Howto?: network a Beige OSX and 7600 YDL2.3

[David Purdy]

Thanks again, Ron:

Your words encouraged me to give it another try...

I did a /usr/lib/yi/network.py  ,
like it says to do in the HowTo pages...and viola,
...ping returned 100%.

I had tried to configure the network/ethernet via the
control panels before, but it must not have worked. 
The command line stuff did the trick.

I was able to ftp back and forth between the two
computers...very successful.  I was also able to afp
from the OSX box to the YDL machine.

I didn't try the reverse direction from the YDL
machine.

We just got a router/DSL modem and I am looking
forward to hooking these things all up together
(iBook, PowerBook, minitower and 7600 YDL box.).  What
fun!

Thanks for the help.

Regards,

Dave


--- ron <ronsmith28@attbi.com> wrote:
> Q0: Yes, you can still network 2 machines with the
> crossover cable.
> 
> Now, just for clarity, there is a difference between
> a router, a 
> switch, and a hub.
> 
> A router is "smart" and must be configured so that
> it can make 
> decisions about where/how to route traffic (data)
> through it. Routers 
> tend to be more expensive and more difficult to
> configure than hubs or 
> switches.
> 
> A hub is "dumb" and simply talks to all the devices
> that are connected 
> to it. For instance, if there is a hub with 3
> computers attached to it 
> (computers A, B, and C) and computer A wants to send
> something to 
> computer C then it sends the traffic out of it's
> (A's) ethernet port. 
> It reaches the hub and the hub " broadcasts" this
> traffic to *every* 
> device plugged into it. It is up to computer C to
> recognize that the 
> traffic is intended for it and for computer B to
> decide that the 
> traffic is not intended for it and to ignore it. A
> hub cannot be 
> configured, it just listens on all of its ports and
> whenever traffic is 
> sent to it, it sends that traffic out of all the
> rest of its ports.
> 
> A switch is "slightly smart" and does not
> "broadcast" all traffic to 
> all computers attached to it. It is smart enough to
> know which computer 
> is connected to which one of its ports and send the
> data it receives 
> out to the correct computer. Generally there is not
> much configuring 
> that needs to be done on a switch. Often there is no
> configuration 
> needed.
> 
> Q1: As far as OS X goes, yes, that is how you
> configure it.  For YDL, I 
> am not sure, maybe someone else can help out there.
> I have been using 
> YDL for only a week and it is the 3.0 version. When
> I installed it I 
> set my iBook up to get a DHCP lease, so I haven't
> had to manually 
> configure any networking stuff.
> 
> If you normally use the YDL machine on another
> network and only want to 
> make a temporary change (until next reboot) you can
> use the ifconfig 
> command to do that. I can probably help you figure
> that out if you want 
> to go that route.
> 
> Q2: That is a good question-- you can use just about
> anything you like: 
> ftp, ssh, telnet, or whatever. All of those are
> command line utilities 
> (I think there are some graphical front ends for X
> for some of them, 
> but I have never used them). If you turn on the
> Personal Web Sharing in 
> OS X (system prefs/sharing) you should be able to
> see the OS X machine 
> with a the browser on YDL. You would just go to:
> 
> http://10.10.10.5/
> 
> and unless you have something else set  up it will
> probably just be the 
> default apache web page.
> 
> You can also turn on the Personal File Sharing and
> you should be able 
> to:
> 
> afp://10.10.10.5
> 
> If the browser you are using in YDL supports it.
> 
> Once you have the two machines on the same network,
> you might want to 
> try and set up SAMBA for filesharing between them.
> There might be an 
> easier way to set up filesharing with OS X and YDL,
> but I am unaware of 
> any. I will play around with this later today and
> see if I can come up 
> with something more useful.
> 
> Q4: The connections I have described are TCP/IP. I
> am not sure where 
> AppleTalk fits into the picture other than I am
> pretty sure that 
> AppleTalk can use TCP/IP to get from one machine to
> another. To the 
> best of my knowledge it is just kind of magic and
> "just works." I wish 
> I could be more help here.
> 


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