200305292325.01090.angela@kahealani.com> Message-ID: Finally, she sees the light. Granted, it's one of those blue revolving ones off in the distance that no one else sees, but it's a start! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angela Kahealani" To: ; "Brook Calverley" Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 5:25 AM Subject: Re: [OT] Off topic [was Re: Monitor problem] > > I'm the crazy one. Lunatic. Looney. > > By dictionary defintion, if you believe differently than > the democratic majority, your beliefs are "crazy". > > look it up.... it's in the dictionary. Yes, I'm crazy, my beliefs > are anything but common ordinary majority. > > I would never stoop so low as to align with the insanity of > the majority of humans living on this planet: Ter-Ra. > > -- > Copyright 2003 My Left Butt Cheek, > Forward Angela's e-mails to: abuse@lava.net , > All Rights Reserved With Prejudice And New Shiny Objects, NCC-1701Z, > Non Assumptive, D.O.A., A.S.P.C.A (rest in peace Mom), > All information and transactions are private between my head and my ass. > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 11:31:49 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (YD) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 06:31:49 -0400 Subject: YD3.0 Wireless Inoperative References: <043ACA1A-9234-11D7-B62C-000393DF0184@mac.com> Message-ID: <000801c32696$af1b2ed0$6900a8c0@Harry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew McVinnie" To: Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 8:16 PM Subject: Re: YD3.0 Wireless Inoperative > Hi George, > > If youu have a regualr airport card, 802.11b, the How-To fir YDL will > work in setting up your YDL 3.0 for airport. > Andy: I have an iBook2 12, 800MHz. I don't THINK I have the Extreme card. I've done the how-to twice, and while it boots with no errors, it still does not actually work. I did a complete reinstall last night. That did not help. I'm still plugging away. George From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 13:27:18 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Angela Kahealani) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 02:27:18 -1000 Subject: XF86Config: Apple Studio Display 17" LCD (1280x1024) ? In-Reply-To: References: <200305292318.36106.angela@kahealani.com> Message-ID: <200305300227.18898.angela@kahealani.com> Does anyone have a successful XF86Config file for an Apple Studio Display 17" LCD (1280x1024) who'd send me a copy? I haven't found on the Apple website's knowledge base sufficient specifications for this hardware to convince my X11 to go into graphical mode in a useful manner... instead the screen goes black. It works fine in console, except that on screen blank it merely screen blanks rather than powering-off the backlight also. When I shut down the computer the LCD does turn off its' backlight. Running A7N8X Deluxe 2.0, with an ATI Radeon 9700 All-In-Wonder. I previously tried it on my PowerMac Beige G3 MiniTower with an ATI Radeon 7000 Mac Edition, and could never make it work with YDL 2.3. The installer for YDL 3 used it ok, but then the YDL 3 was unbootable due to the lack of SCSI support for booting. Existing Log shows no errors: http://www.kahealani.net/XFree86.0.log.txt when run with http://www.kahealani.net/XF86Config.txt obviously to serve them over the web they grew .txt extensions. -- Copyright 2003 Angela Kahealani. http://www.kahealani.com/ All Rights Reserved Without Prejudice, UCC 1-207, Non Assumsit, T.D.C. All information and transactions are private between the parties and are non negotiable. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 13:29:24 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Angela Kahealani) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 02:29:24 -1000 Subject: SCSI support in YDL 3 In-Reply-To: References: <200305292318.36106.angela@kahealani.com> Message-ID: <200305300227.18898.angela@kahealani.com> I installed YDL 3 on my PowerMac Beige G3 MiniTower, but when I BOOT that YDL 3, it doesn't succeed due to the problem previously noted in YDL forae about the distro not containing support for the Apple Build-To-Order option of the Atto UW-SCSI card: sym-2.1.17a... so can't find the boot partition on the inaccessible UW SCSI disk where YDL 3 is installed. Anyone found a solution? Does it take compiling a custom kernel or is there somehow a module to add? -- Copyright 2003 Angela Kahealani. http://www.kahealani.com/ All Rights Reserved Without Prejudice, UCC 1-207, Non Assumsit, T.D.C. All information and transactions are private between the parties and are non negotiable. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 13:34:38 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Andrew McVinnie) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 06:34:38 -0600 Subject: YD3.0 Wireless Inoperative In-Reply-To: <000801c32696$af1b2ed0$6900a8c0@Harry> Message-ID: <142C52E2-929B-11D7-9E0E-000393DF0184@mac.com> Hi George, I do not think you have on eeither, though its been a while since I kept up with iBook specs. Have you tried to disable eth0? I seem to recall having to do this after following the HowTo. for some reason, I dont think it likes have more than one "eth" Other than that, I cant really help, except that in YDL 2.3, I had an iBook 600, which I did somehow get working, though I cant recall the peticulars at this moment. Andy On Friday, May 30, 2003, at 04:31 AM, YD wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew McVinnie" > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 8:16 PM > Subject: Re: YD3.0 Wireless Inoperative > > >> Hi George, >> >> If youu have a regualr airport card, 802.11b, the How-To fir YDL will >> work in setting up your YDL 3.0 for airport. >> > > Andy: > > I have an iBook2 12, 800MHz. I don't THINK I have the Extreme card. > I've > done the how-to twice, and while it boots with no errors, it still > does not > actually work. I did a complete reinstall last night. That did not > help. > > I'm still plugging away. > > George > > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 13:47:45 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Angela Kahealani) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 02:47:45 -1000 Subject: [OT] Re: Monitor problem In-Reply-To: <25A39FC8-9288-11D7-BAEA-000A956871E2@mac.com> References: <25A39FC8-9288-11D7-BAEA-000A956871E2@mac.com> Message-ID: <200305300247.45802.angela@kahealani.com> On Fri, 2003-05-30 00:19, Pedro Gutierrez wrote: > Goofus, > > I side with you but I think calling her 'bitch' isn't the way to go. > You should apologize. No problem, due to a private request he made in e-mail, that I never quote him, I put him in my killfile so I'll never see any of his postings so that I can't accidentally quote them in a copyrighted e-mail, which is the only kind I send. > Angela: it seems that you won't quit until everyone agrees with you. No, I'm perfectly happy for everyone to do whatever they believe. The PROBLEM is that Christians will never quit until everyone agrees with them. That's why we have a Christian message in the guy's signature... although there is a remote possibility that he had intended to supply random humor, there is nothing humorous about his Christian message. > Have you noticed that nobody else was offended by Bert's random sig? I'm not offended at that signature, I'm offended that it's in a Linux forum. > I'm not saying that what everybody accepts is true and good, but you > have made your point that you don't like those, and when sigs talk > about spirituality/politics you are offended. That's ok, but would you > please stop? In case you didn't notice, I already did. When people stop harrassing ME for having called "OFF TOPIC" in a Linux forum, and the off topic postings cease, I'll stay on topic. You CAN count on me to protest off-topicness, though I'm willing to filter out any e-mail whose subject starts with "[OT]" and not protest them. I shall implement that now. > Your very sig is also at fault 'cause people here in this forum live > all over the world and copyright legislation is different. Or have you > read copyright law from Mexico (where I'm from) and Spain (where I'm > right now)?? But those laws don't apply in either America, or in the United States, nor here in Hawai`i. > I could find your sig offensive or even not legal from my > perspective. Know what? I will use my common sense and won't be > offended because the matter at hand is PPC Linux and your 'copyright' > is clearly a sig; one I thought was just a joke. When I joke you'll see a :-) > I sometimes use a quote from a mexican revolution leader as a sig. > Someone could call it a political sig, but it isn't, at least not for > me. I get all kinds of mail with custom (or random) sigs and I take > them for what they are and move on. Mail, fine, there nothing is off topic... but this isn't one-to-one e-mail, it's a subject oriented forum, just as every UseNet NewsGroup is a subject oriented forum. Off Topic postings or parts of postings constitute inappropriate noise in the database. When the data is to be sorted by subject, the data needs to occur subject sorted, and religion is offtopic here. > What you have said and done IS WAY BEYOND the purposes of this list. Yes, can we please get back to Linux and off of PoliticoReligio stuff? Anyone care to respond to my ON-topic postings so that I stop wasting my time responding to these offtopic postings? > I didn't want to get involved in the discussion but the last Goofus > e-mails will surely give us all a lot of your thoughts, so I decided to > speak up. > > Hoping this will stop, It's done as far as I'm concerned, until the next posting trying to impose Christianity into my reality via a Linux forum. > Pedro Aloha, Kahealani -- Copyright 2003 Angela Kahealani. http://www.kahealani.com/ All Rights Reserved Without Prejudice, UCC 1-207, Non Assumsit, T.D.C. All information and transactions are private between the parties and are non negotiable. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 13:52:36 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Nate Birkholz) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 07:52:36 -0500 Subject: XF86Config: Apple Studio Display 17" LCD (1280x1024) ? In-Reply-To: <200305300227.18898.angela@kahealani.com> References: <200305300227.18898.angela@kahealani.com> Message-ID: <200305300752.36289.birkholz@visi.com> On Friday 30 May 2003 07:27, Angela Kahealani wrote: > except that on screen blank it merely > screen blanks rather than powering-off the backlight > also. When I shut down the computer the LCD does > turn off its' backlight.=20 This happens on my Pismo under 2.3, also. Screen goes black but=20 backlight stays on. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 13:52:55 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Enphilistor) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 08:52:55 -0400 Subject: [OT] Re: Monitor problem In-Reply-To: <25A39FC8-9288-11D7-BAEA-000A956871E2@mac.com> Message-ID: Pedro, Actually, I was (and still am) profoundly offended by Bert's signature. However The list is not the proper forum for any discussions I might choose to have with him about it. Enphilistor On Friday, May 30, 2003, at 06:19 AM, Pedro Gutierrez wrote: > Goofus, > > I side with you but I think calling her 'bitch' isn't the way to go. > You should apologize. > > Angela: it seems that you won't quit until everyone agrees with you. > Have you noticed that nobody else was offended by Bert's random sig? > I'm not saying that what everybody accepts is true and good, but you > have made your point that you don't like those, and when sigs talk > about spirituality/politics you are offended. That's ok, but would you > please stop? > > Your very sig is also at fault 'cause people here in this forum live > all over the world and copyright legislation is different. Or have you > read copyright law from Mexico (where I'm from) and Spain (where I'm > right now)?? I could find your sig offensive or even not legal from my > perspective. Know what? I will use my common sense and won't be > offended because the matter at hand is PPC Linux and your 'copyright' > is clearly a sig; one I thought was just a joke. > > I sometimes use a quote from a mexican revolution leader as a sig. > Someone could call it a political sig, but it isn't, at least not for > me. I get all kinds of mail with custom (or random) sigs and I take > them for what they are and move on. > > What you have said and done IS WAY BEYOND the purposes of this list. I > didn't want to get involved in the discussion but the last Goofus > e-mails will surely give us all a lot of