Fwd: (Incident Review ID: 403998) GETJAVA: comment: JRE for YellowDog Linux community

Tue May 24 11:35:19 MDT 2005

Nope I don't use Open Office.  Believe it or not any personal
correspondence from my home is typed on an old Smith-Corona
typerwriter.  And we use Windoze at work.  Hey I'm with you.  One of
the reasons I do not have YDL 4.0 running on any Mac at home is that
I have old world machines, 4.0 is a resource hog, and even if I did
install it;  what could I realistically run on it for it to be
productive?  I surf the web at home.  

--- Cian Duffy <myob87 at gmail.com> wrote:

>  But do you need or use OpenOffice? Or filesharing apps (Azuerus
> and
> Limewire are among  the best for, uhh... downloading ISO's.
> Yeah...)?
> 
> They need Sun's JVM. 
> 
> Cian
> 
> On 24/05/05, Norberto Quintanar <nquintanar at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > All that may be true.  But I don't miss it.  I don't need or use
> any
> > development tools i.e netbeans or eclipse.  And from Kaffe's
> website.
> > 
> > "Kaffe is not the best Java virtual machine for developing Java
> > applications, as it lacks much in the way of documentation,
> > compatibility, debugging/profiling support, etc. If you are
> learning
> > Java, or are looking for a complete Java development environment,
> you
> > will probably be best served by using a "real" Java development
> > environment (such as the JDK) licensed from Sun."
> > 
> > Which would bring you to the current state of affairs.
> > Kaffe works great for what I use it for, surfing the web.
> > 
> > --- Cian Duffy <myob87 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > As someone who has fought with open JVM's for years on my other
> OS
> > > (BeOS), I can tell you that you -NEED- Sun's JVM. Even GCJ in
> GCC4
> > > barely cuts it, and when its YDL moving to GCC4?
> > >
> > > OpenOffice2 doesn't support Kaffe. I doubt Eclipse does, or
> > > NetBeans.
> > > Or any major Java app, for that matter.
> > >
> > > OpenOffice 2.x, which is a wonderful application, will depend
> on
> > > GCC4's GCJ or Sun Java to run on YDL4. Thats a major app to
> lose
> > > out
> > > on due to a lack of Java.
> > >
> > > Cian
> > >
> > > On 24/05/05, Norberto Quintanar <nquintanar at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > Java?  We don't need no stinkin' Java!
> > > >
> > > > <http://www.kaffe.org/>
> > > >
> > > > --- "Joseph E. Sacco, Ph.D." <joseph_sacco at comcast.net>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Cian,
> > > > >
> > > > > Good idea...
> > > > >
> > > > > Owen, what do you think?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -Joseph
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> ==================================================================
> > > > > On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 17:01 +0100, Cian Duffy wrote:
> > > > > > Sun are unlikely to port it themselves. Java on Linux was
> for
> > > > > many
> > > > > > years provided by Blackdown, official Sun Java on FreeBSD
> is
> > > > > provided
> > > > > > by the FreeBSD project, and so on.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > An experienced coder/coding team can approach Sun and get
> the
> > > > > full
> > > > > > source code under NDA to port the JVM/JRE, including the
> > > HotSpot
> > > > > VM.
> > > > > > Sun won't port it themselves. In YDL's case, someone from
> > > > > Terrasoft
> > > > > > would be best, or someone that TSS are willing to vouch
> for.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cian
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 24/05/05, Joseph E. Sacco, Ph.D.
> > > <joseph_sacco at comcast.net>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > "We" do appreciate the effort.  If SUN were to offer
> JAVA
> > > for
> > > > > linuxPPC's
> > > > > > > that would run on 32-bit & 64-bit PPC's, that would be
> > > great.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -Joseph
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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> > > > > > > On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 08:14 -0700, Hex Star wrote:
> > > > > > > > (Note that it took them at least a month to reply to
> this
> > > > > request for support)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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