[Off topic] Re: Mac OS X and Hello MSG.

[Norberto Quintanar]

--- Bill Hughes <billbohughes@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > --- Ed Sutherland <digital@twcny.rr.com> wrote:
> > > Norberto Quintanar wrote:
> > > 
> > > >When it comes to the major players being able to
> > get the job done,
> > > a
> > > >lot of major corporations are using Linux.  Is it
> > easy to set up
> > > your
> > > >home printer? Nope, it is not.  Is it easy to use
> > when you're
> > > keeping
> > > >track of multi-million dollars of transactions a
> > day? Yes.  Who do
> > > >you think is going to get the support/ business? 
> > Hint - NOT the
> > > guy
> > > >who can't set up his printer.
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > It's cool if Linux wants to chase the big
> > corporate dollars over
> > > the 
> > > home consumer or small business. The operating
> > system won't expand 
> > > beyond its IT-intensive niche and into the general
> > (and extremely 
> > > lucrative) desktop market, but that's cool.
> > Everyone has to make a
> > > decision.
> > > 
> > > I do agree with the thought that locking yourself
> > into a particular
> > > file 
> > > format (such as Microsoft Word)  could spell
> > disaster  in the far 
> > > distant future.
> > > 
> > > Ed
> > 
> > "Linux" isn't chasing the $$$. It's the major
> > corporations that
> > implement Linux ie. IBM.  Example at link below
> >
> http://www-3.ibm.com/e-business/doc/content/lp/prodigy.html
> > 
> > Remember the last time IBM tried to get into
> > desktops?  OS/2 ring a
> > bell?
> > 
> > For a rock solid desktop linux configuration to be
> > implemented a
> > major corporation will need to make the decision to
> > go forward with a
> > distribution that can go up against Windoze.  That's
> > gonna take $$$. 
> > Which goes against the open source ideaology.  A
> > good example is
> > Wal-Mart selling Lindows on it's cheaper PC's.  They
> > haven't made a
> > dent trying to sell $399 computers w/ Monitor.  If
> > Dell were able to
> > cut it's ties with M$ and implement a linux distro
> > as an alternative
> > to it's current offerings.  That would also prove a
> > worthy opponent. 
> > But M$ agreements with the major PC makers force
> > them to put Windoze
> > on every computer they sell.  Call Dell, HP, or
> > Toshiba and ask to
> > get an OEM computer with no OS installed.  They can
> > not sell you an
> > OEM computer legally wthout Windoze pre-loaded. 
> 
> Actually, the bit about HP is NOT true.
> 
> On NPR the other day, I heard that HP is going to
> offer PC's w/Linux installed (don't know which distro,
> or if they've rewritten their version which was
> installed on the last of the AlphaCPU line they got
> when purchased from Compaq, which BTW, Digital,
> a.k.a.- DEC, made THE 1st 64bit CPU) in Asia and the
> Middle East.
> 
> Without looking it up, I don't exactly remember all
> the details, but I know I heard this.
> Anyways,
> Though I'm jumping in late on this topic, I will say
> to the originator, that if you don't agree, you can
> always go get a Dell, HP or whatever (or build your
> own PC) and run Windows to your hearts content.
>  
> However, one thing that I must point out, is that
> because I do use a Apple (albeit a Old World PPC9500),
> I can drive to the closest city (I live in the
> country), walk into a PC store and when the vultures
> home in on me and ask "Can I help you?", I can get 'em
> out of my hair by stating "I need to get some stuff
> for my Mac", and they'll just point out the general
> direction of Computer stuff and walk off. Not to
> mention the fact that though OS X was Apple's way of
> "forced hardware upgrade", it isn't the case, BECAUSE
> Darwin is Open Source, and BECAUSE you can install it
> on your antiquited hardware (well, those with PCI
> Mac's with a 604 or higher, depending on which flavor
> of OSX one is using).

A link to the HP Linux story is provided:

http://star-techcentral.com/tech/story.asp?file=/2004/3/22/technology/7577823&sec=technology

Since I don't live in any of the countries mentioned in the article. 
The part about HP still holds true.  And halfway down the "web page"
the article mentions how it the initial push by the Malaysian
governement has lagged.  Probably because they couldn't configure
CUPS ;)

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