your thoughts, so I decided > to speak up. > > Hoping this will stop, > > Pedro > > On Friday, May 30, 2003, at 11:44 AM, Goofus wrote: > >> Is there a list owner around here that can (PLEASE) boot this >> bitch????? >> >> Thanks >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Angela Kahealani" >> To: ; "S.M.Kelly" >> >> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 5:18 AM >> Subject: Re: Monitor problem >> >> >>> On Thu, 2003-05-29 20:03, S.M.Kelly wrote: >>>> And if you get so easily offended by someone's INDIRECT signature >>>> ... >>> >>> Indirect? what's indirect about it? >>> what link did I follow to get to it? >>> It's the last four DIRECT lines of the e-mail. >>> (we DO recall that internet standard is maximum 4 lines in the sig?) >>> >>>> get a life, or at least a cup of coffee! >>> >>> I have a life. Coffee is deleterious to health. >>> >>>> You live in a democracy, not communism, >>> >>> what, now I must also tolerate POLITICS in my inbox? >>> FROM a LINUX forum? >>> You have stated a lie. It IS the lie taught in the Federally >>> Programmed State Run Brainwashing Centers for Children >>> (public schools), but it is not the truth. >>> >>> YOU live as the wholly owned chattel property of a bank. >>> When the united States of America went Bankrupt, a >>> corporation named The United States, Inc. was formed >>> to administer the bankruptcy for the interersts of the >>> international bankers. A meeting of the governors of >>> the 48 Republics (not democracies) with F.D.R. was >>> arranged at which the entire physical property, including >>> all the slaves on the U.S. Plantation (you) were promised >>> along with the fruits of all your labor, as the collateral >>> for The United States, Inc. to get operational funding >>> (loans) from the bankers. Your Birth Certificate, unless >>> you redeemed it and became the holder in due course >>> of title to your body, is the title of ownership of your >>> body, just as houses and cars have "titles". YOU live >>> in The Matrix, a chattel property slave. The Matrix >>> feeds you the illusion that you are a free democrat, >>> and that the religious beliefs presented by our other >>> poster are true. They are lies. >>> >>>> therefore sometimes you just >>>> have to put up with other people's beliefs instead of trying to shut >>>> everybody else up but yourself. >>> >>> Then you're in FAVOR of SPAM? >>> >>> The point is I'm remaining shut-up about my spiritual beliefs >>> because religion/spirituality are OFF TOPIC in a Linux >>> discussion forum. I'm only demanding that everyone else >>> equally remain shut up IN THIS FORUM about topics >>> which are OFF TOPIC to this forum. >>> >>> So I guess we should merge EVERY Usenet Newsgroup into ONE... >>> where democracy can be expressed by everyone equally. If you DON'T >>> vote for that, then what we have is more than one forum, and >>> certain topics are either ON or OFF topic in each forum. This is a >>> forum. >>> Religion and Politics either are or are not appropriate here. PERIOD. >>> It is not my choice to make. Listowner? >>> >>>> geesh, grow up people and let's talk about Linux. >>> >>> THANK YOU... my sentiments exactly, and the very reason >>> I protested the religious content. >>> >>> -- >>> Copyright 2003 Angela Kahealani. http://www.kahealani.com/ >>> All Rights Reserved Without Prejudice, UCC 1-207, >>> Non Assumsit, T.D.C. All information and transactions >>> are private between the parties and are non negotiable. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> yellowdog-newbie mailing list >>> yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >>> http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> yellowdog-newbie mailing list >> yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com >> http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie >> > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 13:58:19 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Matt Hanes) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 08:58:19 -0400 Subject: [OT] Re: Monitor problem In-Reply-To: <25A39FC8-9288-11D7-BAEA-000A956871E2@mac.com> References: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030530085322.01fe67e8@mail.iweb.net> At 12:19 PM 5/30/2003 +0200, you wrote: >I side with you but I think calling her 'bitch' isn't the way to go. You should apologize. Hear, hear. >Angela: it seems that you won't quit until everyone agrees with you. ... That's ok, but would you please stop? I would also like to point out that in posts you have made in the past few weeks you have taken the time to scold or people several times for breaches of etiquette, poor spelling and bad grammar. And finally, I quote your email of 3/27/2003, Subject: Black Magick (was: rant) >Me, I enlighten and empower... so I enlighten you to the facts of the >operation of karma, and empower you to cease being a victim, or a victimizer, >by reminding you that IN FACT, YOU ARE a wizard youself, and that you could >apply your skill and energy into creating for yourself and those in your life >a better and more fun reality than "let's play the victim game" that you've >already created with your wizard powers. Let's do keep it on Linux, shall we? Matt From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 14:07:53 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Brook Calverley) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 14:07:53 +0100 Subject: [OT] Re: Monitor problem In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20030530085322.01fe67e8@mail.iweb.net> Message-ID: Wow, I joined this list WAY too late... ;) On 30/5/03 1:58 pm, "Matt Hanes" wrote: >> Me, I enlighten and empower... so I enlighten you to the facts of the >> operation of karma, and empower you to cease being a victim, or a victimizer, >> by reminding you that IN FACT, YOU ARE a wizard youself, and that you could >> apply your skill and energy into creating for yourself and those in your life >> a better and more fun reality than "let's play the victim game" that you've >> already created with your wizard powers. