yellowdog-general Digest, Vol 11, Issue 30 Message 2
Cian Duffy
myob87 at gmail.com
Fri Jul 29 13:12:36 MDT 2005
I'll concur to this, particularly on Apple CD-RW drives. The one in my
iBook seems to mince discs above a certain speed, to the point where
only very new drives can even read them, and they generally fail
checksums, such as what Fedora would be doing. /at 4x or so, it burns
discs that even my Powermac 5400 reads fine, down to booting from
them.
Cian
On 29/07/05, MJS <m8888s at comcast.net> wrote:
> Re: CD burning.
>
> I have noticed that my success rate, in having the CDs work, goes up much
> higher, when I set my CD burning software to the lowest rate possible on the
> burn. Also, check the media that you are burning is compatible, rate wise,
> with your burner, and the CD drive you are using to install from.
>
> - MJS
>
>
>
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> 1. Another angle on FC4.ppc -- maybe ... (Beartooth SenectoFlatuloid)
> 2. Re: Another angle on FC4.ppc -- maybe ... (Rick Thomas)
> 3. Re: Another angle on FC4.ppc -- maybe ... (Bear Tooth)
> 4. software change of tty? (Stefan Jeglinski)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 15:04:24 -0400
> From: Beartooth SenectoFlatuloid <beartooth at adelphia.net>
> Subject: Another angle on FC4.ppc -- maybe ...
> To: yellowdog-general at lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> Message-ID: <pan.2005.07.28.19.04.23.412145 at adelphia.net>
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> Someone on one of the Fedora lists posted this link :
>
> http://www.redhat.com/magazine/007may05/features/mac-mini/
>
> which talks about installing Fedora on Apple hardware.
>
> The page above is written, bless it!, as something of an introduction for
> non-apple-people to the oddities of installing a familiar system on
> strange hardware -- which is very much my position, despite three years of
> YDL, when it comes to putting FC4 onto our G3 iBook. (It's my wife's
> machine, and I seldom use it.)
>
> There are certainly a couple of things it tells you to do that I don't
> believe I did, or did properly, in my spectacularly unsuccessful attempts
> this past weekend -- such as not holding down C while booting FC4
> Install-CD #1. (It did *seem* OK up to the end of that CD.)
>
> And I think I must have messed up the "Apple Bootstrap" partition somehow;
> at one point the machine wouldn't boot at all, and I had to re-install YDL
> 4.0 to get another start.
>
> I hope it isn't too dumb to ask this: could such failures have produced
> the specific show-stopper I reported here?
>
> That causes the machine to react to every CD after the first by sneering
> "That's not the right Fedora CD."
>
> I made two copies of every single CD, on different machines from different
> downloads -- plus two extra copies of #2 -- and got that sneer every time.
>
> Also, once I knew only one #1, out of all the CDs in both batches, did
> anything right, I tried doing FC4's disk check on each. The one that works
> took a very long time to vet itself. Every one of the others got a quick
> rejection, which seemed to be saying that some sum wasn't part of the CD's
> name; I'm sorry I didn't get it exactly -- I was getting punchy by then ....
>
> Anyway, let me ask this: is there any hope that the true problem is not
> with the CDs themselves, but with something inconspicuously wrong with my
> apparent success up till the end of CD #1? IOW, is it worth while to try
> once more, with either set of the same CDs, but following that page?
>
> Or had I might just as well download and burn all five ISOs yet another
> time??
>
> --
> Beartooth Senectoflatuloid, Neo-Redneck, Linux Convert
> Remember, I have precious little idea what I am talking about.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 16:08:31 -0400
> From: Rick Thomas <rbthomas55 at pobox.com>
> Subject: Re: Another angle on FC4.ppc -- maybe ...
> To: Yellow Dog Linux General Discussion List
> <yellowdog-general at lists.terrasoftsolutions.com>
> Cc: Beartooth SenectoFlatuloid <beartooth at adelphia.net>
> Message-ID: <29623e0b1939c417848ee87496f82299 at pobox.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> Hi Beartooth,
>
> Remember to check the md5 checksum of the ISOs after you download them,
> and before burning them.
>
> On macOS-X you do this with
>
> >>> openssl md5 thingie.iso
>
> where thingie.iso is the file you just downloaded.
>
>
> Look in <ftp://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com/pub/yellowdog/iso/>
>
> the 4.0.1 iso's (the ones you want to use -- the 4.0 ISOs are broken)
> are called
>
> >>> yellowdog-4.0.1-orion-20050208-install1.iso 654,888K Document
> Tue,
> >>> May 24, 2005, 3:41 PM
> >>> yellowdog-4.0.1-orion-20050208-install2.iso 650,036K Document
> Tue,
> >>> May 24, 2005, 3:41 PM
> >>> yellowdog-4.0.1-orion-20050208-install3.iso 653,618K Document
> Tue,
> >>> May 24, 2005, 3:41 PM
> >>> yellowdog-4.0.1-orion-20050208-install4.iso 222,664K Document
> Tue,
> >>> May 24, 2005, 3:41 PM
>
>
> Then md5 checksums are in file
>
> >>> md5sum 1K Document Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 7:37 PM
>
> Note that the checksum file refers to them as
>
> >>> yellowdog-4.0-orion-20050208-install1.iso
>
> etc. For some reason they drop the ".1" from the version name *but
> retain the date* which is the clue to their real identity.
>
> Go figure!
>
> Rick
>
> ===========================================================
> On Jul 28, 2005, at 3:04 PM, Beartooth SenectoFlatuloid wrote:
>
> > Someone on one of the Fedora lists posted this link :
> >
> > http://www.redhat.com/magazine/007may05/features/mac-mini/
> >
> > which talks about installing Fedora on Apple hardware.
