G5 installation
Dru Kepple
dru.ydl at gmail.com
Sat Nov 12 17:51:47 MST 2005
Thank you Ian. That was helpful. I did in fact come across the
"Quiet your fan" article a while back... I was intending to utilize
that should I have been able to get YDL installed.
Just to be clear, I wasn't trying to insinuate that I was annoyed at
having to wait for an update to YDL to support my machine. I was just
asking how long the average release cycle might be, or if anyone knew
of any proposed release dates for an update that might support my
machine. All I could find on the YDL site was "we're working on it,"
which is good to know, but that answers one question and raises two
more.
I had also seen the YDL.net thing...I'm just the sort of person who is
testing the waters of Linux, purely for fun, purely at home on my own
budget, so being able to use the freely available distros is a pretty
high priority for me. I was tempted...but then I remembered how my
wife just wouldn't understand where that money was going...
So...let me see if I'm understanding you right. It sounds like 4.0.91
adds support for the dual 2.7, but it is currently only available too
subscribers to YDL.net. if that's the case, does anyone know when
releases are migrated from the subscription area to the general
public? I don't need exact dates, I'm just looking for a ballpark
general idea of it's going to be possibly next week, or three years
from now.
Thanks again. My impression of the community is improving.
Dru
On 11/12/05, Ian King <iking at intrepidls.com> wrote:
> Dru,
>
> Yup, you found a genuine pompous [insert anatomical reference here] - welcome to the "community." :-)
>
> Regarding the question you asked: I had similar issues. YDL 4.0.1 does not contain a needed patch to address changes in the SATA hardware (at least that's the explanation I've found), but YDL 4.0.91 does. So I paid for access to ydl.net in order to get that package. It wasn't an unmitigated blessing, but it did allow me to get up and running. If you're not terribly familiar with Linux on PPC, it's probably the best (and most cost-effective) way to go.
>
> However, the other problem I had with 4.0.91 was that the machine sounded like a vacuum cleaner after about ten minutes - the thermal management stuff doesn't work on Powermac 7,3. After some research on my own on sites like penguinppc.com, I found a patch that fixes this - see my post in the YDL forum under "G4, G5 and XServe" on "Bought a new G5 tower? Quiet your fan!"
>
> As you imply in one of your questions, YDL does expect you to wait until they come out with a new release, which isn't necessarily realistic. But that's the reality of the "Linux community": either you are dependent on the folks who produce a particular distribution (really, much like being dependent on any other software vendor, such as Microsoft or Apple) OR you develop the skills (relatively modest, these days) to make changes yourself. The positive thing about open source software is that you may do so; the down side is that often, you MUST.
>
> Ignore the pompous [insert plural anatomical reference], sort through the drivel, and welcome to the wonderful, wacky world of open source. -- Ian
>
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> 1. G5 installation (Dru Kepple)
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> 5. Re: G5 installation (Cian Duffy)
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> Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 14:11:15 -0800
> From: Dru Kepple <dru.ydl at gmail.com>
> Subject: G5 installation
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> Hi. I'm new to Linux, new to Yellow Dog, new to this mailing list.
> Forgive me if the question I'm asking has an obvious anwer that's
> already been posted.
>
> So, I have a dual 2.7 GHz G5 that seems to have bombed while I was
> updating to 10.4.3. I thought, hey, if I need to reinstall everything
> anyway, why not set things up for a dual-boot Linux system?
>
> So I did everything according to directions i found online and also in
> the Linux Bible 2005, and have a "free space" partition of about 20 GB
> set up on my main drive, as the first partition, and the rest I
> devoted to OS X.
>
> After getting OS X reinstalled, I stuck in the YDL 4.0.1 CD, disc 1,
> and rebooted. After typing install-g5 at the prompt, things started
> to, for lack of a better word, go.
>
> First text flashed across the screen, then more text flashed, except
> this time it looked a lot like the text that creeps over a Mac screen
> when a kernel panic occurs, and then more text flashed across the
> screen, this time being more like terminal text (actually, it looked
> more like a PC when they boot up...). It came to a halt, and most of
> it was a numbers and letters, but the last two lines said something
> about a kernel panic, and then rebooting in 180 seconds. And it did
> just that.
>
> After a quick glance at the yellow dog site, I did see that my model
> of computer wasn't officially supported. And there were many
> "D'oh's."
>
> So my question(s) is(are): is what happened what I should have
> expected to have happened (assuming I knew about the dual 2.7
> incompatibilities)? Or did I do something wrong? Along those lines,
> is there anything to be done about this? Or do I just wait for an
> update to YDL? And if I wait, how long should I expect to wait? My
> particular model has been out for something like six months (I could
> be wrong, but I've had it for at least four)...how long do updates
> take?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Dru
>
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