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 13:53:33 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 07:53:33 -0500 Subject: YD3.0 Wireless Inoperative Message-ID: <200305301253.h4UCrX9q014237@web6.bluedomino.net> Good idea. I'll try that this evening. George On Fri, 30 May 2003 06:34 , Andrew McVinnie sent: >Hi George, > >I do not think you have on eeither, though its been a while since I >kept up with iBook specs. > >Have you tried to disable eth0? I seem to recall having to do this >after following the HowTo. >for some reason, I dont think it likes have more than one "eth" --- Msg sent via WebMail@litenverden.com - http://mail.litenverden.com/ From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 14:17:05 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Angela Kahealani) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 03:17:05 -1000 Subject: KMail problem In-Reply-To: <200305300247.45802.angela@kahealani.com> References: <25A39FC8-9288-11D7-BAEA-000A956871E2@mac.com> <200305300247.45802.angela@kahealani.com> Message-ID: <200305300317.05678.angela@kahealani.com> On Fri, 2003-05-30 02:47, Angela Kahealani wrote: > I'm willing to filter out any e-mail whose subject > starts with "[OT]" and not protest them. I shall implement that now. Now I have a bug to report... In KMail on YDL 2.3 I implemented a filter to place into my trash folder any incoming message whose Subject: line contained the string: "[OT]", but I'm continuing to receive e-mail in my inbox that has that in its' Subject. -- Copyright 2003 Angela Kahealani. http://www.kahealani.com/ All Rights Reserved Without Prejudice, UCC 1-207, Non Assumsit, T.D.C. All information and transactions are private between the parties and are non negotiable. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 15:20:07 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Chris Burress) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 09:20:07 -0500 Subject: MOL Message-ID: <002c01c326b6$93ce4ca0$df22d3aa@mps6tvmrtrvlhy> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C3268C.A97D3D60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >Hi, > Is there a way to force the use of the console mode?=20 >It seems to always choose the X window from the basic >install. Thanks. > >Michael Swift You have to set up your configuration files in /etc/mol/. I believe it is /etc/mol/molrc.video. Use something like 'emacs' in = console or 'kate' if you prefer gui and edit the molrc.video config file = as root. Everything is commented out, so it shouldn't be too hard to = figure out. There is a section for Fullscreen. Also, you can turn off = the X11 MOL window if you want to. Once you get that set up, restart MOL = and it should send you straight to console. Switching between the two is = as easy as ctrl-opt-F7 & F8. Chris ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C3268C.A97D3D60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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You have to set up your configuration = files in=20 /etc/mol/.
 
I believe it is /etc/mol/molrc.video. = Use something=20 like 'emacs' in console or 'kate' if you prefer gui and edit the = molrc.video=20 config file as root. Everything is commented out, so it shouldn't be too = hard to=20 figure out. There is a section for Fullscreen. Also, you can turn off = the X11=20 MOL window if you want to. Once you get that set up, restart MOL and it = should=20 send you straight to console. Switching between the two is as easy as=20 ctrl-opt-F7 & F8.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C3268C.A97D3D60-- From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 16:41:27 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Mike Murphree) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 10:41:27 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Trouble finding / on OldWorldMac (PowerBase) Message-ID: <48539.130.76.96.17.1054309287.squirrel@webmail.dogbark.com> I installed my new YDL 3.0 set on a PowerComputing PowerBase last night which went well. Notable changes from standard configuration on the PowerBase is a PowerLogix G3 upgrade and a 4 GB Seagate Barracuda drive on the SCSI bus (no IDE drive). I installed Mac OS 9.1 on a 300 MB HFS partition, and created a 160 MB swap partition and a 3635 MB partition for / with Disk Druid. Using BootX to boot the kernels and the Anaconda installer worked without a hitch. The problem is that when I try to boot the regular kernel, I get a VFS Panic message that it cannot find the / partition. In BootX, I disabled the ramdisk kernel, and specified /dev/sd8 for the / partition as it was marked in Disk Druid. Finding a message in the archives about trouble with a UMAX cpu, I tried downloading and booting that kernel, but the result was the same. Unlike the message about the UMAX cpu, the kernel reported that it found both the SCSI Barracuda hard drive and Toshiba CD-ROM drives, so I don't think that was the problem. Ideas? TIA, Mike From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 16:49:23 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Michael J. E. Swift) Date: 30 May 2003 11:49:23 EDT Subject: Network Error with new kernel Message-ID: <12897828@newdancer.Dartmouth.EDU> Hi, I built myself a new kernel to support some of the additional hardware in my G4 tower, but when the startup sequence starts and tries to setup my "eth0" in the networking part, it fails. When I use the original kernel, it's fine. So I was wondering if anyone knew which options were used to setup the original kernel, so I can use the new kernel. Thanks. Michael Swift From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 17:09:56 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Longman, Bill) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 09:09:56 -0700 Subject: Recover disk partitions on a 3400 Message-ID: It's not booting off ANY disk. It won't boot off the YDL disk, either. It's only trying to boot off the hard disk. Is there some option in OF to get it to boot off the CD? > If I am not mistaken, a powerbook 3400 can not run Mac OS 9.2 > at all. > HTe last supported OS it could run is Mac OS 9.1. Mac OS 9.2 > requires > a G3 or G4. So you will have to boot from a 9.1 CD > > Andy > > > On Thursday, May 29, 2003, at 04:54 PM, Longman, Bill wrote: > > > Thanks, Andy! > > > > It's, um, not booting off the CD, though. I've got a 9.2.1 > CD and it > > doesn't > > even seem to seek on that disk. All I get is the > > QuestionMark-FloppyDisk and > > a whirring sound that repeats every five seconds from the internal > > drive. > > > > I can get to Open Firmware 2.0.1 but that's it. > > > > Where to from here?.... > > > > Bill > > > >> Boot from an OS 8.6 or OS 9.x cd and repartition the hard > >> drive leaving > >> the partition as Unallocated. