Enigmail and Thunderbird

Thu Mar 31 09:54:47 MST 2005

Frustration goes with the territory Mr. Zschetzsche.  There are 
different views, languages, interpretations etc., etc.  One, myself 
included, can only be as helpful in relationship to whatever you or 
anyone else presents in writing.
IF you carefully review what you initially wrote to this list you will 
notice your errors which I merely pointed out and corrected.

It may have been your intention to discuss and present something 
related but different in context, but searching for that meaning became 
useless as a result of the errors mentioned leading me to a reasonable 
assumption, again evidenced by your errors, that your difficulty could 
have been fundamental.  So I chose a very fundamental explanation, as 
one can hardly get more fundamental than where the author's website is 
actually located and a correct referral to what he is explaining 
regarding his work.  AND Sir, you got both wrong.

Again refer to what you originally submitted to the list.

Now a different issue is what one is interpreting from what is written. 
  That is a rather complex matter of experience, philosophy, etc., the 
art of interpretation is further complicated by the fact that one with 
the best of intentions cannot walk in to one's room and explain to 
another in a respectful and friendly manner what the difficulties are, 
what are the best strategies to execute, and so on.
Instead most parties are restricted to the written word and therefore 
when the written word conveys conflict and confusion well the reader 
can only guess and provide his own meaning to whatever was intended.  
Surely that is understandable.

My way of thinking is pretty closely related to logical processing, 
language syntax (in human and computer languages), user interface 
design and other details of computer science and mathematics which 
...well, don't interest many people.  In short, like some of my 
colleagues and some of the computers I have worked with -- when there 
are errors, I rarely bother with trying to figure out anything else 
because the context and intention are not clear, and until it is clear 
little else matters.

To me compiling source is always interesting and fun because of what is 
revealed about the compiler's logic sequence and invocation procedures. 
  I know this is not for everyone, but I'm not interested in converting 
anyone to my views.

I am however interested in helping those in need, and the nature of how 
you wrote indicated the apparent need of assistance in very fundamental 
skills.

Puzzling, isn't it?

On Mar 30, 2005, at 2:45 PM, Andrew Zschetzsche wrote:

> I'm sorry Derick, but your reply did nothing but add frustration to 
> the problem.
>
> I'm well aware about the archecture and platorm requirement and/or 
> restriction.  Do you think I built Thunderbird 1.0 from source (and 
> that was before it showed up in YDL-Extras testing) for fun?  If I was 
> on x86, certainly I would have used the installer or an RPM.
>
> An I also understand that there are mozilla/firefox/thunderbird 
> extensions for different platforms.  I downloaded the _Linux_ Enigmail 
> extension.  Obviously it worked somewhat, as I get the menu in the 
> menu bar(s) and the icon(s) in the buttons bar.
>
> My question is this:  Do you have to rebuild the Enigmail extension 
> for the PPC, or can you download and install it?  Everything working 
> but the Enigmail service does make sense in a way, because of the 
> cross-platform GUI mozilla uses.
>
>
> Derick Centeno wrote:
>
>> The link I found regarding the Thunderbird extension enigmail was:
>>
>> https://addons.update.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php? 
>> application=thunderbird&version=1.0
>> &os=Windows&id=71
>>
>> (note that the URL is intended to be all on one line)
>> However, www.enigmail.mozilla.org, just doesn't exist.
>>
>> You probably intended to mean:
>> http://enigmail.mozdev.org/
>>
>> As regards to your complaint, it should suffice to remind you that 
>> all  of mozilla's products are for different architectures and one 
>> has to  pay particular attention to what page and what specific item 
>> from that  page one has selected to download.  This is true in any OS 
>> of course,  but especially true in Linux.  One also must attend to, 
>> especially  during a build from source, which sequence of steps are 
>> initiated AND  whether each one completed successfully.
>>
>> Integrating extensions, and so on into mozilla does not require a  
>> rebuild from source each and every time something new is added.  At  
>> most, the application may need to be restarted.  I have not heard or  
>> experienced that the computer itself would need to be rebooted.  The  
>> one exception to this is that you have downloaded the extensions or  
>> whatever in source as well.
>>
>> IF that is the situation then you must build the application first,  
>> followed next by the extension to the application.  Again following 
>> all  the appropriate and requisite procedures throughout the process 
>> for  each item.
>>
>> This strategy would be necessary if the application nor it's 
>> extension  existed yet in the PPC architecture and you didn't want to 
>> wait for  someone else to build it first.  In Linux, there are 
>> reasons for  rushing ahead and going for various apps first and 
>> having them run on  one's system immediately.  However, if this 
>> doesn't apply to your  situation you then could take a much easier 
>> road, wait for someone else  to build it and then download and 
>> install that.  Then all you would  need to do is to restart that 
>> application.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 30, 2005, at 3:51 AM, Andrew Zschetzsche wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I have built-from-source Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 a while ago, and 
>>> now  I'm trying to get the current version of Enigmail to work 
>>> nicely with  it.
>>>
>>> I can download the .xpi from the Mozilla extensions website, and I 
>>> can  sucessfully install it.  When I rebooted Thunderbird I can see 
>>> the  Enigmail menu, and all of the menus are functional.
>>>
>>> But when I try to generate a key I get the message "Error in 
>>> accessing  Enigmail service."  I checked, and I do have gpgme rpm 
>>> from freshrpm's  installed, and the gpg path is correct.
>>>
>>> Do I have to rebuild enigmail for the PPC archecture?   
>>> enigmail.mozilla.org has instructions, but then I have to rebuild  
>>> Thunderbird too.  Weird, I could have sworn that I just installed 
>>> the  .xpi when I installed it before....
>>>
>>> Oh, and when I click to print i get "Failed to initalize Enigmail  
>>> service" message.
>>>
>>> Oh, and if there were any intial setup steps, I would have said 
>>> "Don't  generate a key" since I have mine from OS X, but I can't 
>>> remember if  there was an inital setup dialog or not.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Andy Zschetzsche
>>
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