Follow up yld on Beige G3

[John Baughman]

On 3/30/02 12:01 PM, "yellowdog-newbie-request@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com=
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>  1. Re: Making CD of ydl-2.1 iso file (sfalken@dumpsterdivers.net)
>  2. "mysterious murder"; linux down, help!! (Alliance for the Reform of
> Medicine)
>  3. iBook 2001 Modem Woes (Tyson Tate)
>  4. Re: Making CD of ydl-2.1 iso file (Eric D.)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 21:31:58 -0800
> From: sfalken@dumpsterdivers.net
> To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> Subject: Re: Making CD of ydl-2.1 iso file
> Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
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> On Fri, 29 Mar 2002 13:32:08 -0700
> John Baughman <jbaugh@mac.com> wrote:
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>> I am trying to install ydl-2.1 on my Mac.  I have a beige G3 with 3 hard
>> drives.
>> I downloaded the ydl-2.1 iso install file.  My problem is that I can=B9t
>> figure out how to burn this file to CD so that I can use it as a startup
>> drive to install ydl. I now have a file called
>> =B3fuji-2.1-20011105-install.iso=B2 on my desktop.  I have made several coas=
ters
>> trying to burn this to CD. I=B9ve read the readme file that says the iso f=
ile
>> should be =B3burned from ISO=B2 to make a CD and not mounted first.  I=B9m usi=
ng
>> Toast Titanium.  I=B9ve selected =B3ISO9660=B2 under =B3other=B2.  What do I do ne=
xt?
>> If I simply drag the install.iso file onto the Toast window, I copy a
>> non-bootable copy of the iso file.  If I open the file with Disk Copy I =
can
>> see all of the file and folder components.  If I drag those files to Toa=
st
>> and burn a disk it completes the process but the disk is not bootable.  =
At
>> least it is not bootable by holding down the =B3c=B2 key on reboot.  Is ther=
e
>> another way to boot the CD?  Am I making the CD incorrectly?  Any help w=
ould
>> be appreciated.
>> John
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> Offhand, I don't know why you couldn't do an oldworld style install, usin=
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> BootX and running things that way, although I've never installed on anyth=
ing
> newer than a 7500......
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> --Shawn
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 07:38:34 -0800 (PST)
> From: Alliance for the Reform of Medicine <chesm_usa@yahoo.com>
> Subject: "mysterious murder"; linux down, help!!
> To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
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> BIG PROBLEM=20
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> I should have left well enough alone, but I wanted the
> text, icons and everything to be smaller on the screen
> (they are way too oversized) so I tried going through
> the Xconfigurator as Terrasoft Support had previously
> detailed.
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> Result: disaster!!
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> I get nothing now but a blank screen flashing
> periodically with a message about something
> mysteriously being murdered, and every time it flashes
> it has stated this again. It doesn't show up long
> enough for me to read what process went wrong leading
> to the "murder."=20
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> Helpp!!!=20
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> Update:
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> I was, with difficulty, finally able to read the
> repeating message.
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> It says "According to var/run/gdm.pid, gdm was already
> running, but seems to have been murdered,
> mysteriously.=20
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> I can do nothing but turn off the computer. Then when
> it reboots it goes into the same awful cycle of error
> again.
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> It was the non-probing specification for
> Xconfigurator; did I choose the wrong video card or
> what? And how do I get my linux back?
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> Thanks
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> Message: 3
> From: "Tyson Tate" <tysonatschool@hotmail.com>
> To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> Subject: iBook 2001 Modem Woes
> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 14:11:31 -0800
> Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
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> I grabbed YDL 2.1 at MacWorld and finally got around to putting it on my
> iBook 2001. Unfortunately, it can not find my modem at all. I searched th=
e
> lists and it looks like a common problem, but there I can't seem to find =
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> answer. I did read that setting the modem volume to off should help, but =
it
> did nothing. What's the secret?
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> -Tyson
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 17:39:57 -0500
> Subject: Re: Making CD of ydl-2.1 iso file
> From: "Eric D." <liriodendron@mac.com>
> To: John Baughman <jbaugh@mac.com>,
> Yellowdog-newbie <yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com>
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> on 30/3/02 17:19, John Baughman at jbaugh@mac.com wrote:
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>> Eric,
>> Thank you for responding to my question.
>> I've followed your advice.  I burned a CD in Toast by selecting "Disk Im=
age"
>> and dragging the fuji....iso file onto Toast.  I now have a CD called
>> "ydl-2.1" that can be mounted on the desktop.  It contains numerous fold=
ers
>> and files.
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>> But I can't figure out how to boot from the CD to do the Linux
>> installation.  Is there a special way to boot from a CD that does not ha=
ve a
>> Mac OS system on it?  I can't select it from the startup disk control pa=
nel
>> and booting with the "c" key depressed does not work.  The install video
>> simply says to insert the CD and boot from it.  I'm sorry if I am a pest=
.
>> I'm very new at this Linux thing.  But I sure would like to get it insta=
lled
>> and get some experience with it.  Alternately, is there some way to do t=
he
>> installation from a hard drive?  I have 3 separate drives.  I've initial=
ized
>> the stock drive on my beige G3 for use with ydl.  I have OS 9.2.2 and OS=
 X
>> on separate partitions of a second drive.
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> I'm cc-ing this response back to the newbie list.
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> This is beyond my experience. So you're running a Beige G3!
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> Perhaps this has something to do with BootX? Is a Beige G3 a "NewWorld"
> machine? (I don't think it is) You may want to open up
> YDL-2.1/install/BootX_Installer.hqx and install it in your Control Panels
> (or wherever the installer installs it... PS you'll have to de-binhex the
> installer to your HD).
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> This may be the extra step you need? (can anyone comment on this?)
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> PS I would suggest making sure you have a HFS (not HFS+) partition (e.g. =
100
> MB) available on one of your HDs that you can use to transfer files from
> Linux to Mac OS & back (don't ask me how to do that -- I have yet to figu=
re
> out how to mount my "bootstrap" partition in Linux).
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> Eric.
After several hours and multiple restarts I finally got ydl to install on m=
y
Beige G3 Mac.  I carefully went through all the steps and the install seems
to have gone without a hitch.   Unfortunately it seems all to no avail.  I
can't boot into Linux.  I've tried every combination of settings and option=
s
under BootX.  Sometimes on reboot I get about two pages of scrolling text
and then it stops with something about the USB.  It names it USB 1 or
something like that.  But most of the time I just get a short 15 or 20 line=
s
of text and then it stops with the last word being "exit". I have to do a
forced restart.  I guess I'll just hang it up until I upgrade this Fall to =
a
new G4.  But thanks, especially to Eric, for the suggestions.
John=20