NOTE! - Different kernels on OldWorld Macs

Thomas Kuehner yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
Wed May 14 09:56:02 2003


Hi Alexander

> 
> BTW, how did you get the miboot version from BootX 1.2.2 to boot?
> Yesterday, I tried to get it to boot, but my Mac refused to accept any
> combination of System and Finder and or miBoot.img as a bootable


I forgot to mention that the cretor type of the "Finder" file has to be
changed to "MACS" to make it work.... Sorry.

This you can do with Apple Scripteditor while bootet from a Mac OS 9 CD:


tell application "Finder" to set creator type of (choose file with prompt
"Choose the miBoot-Finder file:") to "MACS"



Thomas

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> 1. gnome-theme-manager bug in YDL3? (Mark J de Jong)
> 2. Re: Apple Studio Display (17" LCD) woes... (Jeffrey Windsor)
> 3. Re: Experimental kernel w/ HFS+ suppor (Dylan Hand)
> 4. YDL 3.0 video issues on 15" LCD G4 PowerMac (cont.) (Alessandro
> Cucchiarelli)
> 5. Errors starting services in YDL 3.0 (Max Wiberg)
> 6. Re: Different kernels on OldWorld Macs (Rick Sheridan)
> 7. [Fwd: Re: Apple Studio Display (17" LCD) woes...] (Patrick Smith)
> 8. Re: Apple Studio Display (17" LCD) woes... (Romeyn Prescott)
> 9. Hello!  (And a question about the new experimental kernel) (Ben Hall)
> 10. Re: PowerBook sleep (AngusM.Macdonald)
> 11. Re: Different kernels on OldWorld Macs (Alexander Holst)
> 12. Re: PowerBook sleep (S.M.Kelly)
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> Message: 1
> Subject: gnome-theme-manager bug in YDL3?
> From: Mark J de Jong <dejongm@secdog.com>
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> Date: 14 May 2003 08:49:18 -0400
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> 
> Hello,
> Gnome theme manager in YDL3 seems a bit buggy. Upon opening it the theme
> previews are distorted and the option for "Custom theme" does not appear
> unless a new theme has been installed. I've reinstalled the control
> center but no luck. Any suggestions or might this be a bug?
> 
> Thanks,
> -- 
> Mark J. de Jong
> ,.,.,.,...,.,,.,..,.,....,.,..,.,..,.,.,,.,...,..,,...
> Base 8 is just like base 10, if you are missing two fingers.
> -- Tom Lehrer
> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 22:09:49 -0600
> Subject: Re: Apple Studio Display (17" LCD) woes...
> Cc: Patrick Smith <patsmith@pobox.com>
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> From: Jeffrey Windsor <windsor@mac.com>
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> 
> Romeyn,
> 
> On the line which currently reads
> 
> append="hdc=ide-scsi"
> 
> you might try changing it to read
> 
> append="hdc=ide-scsi video=ofonly"
> 
> Which will use the most basic, default boot text format. It's worth a
> shot.
> 
> --jw
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, May 13, 2003, at 09:53 PM, Romeyn Prescott wrote:
> 
>> At 11:10 PM -0400 5/13/03, Patrick Smith scribbled:
>>> Romeyn Prescott wrote:
>>>> Now the NEXT hurdle is WHERE can I tweak YDL to display properly
>>>> in-between the yaboot menu and GDM?  You'll recall that this only
>>>> shows when I installed with the 17" attached.  I installed with the
>>>> 15" attached and when I hook up the 17" and reboot, I see NOTHING.
>>>> Where is THAT setting stored?
>>> 
>>> Do you see the two boot prompts from yaboot and then nothing once the
>>> kernel starts?  Or nothing ever?
>>> 
>>> Take a look in /etc/yaboot.conf; do you see "video=" anywhere?  If
>>> so, what comes after the equals sign?
>>> 
>>> Here's an experiment to try:
>>> 
>>> Be sure your system is set to boot into text mode, not into X11.
