[ydl-gen] Question on YDL.net

[Gavin Hemphill]

Derrick:
	what you say is correct.  As a user of both YDL and Ubuntu I need to  
point out that the information you provide on Ubuntu is incorrect.   
Currently Ubuntu uses the following:

Kernel 2.6.15
Gnome 2.14
KDE 4.3.5
X.org 7.0
and Firefox 1.5
	G++


On 28-Jun-06, at 12:35 PM, Derick Centeno wrote:

> Hi Ted:
>
> You are probably very well aware how tricky your question is.  One  
> way to interpret your question is that you expect TSS to provide  
> the latest available KDE environment?  By the way, isn't that the  
> job of the KDE folks themselves?  Remember that KDE, like many  
> other Linux projects are comprised of volunteers.  TSS is a  
> commercial entity.
>
> Some projects are better organized and current than others,  
> likewise for commercial entities.  Where they differ is at what  
> point the commercial entities decide to move ahead in choosing what  
> will go into their respective commercial products and why.  Each  
> commercial company makes their own decisions regarding how much  
> longer they will wait for a certain project to be complete as a  
> version.  Occasionally a project will be moving to a newer version  
> just at or after a point where a company had to decide to move and  
> use what was already available as their product's usefulness in the  
> market place is recognized as maximal within a certain time frame.   
> Each company maximizes the utility of their product for a certain  
> market place.  It may be that users of that product may also see  
> value in a company production, but usually these users (you and I)  
> have different values of what that value is than the company or  
> other corporate associates are even aware of.  Our own  
> contribution, or wrinkle to the above are our choices regarding  
> what we as individuals want.  If we want something, fortunately we  
> can create or get it ourselves.
>
> Exploring this is interesting because it can help highlight the  
> value TSS or any other commercial entity provides in comparison to  
> Debian and others.
>
> Let's look at some distributions, ok?
>
>                        Linux kernel   KDE     Gnome    X.org        
> Firefox and Thunderbird
> YDL 4.1         2.6.15-rc5       3.4.2     2.10          
> 6.8.2           1.5                  1.5
> Debian 3.1       2.6.8              3.3         
> 2.8                             1.0.4              1.0.2
> Ubuntu             They are built upon Debian (we can consider this  
> the same for them).
>
> I provided the information regarding Ubuntu and Debian because they  
> are known to users of this list as well.  You could research beyond  
> this with commercial vendors and others but I believe it is  
> enough.  It is true that one can install, and modify the standard  
> package provided to whatever is current, but the dirty secret is  
> that packages are provided so that they work together.  I rather  
> have advanced packages which work together already at boot, thank  
> you.  I'll mix and match on my own from that point.
>
> Maybe the link here can help:
>
> http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/showcase/customers/
>
> Choose any one of the icons, and remember to take a look at Indi --  
> for Individuals.
>
> Whatever you decide, you can always participate here.
>
> Good Luck...
>
> On Jun 28, 2006, at 8:03 AM, Ted Goranson wrote:
>
>> In an upcoming shift of machines, I am considering putting YDL 4.  
>> 1 on my 1G 17" PowerBook G4.
>>
>> I have 4.0 on my Pismo and am discouraged about how old KDE is and  
>> that yum never touches something active.
>>
>> This message is about YDL.net. A couple years ago when I asked,  
>> folks said it wasn't worth much.
>>
>> Is it now? If I pay the money, will it be a reliable, robust and  
>> continuously rich upgrade/update source for a desktop KDE?
>>
>> Best, Ted
>> -- 
>> __________
>> Ted Goranson
>> Sirius-Beta
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