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2. Re: 9500 video (Norberto Quintanar)
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4. What are the Source CDs for? (Wes Plate)
5. Re: What are the Source CDs for? (Norberto Quintanar)
6. Can't start Apache (Wes Plate)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 06:26:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Norberto Quintanar <nquintanar@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Adsl
To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
Use the internet configuration wizard in either KDE or gnome, it
"should" install everything for you
--- Patrícia Carvalhais <patricia.carvalhais@mail.telepac.pt> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I have a mac G3 and I want to surf in the internet using ydl 2.3
> like I do
> in MAC OS 9.2
>
> I don't know what to choose in the hardware options for the net
> card.
>
> Can you help me??
>
> Patrícia Carvalhais
>
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Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 06:28:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: Norberto Quintanar <nquintanar@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: 9500 video
To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
in bootx kernel argument:
video-atyfb:vmode:14, cmode:16
If you need the list of frame buufer arguments for that video card
let me know and I'll send them to you:)
--- Grant <gfl1@optonline.net> wrote:
>
> > Is there some special trick I have to know about to get YDL 3.0 X
> > windows working on a Powermac 9500 with an ATI mach64 video card,
> 2mb
> > of video ram, and a 15 inch Apple Multiscan monitor? This
> monitor is
> > not detected at bootup. Xautoconfig gives me 256 colors and an
> almost
> > unusable 640x480 screen resolution. Do I need more video ram to
> run X,
> > or a different monitor? Any help would be appreciated.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> 2MB (1.58 MB) should support 1024x768 x 16 bits/8 bits per byte
> (1000s
> fo colors).
> So that's not the problem. Sometimes it just misses the monitor.
> Go into KDE's configuration settings (cant remember which) and
> either select the monitor from a pull-down menu, or set the
> resolution
> yourself.
>
> Grant
>
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 07:52:36 -0700
Subject: Re: 9500 video
From: Thomas Carlson <tcarls@myback40.com>
To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
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That was the solution. I experimented with various vmode and cmode
settings and went with:
video-atyfb:vmode:11, cmode:24
My old eyes are better off with 800x600. Thanks.
Tom
On Monday, August 4, 2003, at 06:28 AM, Norberto Quintanar wrote:
> in bootx kernel argument:
> video-atyfb:vmode:14, cmode:16
> If you need the list of frame buufer arguments for that video card
> let me know and I'll send them to you:)
>
> --- Grant <gfl1@optonline.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Is there some special trick I have to know about to get YDL 3.0 X
>>> windows working on a Powermac 9500 with an ATI mach64 video card,
>> 2mb
>>> of video ram, and a 15 inch Apple Multiscan monitor? This
>> monitor is
>>> not detected at bootup. Xautoconfig gives me 256 colors and an
>> almost
>>> unusable 640x480 screen resolution. Do I need more video ram to
>> run X,
>>> or a different monitor? Any help would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>> 2MB (1.58 MB) should support 1024x768 x 16 bits/8 bits per byte
>> (1000s
>> fo colors).
>> So that's not the problem. Sometimes it just misses the monitor.
>> Go into KDE's configuration settings (cant remember which) and
>> either select the monitor from a pull-down menu, or set the
>> resolution
>> yourself.
>>
>> Grant
>>
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>
> =====
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>
> "You belong to something bigger. From birth. And your life is spent
> rediscovering the underlying principles, through various players --
> coaches, mentors, teachers, spouses, kids. It's in your genes. Your
> responsibility. Destiny. Is all on you. Lead, follow, or get out of
> the way."
> --Norberto Quintanar
>
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Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 10:02:51 -0700
Subject: What are the Source CDs for?
From: Wes Plate <wes@automaticduck.com>
To: YellowDog list <yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com>
Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
Just wondering what the three Source CDs are used for. Thanks.
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 10:19:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: Norberto Quintanar <nquintanar@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: What are the Source CDs for?
To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
Coasters for your coffee table ;)
--- Wes Plate <wes@automaticduck.com> wrote:
> Just wondering what the three Source CDs are used for. Thanks.
>
>
=====
--Norberto Quintanar
"You belong to something bigger. From birth. And your life is spent rediscovering the underlying principles, through various players -- coaches, mentors, teachers, spouses, kids. It's in your genes. Your responsibility. Destiny. Is all on you. Lead, follow, or get out of the way."