>>> Attach the 17" and reboot.  Wait long enough to be sure the system
>>> has reached the login prompt.  Then (typing slowly and being careful
>>> not to make mistakes, because you can't see what you type on the
>>> screen), log in as root and run this command:
>>> 
>>> fbset 1280x1024-60
>>> 
>>> (Before trying this, maybe you should make sure you actually have the
>>> fbset command installed.)
>>> 
>>> And what video card do you have?
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> Here's my yaboot.conf:
>> -----
>> boot=/dev/hdb9
>> device=/pci@f2000000/mac-io@17/ata-4@1f000/disk@1:
>> init-message="Welcome to Yellow Dog Linux!\nHit <TAB> for boot
>> options.\n\n"
>> partition=11
>> timeout=30
>> install=/usr/lib/yaboot/yaboot
>> magicboot=/usr/lib/yaboot/ofboot
>> default=linux
>> 
>> image=/boot/vmlinux-2.4.20-8d
>> label=linux
>> root=/dev/hdb11
>> read-only
>> initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.20-8d.img
>> append="hdc=ide-scsi"
>> 
>> defaultos=linux
>> delay=10
>> -----
>> 
>> I think I tried the fbset thingy as part of my process per your
>> earlier suggestion to this list (in response to my earlier attempts at
>> this...thanks!) with no success.  I see the first two menus from
>> yaboot and then nothing once the kernel starts.  I saw all of this
>> stuff after installing with the 17" attached, so clearly there's
>> something somewhere that can be set to allow this to happen.
>> 
>> I have an ATI Rage 128 w/16MB RAM, I think...
>> 
>> ...ROMeyn
>> -- 
>> http://www2.potsdam.edu/prescor/signat-url.htm
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 15:03:55 +0500
> From: Dylan Hand <thinkdif@optonline.net>
> Subject: Re: Experimental kernel w/ HFS+ suppor
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> Organization:
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> 
> Hey, thanks for the kernel, HFS+ works great. However, I cannot get the
> source to compile a new kernel, first the "make xconfig" doesn't compile
> and then some of the modules don't compile later on. Any ideas?
> 
> Dylan
> 
> 
> On Wed, 2003-05-14 at 04:00, Dan Burcaw wrote:
>> I've put together rpms of 2.4.21 RC2 with the HFS+ patch that
>> was recently posted.  While this is a prerelease, feel free to
>> give it a try. 
>> 
>> http://stage.terraplex.com/~dburcaw/kernel-2.4.21-0.98a.ppc.rpm
>> 
>> or the SMP variety:
>> http://stage.terraplex.com/~dburcaw/kernel-smp-2.4.21-0.98a.ppc.rpm
>> 
>> 
>> Source tree:
>> http://stage.terraplex.com/~dburcaw/kernel-source-2.4.21-0.98a.ppc.rpm
>> 
>> If you have problems, let me know.
>> 
>> -D
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 12:51:19 +0200
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> From: Alessandro Cucchiarelli <alex@inform.unian.it>
> Subject: YDL 3.0 video issues on 15" LCD G4 PowerMac (cont.)
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> 
> Trying to fix the problem stated in my previous mail, I used an old
> kernel version (2.4.19-4a as shipped with YDL 2.3).
> As result, the graphical environment now works fine.
> 
> So, is the new kernel broken in some part, or I need to send it video
> parameters at startup (not properly set in yaboot.conf generated by
> the installer)?
> 
> Help appreciated.
> 
> Alex
> 
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> 
> Message: 5
> Subject: Errors starting services in YDL 3.0
> From: Max Wiberg <max.wiberg@psy.umu.se>
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> Organization: Department of psychology
> Date: 14 May 2003 15:09:50 +0200
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> 
> Have an Grey G4 AGP-100 with swedish mac-keyboard and swedish installed
> version of YDL3.
> 
> Machine is triple-boot, with macOS X & Mac OS 9 on /dev/hda/
> and YDL3 on /dev/hdb.
