No Firewire install possible?
Derick Centeno
aguilarojo at verizon.net
Fri Apr 7 19:50:00 MDT 2006
Hi Jason:
>From what you discussed it is a bit clearer that a different strategy
might work. For instance, the Apple Disk utility needs to be set to
partition both the partition for use by OS X and the partition for use
by Linux (which for us is YDL) -- at the same time. In other words, the
Apple Disk Utility should be instructed (splitting the Firewire drive
into 2) to prepare the partition for OS X by naming that partition as
MacSpace (for example) and formatted for hfs or hfs+; the Linux
partition should be named as (Untitled) and formatted as Free Space.
This is the precise time to determine how large the Linux partition will
be before you execute this step.
When the Apple Disk Utility finishes, all it will see will be the OS X
partition. At this point, this is where you return to the installation
portion of the same System CD so that you can install OS X onto that new
partition you created for OS X.
Or if there are essential files on the OS X portion of the Firewire
drive or elsewhere, back those files up before the above is executed.
Then after the backup is completed follow the steps above and then
reinstall those files onto the newly created OS X partition.
When that is complete, then you move onto following the standard install
process recommended by TSS onto the Linux portion of the Firewire drive.
Within the partition portion of the Linux installation process I don't
recall whether parted or something else is used pay attention to not
disturb the OS X partition structure. Your intention is to install and
create ext3 formatted sectors for Linux to use; it is really easy (too
easy) to misread the information and destroy the OS X partition
structure from within the Linux installation process. So select the
correct sectors and note where they are in your own shorthand somewhere;
insure the root and swap and user partitions are setup properly and then
your installation should proceed forward.
If there are still problems consider using a tool like Micromat's Tech
Tools Pro to test your drive and firewire ports.
Best of luck....
> > From: "Jason Christiansen" <jchristiansen at gmail.com>
> > Date: April 6, 2006 8:12:58 Pt M EDT
> > To: yellowdog-newbie at lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
> > Subject: Re: No Firewire install possible?
> > Reply-To: Discussion List for New Yellow Dog Linux Users
> > <yellowdog-newbie at lists.terrasoftsolutions.com>
> >
> > Hi everyone-
> >
> > Thanks for the replies. I figured there must be some other
> > people
> > having the same issues, so I figured I would post on the
> > list and see
> > if anyone had any qork-arounds to suggest.
> >
> > As for formatting and the MD5 checks, that is what I'm
> > doing, in the
> > order & manner you suggested. no problem mentioning it, I
> > usually
> > forget pretty basic things which would make it a lot easier
> > to get
> > things running.
> >
> > I do check the MD5 values against the values from TerraSoft,
> > with no
> > issues at all. All four downloaded images checked out
> > exactly the
> > same, which is why it puzzles me that #'s 2-4 pass all media
> > checks,
> > while #1 continues to fail.
> >
> > I use drive utility to partition the FW drive, with about
> > 20GB of
> > freespace at the top, and another partition beneath
> > formatted for OS
> > X. I then install a basic system of OS X on the second
> > partition, as
> > described in the manual so Anaconda can recignize the OS X
> > partition
> > and I can use the Mac on Linux functionality (if not, please
> > let me
> > know, I could definitely be doing something wrong). I then
> > boot from
> > Disk #1, but again, this might be a moot point since the
> > mediacheck
> > fails on this disk, so I might just be back to square 1.
> >
> > I'm definitely not giving up on this, I'm actually very
> > anxious to
> > start using YDL on my machine, but I'm starting to get to
> > the point of
> > thinking of getting another internal HD so I can just
> > install it
> > internally...the installer finds everything that's internal.
> >
> > If I'm getting anything wrong, or if anyone can think of
> > anything
> > else, pleae do let me know...I'm far from a power user (of
> > Linux,
> > anyway), so I can definitely be taking one (or several)
> > missteps.
> >
> > Thanks for all the help!
> >
> > -Jason
> >
> >
> > Hi Jason:
> > I am saddened that you are having so many problems. By the
> > way, I
> > really like that Will Rogers quote.
> >
> > Now to attempt to address at least a few questions or
> > issues.
> >
> > Was the firewire drive itself formatted according to the
> > directions
> > recommended and published in the installation manual?
> > The two step process involves the use of the Apple Disk
> > Utility to
> > partition the firewire drive so that it is formatted as Free
> > Space.
> > After that is done then the standard YDL installation
> > proceeds, and
> > then anaconda should have no trouble seeing the drive.
> >
> > Regarding the md5 test, it is a good idea to complete the
> > test before
> > the disks are burned and later tested by mediacheck.
> > The md5 test to use is invoked from within the Terminal
> > application
> > available within OS X. It is run upon the iso's you
> > downloaded and you
> > compare the md5 result of each iso against the actual md5
> > values
> > reported by TSS. If there is any variance at all no matter
> > how small
> > from the standard TSS md5 values, you know at that
> > point that there was
> > a problem with the download and it is at that point where
> > you proceed
> > to do a new download from a different or the same mirror
> > until the md5
> > values match. When they finally do match then that is the
> > iso to burn.
> >
> > Maybe you've tried the above; I mention them merely on the
> > chance that
> > one or both was something you skipped or otherwise omitted.
> >
> > Good Luck...
> >
> > On Apr 5, 2006, at 3:59 PM, Jason Christiansen wrote:
> >
> > I've been following a couple somewhat-related e-mail
> > chains on the
> > list here about some difficulties others are having
> > with the firewire
> > connectivity and YDL 4.1. However, I'm about to add
> > my quandry to the
> > list...
> >
> > I've downloaded the ISOs for YDL 4.1, and boot into
> > the installer
> > using the "install firewire" option. However, no
> > matter what I try,
> > when I get to Anaconda, it never sees the firewire
> > drive that I have
> > connected to the computer, just the two internal
> > disks. It's a G4
> > dual 450 (Gigabit Ethernet), Firewire drive is a
> > SanDisk 60GB,
> > connecting through the built-in firewire ports on
> > the Mac.
> >
> > One suspicion I have is that I've done the whole
> > media check routine,
> > and although disks #2-4 check out fine, disk #1
> > results in a fail. I
> > re-download the image, do an MD5 check successfully,
> > but it still
> > results in a fail after burning and booting. I've
> > downloaded, checked
> > and burned disk #1 several times, each time
> > resulting in a failed
> > mediacheck. Could this be the cause of the problem
> > with installing to
> > Firewire?
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any help...
> >
> > -Jason
> >
> > --
> > Jason Christiansen
> > jchristiansen at gmail.com
> >
> > "You can't say civilization isn't advancing;
> > in every war they kill you in a new way."
> > --Will Rogers
> >
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