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 17:33:06 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Longman, Bill) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 09:33:06 -0700 Subject: Monitor problem Message-ID: $ cat plonkfile angela@kahealani.com $ getbacktowork From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 18:19:15 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Daniel Koskinen) Date: 30 May 2003 20:19:15 +0300 Subject: MOL thousands of colors in X-mode In-Reply-To: <002c01c326b6$93ce4ca0$df22d3aa@mps6tvmrtrvlhy> References: <002c01c326b6$93ce4ca0$df22d3aa@mps6tvmrtrvlhy> Message-ID: <1054315154.27945.14.camel@user-46.catv.tpo.fi> I mentioned this in a previous mail, but it probably got lost under all the... erm, other stuff. Is there a way to make MOL display more than 256 colors when displayed in a X11 window while still having only thousands of colors in YDL? Currently if I switch to thousands of colors inside MOL, all I get is really twisted colors. Obviously I could just run MOL in console-mode, but sometimes it would be nice to have the Gnome desktop (+ panel etc) visible. -- Daniel Koskinen email: dani@iki.fi web: http://www.iki.fi/dani From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 20:18:30 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Ron Smith) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 12:18:30 -0700 Subject: YD3.0 Wireless Inoperative In-Reply-To: <000801c32696$af1b2ed0$6900a8c0@Harry> Message-ID: <7F2EE623-92D3-11D7-89B6-003065B10FF6@ydl.net> What do you see when you run /sbin/ifconfig -a ? You should see at least an entry for eth0 (should be the built in ethernet port). If you also see an entry for eth1 then your installation is at least recognizing a second interface (should be the airport card). If so you are at least on the right track. When you try to run the network configuration control panel from KDE (I assume you are using the stock YDL KDE install), do you get an error? There is a fix for the python script error if that is happening to you. I don't remember the name of the file, but by adding the line KEY="" the script will start working. Hope that helps, -Ron On Friday, May 30, 2003, at 03:31 AM, YD wrote: > I have an iBook2 12, 800MHz. I don't THINK I have the Extreme card. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 20:27:31 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Ron Smith) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 12:27:31 -0700 Subject: Recover disk partitions on a 3400 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Although there is a way to boot from the CD from OF, I can't remember it. Hopefully somebody can help you out there, it's been too long since I used an "old world" machine. =( So, just as a due dilligence check, you are holding down the "c" key while booting with the YDL cd in the drive, right? -Ron On Friday, May 30, 2003, at 09:09 AM, Longman, Bill wrote: > It's not booting off ANY disk. It won't boot off the YDL disk, either. > It's > only trying to boot off the hard disk. Is there some option in OF to > get it > to boot off the CD? From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 20:32:44 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Victor Herrera) Date: 30 May 2003 15:32:44 -0400 Subject: YDL on XServe 2003 Message-ID: <1054323166.2574.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hello all I've been trying to install YDL 3.0 on a brand new XServe. The installer fails to see the hard drives. After investigating, I found the following document: http://www.flatfood.org/documentation/xserve/index.en.html It describes kernel and yaboot recompilation on Debian for PPC in order to get the IDE drives to work. I was wondering if somebody has performed a similar maneuver on a 2003 Xserve using YDL 3.0. Any pointers will be very appreciated. For the record, the 2003 XServe is as of now, officially unsupported for YDL. Victor Herrera From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 21:50:09 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Longman, Bill) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 13:50:09 -0700 Subject: Recover disk partitions on a 3400 Message-ID: I've been holding that key down so long, I think it's stuck! Really, I've tried that and I don't know if this is an early model 3400c or what but it just NEVER tries to boot from the CD. I also tried setting various devices in OF as the boot device. Maybe someone who knows the Mac OF device tree can lend a hand here. > Although there is a way to boot from the CD from OF, I can't remember > it. Hopefully somebody can help you out there, it's been too > long since > I used an "old world" machine. =( > > So, just as a due dilligence check, you are holding down the "c" key > while booting with the YDL cd in the drive, right? From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Fri May 30 23:54:34 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (David Purdy) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 15:54:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Monitor In-Reply-To: <7C39041D-9239-11D7-A6FF-0005024794B2@atsecure.net> Message-ID: <20030530225434.24751.qmail@web41113.mail.yahoo.com> Hi: I'm wondering if you made any progress or resolved the problem. As far as a possible fix, you mentioned that my monitor is different from your Wallstreet display. The refresh rate isssue may not apply, but perhaps the resolution issue is central here. Its my guess that if you pico-edit {search on the web about how to use the pico editor} the config file, you'll see a resolution listed, but not the one you want. You could experiment with adding in the resolution that you want. The link that I mentioned in my first email may give you a better idea of how to do it than I am able to. The author gives quite a few details. Vi, pico and emacs are command-line editors common in unix-based systems. They all work about the same. I'm pretty sure that any installation of YDL has all three. It does'nt take long to learn how to use them. Good Luck, Dave Purdy --- jmdennis@atsecure.net wrote: > Just to let you know I have a Wallstreet computer > that I have YDL on. > It was the last one before they went to Pismo. I > have set up the right > video card and also the right resolution. Some of > what you sent me was > for a different monitor then what I had. I just > have the standard > install for desktop so I am not sure if I have vi or > what you have > mentioned that you used. I do not know enough about > these. > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 31 01:56:15 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 17:56:15 -0700 Subject: Monitor problems fixed Message-ID: I went into etc/X11/XF86Config and I found the section the mentions the monitor. I found the DefaultDepth was set to 16 which just allows the 640X480. I changed this to 15 and logged off as root and back on as myself and all is well. