Trying to install on a 3400c PowerBook. Help!

[Deacon Nikolai]

Dear Derick,

     I apologize for not being clearer.

I originally meant to install 4.0.1 on my 3400c but thanks to you I  
realized this was not possible. After finally burning the CDs  
correctly, I installed 4.0.1 on my iBook running Mac OSX 10.4.2. This  
was very simple for me and has been running like a dream.

     Daily I seem to keep learning more from both trial and error and  
your emails. What I am having trouble with now is my 3400c. I have a  
minimal install of Mac OS 8.5 on it. I got BootX working finally and  
am able to get it to start booting from the 3.0.1 CD to install.  
However I am getting errors when trying this. It does not always stop  
at the same point, but I have gotten various messages before it  
stopped including most often "I can't recover from this" and "Warning  
unable to open an initial console" and "Will reboot in 180 seconds".

     I have been trying to access the site you mention on my iBook,  
but keep getting this error when trying: Safari can’t open the page  
“http://www.sharplabs.com:8668/space/start” because it could not  
connect to the server “www.sharplabs.com”. yet I can got to  
www.sharplabs.com just fine!

     I will try going to in in Firefox after I get it from Yum thanks  
to your help! Thank you again Derick!

In Christ,
Deacon Nikolai
http://www.Stanosheck.com

On Aug 8, 2005, at 12:14 PM, Derick Centeno wrote:

> Dear Deacon:
> As usual the dance of complexity is already developing and soon you  
> will have your own little private twister (or tornado)!  Judging  
> from the nature of the questions, perhaps this is happening already.
>
> If you read carefully what I wrote previously I was very specific  
> with what OS, BootX was associated with.  BootX was designed to be  
> used as a Control Panel application and therefore can only work  
> with Classic OS, which means Mac OS 9 & LOWER.
>
> MacOS X doesn't need BootX at all.  Also I believe I stated that  
> YDL 4 and higher was designed for Mac OS X only.  I also stated  
> that the earlier versions of YDL are optimized for Macs using the  
> Classic OS.
>
> The PB 3400 may have originally come with MacOS 8 or 8.5.  In any  
> case, it is considered a Classic OS and will need BootX installed  
> as a Control Panel.  All you need to do is find BootX on the first  
> CD of YDL 3.0 and while within the MacOS copy BootX from YDL  
> Install Disk 1 and drop BootX onto the System Folder of the Classic  
> Mac OS.  Only after BootX is properly installed in the System  
> Folder then you must follow the other directions provided regarding  
> setting up BootX, such as copying the Linux kernel into a Folder  
> where BootX can see it, set up your video, set up the RAM disk for  
> Linux to use and bootup from, and not much more than that.  These  
> are just some of the preparations necessary to be done within the  
> Classic OS BEFORE you attempt running YDL.  Installing YDL ALSO  
> requires the use of BootX, but this time for this situation, BootX  
> has different settings.  What settings are necessary for which task  
> and at what point are included (review the READ ME file carefully)  
> on the first YDL installation disk of YDL 2.0 and YDL 3.0; if you  
> can't find it (the READ ME), then do a search on Google for more  
> information on BootX.
>
> Believe me Deacon, there are other ways of doing Linux, I'm merely  
> narrowing the possibilities of discussion so I don't rewrite  
> Wikipedia!
>
> After implementing these preliminary procedures with BootX, then  
> you will then find booting into Linux through BootX to be something  
> you get used to.
>
> Let's imagine (I hope sincerely this can eventually happen for you,  
> but right now let's use imagination) you are in Linux and finally  
> can see the Linux Desktop.  You will find the Kicker (not quite the  
> same as the Windows taskbar, experience will show you why) and all  
> other applications of your interest or that you could be interested  
> in.  If Firefox is not installed you can install it using yum.  The  
> command sequence is:
>
> yum install firefox
>
> This applies to any application you may wish to install.
> You can also check using yum to see if there is a ppc version of  
> the application of your interest.  You want to check flash, then do:
>
> yum search flash
>
> then yum will list what it finds.  IF it finds flash then it can  
> also install it for you
>
> yum install flash
>
> Of course, that's the easy part.
> There is a file (yum.conf) which yum refers to which needs to be  
> updated so that it references and searches the most useful, current  
> and useable libraries (called repositories).
> It is up to you to do that.  Although others have done this before  
> and put together there experiences and knowledge onto the YDL FAQ  
> pages.
> I don't know if you can access this information resource, the  
> Yellow Dog Linux Frequently Asked Questions (YDL FAQ) pages but if  
> you can, study it.  Many of your questions which I merely skimmed  
> over here, are addressed there in more detail:
>
> http://www.sharplabs.com:8668/space/start
>
> Although Thunderbird is ok. I found the application called  
> Evolution far more flexible and useful.  It functions more like Now  
> Contact and Now Up to Date as well as an email program with  
> encryption/decryption capability, and very many other things.  As  
> much as I like how OS X does things, I do miss Evolution.  I know  
> some people enjoy xmms, but you really out to try xine and  
> implement the GOOM application within it.
>
> Best wishes...
>
> On Aug 7, 2005, at 4:50 PM, Deacon Nikolai wrote:
>
>
>> Dear Derick,
>>
>>     Thank you again. Both for your help and honesty of the  
>> situation. I
>> finally figured out how to burn the ISOs correctly on my other  
>> Mac, an
>> iBook that is running Mac OS X 10.4. I am actually using that  
>> iBook with
>> YDL 4.0.1 installed on a small partition. I also found some 3.0.l  
>> ISOs
>> and burned them to CDs.
>>
>>     In the past I actually had this 3400c (by using some major hacks)
>> running 9.2.2! It really slowed things down though. I think I was as
>> happiest with 9.2.1.
>>
>>     Anyway, where is the best place to put BootX in the Mac OS X  
>> folder
>> hierarchy when I add it to my 3400c? Without it, my 3400c does not  
>> seem
>> to recognize the 3.0.1 CDs as a start up disk. Should this be  
>> expected?
>>
>>     One more total newbie question. How do I install Firefox and
>> Thunderbird? I am not sure how to use YUM or get updated or new
>> software. Also is is possible to install Flash?
>>
>>     Thanks again for all the help!
>>
>> In Christ,
>> Deacon Nikolai
>> http://www.Stanosheck.com
>>
>
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