> >
> > The page above is written, bless it!, as something of an introduction
> > for
> > non-apple-people to the oddities of installing a familiar system on
> > strange hardware -- which is very much my position, despite three
> > years of
> > YDL, when it comes to putting FC4 onto our G3 iBook. (It's my wife's
> > machine, and I seldom use it.)
> >
> > There are certainly a couple of things it tells you to do that I don't
> > believe I did, or did properly, in my spectacularly unsuccessful
> > attempts
> > this past weekend -- such as not holding down C while booting FC4
> > Install-CD #1. (It did *seem* OK up to the end of that CD.)
> >
> > And I think I must have messed up the "Apple Bootstrap" partition
> > somehow;
> > at one point the machine wouldn't boot at all, and I had to re-install
> > YDL
> > 4.0 to get another start.
> >
> > I hope it isn't too dumb to ask this: could such failures have produced
> > the specific show-stopper I reported here?
> >
> > That causes the machine to react to every CD after the first by
> > sneering
> > "That's not the right Fedora CD."
> >
> > I made two copies of every single CD, on different machines from
> > different
> > downloads -- plus two extra copies of #2 -- and got that sneer every
> > time.
> >
> > Also, once I knew only one #1, out of all the CDs in both batches, did
> > anything right, I tried doing FC4's disk check on each. The one that
> > works
> > took a very long time to vet itself. Every one of the others got a
> > quick
> > rejection, which seemed to be saying that some sum wasn't part of the
> > CD's
> > name; I'm sorry I didn't get it exactly -- I was getting punchy by
> > then ....
> >
> > Anyway, let me ask this: is there any hope that the true problem is not
> > with the CDs themselves, but with something inconspicuously wrong with
> > my
> > apparent success up till the end of CD #1? IOW, is it worth while to
> > try
> > once more, with either set of the same CDs, but following that page?
> >
> > Or had I might just as well download and burn all five ISOs yet another
> > time??
> >
> > --
> > Beartooth Senectoflatuloid, Neo-Redneck, Linux Convert
> > Remember, I have precious little idea what I am talking about.
> >
> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 11:49:01 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Bear Tooth <Beartooth at adelphia.net>
> Subject: Re: Another angle on FC4.ppc -- maybe ...
> To: Rick Thomas <rbthomas55 at pobox.com>
> Cc: Beartooth SenectoFlatuloid <beartooth at adelphia.net>, Yellow Dog
> Linux General Discussion List
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> On Thu, 28 Jul 2005, Rick Thomas wrote:
>
> > Hi Beartooth,
> >
> > Remember to check the md5 checksum of the ISOs after you download
> > them, and before burning them.
>
> Did that -- with downloads from RedHat. Then used K3B,
> telling it DAO and Verify Written, which I believe uses the md5;
> what I had used on the downloads was a sha1 check.
> >
> > Look in <ftp://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com/pub/yellowdog/iso/>
> >
> > the 4.0.1 iso's (the ones you want to use -- the 4.0 ISOs are broken) are
> [....]
> Misapprehension: it's Fedora Core 4 I'm trying to install,
> not YellowDog, which I've been running for years -- exclusively
> (i.e., w/o OSX) since 3.0.
>
> But I tripped repeatedly over the apple bootstrap partition,
> and had to re-install YDL 4.0 (from Terrsaoft CDs, not downloads of
> mine) twice to make the machine bootable at all.
>
> And I'm now very thoroughly disgusted, though I'm not
> entirely sure with what.
>
> The never to be sufficiently accursed machine
> refuses to boot my triple-checked Fedora CDs -- the third such set
> -- at all, at all, even though it boots the YDL CDs fine.
>
> So I tried to update it, hoping whatever trouble it has
> might've gotten fixed in the meantime. yum update failed. Then I
> remembered a post here from Andrew on 7/16, saying :
>
> > I am confident all you need to do is to add an exclude= line in
> yum.conf:
> >
> > exclude=kernel-g5 kernel-g5-smp
>
> So I put that into /etc/yum.conf as bottom line of the first
> section, and tried again. It said right off it would install kernel
> 2.6.10-1.ydl.1.ppc -- and the test transaction succeeded this time.
>
> So it looks like the update problem is fixed; thanks,
> Andrew! That's a big consolation, especially if I do have to keep
> running what is essentially FC2 instead of FC4.
>
> The big question is whether the up to date YDL4 will manage
> to install, or even boot, FC4.ppc any better than before. Or more
> precisely, whether it's even worth trying. Any bets??
>
> Frankly, the repair I *want* to do at this point requires
> only a good solid stump -- and a sixteen-pound sledghammer.
>
> --
> Beartooth Old Fart, Double Retiree, Neo-Redneck, Linux Convert
> Remember, I have precious little idea what I am talking about.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 13:24:17 -0400
> From: Stefan Jeglinski <jeglin at 4pi.com>
> Subject: software change of tty?
> To: yellowdog-general at lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> Message-ID: <p06110404bf101365bf47@[192.168.9.138]>
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>
> One is supposed to be able to switch consoles with a keystroke
> combination, usually clover-control-FkeyN IIRC. Sometimes this works,
> sometimes not, and seems to have varied over the years going back to
> the early Linux/PPC distributions I've run. It seems to vary from
> machine to machine, and from time to time on one machine. (in this
> case I'm not using the latest and greatest, we're talking older 604
> machines with G3 upgrades, adb keyboards, YDL3/yum-updated, and
> runlevel 3 only).
>
> I'm less interested in hacking through and fixing the root cause. I'm
> more interested if there is a workaround, like a command I can do in
> one console that switches me to another. Does a suite of commands for
> tty manipulation exist? I aproposed tty and googled a bit, but came
> up blank.
>
>
> Stefan Jeglinski
>
>
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