Mac-On-Mac Development.

[Steven McGrath]

Well thats something that would more than likely have to be faced in
the future.  However PPC will still be a majority share of the Mac
community for years to come yet.  Also, if things can be coded in a
archetecture-neutral fashion, then the need for something like VMWare
may drop away as well.

On 1/17/06, Hex Star <hexstar at gmail.com> wrote:
> Oh yeah...damn I forgot that most other MacOSes are PPC only :-(....yeah,
> continuing development of Mac on Mac would be great but won't the Mac on Mac
> team be faced with the same issue of having to emulate PPC for some MacOSes
> as well?
>
>
> On 1/17/06, Steven McGrath <steven.mcgrath at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I would actually assume the opposite.  It may well run x86 based
> > operating systems, however as always noted on other PC platforms, it's
> > just not worth emulating m68k or PPC under an intel proc.  Rosetta
> > doesn't tie in well enough for them to do this using it, so they would
> > be stuck with more conventional means.  And lastly, VMWare has NEVER
> > emulated, only virtualized.  It's what they count on for their speed.
> >
> > On 1/16/06, Hex Star <hexstar at gmail.com > wrote:
> > > Well who knows if it's actually worth continuing the development of
> > > this..since there are rumors that VMware has a version of their software
> > > being developed for intel OS X, and I'd assume that it'd not only be
> capable
> > > of running any Windows OS or x86 Linux distro, but all the MacOSes as
> > > well...
> > >
> > >
> > > On 1/16/06, Steven McGrath <steven.mcgrath at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I guess my point is that for a signifigant Intel userbase to build, it
> > > > will take a couple of years.  During that timeframe do we just accept
> > > > that there is nothing to fill this space?  Or get a few people who
> > > > would be willing to look at it, and get this thing hammered out.  I
> > > > fail to beleive that there could be that drastic an issue with the
> > > > 10.4 kernel that it can't be ironed out.
> > > >
> > > > On 1/15/06, Sebastian Gregorzyk <bastihome at gmx.net> wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > the problem with 10.4 compatibility is memory allocation.
> > > > > Check out version v0.21 on sourceforge which compiles
> > > > > one Tiger with GCC4 and even boots up but crashes while
> > > > > allocating the memory. I don't understand the design
> > > > > principles of the Mac-on-Linux kernel module so all
> > > > > I could do is trial and error. What I guess you have
> > > > > to figure out is how memory allocation is done in the
> > > > > 10.3 kernel module and how it is supposed to be
> > > > > done on the 10.4 kernel (darwin > 8.0). I know it
> > > > > is not Samuels job to do the OS X port but it would
> > > > > helped me much if he supplied some documentation.
> > > > > Adding audio and ethernet support to the os x port
> > > > > is not a big problem after all. But unless there is no G5
> > > > > support in the MOL module I don't see the sense.
> > > > > And while we are seeing an increasing Intel Mac
> > > > > userbase MoL and MoM becomes less and less
> > > > > significant anyway.
> > > > >
> > > > >         -Sebastian
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 1/12/06, Steven McGrath < steven.mcgrath at gmail.com > wrote:
> > > > >  >Well, I have plenty of webspace at my site on chigeek.com.  All I
> am
> > > > >  >looking for is coders.  The main obsticle is the kernel driver.
> It
> > > > >  >simply needs to be updated for 10.4.  From there we can start to
> work
> > > > >  >on other aspects, like sound and networking.
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