> 
> The installation went fine, but I get the following errors when booting
> up:
> 
> 1) Cant update /etc/fstab
> ( cant boot into OS X just yet - I know how to fix this)
> 
> 2) Cant load systemfont
> 
> 3) Cant load/find se-fi-lat6.kmap
> ( what the f..k is that - I have maybe se-lat1.kmap )
> 
> 4) Cant load/find keyboard layout.
> 
> Keyboard works fine i X-Windows except for  "back-slash" and the
> "pipe"  symbols. The meta keys dont seem work properly either.
> 
> Keyboard in tty1  ( before graphical login into X ) is american keyboard
> layout.  Pipe & back-slash exists.
> 
> 
> 
> Where do the system load the keyboard-maps at startup, which files do I
> take a look at, to resolve this.
> 
> Cheers:  max!
> 
> 
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> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 06:43:47 -0700
> Subject: Re: Different kernels on OldWorld Macs
> From: Rick Sheridan <thunder@ccountry.net>
> To: <yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com>
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> 
> On 5/14/03 5:28 AM, "Thomas Kuehner" <macgix@macgix-services.com> wrote:
> 
> I am sure that some one would compile a kernel for you.  Make a conf file
> just the way you would want it, but I would think you have plenty of
> resources available on your machine. 1.2GB available is a lot.
> 
> What you might try is installing the BenH OldWorld SCSI kernel
> (linux-powermac-ow-scsi-2.4.20-benh), then upgrading MOL with the lates from
> MOL's site.  That should resolve the header config problem
> 
> Are you sure you updated your module dependancies?  It sounds silly, but I
> have seen many, myself included, forget to do a simple 'depmod -a'.  Try
> modprobe?
> 
>> IMHO Linux is most interesting for OldWorld Macs, more less for a G4 that
>> ships with Mac OS X...
> 
> I agree completely.  I've often wondered why Linux on PPC developers so
> easily forget the needs of the Old World Mac users, although YDL 3.0 seems
> greatly improved.  I am at a loss why someone would want to triple boot any
> machine (except for software development).  YDL 3.0 with MOL on an OW Mac
> with OS 9.1 is truly awesome.
> 
> 
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> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 10:13:45 -0400
> From: Patrick Smith <patsmith@pobox.com>
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> Subject: [Fwd: Re: Apple Studio Display (17" LCD) woes...]
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> 
> (I had meant to send this reply to the list, but by accident sent it
> just to Romeyn, so am now forwarding it to the list...)
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: Apple Studio Display (17" LCD) woes...
> Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 09:45:53 -0400
> From: Patrick Smith <patsmith@pobox.com>
> To: Romeyn Prescott <prescor@digirom.potsdam.edu>
> 
> Romeyn Prescott wrote:
>> Here's my yaboot.conf:
>> -----
>> boot=/dev/hdb9
>> device=/pci@f2000000/mac-io@17/ata-4@1f000/disk@1:
>> init-message="Welcome to Yellow Dog Linux!\nHit <TAB> for boot
>> options.\n\n"
>> partition=11
>> timeout=30
>> install=/usr/lib/yaboot/yaboot
>> magicboot=/usr/lib/yaboot/ofboot
>> default=linux
>> 
>> image=/boot/vmlinux-2.4.20-8d
>> label=linux
>> root=/dev/hdb11
>> read-only
>> initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.20-8d.img
>> append="hdc=ide-scsi"
>> 
>> defaultos=linux
>> delay=10
> ...
>> I have an ATI Rage 128 w/16MB RAM, I think...
> 
> Same as mine.  Let's double check... when you run this command:
> 
> grep 128 /proc/pci
> 
> does the output look like it's describing that card?
> 
> 
> 
> Assuming you do indeed have a Rage 128, try this:
> 
> Add the following lines to the end of /etc/yaboot.conf:
> 
> image=/boot/vmlinux-2.4.20-8d
> label=17
> root=/dev/hdb11
> read-only
> initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.20-8d.img
> append="hdc=ide-scsi video=aty128fb:1280x1024@60"
> 
> Run the command
> 
> ybin
> 
> Reboot normally with the 15" still attached; everything should be fine.
