YDL sound support for a G3 b&w clamshell (OT)

[Derick Centeno]

Mr. Oseguera:
I don't know what TSS will do.  However, the following may be useful to  
you:

Regarding the G3, in general it is best to use YDL 3 along with the  
program BootX which comes with YDL 3.  BootX is a control panel which  
functions within Mac OS 8/9 (otherwise known as Mac Classic OS).   
Essentially, BootX is the program used from within Mac OS 9 (or  
whatever is the Mac OS standard on that machine) to boot your Mac into  
YDL.  If you are willing to do the extra work it takes to use YDL 4 on  
an Old World Mac (in general, G3's and older) the instructions are  
here:

http://www.yellowdog-board.com/viewtopic.php?t=381

Remember Old World computers will always need BootX (there is an  
alternative to BootX, but I've read conflicting evaluations regarding  
the stability of those alternatives); and some G3's can directly boot  
into Linux via yaboot and some cannot (the differences are due to how  
Apple built those G3's and one model can differ from another produced  
only months earlier or later).  Although I am sure that G3's and G3's  
running YDL 4.0.1 are not "officially" supported by TSS that doesn't  
mean that some work around to get such a union working doesn't exist,  
but rather that as long as you hang on to the older architecture it  
will be harder to participate in the better code and updates intended  
for newer machines.

The monkey wrench of course, is that the hardware is Apple's and what  
is in there has to be lived with.  I had a nice 233MHz G3 tower which I  
used to run YDL but after all the convolutions necessary to run both OS  
9 as a prop to get into YDL; I had enough.  Now I use daily and  
exclusively a PB G4.  I really haven't bothered looking back since.   
The G4 can run YDL as the sole OS on the drive.  Yes, I have lived  
without the music.  I have lived even without the system beep.  I don't  
know when this will change anytime soon, or even if it will.  Only TSS  
knows for sure.

Does one dare dream?

On Nov 29, 2005, at 10:01 AM, Francisco Oseguera G. wrote:

> Thanks, Derick; OK, then that means I'll have to wait or downgrade.  
> Since I don't want to take the second choice, if I choose to wait, do  
> you know if YDL 4.1 will solve this, so that I'll be able to play  
> music in it again?
>  
> And, thinking of it again, it brings to my mind the question  
> about buying YDL at the online store, with installation support. To  
> me, it's kind of "the hen vs. the egg, who was first?". As many  
> others, I'd be glad to pay TSS for YDL but this only as long as it  
> works on my G3 ibook as flawless as it works on my daughter's G3 imac.
>  
> Does anyone (especially at TSS, of course) know if sound on my  
> ibook is close to be supported again by YDL?
>  
> Regards
> Francisco Oseguera G.
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 13:21:07 -0500
> > From: Derick Centeno
> > Subject: Re: YDL on a G3 b&w clamshell
> > To: Yellow Dog Linux Newbie List
> >
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> >
> > This might clear up those hardware considerations for YDL 4.0.1:
> >
> >  
> http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/support/hardware/breakdown/index.php
> >
> >
> > On Nov 28, 2005, at 10:44 AM, Francisco Oseguera G. wrote:
> >
> > > Hi, all. I was reading one of Derick's contributions to the forum,
> > > which contains the following:
> > > >
> > > > Just as a quick overview YDL 3 and earlier are best used for G3  
> and
> > > > earlier based Macs. The current version is YDL 4.0.1 which many
> > > modern
> > > > G4 and G5 Macs utilize best.
> > > >
> > > ...and I then realized that, perhaps, I'm not using the most
> > > appropiate version of YDL (4.0.1) on my G3 ibook; as a matter of  
> fact,
> > > except of sound, everything works quite well. On the sound issue, I
> > > cannot listen to CDs, not to say MP3 or midis; the only sound it
> > > emmits is the system beep.
> > > ?
> > > To me, it's been interesting to note that, on my daughter's imac  
> (G3
> > > b&w as well), with the very same 4.0.1, the sound dept. works
> > > remarkably well, which sets me kind of envious...
> > > ?
> > > Any comment, suggestion, unrest, marketing, etc. on the subject,  
> will
> > > be very wellcome.
> > > ?
> > > Regards
> > > Francisco Oseguera G.
> > > ?
> > > p.s. Derick: this time your contribution was warmer and, hence,
> > > more?agreable to read. Thank you.
>  
>
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