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 10:19:44 -0700
Subject: Can't start Apache
From: Wes Plate <wes@automaticduck.com>
To: YellowDog list <yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com>
Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
After installing YDL 3.0, the server option, installing Everything, Apache
won't start. I've gone to the Services control panel and enabled it, I've
rebooted and seen "starting httpd [ OK ]" in the startup process.
But I cannot connect to "http://localhost". I have installed webmin, and
webmin tells me "Error. Failed to start Apache" when I try to start apache
via webmin.
Ideas?
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Automatic Duck, Inc.
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http://www.automaticduck.com
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From: "Longman, Bill" <longman@sharplabs.com>
To: "'yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com'" <yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com>
Subject: RE: Can't start Apache
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 11:26:28 -0700
Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> After installing YDL 3.0, the server option, installing
> Everything, Apache
> won't start. I've gone to the Services control panel and
> enabled it, I've
> rebooted and seen "starting httpd [ OK ]" in the startup process.
>
> But I cannot connect to "http://localhost". I have installed
> webmin, and
> webmin tells me "Error. Failed to start Apache" when I try
> to start apache
> via webmin.
>
> Ideas?
Is httpd running?
ps -ef | grep httpd
should show you.
If it is running,
nmap localhost
will tell you which ports are running on localhost. If there's nothing on
port 80, there's another problem. If you see any "filtered" ports, then your
firewall is the culprit.
If you installed Everything, it might be your firewall software. Shut that
down if you installed it. Once it's down,
iptables --list [run this as root].
Should just say policy ACCEPT for input, forward and output.
If it's not running, you should, check your config file
[/etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf]. You should have
Listen 80
somewhere in that file.
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 11:53:23 -0700
Subject: Re: Can't start Apache
From: Wes Plate <wes@automaticduck.com>
To: <yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com>
Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
On 8/4/03 11:26 AM, "Longman, Bill" wrote:
> Is httpd running?
>
> ps -ef | grep httpd
>
> should show you.
Thank you for your reply!
Yes, it is running.
> If it is running,
>
> nmap localhost
>
> will tell you which ports are running on localhost. If there's nothing on
> port 80, there's another problem. If you see any "filtered" ports, then your
> firewall is the culprit.
Here is what that command gives me...
Starting nmap V. 3.00 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ )
Interesting ports on localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1):
(The 1593 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
Port State Service
22/tcp open ssh
25/tcp open smtp
111/tcp open sunrpc
631/tcp open ipp
879/tcp open unknown
3306/tcp open mysql
6000/tcp open X11
10000/tcp open snet-sensor-mgmt
When I go to YDL menu->System Settings->Server Settings->HTTP Server it
tells me that it is listening to 80, but obviously it isn't.
> If you installed Everything, it might be your firewall software. Shut that
> down if you installed it. Once it's down,
>
> iptables --list [run this as root].
>
> Should just say policy ACCEPT for input, forward and output.
>
> If it's not running, you should, check your config file
> [/etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf]. You should have
>
> Listen 80
>
> somewhere in that file.
Yes, httpd.conf does say "Listen *:80"
:-(
--
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Automatic Duck, Inc.
http://www.wesplate.com
http://www.automaticduck.com
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Message: 4
From: "Longman, Bill" <longman@sharplabs.com>
To: "'yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com'" <yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com>
Subject: RE: Can't start Apache
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 12:28:14 -0700
Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> > Is httpd running?
> >
> > ps -ef | grep httpd
> >
> > should show you.
>
> Thank you for your reply!
>
> Yes, it is running.
What does it show here? It's hard to see how httpd could be running....
> > If it is running,
> >
> > nmap localhost
> >
> > will tell you which ports are running on localhost. If
> there's nothing on
> > port 80, there's another problem. If you see any "filtered"
> ports, then your
> > firewall is the culprit.
>
> Here is what that command gives me...
....but down here it is NOT running.
> Starting nmap V. 3.00 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ )
> Interesting ports on localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1):
> (The 1593 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
> Port State Service
> 22/tcp open ssh
> 25/tcp open smtp
> 111/tcp open sunrpc
> 631/tcp open ipp
> 879/tcp open unknown
> 3306/tcp open mysql
> 6000/tcp open X11
> 10000/tcp open snet-sensor-mgmt
>
>
> When I go to YDL menu->System Settings->Server
> Settings->HTTP Server it
> tells me that it is listening to 80, but obviously it isn't.