> 
> Shutdown, attach the 17", and start up the computer.  At the second boot
> prompt, type
> 
> 17
> 
> This should get text mode working.  (X is another story.)
> 
> 
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 10:14:50 -0400
> To: Patrick Smith <patsmith@pobox.com>
> From: Romeyn Prescott <prescor@digirom.potsdam.edu>
> Subject: Re: Apple Studio Display (17" LCD) woes...
> Cc: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> 
> *sniff*
> 
> It works!!!
> 
> All I did was append the video= thingy as you detail below and both
> console AND X work!!
> 
> WOW!
> 
> Insanely happy,
> ...ROMeyn
> 
> 
> 
> At 9:45 AM -0400 5/14/03, Patrick Smith scribbled:
>> Romeyn Prescott wrote:
>>> Here's my yaboot.conf:
>>> -----
>>> boot=/dev/hdb9
>>> device=/pci@f2000000/mac-io@17/ata-4@1f000/disk@1:
>>> init-message="Welcome to Yellow Dog Linux!\nHit <TAB> for boot options.\n\n"
>>> partition=11
>>> timeout=30
>>> install=/usr/lib/yaboot/yaboot
>>> magicboot=/usr/lib/yaboot/ofboot
>>> default=linux
>>> image=/boot/vmlinux-2.4.20-8d
>>> label=linux
>>> root=/dev/hdb11
>>> read-only
>>> initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.20-8d.img
>>> append="hdc=ide-scsi"
>>> defaultos=linux
>>> delay=10
>> ...
>>> I have an ATI Rage 128 w/16MB RAM, I think...
>> 
>> Same as mine.  Let's double check... when you run this command:
>> 
>> grep 128 /proc/pci
>> 
>> does the output look like it's describing that card?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Assuming you do indeed have a Rage 128, try this:
>> 
>> Add the following lines to the end of /etc/yaboot.conf:
>> 
>> image=/boot/vmlinux-2.4.20-8d
>> label=17
>> root=/dev/hdb11
>> read-only
>> initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.20-8d.img
>> append="hdc=ide-scsi video=aty128fb:1280x1024@60"
>> 
>> Run the command
>> 
>> ybin
>> 
>> Reboot normally with the 15" still attached; everything should be fine.
>> 
>> Shutdown, attach the 17", and start up the computer.  At the second
>> boot prompt, type
>> 
>> 17
>> 
>> This should get text mode working.  (X is another story.)
> 
> -- 
> http://www2.potsdam.edu/prescor/signat-url.htm
> 
> 
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> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 10:57:26 -0400
> From: Ben Hall <hallb@biology.queensu.ca>
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> Subject: Hello!  (And a question about the new experimental kernel)
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> 
> Hello there,
> 
> I'd like to start off by thanking all of the contributors to this list.
> While I've been using Linux since '97, I'm brand new to PPC.  The list
> archives have already been an invaluable resource.
> 
> Now, on to my question.  I just installed the experimental kernel
> packages listed here onto my iBook2.  The kernel works great, hfsplus as
> promised, but it's taken out kudzu.  If I leave kudzu in the init
> scripts it just sits there on boot up and never gets past it.  I had to
> log in single user mode and remove kudzu from starting on bootup.  Amy
> ideas?
> 
> Thanks for the help, and thanks for the updated kernel!
> 
> Ben
> 
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 11:02:22 -0400
> Subject: Re: PowerBook sleep
> From: Angus M.Macdonald <amm@am-cor.com>
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> 
> This happens to me quite alot as well. No video or ssh access on wake
> from sleep...I can hear the hard drive whirring, however.
> 
> 
>> Subject: Re: PowerBook sleep
>> From: "S.M.Kelly" <SMKSensei@mac.com>
>> To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
>> Organization:
>> Date: 11 May 2003 08:07:16 -0400
>> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> On Sat, 2003-05-10 at 16:08, BruceMillerPhoto@aol.com wrote:
>> 
>>> To put your Powerbook to sleep in YDL3, press the POWER button.  You
>>> will see
>>> "putting to sleep" dialog box momentarily and then instantaneous
>>> sleep.
