Problems installing Yellow Dog Linux onto Old World Mac

Jeffrey Rolland jrolland at softhome.net
Mon Aug 21 13:58:25 MDT 2006


Derick,

I tried with the ramdisk from the 4.0.1 1st CD and with the ramdisk  
from the 3.0.1 1st CD ramdisk; both failed.

I will try some other configurations when I get home today and inform  
the list of the results.

Sincerely,
--
Jeffrey Rolland
<jrolland at softhome.net>


On Aug 21, 2006, at 1:51 PM, Derick Centeno wrote:

> Hi Jeffrey:
>
> Just some minor points regarding the instructions posted earlier.
>
> Did you copy ramdisk.image.gz from the 1st YDL Install CD and place  
> that into your Mac OS Classic System Folder?
>
> For installation, make sure you check "Use specified ramdisk" and  
> save.  Then BootX will look for that ramdisk which exists on the CD.
>
> BEFORE that however make sure that the HD onto which you will  
> install YDL has been formatted using Apple's Disk Utility (this  
> same tool in the Classic OS had a different name which I've  
> forgotten).  Anyway it alone needs to be used to format the HD as a  
> Free Space partition.  If you have only one HD and you intend to  
> split that HD so that the Mac OS resides in one portion and YDL on  
> another, be aware that using Apple's utility will destroy the Mac  
> partition.  You should then back up everything on the Mac OS side,  
> boot from the Apple install disk and access that utility from that  
> Apple Install Disk and then format that one drive into two partitions:
>
> * one for the Mac OS
> * the other partition for YDL as Free Space.
>
> You'll then have to reinstall BootX, preferably from a back-up  
> restore procedure, and then proceed.
> The one other way to avoid this is to use that same application  
> available from the Apple install disk to format a completely  
> different hard drive which will be dedicated entirely to YDL.
>
> Returning to BootX, AFTER the above is done, then the formatting  
> tools within Anaconda can be used to create the standard ext3  
> partitions.
>
> Of course, after your YDL installation is successful you uncheck  
> "Use Specified ramdisk" and enter the root partition on the HD  
> where YDL is to boot from.  Click Save, so that BootX refers to  
> that partition and not the ramdisk?
>
> It's these little details that makes Life so interesting...
>
> Good Luck...
>
> =========
>
> Jeffrey Rolland wrote:
>> Hello again, all!
>>
>> I tried a few different things, and wanted to provide more specific
>> feedback in the hopes that it may be useful information to some.
>>
>>
>> Trial 1:
>>
>> For BootX, I was using the kernel vmlinux-2.6.10-1.ydl.1 included on
>> the 4.0.1 CD (not the vmlinux-2.6.8-1.ydl.7 indicated in <http://
>> www.yellowdog-board.com/viewtopic.php?t=249> ("how to install YDL 4.0
>> on old world mac?") and <http://www.yellowdog-board.com/ 
>> viewtopic.php?
>> t=381>). I was using ramdisk size 58192. I was using the "More Kernel
>> arguments" of "video=controlfb:vmode:13,cmode:32". I am not sure what
>> ramdisk I was using.
>>
>> For the CD, I was using the 4.0.1 CD.
>>
>> The exact error message I received was
>>
>> "
>> 'import site' failed; use -v for traceback
>> 	File "/usr/bin/anaconda:, line 193
>> 		if outfields[0] == "connecting" and outfields[-1] == "failed":
>> 		                                  ^
>> SynatxError: invalid syntax
>> "
>>
>> The rest just indicated how the system abended and I could restart my
>> machine.
>>
>> Trial 2:
>>
>> For BootX, I was using the kernel vmlinux-2.6.10-1.ydl.1 included on
>> the 4.0.1 CD. I was using ramdisk size 58192. I was using the "More
>> Kernel arguments" of "video=controlfb:vmode:13,cmode:32". I was using
>> the ramdisk supplied on the 4.0.1 CD.
>>
>> For the CD, I was using the 4.0.1 CD.
>>
>> The exact error message I received was
>>
>> "
>> install exited abnormally
>> "
>>
>> The rest just indicated how the system abended and I could restart my
>> machine.
>>
>> Trial 3:
>>
>> For BootX, I was using the kernel vmlinux-2.6.10-1.ydl.1 included on
>> the 4.0.1 CD. I was using ramdisk size 58192. I was using the "More
>> Kernel arguments" of "video=controlfb:vmode:13,cmode:32". I was using
>> the ramdisk supplied on the 3.0.1 CD.
>>
>> For the CD, I was using the 4.0.1 CD.
>>
>> The exact error message I got was from Anaconda, and it said
>>
>> "
>> You don't have enough RAM to run Yellow Dog. [OK]
>> "
>>
>> (This is obviously silly, since I have 1 GB of RAM, but at least
>> Anaconda ran.)
>>
>> Trial 4:
>>
>> For BootX, I was using the kernel vmlinux-2.6.10-1.ydl.1 included on
>> the 4.0.1 CD. I was using ramdisk size 18192. I was using the "More
>> Kernel arguments" of "video=controlfb:vmode:13,cmode:32". I was using
>> the ramdisk supplied on the 3.0.1 CD.
>>
>> For the CD, I was using the 4.0.1 CD.
>>
>> The exact error message I got was from Anaconda, and it said
>>
>> "
>> You don't have enough RAM to run Yellow Dog. [OK]
>> "
>>
>> (This is again obviously silly.)
>>
>> Hope this is of some use to someone.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> --
>> Jeffrey Rolland
>> <jrolland at softhome.net>
>>
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>
>>> From: Jeffrey Rolland <jrolland at softhome.net>
>>> Date: August 20, 2006 4:08:25 PM CDT
>>> To: yellowdog-newbie at lists.terrasoftsolutions.com
>>> Subject: Problems installing Yellow Dog Linux onto Old World Mac
>>> Reply-To: Discussion List for New Yellow Dog Linux Users  
>>> newbie at lists.terrasoftsolutions.com>
>>>
>>> Hello, all!
>>>
>>> I am attempting to install Yellow Dog Linux (versions 3.0.1 and  
>>> 4.0.1
>>> burned and tried, 2.3 burned but not yet tried, waiting for CDs onto
>>> which to burn 4.1) onto an Old World Mac (Power Macintosh 7500  
>>> with 1
>>> GB RAM and a 50 GB HD (10 GB Mac OS 8.6 and 40 GB unformatted))  
>>> and I
>>> am having trouble.
>>>
>>> The 4.0.1 disk won't load Anaconda (the YDL installer engine) and
>>> crashes.
>>>
>>> The 3.0.1 disk will load Anaconda, but won't read the 3.0.1 disk for
>>> data and keeps waiting for readable CD; the 3.0.1-loaded Anaconda
>>> will read the 4.0.1 disk a little bit, but then crashes.
>>>
>>> Is there anybody on the list who has experience using BootX and
>>> mayhap even experience installing YDL on a machine this old? I am
>>> contacting TerraSoft about purchasing installation support, but the
>>> Mac is so old that I have little hope for this.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for any assistance you can provide.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> --
>>> Jeffrey Rolland
>>> <jrolland at softhome.net>
>>>
>>>
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