>
Exactly. I can tell you have ssh, mail, cups, mysql and webmin running from
this.
You might want to try
service httpd restart
to see if it is a problem with a lock file. [not likely, but possible]
> > If you installed Everything, it might be your firewall
> software. Shut that
> > down if you installed it. Once it's down,
> >
> > iptables --list [run this as root].
> >
> > Should just say policy ACCEPT for input, forward and output.
> >
> > If it's not running, you should, check your config file
> > [/etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf]. You should have
> >
> > Listen 80
> >
> > somewhere in that file.
>
>
> Yes, httpd.conf does say "Listen *:80"
I've never seen *:80, but I'm no apache pro. I'd take out the star colon and
just put 80 there and see how that flies.
Take a look through /var/log/httpd/error_log and see if it's telling you
something we're missing.
Bill
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 14:31:57 -0500
Subject: Re: What are the Source CDs for?
From: Clinton MacDonald <clint.macdonald@ttuhsc.edu>
To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com,
wes@automaticduck.com
Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
Mr. Plate:
On Monday, August 4, 2003, at 12:19 PM, Norberto Quintanar wrote:
> --- Wes Plate <wes@automaticduck.com> wrote:
>> Just wondering what the three Source CDs are used for. Thanks.
>
> Coasters for your coffee table ;)
Well, Mr. Quintanar, while accurate, is being a little facetious. :-)
GNU/Linux and all derivatives is offered under the GPL (GNU Public
License), which demands that programs released under that license make
the source code available. Therefore, Terra Soft are just being good
citizens in supplying you the source code on CDs, rather than, say, by
download from an FTP site. Hypothetically, you could actually recompile
some or all of the source to, say, streamline your own Linux kernel
(though I am too much of a newbie myself to know how that is done).
Best wishes,
Clint
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 13:25:19 -0700
Subject: Re: Can't start Apache
From: Wes Plate <wes@automaticduck.com>
To: <yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com>
Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
On 8/4/03 12:28 PM, "Longman, Bill" wrote:
>>> Is httpd running?
>>
>> Yes, it is running.
>
> What does it show here? It's hard to see how httpd could be running....
Ok, maybe it isn't. This IS the newbie list, right? :-)
Here is what I got back, I assumed if it wasn't running I'd have received
nothing back.
root 30989 30821 0 12:50 pts/1 00:00:00 grep httpd
>> When I go to YDL menu->System Settings->Server Settings->HTTP Server it
>> tells me that it is listening to 80, but obviously it isn't.
>>
>
> Exactly. I can tell you have ssh, mail, cups, mysql and webmin running from
> this.
>
> You might want to try
>
> service httpd restart
>
> to see if it is a problem with a lock file. [not likely, but possible]
When I type this I get:
Stopping httpd: [ FAILED ]
Starting httpd: [ OK ]
>>> If you installed Everything, it might be your firewall software. Shut that
>>> down if you installed it. Once it's down,
I wish I knew how to do this, I can't find the firewall software. Sorry,
I'm really good with Macs, and I'm ok on Windows, but Linux is just too
"roll your own" for me to be able to know how to work it.
>>> iptables --list [run this as root].
>>>
>>> Should just say policy ACCEPT for input, forward and output.
>>>
>>> If it's not running, you should, check your config file
>>> [/etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf]. You should have
>>>
>>> Listen 80
>>>
>>> somewhere in that file.
>>
>>
>> Yes, httpd.conf does say "Listen *:80"
>
> I've never seen *:80, but I'm no apache pro. I'd take out the star colon and
> just put 80 there and see how that flies.
Didn't seem to help. Or maybe something deeper is failing and this isn't
even coming into play.
> Take a look through /var/log/httpd/error_log and see if it's telling you
> something we're missing.
This file is empty!
I've installed YDL on this box three times now trying to get it to work.
Interestingly, the second time Apache worked just fine, and that time I
DIDN'T install everything. Of course that second time I could use perl
-MCPAN, it couldn't find CPAM.pm.
I did everything again because of the perl -MCPAN problem and I was hoping
mod_perl would get installed. I need that.
Last night I also wrote to the Yellow Dog people and asked to buy
installation support to help me get up and running-- so far no answer.
Suggestions?
