[ydl-gen] VMware or Virtual box

[Derick Centeno]

Andres has correctly detailed for you what I intentionally omitted.    
There is no lack of interest in such products but the ones which can  
be tested and perhaps utilized are those which abide by the General  
Public License and are open source.  Even if a GPL project was  
initially designed for Intel -- if the project has designed their  
effort so that it can be recompiled and run on the PowerPC family of  
CPUs (which include the Cell) there is no reason why you or anyone  
else cannot discover whether it will run on a PS3 within YDL.

I expect that those who are interested in such an effort will  
actually pursue it.  Some years ago a similar discussion did arise  
within these lists; I don't recall which GPL projects pursued  
virtualization besides Bochs, but there were 5 or 6 projects at the  
time and the only problem back then was the processors.  There should  
technically be no problem in implementing this on the PS3, but I  
can't discuss the point beyond theory as I neither have a PS3 nor am  
I interested in running or emulating anything on Intel or that family  
of processors.


On May 2, 2008, at 1:19 AM, Andres Tello Abrego wrote:

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> I belive, VMware will not ever be supported on PS3, mainly, because
> VMware is a full virtualization plataform, and needs that the
> virtualized achitecture must be a set or subset of the host
> architecture. So, that way you can be able to "simulate" a 486 over a
> DualCore because each instruction can be maped to a new instruction.
>
> SO, if you think, like an a translation layer, you would need a very
> fast and smart VM to, not even map an instruction, but translate it  
> and
> interpret it, very fast.
>
> To achieve this, you need a full software virtualization solution  
> likes
> Bochs, but it is slow as hell...
>
> PS3 uses an Cell architecture, which is equal to none other  
> architecture
> of hardware... totally different from the x86 architecture you can  
> find
> at the consumer pc (including new macs)...
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> Derick Centeno wrote:
>> Vmware is a proprietary product; you'll have to contact them as to  
>> how
>> close they abide with or cooperate with GPL based systems such as  
>> YDL,
>> or even if they are aware if their product will run within YDL.
>>
>> As regards a Flash work alike, there is Gnash, which you can  
>> install via
>> yum.  However I cannot address how Gnash works with Youtube.
>>
>>
>> On 5/1/08, *Phillip Doheny* <phillipd at eircom.net
>> <mailto:phillipd at eircom.net>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi there.  Just did the install of Yellow Dog on PS3.  Easiest  
>> Linux
>>     install ever.   One of the first things I tried to do was  
>> install VMWARE
>>     (don't ask why), but I got a message saying that VMWare won't  
>> run on
>>     power processor.  Does anyone have any successful experience  
>> getting
>>     VMWare, VirtualBox or even NXClient running on the PS3?
>>
>>     One final issue - Youtube.  Flash won't work.....is there a  
>> workaround?
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