yellowdog-newbie Digest, Vol 11, Issue 1

Wed Jul 6 01:34:58 MDT 2005

Derick,

Thank you for your quick reply. My daughter has OS 10.3 and we have XP
on a machine that NEVER goes online. I liked OS 7, 7.6 and 8.1 better
than 8.6, but had to upgrade for compatability. I've never tried 9.2,
and feel that OS 10 has too much of XPs cartoon like Fisher-Price feel
to them.  I use twelve year old DECs at work for a program Tom Clancy
mentions in every movie, but must remain unmentioned here and I'm
equally happy with a nine year old machine at home. It might be worth
buying a Mini from TerraSoft preloaded with YDL to have a learning box.
In the meanwhile if anyone tried to run YDL 2.0 on a Sonnet card or
Clone and remembers any issue with kernal panic please throw me a bone.

Joe

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>    1. YDL2.0/OS8.6/UMAX J700/SonnetG3 Kernal Panic (Joe Reuter)
>    2. Re: YDL2.0/OS8.6/UMAX J700/SonnetG3 Kernal Panic (Derick Centeno)
>    3. Re: YDL2.0/OS8.6/UMAX J700/SonnetG3 Kernal Panic (Derick Centeno)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 23:22:47 -0700
> From: Joe Reuter <reuterj at pacbell.net>
> Subject: YDL2.0/OS8.6/UMAX J700/SonnetG3 Kernal Panic
> To: yellowdog-newbie at lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> Message-ID: <42CA2730.614F19AF at pacbell.net>
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> Hello. New to group and Linux. System boots to Mac OS fine, when booting
> to YDL, "kernal panic, rebooting in 180 seconds" displays. Did I botch
> the install or ? Any advice appreciated.
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:21:57 -0400
> From: Derick Centeno <aguilarojo at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: YDL2.0/OS8.6/UMAX J700/SonnetG3 Kernal Panic
> To: Yellow Dog Linux Newbie List
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> 
> Hi Joe:
> You really are too far back in the version of YDL you are using.  Get
> online and download the YDL ISO for YDL 3.0.1; it'll work well with Mac
> OS 8.6 AND remember to change the kernel used in BootX!  Also remember
> that although BootX can hold more than one kernel, the kernel you do
> use must be selected each time "on the fly" however if that is too
> bothersome, BootX can be set so that one and only one kernel is
> pre-selected everytime BootX is invoked.  That same feature of BootX
> also allows the option that your Mac boots into YDL, instead of the
> MacOS.  So there are lots of options... if you think things out
> carefully enough.
> 
> While you are at it, find out whether the Mac you are using is Old
> World or New World.  Meaning is it an early Beige G3 or an early G4.
> The difference is that New World (G4) based computers can use yaboot
> instead of BootX to boot into YDL by just depressing the "c" key on the
> keyboard; G3 models need to use BootX, as a general rule.  IF you have
> a New World machine you may not need to rely upon BootX, or for that
> matter restrict yourself to YDL 2 or 3.0.1, but can download YDL 4.0
> ISOs and create your own CDs.  This is best done (ie. the downloading)
> by using either broadband or cable, dial-up just tests one's patience.
> 
> For more details on various concepts or topics refer to the articles
> written here:
> 
> http://www.sharplabs.com:8668/space/start
> 
> As stated IF you have a New World machine you could run YDL 4.0 (after
> having set up the necessary Linux partitions of course; double check to
> make sure your current partitions are sufficiently spacious for /,
> bootmap, etc. Your kernel may thank you afterwards by behaving
> properly; maybe the pointer from the kernel in BootX doesn't know where
> the kernel on your partition actually is, because you didn't set BootX
> to the correct kernel within the MacOS in the first place?
> 
> You don't need to move up to OS X if your current system is not New
> World; but if it is New World you really should as OS X is really,
> really nice.
> Besides, IF you have a NEW WORLD machine, you can move up to YDL 4.0
> regardless whether you move up to OS X or not, and remember you can,
> under that situation, directly boot into YDL via yaboot.
> 
> Best wishes....
> 
> On Jul 5, 2005, at 2:22 AM, Joe Reuter wrote:
> 
> > Hello. New to group and Linux. System boots to Mac OS fine, when
> > booting
