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Derick Centeno yellowdog-newbie@lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
04 Sep 2004 09:03:32 -0400


Glad I could help!

It is the nature of how Linux is put together (so many contributors --
think of it -- from all over the planet) that is itself a challenge to
human activity.  Humans have never interacted on anything in history
this complex from so large or expansive a distance under such varying
social, political and psychological ...well, environments!  

That anything works at all (as my old Philosophy professor used to say)
is a wonder at all!  It will be interesting to see humanity fare as it
journies through the solar system and beyond where delays in
communication will be unavoidable due to the limits set by the speed of
light.  Will those critical projects be at least as good as Linux is now
or will such efforts fail because response times are too slow?

Interesting problem..anyway...enough recommendation for tolerance and
patience with Linux or anything else... cannot be mentioned enough. 
TerraSoft, or any other body of humans, cannot help but to focus on a
set of duties and rely upon others to do their set of duties at least as
well.

This kind of work process is well understood and has worked well
throughout human history from individual families to the building of
nations -- for centuries.  The question is whether this model still
works for something as large and planet wide as Linux is? 

This question can only be answered with time...meanwhile you and I and
many others will move on mucking along trying to make sense of what
everyone else has produced or worked upon as solved or known.  That this
problem happened with software distributed from TerraSoft's own website
or mirrors is a little different than a professor having to correct
errata found in his/her publications...as well as more difficult to spot
or perceive.

I'm curious as to how well humanity will either achieve greater
cohesiveness and cooperation across all boundaries overcoming such
errors we have spoken of (and conquer other serious problems) or split
itself into competing weaker factions as it has in its past.  

It is human fate to live and have to live, and hopefully learn, through
time.  

On Fri, 2004-09-03 at 20:25, Steven Didier wrote:
> Derick Centeno wrote:
> 
> >My reading of what you posted is that the update process "broke" because
> >the rules needed to build the target driver, that is -- the instructions
> >telling make how to proceed and put different things together -- were
> >"not found" and that is why make stopped itself.  That much is
> >explicit.  The reason this sequence repeats no matter "how often you
> >recompile" is that the instructions are just not there!
> >
> >The solution however is more complex, you will have to find a complete
> >source of the kernel; not a patch or merely components of kernel source
> >which yum sometimes installs.  This is not so easy.
> >
> >I recommend reading this bit of information which is posted by TSS:
> >
> >http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/support/solutions/ydl_general/kernels.shtml
> >
> >Note the websites mentioned and look for complete kernels.  Make sure
> >you have the space to store it and the bandwidth to not spend the rest
> >of your life waiting for it.  Then you should not be missing anything,
> >but you may have to spend time excluding stuff you don't use.
> >
> >My own philosophy is similar to shopping; choose a big store and take
> >the time to look about and make your selections carefully.  Best
> >wishes...
> >
> >On Wed, 2004-09-01 at 19:29, Steven Didier wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>I have been trying to update my kernel and I can't seem to get past this 
> >>point:
> >>CC      fs/hfsplus/part_tbl.o
> >>  LD      fs/hfsplus/hfsplus.o
> >>  LD      fs/hfsplus/built-in.o
> >>  CC      fs/proc/root.o
> >>  LD      fs/proc/proc.o
> >>  LD      fs/proc/built-in.o
> >>  LD      fs/built-in.o
> >>  LD      drivers/bluetooth/built-in.o
> >>  CC      drivers/char/tty_io.o
> >>  CC      drivers/char/vt_ioctl.o
> >>  CC      drivers/char/vc_screen.o
> >>  CC      drivers/char/consolemap.o
> >>  CC      drivers/char/selection.o
> >>  CC      drivers/char/keyboard.o
> >>  CC      drivers/char/vt.o
> >>  CC      drivers/char/agp/backend.o
> >>  CC      drivers/char/agp/frontend.o
> >>  CC      drivers/char/agp/generic.o
> >>make[3]: *** No rule to make target `drivers/char/agp/isoch.s', needed 
> >>by `drivers/char/agp/isoch.o'.  Stop.
> >>make[2]: *** [drivers/char/agp] Error 2
> >>make[1]: *** [drivers/char] Error 2
> >>make: *** [drivers] Error 2
> >>
> >>I have checked, changed settings recompiled till I'm blue in the face. 
> >>Can anyone tell me what it is I need to uncheck or enable to get past 
> >>this point!
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >>
> >>Steve
> >>    
> >>
> >
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> >
> Thanks Derrick, actually I 've read that article several times over but 
> this is the first time someone has taken the time to explain why this is 
> happening!! That was a 32.6MB source download but it certainly is 
> possible that I didn't get it all!
> 
> Thank you for the help!
> Steve