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 31 01:57:38 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 17:57:38 -0700 Subject: kppp Message-ID: Does any one know how to use this to probe the modem? I have tried and it has failed. I just have a Wallstreet powerbook with the internal modem. I just want to be able to use the modem so I can get on the internet. From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 31 02:40:01 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (David Purdy) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 18:40:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Monitor problems fixed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030531014001.61327.qmail@web41111.mail.yahoo.com> Awesome! --- jmdennis@atsecure.net wrote: > I went into etc/X11/XF86Config and I found the > section the mentions the > monitor. I found the DefaultDepth was set to 16 > which just allows the > 640X480. I changed this to 15 and logged off as > root and back on as > myself and all is well. > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 31 02:57:17 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Mike Murphree) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 20:57:17 -0500 Subject: Trouble finding / on OldWorldMac (PowerBase) - FIXED! In-Reply-To: <48539.130.76.96.17.1054309287.squirrel@webmail.dogbark.com> Message-ID: <3556B10A-930B-11D7-9255-000393BB4930@tropo.org> On Friday, May 30, 2003, at 10:41 AM, Mike Murphree wrote: > The problem is that when I > try to boot the regular kernel, I get a VFS Panic message that > it cannot find the / partition. In BootX, I disabled the > ramdisk kernel, and specified /dev/sd8 for the / partition as > it was marked in Disk Druid. Finding a message in the archives > about trouble with a UMAX cpu, I tried downloading and booting > that kernel, but the result was the same. Unlike the message > about the UMAX cpu, the kernel reported that it found both > the SCSI Barracuda hard drive and Toshiba CD-ROM drives, so > I don't think that was the problem. Finally was able to read the screen fast enough to determine that the root device needed to be /dev/sda8 for a SCSI drive and now it boots... Mike From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 31 10:18:55 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Goofus) Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 05:18:55 -0400 Subject: iMac RevA Linux --SUCCESS!!! References: <3556B10A-930B-11D7-9255-000393BB4930@tropo.org> Message-ID: Maybe I'm too excited too soon, but I just managed (somehow) to FINALLY get Linux installed and running on my iMac! PROBLEMS & HELP NEEDED: 1. Once in Linux -- can't connect to the internet. Neither of the "found" modems (there's only one modem) will connect, resulting in "the modem did not respond". Error message box reading "/etc/resolv.conf is missing or can't be read!" is telling me to ask the system administrator to create this file, even though I AM the sys admin and logged in as such. 2. Once in Linux -- despite external speakers being plugged in, all sound is being played from the front iMac speakers with NO volume control. Even plugging in headphones on the front jacks doesn't mute anything, nor does it pump audio through the headphones -- this is annoying to my roomates at 4AM. 3. Yaboot won't boot MacOS (9), it's throwing "default catch!" errors -- the only way I can boot to MacOS is through MOL, which presents me with few Mac features. The MacOS is almost useless to me now, but there's still three or four things I need that require the ability to boot directly into it. 4. Can't make the correct time "stick" -- I set my location, set the time, but every reboot puts me five hours behind MY time, even though the correct location is still set/applied/etc... SOMEONE HELP PLEASE! It's taken me three weeks (to the hour) just to get Linux running on this thing, now I've lost MacOS access and can't get Linux on the net to try to update it. I've wasted enough time on this already, I can waste no more. If I can't run both Linux and MacOS 9 on this machine successfully, then I don't need either. Thanks From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 31 13:58:22 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (James A. Ricken) Date: 31 May 2003 07:58:22 -0500 Subject: how to extract packages from .tgz Message-ID: <1054385900.1118.64.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi Does anyone know how to extract package from .tgz? Does anyone know of a antivirus program that I can use on yellowdog 3.0 to scan email? From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 31 14:28:54 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Joe Villari) Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 09:28:54 -0400 Subject: how to extract packages from .tgz References: <1054385900.1118.64.