Mac-On-Mac Development.

Hex Star hexstar at gmail.com
Tue Jan 17 08:38:22 MST 2006


Oh yeah...damn I forgot that most other MacOSes are PPC only :-(....yeah,
continuing development of Mac on Mac would be great but won't the Mac on Mac
team be faced with the same issue of having to emulate PPC for some MacOSes
as well?

On 1/17/06, Steven McGrath <steven.mcgrath at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I would actually assume the opposite.  It may well run x86 based
> operating systems, however as always noted on other PC platforms, it's
> just not worth emulating m68k or PPC under an intel proc.  Rosetta
> doesn't tie in well enough for them to do this using it, so they would
> be stuck with more conventional means.  And lastly, VMWare has NEVER
> emulated, only virtualized.  It's what they count on for their speed.
>
> On 1/16/06, Hex Star <hexstar at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Well who knows if it's actually worth continuing the development of
> > this..since there are rumors that VMware has a version of their software
> > being developed for intel OS X, and I'd assume that it'd not only be
> capable
> > of running any Windows OS or x86 Linux distro, but all the MacOSes as
> > well...
> >
> >
> > On 1/16/06, Steven McGrath <steven.mcgrath at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I guess my point is that for a signifigant Intel userbase to build, it
> > > will take a couple of years.  During that timeframe do we just accept
> > > that there is nothing to fill this space?  Or get a few people who
> > > would be willing to look at it, and get this thing hammered out.  I
> > > fail to beleive that there could be that drastic an issue with the
> > > 10.4 kernel that it can't be ironed out.
> > >
> > > On 1/15/06, Sebastian Gregorzyk <bastihome at gmx.net> wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > the problem with 10.4 compatibility is memory allocation.
> > > > Check out version v0.21 on sourceforge which compiles
> > > > one Tiger with GCC4 and even boots up but crashes while
> > > > allocating the memory. I don't understand the design
> > > > principles of the Mac-on-Linux kernel module so all
> > > > I could do is trial and error. What I guess you have
> > > > to figure out is how memory allocation is done in the
> > > > 10.3 kernel module and how it is supposed to be
> > > > done on the 10.4 kernel (darwin > 8.0). I know it
> > > > is not Samuels job to do the OS X port but it would
> > > > helped me much if he supplied some documentation.
> > > > Adding audio and ethernet support to the os x port
> > > > is not a big problem after all. But unless there is no G5
> > > > support in the MOL module I don't see the sense.
> > > > And while we are seeing an increasing Intel Mac
> > > > userbase MoL and MoM becomes less and less
> > > > significant anyway.
> > > >
> > > >         -Sebastian
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 1/12/06, Steven McGrath <steven.mcgrath at gmail.com > wrote:
> > > >  >Well, I have plenty of webspace at my site on chigeek.com.  All I
> am
> > > >  >looking for is coders.  The main obsticle is the kernel
> driver.  It
> > > >  >simply needs to be updated for 10.4.  From there we can start to
> work
> > > >  >on other aspects, like sound and networking.
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