>>> Pulsing light upon closing lid.  Wake by tapping space bar.  Same
>>> suggestion
>>> I gave at newbies!
>> 
>> Well, you are right about it going right to sleep, no problem there.
>> However, like myself, it wouldn't respond when it was supposed to wake
>> up....yawn.  When I tapped the space bar, all I got was the pulsing
>> light stopped, but no video.  Nothing, no response.  I had to power off
>> to recover.  Any more ideas anyone?
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> S.M.Kelly
>> =============================
>> SMKSensei@Mac.com
>> "A Windows professional who uses a Mac running Linux."
> 
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 17:31:23 +0200
> Subject: Re: Different kernels on OldWorld Macs
> From: Alexander Holst <holst@fh-pforzheim.de>
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> 
> 
> Am Mittwoch, 14.05.03, um 14:30 Uhr (Europe/Berlin) schrieb
> yellowdog-general-request@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com:
> 
>> Message: 11
>> Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 14:28:49 +0200
>> Subject: Different kernels on OldWorld Macs
>> From: Thomas Kuehner <macgix@macgix-services.com>
>> To: <yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com>
>> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
>> 
>> Hi all
>> 
>> today I tested different kernels with the UMAX S900 (PPC 8500). Here
>> are the
>> results:
>> 
>> [... snip ...]
>> 
>> * The best kernel I'd ever run was the one that shipped with YDL 2.3
>> 
>> Id did all internal and additional ethernet, US-SCSI and Ultra-ATA
>> support,
>> and the world was fine.
>> 
>> I do not understand, why the YDL-people removed this features, really I
>> don't.
> 
> The stock YDL 3.0 kernel works on my PM7500/100 flawlessly, including
> onboard MACE ehternet as well as both onboard SCSI controllers (they
> are 10 and 5 M/sec controllers only though)
> 
>> It would be pleasant, if thy could offer a recompiled 2.4.20-8d kernel
>> including all the missing support.
>> 
>> IMHO Linux is most interesting for OldWorld Macs, more less for a G4
>> that
>> ships with Mac OS X...
>> 
>> 
>> Best guess: Recompiling 2.4.20-8d with adding the missing modules by
>> myself.
>> - On a 233 MhZ 604e machine with 1,2 GB drive space left??? Funny, he.
> 
> Should work, I do compile NuBus kernels on my Performa 5200/75MHz - it
> takes time, but other than that, no issues so far ;) Your 233 MHz 604e
> should be a lot faster than my Performa. It usually takes about 3-4
> hours on my Performa, but hey. My next attempt will be to get a BOOT
> kernel for my Performa, so I can install YDL 3.0 on it ;)
> 
> Greetings,
> Alex
> 
> Alexander Holst
> Pforzheim University of Applied Sciences
> <holst@fh-pforzheim.de>
> ph: +49 [0]7231 28-6837
> fx: +49 [0]7231 28-6040
> 
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 12
> Subject: Re: PowerBook sleep
> From: "S.M.Kelly" <SMKSensei@mac.com>
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> Organization: 
> Date: 14 May 2003 11:33:36 -0400
> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> 
> 
> --=-eS3bHObmfl9oGhNa2vRC
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> 
> Actually, I figured this out.  you need to find the userbin/snooze file
> while under root and select properties.  Check the setuid option.  This
> will enable snooze in KDE.  So far, it has worked great.  I found it is
> best if I close all my open applications first.  Also note that snooze
> recovery takes a few seconds, be patient, and like "Hitchhiker's Guide"
> says in friendly letters on the back, "Don't Panic."  It'll work......
> I hope.
> 
> If I can answer any other questions, let me know.  I'm certainly no
> expert, but I'm finding my way around slowly.
