Fwd: (Incident Review ID: 403998) GETJAVA: comment: JRE for YellowDog Linux community

[Cian Duffy]

 But do you need or use OpenOffice? Or filesharing apps (Azuerus and
Limewire are among  the best for, uhh... downloading ISO's. Yeah...)?

They need Sun's JVM. 

Cian

On 24/05/05, Norberto Quintanar <nquintanar at yahoo.com> wrote:
> All that may be true.  But I don't miss it.  I don't need or use any
> development tools i.e netbeans or eclipse.  And from Kaffe's website.
> 
> "Kaffe is not the best Java virtual machine for developing Java
> applications, as it lacks much in the way of documentation,
> compatibility, debugging/profiling support, etc. If you are learning
> Java, or are looking for a complete Java development environment, you
> will probably be best served by using a "real" Java development
> environment (such as the JDK) licensed from Sun."
> 
> Which would bring you to the current state of affairs.
> Kaffe works great for what I use it for, surfing the web.
> 
> --- Cian Duffy <myob87 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > As someone who has fought with open JVM's for years on my other OS
> > (BeOS), I can tell you that you -NEED- Sun's JVM. Even GCJ in GCC4
> > barely cuts it, and when its YDL moving to GCC4?
> >
> > OpenOffice2 doesn't support Kaffe. I doubt Eclipse does, or
> > NetBeans.
> > Or any major Java app, for that matter.
> >
> > OpenOffice 2.x, which is a wonderful application, will depend on
> > GCC4's GCJ or Sun Java to run on YDL4. Thats a major app to lose
> > out
> > on due to a lack of Java.
> >
> > Cian
> >
> > On 24/05/05, Norberto Quintanar <nquintanar at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Java?  We don't need no stinkin' Java!
> > >
> > > <http://www.kaffe.org/>
> > >
> > > --- "Joseph E. Sacco, Ph.D." <joseph_sacco at comcast.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Cian,
> > > >
> > > > Good idea...
> > > >
> > > > Owen, what do you think?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -Joseph
> > > >
> > > >
> > ==================================================================
> > > > On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 17:01 +0100, Cian Duffy wrote:
> > > > > Sun are unlikely to port it themselves. Java on Linux was for
> > > > many
> > > > > years provided by Blackdown, official Sun Java on FreeBSD is
> > > > provided
> > > > > by the FreeBSD project, and so on.
> > > > >
> > > > > An experienced coder/coding team can approach Sun and get the
> > > > full
> > > > > source code under NDA to port the JVM/JRE, including the
> > HotSpot
> > > > VM.
> > > > > Sun won't port it themselves. In YDL's case, someone from
> > > > Terrasoft
> > > > > would be best, or someone that TSS are willing to vouch for.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cian
> > > > >
> > > > > On 24/05/05, Joseph E. Sacco, Ph.D.
> > <joseph_sacco at comcast.net>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > "We" do appreciate the effort.  If SUN were to offer JAVA
> > for
> > > > linuxPPC's
> > > > > > that would run on 32-bit & 64-bit PPC's, that would be
> > great.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Joseph
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> ===============================================================================
> > > > > > On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 08:14 -0700, Hex Star wrote:
> > > > > > > (Note that it took them at least a month to reply to this
> > > > request for support)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
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