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <3ED8AE16.4000906@pipeline.com> you need to use the tar command. read the man pages for options. type in man tar at the command line prompt. Joe James A. Ricken wrote: > Hi > > Does anyone know how to extract package from .tgz? > > Does anyone know of a antivirus program that I can use on yellowdog 3.0 > to scan email? > > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 31 14:32:58 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Joe Villari) Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 09:32:58 -0400 Subject: kppp References: Message-ID: <3ED8AF0A.6060900@pipeline.com> kppp probe is pretty straight forward. if it is "failing' or not seeing you modem chances are your modem is not a hardware modem. you have two options, one is get a pcmcia hardware modem or try to use the win modem howto on YDL's site. I could never get my internal modem working on my TI powerbook so I use a pcmcia modem I had from an older laptop Joe jmdennis@atsecure.net wrote: > Does any one know how to use this to probe the modem? I have tried and > it has failed. I just have a Wallstreet powerbook with the internal > modem. I just want to be able to use the modem so I can get on the > internet. > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 31 17:17:32 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Paul Green) Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 12:17:32 -0400 Subject: local usb printing problem Message-ID: <623CA68F-9383-11D7-BB91-0003935B6E4C@earthlink.net> Does anyone have an Epson printer that won't print with YDL3.0. I've tried just about everything. Printer works fine under OSX. CUPS finds my printer (Epson Stylus Photo 820) and drivers with no problem. When I send a test page the job is sent but no printing. The queue is 'idle and ready'. Checked the HOW TO's but no help. My guess is fixing this requires a major hack which I'm not sure how to do. I'm thinking of just getting a new printer. Can anyone recommend a fairly cheap printer that works well for you? (< $250). Using a G4. Paul Green From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 31 17:30:25 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (David Roth) Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 09:30:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: local usb printing problem In-Reply-To: <623CA68F-9383-11D7-BB91-0003935B6E4C@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20030531163025.6221.qmail@web11008.mail.yahoo.com> I have a similar problem: Under OSX Cups, I can see and print to my HP 940c. Using a Red Hat Linux, I can see and print to the same printer from an HP. But YDL on my powerbook cannot see or print. The powerbook is a wallstreet, and the USB is via a PC-Card. --- Paul Green wrote: > Does anyone have an Epson printer that won't print > with > YDL3.0. I've tried just about everything. Printer > works fine > under OSX. CUPS finds my printer (Epson Stylus Photo > 820) > and drivers with no problem. When I send a test page > the job is sent but no printing. The queue is 'idle > and ready'. > Checked the HOW TO's but no help. > > My guess is fixing this requires a major hack which > I'm not > sure how to do. I'm thinking of just getting a new > printer. Can > anyone recommend a fairly cheap printer that works > well for you? (< $250). Using a G4. > > Paul Green > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 31 17:43:45 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (David Roth) Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 09:43:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: newbie 3.5 floppy disk drive mount In-Reply-To: <20030531163025.6221.qmail@web11008.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030531164345.48316.qmail@web11002.mail.yahoo.com> What do I do to mount a floppy? mdir shows the contents, but how do I mount it? I have a clean install of ydl 3.0 with the default fstab and mtab [david@194 david]$ mount /dev/fd0 mount: can't find /dev/fd0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab [david@194 david]$ From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 31 18:19:51 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (David Roth) Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 10:19:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: No PCMCIA controller detected newbie powerbook pc card In-Reply-To: <20030531164345.48316.qmail@web11002.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030531171951.72632.qmail@web11001.mail.yahoo.com> I couldn't get my printer to work. Then I noticed the following message while using the KDE control center's Information/PCMCIA tab: No PCMCIA controller detected That would explain why no USB devices showed up! My USB comes from my WallStreet's PCMCIA slots via a USB 2.0 pc card (which works fine under OS X and under OS 9) How do I fix this so it works under YDL 3.0? From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 31 18:44:50 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Dylan Hand) Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 13:44:50 -0400 Subject: how to extract packages from .tgz In-Reply-To: <1054385900.1118.64.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <94478026-938F-11D7-9BD9-000393BE40A6@optonline.net> for tar: tar -xzf -x is Expand -z is Gzip -f is used to set a filename. As for antivirus...come on, you are using a Linux OS, on a PPC even. I doubt you will ever have a problem with viri. On Saturday, May 31, 2003, at 08:58 AM, James A. Ricken wrote: > Hi > > Does anyone know how to extract package from .tgz? > > Does anyone know of a antivirus program that I can use on yellowdog 3.0 > to scan email? > > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 31 19:07:04 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (James A. Ricken) Date: 31 May 2003 13:07:04 -0500 Subject: how to extract packages from .tgz In-Reply-To: <94478026-938F-11D7-9BD9-000393BE40A6@optonline.net> References: <94478026-938F-11D7-9BD9-000393BE40A6@optonline.net> Message-ID: <1054404423.7710.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, 2003-05-31 at 12:44, Dylan Hand wrote: > for tar: > > tar -xzf > -x is Expand > -z is Gzip > -f is used to set a filename. > > As for antivirus...come on, you are using a Linux OS, on a PPC even. I > doubt you will ever have a problem with viri. > Thanks for the input Dylan,I should have knew better than to ask a question like that on viruses. > > On Saturday, May 31, 2003, at 08:58 AM, James A. Ricken wrote: > > > Hi > > > > Does anyone know how to extract package from .tgz? > > > > Does anyone know of a antivirus program that I can use on yellowdog 3.0 > > to scan email? > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > > > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie > From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 31 19:34:32 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (James A. Ricken) Date: 31 May 2003 13:34:32 -0500 Subject: how to use samba Message-ID: <1054406071.7710.