> 
> SMK
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 2003-05-14 at 11:02, Angus M.Macdonald wrote:
> 
>> This happens to me quite alot as well. No video or ssh access on wake
>> from sleep...I can hear the hard drive whirring, however.
>> 
>> 
>>> Subject: Re: PowerBook sleep
>>> From: "S.M.Kelly" <SMKSensei@mac.com>
>>> To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
>>> Organization:
>>> Date: 11 May 2003 08:07:16 -0400
>>> Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> Content-Type: text/plain
>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>>> 
>>> On Sat, 2003-05-10 at 16:08, BruceMillerPhoto@aol.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>> To put your Powerbook to sleep in YDL3, press the POWER button.  You
>>>> will see
>>>> "putting to sleep" dialog box momentarily and then instantaneous
>>>> sleep.
>>>> Pulsing light upon closing lid.  Wake by tapping space bar.  Same
>>>> suggestion
>>>> I gave at newbies!
>>> 
>>> Well, you are right about it going right to sleep, no problem there.
>>> However, like myself, it wouldn't respond when it was supposed to wake
>>> up....yawn.  When I tapped the space bar, all I got was the pulsing
>>> light stopped, but no video.  Nothing, no response.  I had to power off
>>> to recover.  Any more ideas anyone?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> 
>>> S.M.Kelly
>>> =============================
>>> SMKSensei@Mac.com
>>> "A Windows professional who uses a Mac running Linux."
>> 
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> -- 
> 
> S.M.Kelly
> =============================
> SMKSensei@Mac.com
> "A Windows professional who uses a Mac running Linux."
> 
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> Actually, I figured this out.&nbsp; you need to find the userbin/snooze file
> while under root and select properties.&nbsp; Check the setuid option.&nbsp;
> This will enable snooze in KDE.&nbsp; So far, it has worked great.&nbsp; I
> found it is best if I close all my open applications first.&nbsp; Also note
> that snooze recovery takes a few seconds, be patient, and like
> &quot;Hitchhiker's Guide&quot; says in friendly letters on the back,
> &quot;Don't Panic.&quot;&nbsp; It'll work......&nbsp; I hope.<BR>
> <BR>
> If I can answer any other questions, let me know.&nbsp; I'm certainly no
> expert, but I'm finding my way around slowly.<BR>
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> SMK<BR>
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> On Wed, 2003-05-14 at 11:02, Angus M.Macdonald wrote:
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> <PRE><FONT COLOR="#737373" SIZE="3"><I>This happens to me quite alot as well.
> No video or ssh access on wake
> from sleep...I can hear the hard drive whirring, however.
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> &gt; Subject: Re: PowerBook sleep
> &gt; From: &quot;S.M.Kelly&quot; &lt;SMKSensei@mac.com&gt;
> &gt; To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> &gt; Organization:
> &gt; Date: 11 May 2003 08:07:16 -0400
> &gt; Reply-To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
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> &gt; On Sat, 2003-05-10 at 16:08, BruceMillerPhoto@aol.com wrote:
> &gt;
> &gt;&gt; To put your Powerbook to sleep in YDL3, press the POWER button.  You
> &gt;&gt; will see
> &gt;&gt; &quot;putting to sleep&quot; dialog box momentarily and then
> instantaneous 
> &gt;&gt; sleep.
> &gt;&gt; Pulsing light upon closing lid.  Wake by tapping space bar.  Same
> &gt;&gt; suggestion
> &gt;&gt; I gave at newbies!
> &gt;
> &gt; Well, you are right about it going right to sleep, no problem there.
> &gt; However, like myself, it wouldn't respond when it was supposed to wake
> &gt; up....yawn.  When I tapped the space bar, all I got was the pulsing
> &gt; light stopped, but no video.  Nothing, no response.  I had to power off
> &gt; to recover.  Any more ideas anyone?
> &gt;
> &gt;
> &gt; -- 
> &gt;
> &gt; S.M.Kelly
> &gt; =============================
> &gt; SMKSensei@Mac.com
> &gt; &quot;A Windows professional who uses a Mac running Linux.&quot;
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