RFC: YDL Extras

[Daniel Gimpelevich]

On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 03:08:11 +0000, Cian Duffy wrote:

> I'd be willing to do some uploading on this except for the problem
> that I can't use CVS (my DSL has decided its 'special' for some
> reason). Would SSL'ed FTP be a possibility?

If you tunnel CVS over SSH, your ISP likely won't be able to tell it apart
from regular SSH. Also many ISPs will unblock specific ports upon request.

> Also, what legality level would be accepted for packages? Would
> potentially patent encumbered packages - such as full XMMS, ffmpeg,
> mplayer, vlc, Handbrake, and so on, be allowed. Some of these are the
> most interesting and the most mentally painful to build for a new user
> - VLC in particular needs around 30 srpms compiled and installeds,
> many of which are co-dependent.
> 
> Cian

I can think of several possible policies regarding encumbered packages TSS
can pursue. Most of them would require major shifts in policy versus what
was used for YDL3. To avoid a highly political discussion in the community
that would likely make TSS think twice about the whole idea altogether,
it's probably best to have TSS decide on a policy behind closed doors
rather than get into proposing ways of dealing with encumbered packages on
the list. Besides, Matthias Saou is also looking for RPM builders to help
him out, and I think he'll gladly accept any of the RPMs submitted to TSS
that get rejected for policy reasons. That would create one stop shopping
via yum for anyone who uses the /etc/yum.conf file I posted at:
http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/pipermail/yellowdog-general/2004-December/017330.html

> On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 18:57:36 -0800, Owen Stampflee
> <ostampflee at terrasoftsolutions.com> wrote:
>> Everyone,
>> 
>> So there has been some chatter about YDL Extras... but we need
>> manpower... here is how we're planning on doing it.
>> 
>> 1) Packages are submitted via CVS by some trusted person. This will be a
>> small group, hopefully all community members. If you're not in this
>> group, you can post a URL of the SRPM you wish to submit to the yet to
>> be created ydl-extras mailing list.
>> 
>> 2) The packages are built with our internal build system via a cron job,
>> if a new package is built... an email is sent to the ydl-extras mailing
>> list stating the package has been built and contains URLs. We'll also
>> have a yum repo of the testing repo packages.
>> 
>> 3) If 3 success reports and no fail reports are reported to the list,
>> the package is deemed stable, and moves to the staging server where
>> it'll be mirrored on the real YDL servers.
>> 
>> 4) The world gets to enjoy more great YDL packages.
>> 
>> Interested in helping out? Well... let me hear about it! If you wanna
>> chat about ideas/what not... come to #yellowdog on irc.freenode.net. I
>> cant create mailling lists, so we'll have to wait until the TSS sysadmin
>> can.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Owen
>> 
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