yellowdog-general digest, Vol 1 #1339 - Re: Msg: 8 & 13, MOL/OS 9 and Debian v. YDL

[Derick Centeno]

On Wed, 2004-03-03 at 08:08,
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> Message: 8
> Subject: RE: Exchange files between OS 9 and MOL
> From: Joerg Schloemer <tinkov@web.de>
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> Date: 03 Mar 2004 09:59:00 +0100
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> Hello,
> of course I meant "sharing files" :) .
> Well, I have a hfs partition free for that purpose now.
> What if MacOs 9 is installed on a hfs partition? Is it possible to share
> files under that condition or do I miss the point somewhere?
> 
> Joerg
> 
> >Mr. Schloemer:
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> >Joerg Schloemer <tinkov AT web DOT de> wrote:
> > I've just got Mol running partly. Can anybody> give me a 
> >hint how to exchange files between> OS 9 and YDL 3.01?
> >Assume you mean share files between you OS 9 partition
> >and your YDL partition on the same machine... right?
> 
> >The main warning is that you cannot have the same
> >partition mounted in both the Mac OS 9 and YD Linux
> >environments. The easiest way I have found to do that
> >was to create at initial installation time (sorry, but
> >you will probably have to repartition your hard drive
> >and reinstall everything to accomplish this) a
> >"transfer" partition in the HFS (not HFS+) format.
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Hi Joerg:

You missed the point.

When you are in YDL and you have activated MOL you ARE accessing Mac OS
9 or whatever OS is currently loaded as the primary or default OS to
start or boot from!  Now transferring files between the Mac OS and YDL
is something different, but that is not what you have asked about.

Mac OS 9 or whatever Mac OS you choose to be your primary Mac OS should
always reside on HFS, so that YDL can see it whenever you do choose to
transfer files between the different OS's or when you may decide to use
the mount command to mount the hfs partition where the Mac OS resides so
that Linux can "see" it as part of its "tree" - without using MOL. 
That's a different question.  From the way you wrote the question in the
first place, I recommend picking up the text from Terra Soft on using
Yellow Dog Linux and also another text regarding Linux System
Administration.  You could get several .pdf file manuals for free from
the Red Hat (www.redhat.com) website regarding all sorts of stuff, but
that may be too much to take in all at once.

I hope my comments helped.

Best Wishes...

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> Message: 13
> From: yellowdog@schertell.com
> To: yellowdog-general@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> Subject: Debian vs YDL?
> Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 22:11:33 +0900
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> I like YDL a lot, but it's getting a bit moldy and my Powerbook is begging for 
> something new!  I'm thinking Debian since it's truly open source and is 
> available for PPC.  But I'm wondering about things like PMUD, I need my 
> powerbook to sleep when I close the lid and wake when I open it (everytime).  
> Any thoughts about the pros and cons of switching over to Debian?
> 
> Sean

Dear Sean:
I used to feel the same way but remember there is a difference between
the leading edge and the bleeding edge.  Debian isn't the bleeding edge
as much as it is, what is called in medical circles "bleeding out". 
That means the patient is dying because he is bleeding from every pore
in his/her body, sometimes even perspiring in blood.  This is seen as a
result of Ebola exposure for example.

I say this because their distributors unfortunately can be unreliable. 
Pay your money to one of their distributors and you may never see any
CD's.  This happened to me once and I went after the distributor who
disappeared, and reported them to Debian and the agent they used to
distribute disks through.  I got apologies and nothing else.  My loss
was not a lot; but I shouldn't have lost any money.

Rather than "jumping ship", or other analogies I could use, let's just
say that you could explore Linux as much as you wish within the Red Hat
or even other distributions if you also know how to recompile source.
You may be at that point where you need to push yourself further to get
through the gory details of programming and modifying one or several
interfaces or files to get something working. Such as installing and
running hylafax within YDL.

Of course, as hylafax is a fax server it might be more appropriate for a
home in which an entire family of 4 or 5 or more receive and send faxes
continuously and hylafax would be just the thing.  This task is a bit of
a project, (or not) depending upon one's skills, but if that is not
challenging there are other things to do and which can be done.  

YDL, in its adherence to the Red Hat family tree, provides solid
stability and reliability.  This is like saying you are dating a
gymnast; the person may not be a standard beauty but there is no
question that the individual may be healthier, stronger and more
intelligent than one's self.  In short, rather than choosing another
maybe this person is onto a disciplined clarity which is worth evolving
and exploring for oneself.

Appearances remain deceiving however, and the grass despite it's shade
of lushness from one's own view, may not actually be so from a different
perspective.  One, in the end, must know how or if one is willing to
grow and what reputation one will generate via one's efforts.

Best Wishes...