yellowdog-newbie digest, Vol 1 #491 - 13 msgs
Brad Stone
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> 1. Unable to boot from my G3 B&W (Hans van Schooten)
> 2. Installed YDL, can't boot to OSX anymore (David Schneider)
> 3. Re: Installed YDL, can't boot to OSX anymore (Steve Munsell)
> 4. Re: Installed YDL, can't boot to OSX anymore (David Schneider)
> 5. Removing solid dragging in Gnome (Daniel Koskinen)
> 6. Re: how to use samba (Andrew McVinnie)
> 7. Re: how to use samba (Andrew McVinnie)
> 8. Kmail and URLs (Nate Birkholz)
> 9. A few questions (John Dennis)
> 10. One question I forgot (John Dennis)
> 11. Re: One question I forgot (David Orlovich)
> 12. i386 applications (John Dennis)
> 13. Re: i386 applications (Ron Smith)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 22:15:38 +0200
> Subject: Unable to boot from my G3 B&W
> From: Hans van Schooten <hvsch@xs4all.nl>
> To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
>
> I can't seem to get the YDL 3.0 bootable on my G3 B&W even when giving
> a command in the open firmware looks like my open firmware is screwed,
> any suggestions??????
>
> The open firmware i have is 1.1f4 (3.1.1)
>
> sincerly Hans van Schooten
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 2
> Subject: Installed YDL, can't boot to OSX anymore
> From: David Schneider <dnschneider@earthlink.net>
> To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> Organization:
> Date: 01 Jun 2003 15:28:49 -0700
> Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
>
> Help! I just installed YDL 3.0, and it's working just fine. The problem
> is, I can no longer boot into OSX. When I hit 'x' at yaboot, OSX starts
> to load, I get the gray screen with the Apple logo and the chasing
> lines, but after a minute or so, the Apple logo changes into a circle
> with a line through it and nothing else happens.
>
> YDL was installed on a separate, internal drive. As recommended by the
> installation guide, YDL was installed on a drive that is first in the
> chain and is jumpered as the master drive. That drive was the only one
> checked off in the installation for being written to, so the drive with
> OSX on it shouldn't have been touched at all as far as I can tell, so
> I'm not sure why it won't boot.
>
> Can anyone help me?
> David
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 18:44:44 -0400
> Subject: Re: Installed YDL, can't boot to OSX anymore
> From: Steve Munsell <sneferu@contagiousgraphics.com>
> To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
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> try d on boot up insted of x
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> before yaboot
>
>
> On Sunday, June 1, 2003, at 06:28 PM, David Schneider wrote:
>
> > Help! I just installed YDL 3.0, and it's working just fine. The problem
> > is, I can no longer boot into OSX. When I hit 'x' at yaboot, OSX starts
> > to load, I get the gray screen with the Apple logo and the chasing
> > lines, but after a minute or so, the Apple logo changes into a circle
> > with a line through it and nothing else happens.
> >
> > YDL was installed on a separate, internal drive. As recommended by the
> > installation guide, YDL was installed on a drive that is first in the
> > chain and is jumpered as the master drive. That drive was the only one
> > checked off in the installation for being written to, so the drive with
> > OSX on it shouldn't have been touched at all as far as I can tell, so
> > I'm not sure why it won't boot.
> >
> > Can anyone help me?
> > David
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
> >
> "The power of the press goes to the individual who owns one..."
>
> Steve Munsell
> steve@contagiousgraphics.com (work)
> sneferu@mac.com (personal)
>
> IM - TheSneferu
>
> Contagious Graphics
> 8107 Arrowridge Blvd Suite S
> Charlotte, NC 28273
> 704-529-5600
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> try d on boot up insted of x
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> before yaboot
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> On Sunday, June 1, 2003, at 06:28 PM, David Schneider wrote:
>
>
> <excerpt>Help! I just installed YDL 3.0, and it's working just fine.
> The problem
>
> is, I can no longer boot into OSX. When I hit 'x' at yaboot, OSX starts
>
> to load, I get the gray screen with the Apple logo and the chasing
>
> lines, but after a minute or so, the Apple logo changes into a circle
>
> with a line through it and nothing else happens.
>
>
> YDL was installed on a separate, internal drive. As recommended by the
>
> installation guide, YDL was installed on a drive that is first in the
>
> chain and is jumpered as the master drive. That drive was the only one
>
> checked off in the installation for being written to, so the drive with
>
> OSX on it shouldn't have been touched at all as far as I can tell, so
>
> I'm not sure why it won't boot.
>
>
> Can anyone help me?
>
> David
>
>
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> </excerpt><italic>"The power of the press goes to the individual who
> owns one..."
