Follow up yld on Beige G3

Sun, 31 Mar 2002 09:09:37 -0800

Just a little netiquette reminder from your freindly list admin, have a look at this posting, and notice the verbosity and length of it, please for the love of Steve Wozniak, edit your replies, just put the bits in that are relevant when replying, saves everybody alot of time, AND might get you an answer quicker.

				--Shawn

On Sat, 30 Mar 2002 21:40:25 -0700
John Baughman <jbaugh@mac.com> wrote:

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> >  1. Re: Making CD of ydl-2.1 iso file (sfalken@dumpsterdivers.net)
> >  2. "mysterious murder"; linux down, help!! (Alliance for the Reform of
> > Medicine)
> >  3. iBook 2001 Modem Woes (Tyson Tate)
> >  4. Re: Making CD of ydl-2.1 iso file (Eric D.)
> > 
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 21:31:58 -0800
> > From: sfalken@dumpsterdivers.net
> > To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> > Subject: Re: Making CD of ydl-2.1 iso file
> > Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> > 
> > On Fri, 29 Mar 2002 13:32:08 -0700
> > John Baughman <jbaugh@mac.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> I am trying to install ydl-2.1 on my Mac.  I have a beige G3 with 3 hard
> >> drives.
> >> I downloaded the ydl-2.1 iso install file.  My problem is that I can¹t
> >> figure out how to burn this file to CD so that I can use it as a startup
> >> drive to install ydl. I now have a file called
> >> ³fuji-2.1-20011105-install.iso² on my desktop.  I have made several coasters
> >> trying to burn this to CD. I¹ve read the readme file that says the iso file
> >> should be ³burned from ISO² to make a CD and not mounted first.  I¹m using
> >> Toast Titanium.  I¹ve selected ³ISO9660² under ³other².  What do I do next?
> >> If I simply drag the install.iso file onto the Toast window, I copy a
> >> non-bootable copy of the iso file.  If I open the file with Disk Copy I can
> >> see all of the file and folder components.  If I drag those files to Toast
> >> and burn a disk it completes the process but the disk is not bootable.  At
> >> least it is not bootable by holding down the ³c² key on reboot.  Is there
> >> another way to boot the CD?  Am I making the CD incorrectly?  Any help would
> >> be appreciated.
> >> John
> > 
> > Offhand, I don't know why you couldn't do an oldworld style install, using
> > BootX and running things that way, although I've never installed on anything
> > newer than a 7500......
> > 
> > --Shawn
> > 
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> > 
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 07:38:34 -0800 (PST)
> > From: Alliance for the Reform of Medicine <chesm_usa@yahoo.com>
> > Subject: "mysterious murder"; linux down, help!!
> > To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> > Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> > 
> > BIG PROBLEM 
> > 
> > 
> > I should have left well enough alone, but I wanted the
> > text, icons and everything to be smaller on the screen
> > (they are way too oversized) so I tried going through
> > the Xconfigurator as Terrasoft Support had previously
> > detailed.
> > 
> > 
> > Result: disaster!!
> > 
> > 
> > I get nothing now but a blank screen flashing
> > periodically with a message about something
> > mysteriously being murdered, and every time it flashes
> > it has stated this again. It doesn't show up long
> > enough for me to read what process went wrong leading
> > to the "murder." 
> > 
> > 
> > Helpp!!! 
> > 
> > 
> > Update:
> > 
> > 
> > I was, with difficulty, finally able to read the
> > repeating message.
> > 
> > 
> > It says "According to var/run/gdm.pid, gdm was already
> > running, but seems to have been murdered,
> > mysteriously. 
> > 
> > 
> > I can do nothing but turn off the computer. Then when
> > it reboots it goes into the same awful cycle of error
> > again.
> > 
> > 
> > It was the non-probing specification for
> > Xconfigurator; did I choose the wrong video card or
> > what? And how do I get my linux back?
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > 
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> > Message: 3
> > From: "Tyson Tate" <tysonatschool@hotmail.com>
> > To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> > Subject: iBook 2001 Modem Woes
> > Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 14:11:31 -0800
> > Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> > 
> > I grabbed YDL 2.1 at MacWorld and finally got around to putting it on my
> > iBook 2001. Unfortunately, it can not find my modem at all. I searched the
> > lists and it looks like a common problem, but there I can't seem to find an
> > answer. I did read that setting the modem volume to off should help, but it
> > did nothing. What's the secret?
> > 
> > -Tyson
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> > Message: 4
> > Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 17:39:57 -0500
> > Subject: Re: Making CD of ydl-2.1 iso file
> > From: "Eric D." <liriodendron@mac.com>
> > To: John Baughman <jbaugh@mac.com>,
> > Yellowdog-newbie <yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com>
> > Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> > 
> > on 30/3/02 17:19, John Baughman at jbaugh@mac.com wrote:
> > 
> >> Eric,
> >> Thank you for responding to my question.
> >> I've followed your advice.  I burned a CD in Toast by selecting "Disk Image"
> >> and dragging the fuji....iso file onto Toast.  I now have a CD called
> >> "ydl-2.1" that can be mounted on the desktop.  It contains numerous folders
> >> and files.
> >> 
> >> But I can't figure out how to boot from the CD to do the Linux
> >> installation.  Is there a special way to boot from a CD that does not have a
> >> Mac OS system on it?  I can't select it from the startup disk control panel
> >> and booting with the "c" key depressed does not work.  The install video
> >> simply says to insert the CD and boot from it.  I'm sorry if I am a pest.
> >> I'm very new at this Linux thing.  But I sure would like to get it installed
> >> and get some experience with it.  Alternately, is there some way to do the
> >> installation from a hard drive?  I have 3 separate drives.  I've initialized
> >> the stock drive on my beige G3 for use with ydl.  I have OS 9.2.2 and OS X
> >> on separate partitions of a second drive.
> > 
> > I'm cc-ing this response back to the newbie list.
> > 
> > This is beyond my experience. So you're running a Beige G3!
> > 
> > Perhaps this has something to do with BootX? Is a Beige G3 a "NewWorld"
> > machine? (I don't think it is) You may want to open up
> > YDL-2.1/install/BootX_Installer.hqx and install it in your Control Panels
> > (or wherever the installer installs it... PS you'll have to de-binhex the
> > installer to your HD).
> > 
> > This may be the extra step you need? (can anyone comment on this?)
> > 
> > PS I would suggest making sure you have a HFS (not HFS+) partition (e.g. 100
> > MB) available on one of your HDs that you can use to transfer files from
> > Linux to Mac OS & back (don't ask me how to do that -- I have yet to figure
> > out how to mount my "bootstrap" partition in Linux).
> > 
> > Eric.
> After several hours and multiple restarts I finally got ydl to install on my
> Beige G3 Mac.  I carefully went through all the steps and the install seems
> to have gone without a hitch.   Unfortunately it seems all to no avail.  I
> can't boot into Linux.  I've tried every combination of settings and options
> under BootX.  Sometimes on reboot I get about two pages of scrolling text
> and then it stops with something about the USB.  It names it USB 1 or
> something like that.  But most of the time I just get a short 15 or 20 lines
> of text and then it stops with the last word being "exit". I have to do a
> forced restart.  I guess I'll just hang it up until I upgrade this Fall to a
> new G4.  But thanks, especially to Eric, for the suggestions.
> John 
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