--
Wes Plate
Automatic Duck, Inc.
http://www.wesplate.com
http://www.automaticduck.com
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Subject: java plugin will not work in mozilla 1.2.1
From: "Austin Miller" <austin.miller@excite.com>
Cc:
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 16:30:52 -0400 (EDT)
Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
Hi all. I followed the instructions and created a symbolic link from /usr/lib/mozilla-1.2.1/plugins to /usr/local/j2sdk1.3.1/jre/plugin/ppc/mozilla/javaplugin_oji.so but when I open mozilla and go to Help --> About Plugins all that shows up is the default plugin. I am 100% sure that the javaplugin_oji.so file exists and is in the correct location and I also know that the symbolic link exists. Does it have something to do with the file permisions of the plugin? I couldn't find anything usefull on google.
Thanks for time.
Austin
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Message: 8
From: "Longman, Bill" <longman@sharplabs.com>
To: "'yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com'" <yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com>
Subject: RE: Can't start Apache
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 14:27:25 -0700
Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> Ok, maybe it isn't. This IS the newbie list, right? :-)
>
> Here is what I got back, I assumed if it wasn't running I'd
> have received
> nothing back.
>
> root 30989 30821 0 12:50 pts/1 00:00:00 grep httpd
Yep, all you got here is your grep. No httpd running. So there is a problem
getting Apache to start.
> >> When I go to YDL menu->System Settings->Server
> Settings->HTTP Server it
> >> tells me that it is listening to 80, but obviously it isn't.
> >>
> >
> > Exactly. I can tell you have ssh, mail, cups, mysql and
> webmin running from
> > this.
> >
> > You might want to try
> >
> > service httpd restart
> >
> > to see if it is a problem with a lock file. [not likely,
> but possible]
>
> When I type this I get:
>
> Stopping httpd: [ FAILED ]
> Starting httpd: [ OK ]
>
>
> >>> If you installed Everything, it might be your firewall
> software. Shut that
> >>> down if you installed it. Once it's down,
>
> I wish I knew how to do this, I can't find the firewall
> software. Sorry,
> I'm really good with Macs, and I'm ok on Windows, but Linux
> is just too
> "roll your own" for me to be able to know how to work it.
Just run "iptables --list".
Also, one way to find all the services and their behavio[u]r at system
startup is with the "chkconfig" command. Just use "chkconfig --list" to show
you what services get started and it will show you at which run-level you
should expect to see them.
>
> >>> iptables --list [run this as root].
> >>>
> >>> Should just say policy ACCEPT for input, forward and output.
> >>>
> >>> If it's not running, you should, check your config file
> >>> [/etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf]. You should have
> >>>
> >>> Listen 80
> >>>
> >>> somewhere in that file.
> >>
> >>
> >> Yes, httpd.conf does say "Listen *:80"
> >
> > I've never seen *:80, but I'm no apache pro. I'd take out
> the star colon and
> > just put 80 there and see how that flies.
>
> Didn't seem to help. Or maybe something deeper is failing
> and this isn't
> even coming into play.
> > Take a look through /var/log/httpd/error_log and see if
> it's telling you
> > something we're missing.
>
> This file is empty!
Duh! My bad. That's the logs from httpd! Ooof! Sorry, too much fun in one
weekend....
The /var/log/messages file is where most of the output ought to go. Browse
through there for any httpd messages. You will probably also find something
in the less-crowded boot.log file [in /var/log]. At least a start and stop
message.
Next, check in /etc/httpd/logs/error_log. That should show you a heap of fun
stuff.
Otherwise, you should debug the httpd itself.
Step 1: become superuser -- "su" or "sudo -s"
Step 2: stop httpd -- "service httpd stop"
Step 3: check the httpd.conf file -- "httpd -t"
> I've installed YDL on this box three times now trying to get
> it to work.
> Interestingly, the second time Apache worked just fine, and
> that time I
> DIDN'T install everything. Of course that second time I
> could use perl
> -MCPAN, it couldn't find CPAM.pm.
>
> I did everything again because of the perl -MCPAN problem and
> I was hoping
> mod_perl would get installed. I need that.
Use rpm to see if it is installed:
rpm -qa | grep perl
or
rpm -qa | grep mod_perl
> Last night I also wrote to the Yellow Dog people and asked to buy
> installation support to help me get up and running-- so far
> no answer.
>
>
> Suggestions?
This list is pretty good for support. There are certainly some topics that
don't get answered to everyone's liking, but then, it's a noob list. But as
for YD's purchased support, it doesn't look good if they can't even give you
support support! [Would that be meta-support?]
Bill
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