> > to YDL, "kernal panic, rebooting in 180 seconds" displays. Did I botch
> > the install or ? Any advice appreciated.
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:58:57 -0400
> From: Derick Centeno <aguilarojo at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: YDL2.0/OS8.6/UMAX J700/SonnetG3 Kernal Panic
> To: Yellow Dog Linux Newbie List
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> Hi Again Joe:
> Silly Me... I didn't read the rest of your subject heading to notice
> that you are using a UmaxJ700 with a SonnetG3 PCI based board.
> 
> You will have to slog through searching Google for more details but I
> believe I read a while ago that YDL 3.0.1 could be run using a PCI
> based G3, but YDL 4.0 could not.  This will definitely hold you back
> regarding Linux is concerned; you have some other options:
> 
> If you've decided that PowerPC Linux is really your thing and Apple's
> move to Intel be damned, then you might as well move up to a New World
> Apple PowerPC G4 while keeping you older keyboard and other computer
> components by getting a miniMac.  You can get it new, refurbished or
> used from:
> 
> http://www.smalldog.com/showroom.html
> 
> The advantage will be there will be NO question that YDL 4.0 and higher
> will run on it.  Also you will be able to run OS 9, X AND TIGER on it.
> BUT DEFINITELY WILL NOT NEED BOOTX ANY MORE AS YABOOT WILL RUN IT THE
> FIRST TIME.
> 
> You can also decide to not follow the PowerPC wagon, but instead wait
> for Apple to produce it's Intel based Mac and see if Red Hat will run
> on that box, laptop or whatever.
> 
> Again best wishes....
> 
> On Jul 5, 2005, at 1:21 PM, Derick Centeno wrote:
> 
> > Hi Joe:
> > You really are too far back in the version of YDL you are using.  Get
> > online and download the YDL ISO for YDL 3.0.1; it'll work well with
> > Mac OS 8.6 AND remember to change the kernel used in BootX!  Also
> > remember that although BootX can hold more than one kernel, the kernel
> > you do use must be selected each time "on the fly" however if that is
> > too bothersome, BootX can be set so that one and only one kernel is
> > pre-selected everytime BootX is invoked.  That same feature of BootX
> > also allows the option that your Mac boots into YDL, instead of the
> > MacOS.  So there are lots of options... if you think things out
> > carefully enough.
> >
> > While you are at it, find out whether the Mac you are using is Old
> > World or New World.  Meaning is it an early Beige G3 or an early G4.
> > The difference is that New World (G4) based computers can use yaboot
> > instead of BootX to boot into YDL by just depressing the "c" key on
> > the keyboard; G3 models need to use BootX, as a general rule.  IF you
> > have a New World machine you may not need to rely upon BootX, or for
> > that matter restrict yourself to YDL 2 or 3.0.1, but can download YDL
> > 4.0 ISOs and create your own CDs.  This is best done (ie. the
> > downloading) by using either broadband or cable, dial-up just tests
> > one's patience.
> >
> > For more details on various concepts or topics refer to the articles
> > written here:
> >
> > http://www.sharplabs.com:8668/space/start
> >
> > As stated IF you have a New World machine you could run YDL 4.0 (after
> > having set up the necessary Linux partitions of course; double check
> > to make sure your current partitions are sufficiently spacious for /,
> > bootmap, etc. Your kernel may thank you afterwards by behaving
> > properly; maybe the pointer from the kernel in BootX doesn't know
> > where the kernel on your partition actually is, because you didn't set
> > BootX to the correct kernel within the MacOS in the first place?
> >
> > You don't need to move up to OS X if your current system is not New
> > World; but if it is New World you really should as OS X is really,
> > really nice.
> > Besides, IF you have a NEW WORLD machine, you can move up to YDL 4.0
> > regardless whether you move up to OS X or not, and remember you can,
> > under that situation, directly boot into YDL via yaboot.
> >
> > Best wishes....
> >
> > On Jul 5, 2005, at 2:22 AM, Joe Reuter wrote:
> >
> >> Hello. New to group and Linux. System boots to Mac OS fine, when
> >> booting
> >> to YDL, "kernal panic, rebooting in 180 seconds" displays. Did I botch
> >> the install or ? Any advice appreciated.
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