>
>
> Steve Munsell
>
> <underline><color><param>1919,1919,FFFF</param>steve@contagiousgraphics.com</color></underline>
> (work)
>
> <underline><color><param>1919,1919,FFFF</param>sneferu@mac.com</color></underline>
> (personal)
>
>
> IM - TheSneferu
>
>
> Contagious Graphics
>
> 8107 Arrowridge Blvd Suite S
>
> Charlotte, NC 28273
>
> 704-529-5600
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>
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> --__--__--
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 16:05:57 -0700
> Subject: Re: Installed YDL, can't boot to OSX anymore
> From: David Schneider <dnschneider@earthlink.net>
> To: <yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com>
> Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
>
> I've figured it out. Well, actually, I found the answer on the YDL general
> list. Apparently it's a bug in the YDL installer and one of the partitions
> it creates. Here's the message that details how to fix it, if anyone else is
> having the problem:
>
> http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/pipermail/yellowdog-general/2003-April/0
> 07186.html
>
> >> Help! I just installed YDL 3.0, and it's working just fine. The problem
> >> is, I can no longer boot into OSX. When I hit 'x' at yaboot, OSX starts
> >> to load, I get the gray screen with the Apple logo and the chasing
> >> lines, but after a minute or so, the Apple logo changes into a circle
> >> with a line through it and nothing else happens.
> >>
> >> YDL was installed on a separate, internal drive. As recommended by the
> >> installation guide, YDL was installed on a drive that is first in the
> >> chain and is jumpered as the master drive. That drive was the only one
> >> checked off in the installation for being written to, so the drive with
> >> OSX on it shouldn't have been touched at all as far as I can tell, so
> >> I'm not sure why it won't boot.
> >>
> >> Can anyone help me?
> >> David
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 5
> Subject: Removing solid dragging in Gnome
> From: Daniel Koskinen <dani@iki.fi>
> To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> Organization:
> Date: 02 Jun 2003 03:37:44 +0300
> Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
>
> Is there a way to remove solid dragging in Gnome on YDL other than
> recompiling Gnome? The "Windows" preference does not seem to offer this
> option.
> --
> Daniel Koskinen
> email: dani@iki.fi
> web: http://www.iki.fi/dani
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 19:23:01 -0600
> Subject: Re: how to use samba
> From: Andrew McVinnie <lintila@mac.com>
> To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
>
> Hi
>
> I have tried this procedure below, and it only halfway works.
>
> I can only see windows servers that are running Windows 2000 or XP. My
> mac os x and my other windows machines can all see all of the servers.
> Is there a reason for this? Is samba something new? do old windopws NT
> servers use it?
>
> Thanks
> Andy
>
> On Sunday, June 1, 2003, at 11:25 AM, Joe Froehlich wrote:
>
> > To connect to a Windows machine from a Linux machine, all you need is
> > the
> > smb protocol. Entering smb: in the address bar of a Nautilus window
> > will
> > display Windows machines that are hosting shared directories.
> >
> > If you want Windows machines to access shared directories on your Linux
> > machine, you need to configure Samba.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: yellowdog-newbie-admin@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> >> [mailto:yellowdog-newbie-admin@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com]On Behalf
> >> Of
> >> Andrew McVinnie
> >> Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 11:22 AM
> >> To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> >> Subject: Re: how to use samba
> >>
> >
> >> Another good question, lets say you are on a Winblows network that is
> >> older than Samba... Uses Windows File Sharing... How do you see that
> >> Windows Server?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Andy
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 19:28:42 -0600
> Subject: Re: how to use samba
> From: Andrew McVinnie <lintila@mac.com>
> To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
>
> Hello
>
> <sarcasm>
> Thanks for the detailed help in the newbie list. It was informative and
> to the point. Silly me.
> </sarcasm>
>
> Andy
>
>
> On Sunday, June 1, 2003, at 11:07 AM, Mike Murphree wrote:
>
> >
> > On Sunday, June 1, 2003, at 10:22 AM, Andrew McVinnie wrote:
> >
> >> That how to is great, but lets say....
> >>
> >> You use a Linix machine in a all Apple work environment, and YOU need
> >> to see the Apple server. The same server that everyone else sees and
> >> uses... How would you do that?
> >
> > As the other guy said, use "netatalk".
> >
> >>
> >> Another good question, lets say you are on a Winblows network that is
> >> older than Samba... Uses Windows File Sharing... How do you see that
> >> Windows Server?
> >
> > Windows File Sharing still needs Samba...
