unable to install Klash in Konquereror cannot view flash web sites.

Thu Oct 26 20:21:11 MDT 2006

Bill, you have my sincere compassion. 

Although, Cian's recommendation is something I would normally just agree 
with, I cannot do so this time.  The problem is the design of the Mac 
8500 itself.  It was constructed with a 604 chip.  You can see the 
details here:

http://macspeedzone.com/archive/html/hardw/by_mac/apple/a/8500_150.html

This is not the only problem, unfortunately Bill, for you it does get 
worse.  There is an old article where Kai Staats, the CEO of TSS, is 
interviewed discussing many details including which Macs YDL 4 will work 
with.  Here is that link:

http://www.macnewsworld.com/story/34647.html

The section of the interview of interest in this discussion is here:

Mac News World: ... will YDL 4 run on ancient Macs that cannot take 
advantage of OS X?
Staats: ... Yellow Dog Linux 4.0 ... supports USB-G3 through dual G5 
Power Mac Towers.

Using this information let's go back and review the details listed at 
macspeedzone where the ports are listed.  You will see for yourself that 
there are no USB ports listed at all for this machine.  The possibility 
of adding USB ports via various connections doesn't really help in this 
case.

Although the Mac 8500 can theoretically be upgraded to a G3 or G4, the 
Mac News World article is clear that YDL 4 was designed to operate with 
a USB G3 or expressed differently, a native G3 system which originally 
was constructed containing USB ports.

The best option may be to move up to YDL 3 and as long as you have that 
Mac 8500, that version of YDL may be as high as you can go.  Here's the 
official link from TSS discussing that possibility:

http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/support/hardware/others.shtml

One last problem, if you click upon the link on that page -- Guide to 
Installation -- looking for the guide for installing YDL 3.0.  It has 
been removed from that page.
However I have a copy if you need it.

Now the problem is how to get YDL 3.0?

You will have to go to one of the TSS mirrors find the iso of each file 
download each iso and burn a CD.  Each YDL 3.0 iso is 500-600+ MB.  You 
will need a broadband connection to make even one download tolerable.

Other problems:  The original MacOS which came with that Mac doesn't 
know about burning CDs.  However, if you move up to Mac OS9 that should 
take care of that problem, also you may need to find a CD rewriteable 
drive which OS 9 can understand.  And you will need to find CD burning 
software which Mac OS 9 can use.  Perhaps the people at Mac Speed Zone 
can help you there.  It would be a good idea to ask them what 
application you can use which can run a md5sum test so that you can 
verify that each iso file was downloaded correctly.  The md5sum values 
for each iso is published in the file called md5sum. 

Bill, here is something you really need to look at clearly.  The money 
you may have to spend just to make it this far may not be worth spending 
as it just may add up to saving up to purchase a PS 3 with YDL 5 (or the 
difference may be so close that saving up for the PS3 may actually be 
better as that system and associated components will
maintain their value for a number of years yet.  However, these 
purchases associated with getting the 8500 to do these things well, you 
alone will be the judge whether it's worth it for you.

This particular link:  http://yellowdog.open-mirror.com/

will take you to a page where a folder called iso will be present.  Just 
click upon the iso folder and you will be on the webpage where the isos 
are located in this particular mirror. 

Good Luck...
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Bill Perrotta wrote:
> Well I will try to install yellowdog 3.01 if you can tell me how to 
> get my old world 8500 p-mac to read the sit file. but there is no way 
> to get the 4 versions on the 8500 far as i know. Netscape comes with 
> stuffit expander but it won't open the sit.
> Macromedia sucks then I'm probably dead in the water there. question 
> can mac on linux run on yellowdog 2.1?
>
> */Cian Duffy <myob87 at gmail.com>/* wrote:
>
>
>
>     On 27/10/06, *Bill Perrotta* <billperrotta at yahoo.com
>     <mailto:billperrotta at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
>         I can't go to any Flash web sites which is most sites.
>         I tried a ./configure but there are to many dependencies.
>         What I need is a step by step how to, To install the Klash
>         plugin in konqueror.
>         I am using Konqueror 2.2.1 on yellowdog 2.1. Please be
>         detailed as possible I am new to Linux and even newer to
>         Yellowdog. Stuck without shockwave flash alternative.
>
>
>
>     There are some somewhat capable Flash alternatives, however, none
>     are going to work on something as old as YDL 2.x. swfdec and gnash
>     are capable of handing some sites as a browser plugin but they
>     aren't likely to work on anything before 4.0. 2.x is from an
>     entirely different era, technology wise.
>
>     Cian
>
>         Help is appreciated,
>                                       Bill
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