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> I have 2 macs running ydl 3.0 and they are on a home network. How do you configure Samba,I would like to share files with the 2 macs From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 31 19:51:20 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Hans P Jueng) Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 12:51:20 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Hello Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 12:50:22 -0600 (MDT) From: Hans P Jueng To: yellodog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Cc: hjueng@unm.edu Subject: Hello Hello Folks, I just installed the Yellowdog 3.0 on a G4 PPC and had two problems that disappointed me. First, in the install I was asked which I wanted as my "default" OS - I chose Linux, but now it only gives me a Linux or CD boot prompt, why does it not recognize the OS X right off the bat? Second - I tested the sound and it works and so I popped in a CD and brought up KSCD - while it seems to be playing no sound. I used this same product on Mandrake and it works. I keep moving around but everyone's PPC distribution is wanting - I guess I expected more from Yellowdog. The more I played with the sound - trying to use "artsd" the worse it got. Now, the system boot and tells me it could not find sound - the solution being to open the mixer and "move" one of the adjusters, a strange fix. Any suggestions, Hans From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 31 19:01:42 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Oscar G. Maldonado) Date: 31 May 2003 13:01:42 -0500 Subject: newbie 3.5 floppy disk drive mount In-Reply-To: <20030531180105.5DBE61FB95@newhope.terraplex.com> References: <20030531180105.5DBE61FB95@newhope.terraplex.com> Message-ID: <1054404100.1029.12.camel@imac.burodigital.com.mx.mshome.net> El sáb, 31 de 05 de 2003 a las 13:01, yellowdog-newbie-request@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com escribiķ: > What do I do to mount a floppy? First, what kind of floppy do you have ?, I'll presume that you have an USB one, so make your mount point like: /mnt/floppy When you connect an USB device like a floppy drive it's mapped to the first free SCSI device (or at least that's what I think, please some one correct me if I'm wrong...), that's why the place to look for your mount point it's /dev/sda > > mdir shows the contents, but how do I mount it? > > I have a clean install of ydl 3.0 with the default > fstab and mtab > > [david@194 david]$ mount /dev/fd0 > mount: can't find /dev/fd0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab > [david@194 david]$ Next let's mount your device by put: mount -t iso9660 /dev/sda /mnt/floppy Type Device Mount point That's it, your floppy should be now accessed by ls /mnt/floppy Hope this will help you... From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 31 20:15:05 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com) Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 15:15:05 EDT Subject: how do i format a floppy disk? Message-ID: <167.210707ab.2c0a5939@aol.com> From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 31 22:11:44 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (David Roth) Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 14:11:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: No PCMCIA controller detected newbie powerbook pc card In-Reply-To: <20030531171951.72632.qmail@web11001.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030531211144.95509.qmail@web11001.mail.yahoo.com> I just tried a standard install of Mandrake 9.1 and both my PCMCIA card and my printer worked right away. YellowDog staff: perhaps there's a change you could make to the default settings? But still no joy for floppy drive under mandrake 9.1 or ydl 3.0 --- David Roth wrote: > I couldn't get my printer to work. > > Then I noticed the following message while using the > KDE control center's Information/PCMCIA tab: > > No PCMCIA controller detected > > > That would explain why no USB devices showed up! My > USB comes from my WallStreet's PCMCIA slots via a > USB > 2.0 pc card (which works fine under OS X and under > OS > 9) How do I fix this so it works under YDL 3.0? > > > _______________________________________________ > yellowdog-newbie mailing list > yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com > http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-newbie From yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com Sat May 31 23:27:17 2003 From: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com (Antonio Netzer) Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 17:27:17 -0500 (CDT) Subject: 2.3 - 3.0 apt-get upgrade worked, but...... In-Reply-To: <20030531211144.95509.qmail@web11001.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I succesfully upgraded from 2.3 using apt-get as told here , THANKS now when i try to use apt-get upgrade it comes out with lines such as warning: /var/cache/apt/archives/cups_1_%3a1.1.17-13.3_ppc.rpm: V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key id aeb6b9c4 error: /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-libs..........ppc.rpm: V3 DSA signature: BAD, key id aeb6b9c4 error: /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome_libs..........ppc.rpm cannot be installed . . . . . E: Sub-process /bin/rpm returned an error code(3) and it stops there similiar thing happens when i use synaptic, but worse, becuse synaptice uninstalls some stuff, for example, i've been trying to install open office and koffice, but it runs into problems and when i log out and in again, kde_base is uninstalled and I go into gnome..... so i have to reinstall kde maybe removing all rpms from /var/cache/apt/archives ?????? d/l all again and try to install everything again as in the instructions???? other than that, i almost got all the other apps needed for basic use xmms, gaim, mozilla, that's pretty much what these guys use, all i need is to get the word processing in and i can take a vacation but so far, i'm happy with this version on linux... again my conf 7300 w/g3 400mhz, 308mb, ati vr xclaim, ide controller card, firewire/usb card (haven't tested the external burner yet..)