How resume Airport Base Station under YDL4 only?

Daniel Gimpelevich daniel at gimpelevich.san-francisco.ca.us
Fri Mar 11 15:25:07 MST 2005


On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 12:59:58 -0500, beartooth wrote:

> On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 15:59:41 -0800, Daniel Gimpelevich wrote: [...]
>>> Hmmmm .... What's a sungem driver?
>> 
>> The sungem driver allows Linux to use the wired Ethernet connector on
>> your iBook.
> 
> Well, at one point, I did have the Base Station on the ethernet cable that
> had previously gone to the PC, and the PC on another ethernet cable coming
> back out of the Base Station -- and the PC connected fine. It was just the
> wireless laptop that didn't.
> 
> So I presume that either the sungem is already there, or it isn't needed.
> Right?

The sungem driver has nothing to do with your PC. It's for your iBook to
connect to an Ethernet cable.

>> I take this to mean that your cable modem has a built-in wireless
>> router, which you have recently deactivated in favor of a wired router
>> plugged into it, with another router (the AirPort) plugged into that. I
>> still don't understand what you mean by "through the server" because
>> under your old setup, all the machines could talk to each other.
> 
> My bad. The cable modem has only a power cord, the cable from Adelphia,
> and an ethernet port. No antenna.

The cable modem could still also be a wired router, or not, depending on
the model. Since you want wireless anyway, we'll assume that it doesn't
have router capabilities.

> From that port I had an ethernet cable to a NetworkEverywhere router
> with an antenna. I took that router out, and instead put in a
> NetworkEverywhere router without any antenna. I have a blue ethernet
> cable coming out of the new router which can go straight to the
> downstairs PC on my wife's desk, and works fine; but then the laptop
> would also have to have a cable. Instead, I want to put the blue cable
> into the antenna-less router's uplink port (rather than an ordinary port
> for just the PC), plug the downstairs end into either the old wireless
> router or the Base Station, and have both the PC and the laptop connect
> that way. (I'd actually prefer to use the old wireless router, leaving
> the Base Station free for travel.)

I'll assume that your old router is a model NWR04B. I recommend that you
connect its uplink port to the cable modem, and connect another one of its
ports to the PC. You can then leave the Base Station free for travel as
you prefer.

> The machines could not talk to each other; but that may have been due to
> the way I had them configured. Also, in discussion with others, it
> turned out that "talk to each other" might have several meanings....

We'll cross that bridge when we get to it.

>> Unless the server is a fourth router or some kind of proxy, I don't get
>> how the server can be a step between the iBook and the Internet at
>> large.
> 
> The server-to-be is a 1998 pentium 2 running Fedora Core 2, presently on
> the same antenna-free router and previously on its predecessor, doing
> fine on both, and serving, if at all, as a backup to the backup : I have
> pretty much all the same software on it as on my normal machine and its
> backup.

I've now lost count of how many machines you have.

> (Note: my electronic reach far exceeds my grasp; as a lifeline, I keep
> at least one whole machine configured like my main one, so that if I
> bollix the main one up so badly that it won't connect or won't even run,
> as I occasionally do, I have another to jump to and ask for help. I
> realize that's not the usual meaning of "backup," but I have yet to find
> a better word. "Redundant," maybe?)
> 
> Since the modem does *not* have an antenna, the only way data can move
> between any of my computers and the Net is over the ethernet cable
> coming out the back of it; and to get to that, it has to go through the
> upstairs antenna-less router.
> [....]

It would make sense to put all of your wired equipment within reach of
each other.

>> Once I figure out what you're trying to do, I'll be able to suggest
>> several possible layouts for all this equipment. The way it sounds now
>> is that you had a very simple setup before, but there was something you
>> were unable to accomplish with it. The purpose of adding more equipment
>> into the mix would typically be to prevent some kind of undesirable
>> connectivity.
> 
> None of my machines could share anything except via floppies or CDs --
> although, as I say, I probably need to do things like enable fileservers
> inside them that have been disabled till now for safety, since I haven't
> been using them.

Learn about the scp command.

> I want them to share files and bookmarks; and there is a simplification
> for email. At present, each connects separately, one at a time, by POP3
> to my local ISP; so I have separate saved folders, sent-mail folders,
> etc., on each machine.

Sounds like you want to share your entire home folder. Perfectly doable.

> My distant ISP is on the opposite coast -- in California, while I'm in
> Virginia; each machine connects into it separately, one at a time, too
> (via ssh); but there is only one sent-mail folder, etc. -- namely the
> one on the California machine. I want to make my server behave like that
> to the machines inside it, while doing all the connecting to the local
> ISP -- and similarly (less importantly) if possible, btw, for usenet.

You mean you only create mail to send while you're ssh'ed into your ISP?

> Also, and this is an issue I'm very unsure of, would an in-house server
> provide more security in the form of another firewall (besides the one
> on each machine, and the router) -- or less by being a single point of
> possible failure? (I can't lay my tongue to the term of art at the
> moment.) [....]

The router will be your primary firewall against net traffic. Whether you
want additional protection from intrusion into your wireless network
is up to you. This can be accomplished by placing a firewall between the
wireless router and all the wired machines.

>> Like I said, if you lost your password and therefore need to reset the
>> Base Station, you must connect it to some computer using anything
>> functionally equivalent to a crossover Ethernet cable and change that
>> computer's IP address and gateway so that it can see a reset Base
>> Station.
> [....]
>>> Or do you mean those as actual addresses? Trying to browse to
>>> http://192.42.249.15 times out.
>> 
>> Yes, those as actual addresses, but not to browse to. You change your
>> address to that.
> 
> I haven't the faintest notion how to do that, alas!

ifconfig eth0 192.42.249.15 up
route del default
route add default gw 192.42.249.13

>>> The underside of the base station says Model number M8840; ...
>> There must be some mistake.
> [....]
> My bad. Typo. The model number on the Base Station is M8440. My
> apologies! [....]

That model is also known as M8209LL/A, Dual Ethernet, and "Snow." The
firmware for it is at:
http://download.info.apple.com/Mac_OS_X/061-1347.20040719.jsd45/AirPortFW4.0.9.zip



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