Parition Problem on G3 Installtion

[Stephen Ko]

Wow, what a friendly mailing list. All these responses in one day. My
sincere Thank You goes to you all who responded. :-)

One thing that I didn't mention is that as Olaf has said, the drive
was used on a different machine, gasp!(Windows). May be that's the
problem. I'll try Collin's method and report back.

Thank you again,
Stephen.

On 1/12/06, Olaf Olson <oolson at hadleyconnection.com> wrote:
> I have a G3 B&W, with two drives. One is 80 Gb and the other is 200Gb.
> The 200 Gb is partitioned into two smaller pieces (It's my wife's
> machine and she won't let me look to see exactly what the sizes are). I
> don't think this is what's causing the problem. Even then, it sounds
> like Stephen is installing on a blank disk. The installer should be able
> to  specify how to partition the entire disk and doesn't need anything
> else to decide what to do with it, unless...
>
> Was the drive already partitioned, using the apple utilities? Even if
> you are planning to erase the entire drive, in favor of a complete YDL
> installation and takeover of the drive, the section of the drive you're
> intending to use must be labeled as unused disk space, in order for the
> installer to deal with it. At least, that's what YDL 3.0 required. I
> suspect that 4 will do the same. I admit that I haven't upgraded, yet.
>
> Olaf
>
> Derick Centeno wrote:
>
> > My memory regarding the G3 is a bit fuzzy but I do recall reading
> > somewhere that the G3 cannot recognize drives large drives ranging
> > beyond 30G.  This is a limitation of the firmware and so there will
> > always be misinformation regarding what it sees and understands.  The
> > work around is to treat huge drives such as you are working with and
> > paritition them so that they are within a range that G3 systems are
> > familiar with -- the size of the drives which were in existence when
> > the G3 was in it's prime.  It may turn out that 30G may be that
> > optimal size, which means that the G3 could be helped to be more
> > efficient by partitioning the 200G drive into chunks 30G wide.
> >
> > A waste of a hard drive certainly, but older systems have an upper
> > bound limit which they are comfortable with.
> >
> > This is something to consider if Collin's solution doesn't pan out or
> > work in solving your difficulty.
> >
> > On Jan 12, 2006, at 10:51 PM, Collin O'Neill wrote:
> >
> >> How about re-writing the disk label in rescue mode? You can use
> >> parted or fdisk to re-write it.. THIS WILL DESTROY YOUR DATA, so if
> >> you have important data on the disk, back it up first or take another
> >> approach.
> >>
> >> 1. At the boot prompt, type "linux rescue".
> >> 2. Go through the rescue boot procedure.  It will probably ask you
> >> what language you want to speak and your keyboard's nationality.
> >> 3. I like parted unless fdisk does something special given the
> >> application, so type
> >> "parted [your device here]".  Most likely your device is /dev/hda.
> >> 4. Type "mklabel", and specify the "mac" partition table type.
> >> 5. Type "p" to see what it's done to your disk.  You should see a
> >> single 0.31MB partition dedicated to Apple bootstrap.
> >> 5. - if you want to specify partitions before installation, this is
> >> the place to do it.
> >> 6. Otherwise, type "q" to quit and "exit" to reboot and resume
> >> installation.
> >>
> >> -Collin
> >>
> >> Stephen Ko wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> I've spent several hours trying to install 4.0 on G3 but failed due to
> >>> partition problem. When I tried to partition 200GB, for some reason,
> >>> YDL reserves almost all the space to apple partition map(I think it
> >>> was around 190 GB) which only leaves me with 10 GB to play around
> >>> with. Neither the autopartition nor the disk druid seems to do the
> >>> trick. So I am pretty much stuck with 10 GB which apple bootstrap,
> >>> swap, and / must share.
> >>>
> >>> Can anyone please tell me what I am doing wrong?
> >>> Thank you,
> >>> Stephen.
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