[ydl-gen] USB Drive - correction

rev rob houseofshame at gmail.com
Mon Jan 23 16:56:32 MST 2006


Hey thanks for clearing that up. But I think I sorta knew what you
meant. It seems with the print command in pdisk all the correct
numbers are listed and I don't have to count them.
pdisk handles that very nicely
   Thanks again for your time and all your help.

On 1/23/06, Derick Centeno <aguilarojo at verizon.net> wrote:
> Hi Rev:
> I have to correct myself.  pdisk defines each sector block as 512
> bytes, not 512K bytes.  You can read more details here:
>
> http://www.cyberflunk.com/ans/0115.html
>
> http://www.google.com/search?q=pdisk+block+size&start=0&ie=utf
> -8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official
>
> The "base" is where the mount point for a sector begins; the length is
> the amount of blocks in that sector.
>
> Best wishes...
> On Jan 22, 2006, at 10:02 PM, Derick Centeno wrote:
>
> > Hi Rev:
> > I think I mentioned elsewhere that Linux can only read hfs+ and
> > read/write hfs.
> >
> > Refer to:
> > http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/support/solutions/ydl_general/usb-
> > device.shtml
> >
> > pdisk is tricky; you have to learn to think as it does where each
> > sector is 512K blocks.  Also what it refers to as length is the where
> > the mount point begins from one sector to another.  Also you have to
> > remember to convert from blocks to MGs and Gigs.  Of course, the
> > computer can display this automatically, but you won't understand it
> > unless you comprehend the calculations behind the lablels (and why
> > those values are either correct or not).  Indeed, understanding the
> > nuances better enables you to partition your drive more efficiently as
> > well.  You can download the manual for YDL 4.0 and YDL 3.0/3.0.1 which
> > discusses a bit about it.  Read as much as you can:
> >
> > http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/support/installation/
> >
> > Unfortunately all any OS X or OS 9 (or any other Apple utility) can do
> > is erase and format the drive either in hfs or free format.  pdisk and
> > another application -- called  parted -- I believe -- can create the
> > ext3 file format Linux understands.  pdisk can write over hfs or free
> > format.  pdisk can read and write to hfs, but there is little
> > usefulness in that as most work will be done in Linux eventually.
> >
> > In other words, no Apple utility can create or read ext3 file format
> > which Linux uses.  You will just have to dive into Linux and "let go"
> > of Apple utilities.  It can be done.... trust the Force, Rev. :)
> >
> > Best wishes...
> >
> >
> > On Jan 22, 2006, at 7:59 PM, rev rob wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks again, Derick.
> >>    The move to 4.0 went  well on the iMac 233. Granted it took a
> >> little bit of time with the speed of the processor and all. But all in
> >> all, very smooth. Can't get the screen centered though, it's a little
> >> too far left.
> >>   I tried to mount the usb drive like this after making the folder sam
> >>
> >>  mount  /dev/sda1 hfsplus /mnt/sam
> >>  and
> >>  mount -t hfsplus /dev/sda1 /mnt/sam
> >>
> >> neither worked. It said hfsplus was not supported by the kernel.
> >>
> >>  Also I tried pdisk. It seems like a nice app but I don't know about
> >> block and length settings.
> >>    So I reformatted the using os x as Mac os extended (not journeled).
> >> Hey just a thought but can use disk utility to format the drive to
> >> something ydl will be able to mount? Also, I have a machine running
> >> OS9, could I do something with Drive Setup?
> >>    Thanks
> >>       rob
> >> On 1/22/06, Derick Centeno <aguilarojo at verizon.net> wrote:
> >>> Hi rev:
> >>> Unfortunately moving up to YDL 4 will not be so simple with the
> >>> hardware you have.  You will have to change your BootX settings
> >>> specifically for YDL 4; it may be best to follow the instructions
> >>> discussed here:
> >>>
> >>> http://yellowdog-board.com/viewtopic.php?t=249
> >>>
> >>> You can also go to to this link on Google for other topics related to
> >>> this problem:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.google.com/search?q=BootX%2C+YDL+4.0&start=0&ie=utf
> >>> -8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official
> >>>
> >>> Best wishes....
> >>>
> >>> On Jan 21, 2006, at 6:31 PM, rev rob wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> THANK YOU so much for your help and time.
> >>>>   i tried:
> >>>>      tail -f /var/log/messages
> >>>> and it seems my kernel doesn't support usb devices. So I'm
> >>>> downloading
> >>>> the iso's for ydl 4.0.
> >>>> I'll try that and keep you informed on my progress.
> >>>>  Again thanks so much
> >>>>      rob
> >>>>
> >>>> On 1/21/06, Derick Centeno <aguilarojo at verizon.net> wrote:
> >>>>> Hi rev:
> >>>>> I'll assume you read and had no trouble understanding the previous
> >>>>> links I recommended to you.  From there once your drive is mounted
> >>>>> all
> >>>>> you need to do is use pdisk to wipe out/erase your USB drive so
> >>>>> that
> >>>>> it
> >>>>> is formated for use as a LInux drive.  That's it, of course you are
> >>>>> clear that you'll have to set mount points for the USB drive, a
> >>>>> name
> >>>>> and create a directory within /mnt using that same name.  So let's
> >>>>> say
> >>>>> the name you choose is charles. Then:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> # cd /mnt
> >>>>> # mkdir charles
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  From then on when you mount that drive you can do:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> # mount /mnt/charles
> >>>>>
> >>>>> and that should be it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best wishes...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Jan 21, 2006, at 2:32 PM, rev rob wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi again and special thanks to Derick,
> >>>>>>  I'm running YDL 3.01 on my iMac 233 with kernel 2.4.22. I want to
> >>>>>> an
> >>>>>> external usb drive I have for more storage since the internal iMac
> >>>>>> drive is only 4.3G. The drive has some things on it from os x
> >>>>>> that I
> >>>>>> know longer need. What do I have to do make this USB drive work
> >>>>>> with
> >>>>>> my linux box?
> >>>>>>     TIA and have a great day
> >>>>>>         Rob
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