> >
> > Mike
> >
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>
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> Message: 8
> From: Nate Birkholz <birkholz@visi.com>
> To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> Subject: Kmail and URLs
> Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 21:40:13 -0500
> Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
>
> When I click on a URL in Kmail, it opens the link in my browser (I use=20
> mozilla, but it doesn't matter which browser I use), but it actually=20
> downloads the URL to disk and then opens it as a local file. I just=20
> want it to send me to the remote file normally. Anyone know how to=20
> configure that?
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 9
> From: John Dennis <jmdennis@atsecure.net>
> To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> Subject: A few questions
> Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 19:59:14 -0700
> Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
>
> I have 3 questions to ask.
>
> 1. What keys do I press to emulate a multi button mouse. I have a Wallstreet
> with a trackpad. I saw where I could emulate a 3 button mouse, but I do not
> know which keys to hit to do this.
>
> 2. I am having a problem with items on my desktop. I copied kppp and kmail
> to my desktop. When I click on kppp and start it up it works fine. If I try
> to click on any thing else on my desktop it will not start up. I can open
> them from the menu, but not on my desktop. If I go to minimize what I am
> working on it does not show any thing on my desktop even though their are
> items there.
>
> 3. How do I go about setting up myself so I do not have to put in the root
> password? I don't want to change it for every thing as I know some things
> should just be done with root. What I want to change are those things such
> as kppp. I do not want to have to enter the root password each time I launch
> this application.
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 10
> From: John Dennis <jmdennis@atsecure.net>
> To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> Subject: One question I forgot
> Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 20:13:49 -0700
> Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
>
> I forgot to ask one question. I popped a cd into my cd player and it would
> not play. I started one of the players, but it did not find my disc that I
> installed. It used to show up using OS 9 and even OS X. I am not sure how
> to set this up so I can play my music while using YDL.
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 15:21:06 +1200
> From: "David Orlovich" <david.orlovich@botany.otago.ac.nz>
> To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> Subject: Re: One question I forgot
> Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
>
> hello John et al.
>
> I think you do something like:
>
> mount /dev/cdrom
>
> or
>
> mount /cd
>
> at the command line
>
> David.
>
>
> John Dennis wrote:
>
> >I forgot to ask one question. I popped a cd into my cd player and it would
> >not play. I started one of the players, but it did not find my disc that I
> >installed. It used to show up using OS 9 and even OS X. I am not sure how
> >to set this up so I can play my music while using YDL.
> >_______________________________________________
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>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 12
> From: John Dennis <jmdennis@atsecure.net>
> To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> Subject: i386 applications
> Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 21:13:42 -0700
> Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
>
> Is there any way to download these applications and run them? What I mean are
> those that are compiled for Windows linux machines. I know that I could get
> the source code and compile it if they had it. I also know that most of the
> applications that YDL uses were probably written for linux. I know for some
> of the items I could use yum or apt-get if I could get it to work. I want
> applications such as Kapital that have demo's, but these are all for i386. I
> know this is a foolish question, but since I do not have much background in
> linux I thought I would ask it.
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 21:59:33 -0700
> Subject: Re: i386 applications
> From: Ron Smith <ronsmith@ydl.net>
> To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> Reply-To: yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
>
> No, you will not be able to run your i386 binaries on YDL.
>
> The short answer is that the hardware is so different, which is why
> there is Windows vs. MacOS and i386 vs PPC versions of linux. Granted,
> the linux kernel source code is the same, but that source code has to
> be compiled for the specific hardware that is going to be used.
> Speaking very generally you can compile a kernel to run on a G4 and it
> should run on any G4 (assuming the rest of the hardware is supported by
> kernel or it can load modules to support them, but that is a little
> more technical than you might care about). However that kernel will not
> run on a Pentium of any sort.
>
> That is actually the problem that Java is trying to solve. The idea is
> to write code in Java that runs on a "Java Virtual Machine." The JVM is
> really a piece of software that runs the Java code. All that has to be
> done is to write a Java Virtual Machine for the hardware that you want
> to run it on and you can run *any* Java program. That is why Windows
> has it's own JVM, MacOS has it's own JVM, and Linux has its own JVM,
> etc...
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> -Ron
>
> On Sunday, June 1, 2003, at 09:13 PM, John Dennis wrote:
>
> > Is there any way to download these applications and run them? What I
> > mean are
> > those that are compiled for Windows linux machines. I know that I
> > could get
> > the source code and compile it if they had it. I also know that most
> > of the
> > applications that YDL uses were probably written for linux. I know
> > for some
> > of the items I could use yum or apt-get if I could get it to work. I
> > want
> > applications such as Kapital that have demo's, but these are all for
> > i386. I
> > know this is a foolish question, but since I do not have much
> > background in
> > linux I thought I would ask it.
> > _______________________________________________
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