What gives?
Daniel Gimpelevich
daniel at gimpelevich.san-francisco.ca.us
Sun Oct 10 15:51:44 MDT 2004
Looking at the PRAM under OSX is tricky, and i don't know of a way to look
at it under YDL, but the NVRAM, of which the PRAM is a part, is easier:
"nvram -p" under OSX, and "nvsetenv" under YDL.
On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 22:05:26 -0400, GDB-B&W-YDL3.0.1 wrote:
> GDB-B&W-YDL3.0.1 wrote:
>
>> Daniel Gimpelevich wrote:
>>
>>> hd:,\\:tbxi
>>>
>>> That is the correct default. What you need is some help in hacking the
>>> flasher program to think you have old firmware. It would take about the
>>> same amount of effort as shipping back to Apple. I might have done it
>>> myself, but I would need access to a B&W for a couple of days in
>>> order to
>>> do so. If you're handy with MacsBug, you might try it yourself.
>>>
>>> On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 18:28:19 -0400, GDB-B&W-X.3.5 wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> GDB-B&W-X.3.5 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Daniel Gimpelevich wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Does all of this still happen even after you run the firmware
>>>>>> flasher? You
>>>>>> have nothing to lose by trying that, and the error you got
>>>>>> regarding the
>>>>>> address property leads me to believe that perhaps the firmware was
>>>>>> improperly flashed once before. Once again, the URL is
>>>>>> http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n58374 to download the flasher.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Daniel, but following all the directions and downloading the
>>>>> firmware update just gives me a message that my firmware is up to
>>>>> date. No opitions to reinstall so that was that. I feel there is
>>>>> a problem with the firmware also, but I don't know how to fix it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just a message from Doug...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> After much reading, troubleshooting, testing, reinstalling, etc., I
>>>> have come to the conclusion that my firmware is corrupted. I can
>>>> run a single OS and the machine will boot/reboot just fine, but just
>>>> as soon as I install and try to boot from another OS, the entire
>>>> process grinds to a halt. From what I've read, there should be a
>>>> good deal more to my boot-device in OF than:
>>>>
>>>> hd:,\\:tbxi
>>>>
>>>> But that is what it is and each time I try to set-default I get a
>>>> bad default error message. A single zap of the PRAM will allow me
>>>> to boot again, but this is not as it should be. Also trying to use
>>>> the firmware update from Apple just results in the message that my
>>>> firmware is up-to-date. It may be that, but it ain't right! The
>>>> only alternatives I see is to purchase another motherboard on Ebay
>>>> or ship mine back to Apple and have them to reflash the boot rom. I
>>>> have an idea of what the motherboard option will cost, but does
>>>> anyone know how much it would cost to have Apple to fix it? Also if
>>>> anyone has any other suggestions on how to fix this problem I am
>>>> more than willing to listen. TIA
>>>>
>>>> Just a message from Doug...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> So you think the problem is not with the default boot device but
>> somewhere else? Of course I have no way of knowing what it is before
>> I zap the PRAM as I can't get it to come up in OF without first
>> zapping the PRAM. So if the default is messed up, how come zapping
>> brings it back to the default? I'm very confused...
>>
>> Just a message from Doug...
>
> More information on this problem. I found yet another web forum where
> this command was issued and it seems that all this time I have been
> typing it in wrong. The command is supposed to be set-defaults instead
> of set-default. Typing it in that way on my machine works just fine. I
> also got a confirm of this from the G-List where I have been
> cross-posting in an effort to solve this nagging problem. Note that it
> did not fix the problem, but I feel somewhat less inclined to think I
> have a corrupted firmware now. BTW, I still get the "no address
> property found!" listed twice at the top of the OF screen after zapping
> the PRAM. That is my only real clue at the moment. Seems to me the
> problem is a corrupted PRAM as that is where the boot disk and partition
> info is held. Is there any way to look at the contents of the PRAM from
> YDL or OSX?
>
> Just a message from Doug...
>
>
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