[ydl-gen] yum conf mess

[rev rob]

On 11/18/06, Derick Centeno <aguilarojo at verizon.net> wrote:
> I'm glad you found the archives. Keep in mind that there are many
> mirrors for each of the versions of YDL but what works best is staying
> within the one version you use. Think of this as a problem of having a
> blanket. One whole blanket of one type can useful for many years.
> However, if you start to patch up the blanket with items foreign to how
> it was constructed in the first place, it starts to look and act a bit
> messed up.
>
> So stay within the version which works best with the system you have. If
> you intend to move up beyond this version, it is best to upgrade
> completely to an entirely new version of YDL because whatever current
> packages and software exist are primed to work with the latest offerings
> available and the programming and partitioning structures and many other
> things have radically changed. As a result it is not at all clear that
> staying with an old version of YDL and mixing that with whatever current
> programs are available is a good idea.
>
> Regarding xine, the mirrors which I used then do work for YDL 4.1; as
> does the software. So as long as yum.conf is pointing at the right
> mirrors and if xine for YDL 4.1 happens to reside there, then it is
> there for YDL 4.1. However, unless you know how to read directories the
> way most persons can read newpapers, it may not be easy to discover
> whether that is so to your satisfaction before you use my version of
> yum.conf. If your only purpose is to search for xine for that version of
> YDL, you will have to acquire this skill, because I cannot guarantee
> that xine will be there.
>
> A quick way to develop this skill... since you have to do it anyway,
> sooner or later,.. is to use yum.conf itself as a guide.
> The term baseurl is used as a variable, the same way y= a+b+c, was used.
> Think of "a" as the identity of the server. Whatever follows afterwards
> are the directories within that server.
> You can try this out on your own by visiting each server . Choose any of
> the servers (from the mirrors listed at TSS) and place its name into
> your favorite browser's URL. Then one by one see what happens when you
> add another directory to the URL as it is expressed.
>
> For instance, let's look at the first one within my yum.conf file. Enter
> the whole server name complete with directories (start from http) and
> place it into the URL and just go there. See what happens if you remove
> the last directory. Then the one before that. You will discover that you
> are one by one returning to the server's top level or top directory
> tree. Go back down the same tree. You might discover other branches of
> YDL earlier versions. Notice that the branch to them is different from
> the branch of the directory tree leading to 4.1. If you have the time,
> you may discover for yourself under the directory extras, whether xine
> is there at all, just by looking for it yourself.
>
> Now if you do find it, keep in mind that that software is optimized for
> that version of YDL. A more current version may act completely
> differently because it is expecting a suite of tools which are current
> and for which YDL 4.1 was not designed. Similarly for each earlier
> version. Current versions of software are less likely to be adaptable or
> useable for even earlier versions of YDL. This, in general, is similarly
> true for each Linux distribution.
>
> It is easy to change distributions, but within each distribution is that
> range of a release which one must stay with as long as one is also
> holding onto a certain type of hardware. No one would think of using a
> transistor from a 1970's portable radio to replace a part in in any
> modern computer; the same insight needs to be applied with software. Of
> course, Linux can allow for the extension of many kinds of hardware,
> however we each must consider the versions we are using and what we want
> to do with the hardware we have.
>
> As always, best wishes with your endeavors.
> Derick.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> rev rob wrote:
> > Derick,
> >    I found your yum conf. file in the YDL archives:
> > ====
> >
> >>>>>> --Norberto Quintanar[main]
> >>>>>>
> >>> cachedir=/var/cache/yum
> >>> debuglevel=2
> >>> logfile=/var/log/yum.log
> >>> pkgpolicy=newest
> >>> distroverpkg=yellowdog-release
> >>> tolerant=1
> >>> exactarch=1
> >>> obsoletes=1
> >>>
> >>> [base]
> >>> name=Yellow Dog Linux 4.1 Base
> >>> baseurl=http://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com/pub/yellowdog/yum/4.1/base/
> >>> baseurl=http://ydl.osuosl.org/yum/4.1/base/
> >>> #baseurl=http://mirror.ac.uk/mirror/ftp.yellowdoglinux.com/yum/4.1/
> >>> base/
> >>>
> >>> [updates]
> >>> name=Yellow Dog Linux 4.1 Updates
> >>> baseurl=http://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com/pub/yellowdog/yum/4.1/update/
> >>> baseurl=http://ydl.osuosl.org/yum/4.1/updates/
> >>> #baseurl=http://mirror.ac.uk/mirror/ftp.yellowdoglinux.com/yum/4.1/
> >>> updates/
> >>>
> >>> [extras]
> >>> name=Yellow Dog Linux 4.1 Extras
> >>> baseurl=http://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com/pub/yellowdog/yum/4.1/extras/
> >>> baseurl=http://ydl.osuosl.org/yum/4.1/extras/
> >>> #baseurl=http://http:mirror.ac.uk/mirror/ftp.yellowdoglinux.com/yum/
> >>> 4.1/extras/
> >>>
> >>> [update]
> >>> name=Yellow Dog Linux 4.1 Update
> >>> baseurl=http://ydl.osuosl.org/yum/4.1/update/
> >>> #baseurl=http://mirror.ac.uk/mirror/ftp.yellowdoglinux.com/yum/4.1/
> >>> update/
> >>>
> >
> > Does this point me to where I can get and install Xine?
> >
> >
> >
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Thanks you so much for your time and knowledge and patience and
incredible insight.
  I will take your advice and your helpful thoughts. May they get me
rolling more smoothly.
     Also, I like your analogies, nice job.
 Sincerely
     rR