Finally, I have a PS3.

[Michael Rockwell]

You make some very valid points.  I will have to check out the power  
station I was not aware of its coming release.  I was not aware what  
so ever of the pci-x limitation on the toshiba design.

  Its fairly interesting that noone has to date released a full cell  
based consumer machine.

On Jun 28, 2008, at 11:23 PM, Derick Centeno <dcenteno at ydl.net> wrote:

> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:14:42 -0500
> Michael Rockwell <arisescaflowne at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Toshiba had a cell based laptop coming soon. But very pricey.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 28, 2008, at 8:46 AM, Derick Centeno <dcenteno at ydl.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:01:52 -0500
>>> "Ron Rogers Jr." <CronoCloud at mchsi.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> After lurking on this list for what seemed like forever, I
>>>> finally have a PS3.
>>>
>>> Congrats!  I haven't made that move yet.  I would prefer the cell in
>>> a laptop
>>> running ydl.  It may never happen.
>
> Hi Mike!
>
> I've read some details on it's design.  Toshiba designed that laptop  
> such that
> the Cell is restricted to doing video processing, the Cell itself is  
> not the
> primary processor.  The Cell off-loads or removes from the Intel  
> processor
> nearly all work having to do with video high def processing.  The very
> nature of the design reveals the weakness of the Intel architecture
> demonstrating how unprepared it is to handle such complex work.   
> Also the
> Toshiba design is such that the Cell is only available through the  
> PCI-x (a
> variant of the more familiar and standard PCI design).  Also the  
> Cell, in
> Toshiba's implementation has 4 cores, not 8 - as exists in the PS3.
>
> Of course, that makes a powerful demonstration of how strong the  
> Cell is that
> it is helping Intel appear functional in modern video processing.   
> However the
> design as it stands presents problems if one was looking forward to  
> running the
> Cell as one runs the PS3 under YDL.  I'm not at all sure that the  
> engineering
> wasn't intentional to prevent lovers of PowerPC/Cell technology from  
> doing what
> they can imagine.
>
> In short, the only real choice power users have is the new YDL  
> PowerStation
> (available shortly here:
> http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/store/index.php?submit=hardware&submitimg[hardware][powerstation]=1 
> )
> indeed well named for all it's flexibilty, or resort to prying open  
> the
> PS3.
>
> I well admit to wanting what corporations refuse to currently  
> provide, an 8+
> core Cell with at least 3TB of solid state storage and .5PB (peta)  
> of RAM in a
> laptop. Having said that, the YDL PowerStation will at least address  
> my lust for
> processing power.  Of course, I'd like to figure out how to stuff in  
> there two
> or three Cells in a parallel hypercuboid system supported by an  
> improbability
> engine powered with an inexhaustible supply of brownian motion --  
> then maybe
> I'll feel better.  :)
>
> Well, there's always hope.
>
> =====
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> think in music. I live my daydreams in music. I see my life in terms  
> of
> music. ... I get most joy in life out of music."
>
> "What Life Means to Einstein: An Interview by George Sylvester
> Viereck," for the October 26, 1929 issue of The Saturday Evening Post.
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