Does Red Hack suck?

[Zugwrack]

Just a quick question. You mean to tell me the retail version of YDL
4.0 still has  broken sound and they want folks to buy it?

On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 07:22:38 -0500, Simeon Wiehler <sw64 at cornell.edu> wrote:
> My experience runs surprisingly parallel to yours, Thierry.  I have been
> enormously disappointed with YDL-4.0 on my PowerBook.  I happily ran DOS
> without sound back in the early 80's and have no need for aural
> satisfaction server-side today, but that a company's newest flagship
> offering in the year 2004 cannot bring up sound on the very limited
> range of existing Apple architectures is *totally* unacceptable, most
> especially since sound worked fine in the 2.x and 3.x series.
> 
> On this list I was told simply that it couldn't be done, and that I
> should get on with my life soundlessly or go back a YDL generation.  I
> emailed Kai Schaft over at Terrasoft and he responded that sound wasn't
> a priority for them.  Seems they're busy with navy and airforce server
> contracts, and are doing some exciting work with the newest 64bit G5s.
> Which leaves us long-time YellowDog users eating yellow dog-shit.
> 
> So my YDL-enhanced happiness came to an end and decided to try
> Mandrake-PPC.  Ouch!  Many, many config files later, with no X at all
> (not to mention no sound!) I decided Mandrake had not yet attained their
> optimistically self-described RC1 status.  Their discussion list was
> also very sparse which is not a good sign.
> 
> Then, while perusing distrowatch.com I chanced on a new Debian-based
> release with the strange name "Ubuntu", which offered a PPC variant with
> a 2.6.x kernel. A quick one-CD download, a hiccup-free text-based
> install, and an earthy-brown Gnome 2.8 pops up. And OMG, OMG, OMG, sound
> works fine.
> 
> Ubuntu is not perfect(!!)  Pbbuttonsd occasionally dies for no apparent
> reason, mouse emulation appears not to be able to use my key preferences
> for buttons 2 and 3, and it is Gnome based, which is a bit like trying
> to get around in a strange city for the KDE-happy me.  But it has an
> active developer community, and while I will continue to watch YDL with
> interest (and just a little nostalgia) just in case things suddenly
> change for the better, Ubuntu will stay on my PowerBook for now.
> 
> If nothing changes in the next few months, here is one Enhanced user who
> will be canceling his subscription.  Terrasoft, are you listening??
> 
> --Simeon
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, 2004-11-07 at 08:55 +0000, Thierry de Coulon wrote:
> > After several trials to get YDL 4.0 to work on my PB 12" 1GHz (fine graphics
> > but still no sound), I also gave Mandrake PPC 10 (beta) a try - total
> > disaster, the thing won't even find a usb mouse, not to speak about no X at
> > all.
> > Then , from some message on the web, I found out ubuntu (www.ubuntu.org) and,
> > while I was at it, I tried it as well. Miracle: a fast, clean installation,
> > sound, graphics...  The only thing is that they don't provide KDE and I don't
> > like Gnome so much. But this shows IT CAN BE DONE.
> >
> > As both Mandrake and YDL base on Red Hat, the question is: does Red Had suck?
> > Should Yellow Dog not turn to another base? Considering that Ununtu is fairly
> > new and should only get better - and is and seems to want to remain free as a
> > free beer - YDL is going to have some problems.
> >
> > Note that I did not try ubuntu on other hardware, so I possibly simly had
> > luck...
> >
> > Thierry
> >
> >
> 
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